My reply to TheRx's Rick A. and Wilheim regarding Xpanda

[The General]

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I am heading out the door, but I could not leave without responding.

I was pretty pissed off when I read this last night.

Even though we may be missing out on some traffic, we try hard to stay away from flame wars with other forums. However, when somebody tries to disparage a friend and coworker, I have to say something. First of all, I have known Xpanda for some time, and she is one of the most upfront, honest and genuine people I know. I have been in this industry for a long time, and I have never heard anybody say anything negative about her – well until now.

X does not need me to come in and explain the situation for her. But I just happened to be one of the few that were unfortunately caught up in circus that they created when EOG was started. I don’t want to go into all of the details, so I will just say that I was at Don Best at the time and was completely mislead as to what kind of site they were building. I bring this up because X has been accused of being the one who conceived the idea of creating another site and then convinced them to open it. This is simply not true. The people behind that site had already decided to leave theRX and start the site when they contacted X to help them get up and running. In fact I was told that they needed her so they could get incorporated in Canada. She was there for just a short time before deciding that she did not like the direction of the company.

They were not happy to hear that X had issues with the way they were doing things, and I would not consider their split amicable. After her resignation, she attempted to tie up all loose ends and ask that her name be removed from everything and that she be reimbursed for her final expenses. Neither was done, so after all this time she decided to take into to her own hands and close the reaming accounts and collect her reimbursement. The thing that they failed to mention is that the amount she collected was still not enough to cover her final expenses.

I hope this will help put an end to these ridiculous claims being made against Xpanda. Anybody who knows her would agree that she does not deserve to have her reputation questioned.

Thanks
Rick

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The bottom line was that it was apparent to me that EOG was not happy to see Xpanda come here to The Rx. and bad mouthed her pretty badly to me when I hired her (since then she has been hired by upper management from moderator to comunications director and now works for Rick Allec). Xpanda voluntered to stay on as a part time moderator in addition to her other duties and has been a big help in many areas to all of the full time mods.

Xpanda has gotten along fine with the entire staff here at The Rx. and there have been zero confrontations or problems like those mentioned at EOG.

Regarding any funds that were paid to Xpanda by EOG I am certain they were either earned salary or paid expenses. Working on these forums many key personell accrue expenses that are paid monthy or quarterly and as a rule once the total is submitted to management it is the same as an invoice that should be paid immediately. Waiting for months for an expense check is unheard of here at The Rx., waiting two days is unheard of.


This situation is really sad when apparently decent people make publically unsubsantiated allegations against an honest person like Xpanda. I am very dissapointed in that kind of vindictive behaviour especially coming from someone who claims he has changed his life. I have kept my mouth shut about the entire matter of the Rx. changing hands two years ago but believe me some very shady back room dealings that went on at the time, all I can say is that they were some very underhanded activities involved and to coin an old phrase "people in glass houses should not throw stones".

I have complete confidence that Xpanda will vindicate herself from what is an unexplainable breach of eitiquette and downright nasty accusations made with only one objective in mind. I think you can all figure what that objective is, I know all of the the veteran posters can.

Lets see how this plays out, but don't expect to see any of this continued forum 'he said she said" drama on our main forum.

BTW. The thread that started this whole fiasco at EOG (A-Train banned at Rx.) is settled. A-Train is not banned and continues to post here at The Rx.


Thanks, wil..

I am sorry Rick, but with all due respect it is sometimes best to know your facts before you post. Xpanda and Ken were well on their way with EOG before I was invited to the party. My invitation came while Xpanda was drawing up the business plans when I was asked to come along and join EOG. Then it took me literally 2 months to make a decision. Marty's threat of sending Nicaraguans to do bodily harm to Ken was the final deciding factor for me to leave that company.

Xpanda resigned, NOT, because of anything un-desirable about the company, EOG nor Ken or I, with the exception she was nervous over the Poker, PERIOD! (I have the docs to prove if we want to agree to post emails and such).

When I came on board and resigned from TheRx, Xpanda wore me out with her worry that Ken would somehow submit to Marty and decide to drop the EOG idea. She was a nervous wreck about that and about Poker. And, she did have personality conflicts with several other people involved with EOG. As a matter fact, I believe I am the ONLY one whom she never really fought with nor argued with while serving EOG.

I have the copy of the resignation letter Xpanda sent Ken and I as Owners of EOG (CC: her supposed Attorney) stating exactly what she wanted as she resigned from EOG telling that her personal attorney had advised her against staying if we continued to offer Poker. Within 3/4 days of her letter of resignation and confirming with me all was fine via phone discussions except the Poker, she had specific demands for her severance. Scarlett sent her EVERY PENNY she asked for in late Oct 2005.

The summer of 06, she withdrew monies from our Canadian account, which was THEFT IMO, but we have no intention of trying to collect that back. (Until now maybe)!

Anyone with half a brain will ask here, why did Xpanda wait 8 months without contacting or stating SOMEWHERE that EOG owed her more money?

AGAIN.... (I have the docs to prove if we want to agree to post emails and such for proof here).

I also have docs to show that this bank was not used again until Xpanda wrote herself a Cashiers Check for 2000 dollars on June 4, 2006.

For all this time frame, 8 months, after she left and EOG hadn't used the account, all of a sudden she decided that $2000 was hers and that was also the second time she had received a separate payment for misc expenses.

I believe she thought that maybe we forgot about this account when she decided to take advantage of an opportunity.

In fact, in the resignation letter to me she wrote, ... "In return you have my written assurance of confidentiality regarding all matters of business as they occurred within my period of employment with EOG.com."

I believe she is in violation of that agreement as well.

Let me know Marty or Rick.

[lessfoU]

so she sleeps with several RX moderaters, drinks in excess and now steals? did she notified either you or ken that she was going to write herself a cashiers check before during or after? if no, i think you can not only litigate her but turn her into law enforcement for doing this.

[ZZ CREAM]

All I can say is "WOW!"

[ASKMEA?]

Xpanda has gotten along fine with the entire staff here at The Rx.

[mofome]

to coin an old phrase "people in glass houses should not throw stones".




maybe someone should tell the guy that you dont 'coin' old phrases.




sounds like a lot of drama. i believe that wil doesn't know anything about the situations regarding 'xpanada' and eog, but he wants to defend this person. i believe everything pete/ken has said to be truth. i believe those things b/c thats how it is.

[roach23]

Originally Posted by lessfoU

so she sleeps with several RX moderaters, drinks in excess and now steals? did she notified either you or ken that she was going to write herself a cashiers check before during or after? if no, i think you can not only litigate her but turn her into law enforcement for doing this.

there ain't nothing wrong with a woman putting down some booze and getting some dick.


as for the stealing....why did it take the shrink and general nearly a year to say something/be concerned about this missing money? I have about 200 bucks to my name...if 20 is missing i'm gonna be getting to the bottom of where it went and going to collect.

[mofome]

Originally Posted by roach23

as for the stealing....why did it take the shrink and general nearly a year to say something/be concerned about this missing money? I have about 200 bucks to my name...if 20 is missing i'm gonna be getting to the bottom of where it went and going to collect.

roach23 is a good name. deserves more money than that.

[zerocage]

drama drama

[janus]

Originally Posted by mofome

maybe someone should tell the guy that you dont 'coin' old phrases.

nice catch.

[mofome]

Originally Posted by janus

nice catch.

[The General]

There was no notification to Shrink, Scarlett or myself of that $2000 withdrawal nor any reason for Xpanda to take it. She received in good faith all she asked for in October 06'. We made error by not removing her name, but we also trusted she would not do such a thing like this. We learned and take responsibility for it currently. At the time of discovery, We discussed the incident privately but it was not a thing to be made a prominate Press Release to the public in our opinion. Right or Wrong at this time, We Obviously felt it necessary to mention it today in this little bickering match.

[Fordfield]

Originally Posted by mofome

to coin an old phrase "people in glass houses should not throw stones".

The RX claims general stole the user data base information before he left to
and that is worth much more then $2000. Many rxers who never signed up at eog some how got email from them when they first open.

So maybe just call it even and both forums move on with their business

[mofome]

Originally Posted by Fordfield

The RX claims general stole the user data base information before he left to
and that is worth much more then $2000. Many rxers who never signed up at eog some how got email from them when they first open.

So maybe just call it even and both forums move on with their business

i do not think one side b/w eog/therx is completely clean and the other is not. my post here was just making fun of someone who was trying to come off as bright, but he failed you understand what it was he was writing. no big deal. i think 'xpanda' (someone ive never even heard of until today) is probably a scumbag and owes 2K to whomever she took it from. i, however, do not know all the details. I don't, personally, know anyone from therx. i know some of the guys here a bit better and i believe what they've authored here.

[The General]

That is how I prefer it to proceed also, Ford, but we'll handle day to day business as necessary. We certainly do have bigger and better things to be doing.

[Cobbler]

General, what part of Xpanda's explanation of the banning justified Shrink's unhinged reaction? It seemed pretty tame to me, and all of a sudden she is accused of

1) talking Shrink into screwing over the RX and starting up EOG
2) being such a bitch that she had to quit before being fired
3) being a thief.

Totally uncalled for in my opinion.

[TheRightSide]

I just don't get it. How after all this time you decided to let this info out?
I say this is bullshit. This doesn't pass the smell test. As posters we know how Eog and TheRX with forever be connected in some way or fashion. That's just the way it is for now.


I think you need to make a stir to get people to come over tooEOG and generate some traffic. Xpanda and I are not pals either. We have had our problems in the past.

Lets face it for the most part you get all the rejects and degenerate losers from TheRx.

Doc, Gyno, Mad, and many many more. So if you have a legal case against her go through the proper channels and have her arrested. Instead of posting slanderous bullshit on a gambling forum that needs the traffic in the worse way.

TRS

[The General]

Deep sentiments of anger, betrayal and hurt feelings from many directions on both sides. It comes and goes around the forums, but I can honestly say that We do not want the forum wars either. I was a big protester to that for a long time, but it is inevitable when you know and see ALL, (Particularly behind the scenes). Our lives and business gets into the public somewhat like no other. Things like this will happen for years to come and that is with or without any Industry laws nor regulation.

[The General]

Lets face it for the most part you get all the rejects and degenerate losers from TheRx.

Of all our members please list ALL of them not just a couple names.

[Fordfield]

I agree and disagree with some of what right side said both sites have there attention whore posters and both sites have quality posters so eog does not just get rx rejects.

But agree with him on xpanda if she stole money take it to court posting slander on here wont get you the money back.

When Bowlmeone posted about madcapper owing him money on here most mods here said this was not the place for the problem to get resolved I feel the same about xpanda her being guilty or not guilty of stealing money wont be solved here either.

Now im off to the baseball forum to get picks from quality posters that post there.