Kellen Winslow Jr. Fantasy 2007

[Hache Man]

Kellen Winslow - TE - Browns

The Browns don't expect Kellen Winslow (microfracture knee surgery) to do much at June minicamps.
The team says Winslow remains on target to return this season, as he's been at the Browns' facility religiously and his rehab time is on schedule. May. 6 - 9:15 a.m. ET
Source: Akron Beacon-Journal

[Hache Man]

Kellen Winslow - TE - Browns

Browns head coach Romeo Crennel labeled Kellen Winslow (microfracture knee surgery) "doubtful" for June minicamps.
Crennel usually labels injuries as questionable during the season. Winslow was on the field to watch during the Browns' OTA session on Tuesday. May. 22 - 6:57 p.m. ET
Source: Cleveland Browns

[sabian06]

i hope you are not as crazy about him as you were last year...

[Hache Man]

Originally Posted by sabian06

i hope you are not as crazy about him as you were last year...

Here's their numbers from last season


Kellen Winslow:
89 Receptions
875 Yards Receving
3 TDs


Antonio Gates
71 Receptions
924 Yrds Receiving
9 TDs




Not bad considering I stole Winslow late just as I told you I would, and that he missed some time due to injury as well

Of course, that won't be possible this year..........

[sabian06]

Originally Posted by Hache Man

Here's their numbers from last season


Kellen Winslow:
89 Receptions
875 Yards Receving
3 TDs


Antonio Gates
71 Receptions
924 Yrds Receiving
9 TDs




Not bad considering I stole Winslow late just as I told you I would, and that he missed some time due to injury as well

Of course, that won't be possible this year..........

Looking at the stats that way can be quite decieving.........You made it look as if they were #1 and #2 respectively.............more in depth analysis proves different.............

Player Sort First: Last:	Team	G	GS	Target	Rec	Yard	TD	FFPts	FFPts/G
1. Antonio Gates	SD	16	16	120	71	924	9	146.4	9.2
2. Alge Crumpler	ATL	16	16	103	56	780	8	126.0	7.9
3. Tony Gonzalez	KC	15	15	103	73	900	5	120.0	8.0
4. Todd Heap	BAL	16	16	115	73	765	6	112.5	7.0
5. Chris Cooley	WAS	16	16	95	57	734	6	109.4	6.8
6. Kellen Winslow	CLE	16	16	119	89	875	3	105.5	6.6

sure his target ratio is high and he did get alot of touches, but he did not tear the doors off by no means............And do not worry Hachey baby I am sure you can get him late again because by these numbers the 6th best TE should be there in the late rounds!

[Hache Man]

Originally Posted by sabian06

Looking at the stats that way can be quite decieving.........You made it look as if they were #1 and #2 respectively.............more in depth analysis proves different.............


sure his target ratio is high and he did get alot of touches, but he did not tear the doors off by no means............And do not worry Hachey baby I am sure you can get him late again because by these numbers the 6th best TE should be there in the late rounds!

Consider the fact most all mock drafts had TE's ranked as below (approximately), and getting Jr. in the late rounds was truly indeed a steal. (Once again, just as I preached to you far before & leading up to the draft last year. Cmon, don't deny it now........lol)

1	Antonio Gates
2	Tony Gonzales
3	Jeremy Shockey
4	Todd Heap
5	Alge Crumpler
6	Ben Watson
7	Chris Cooley
8	Jason Witten
9	Heath Miller
10	Randy McMichael
11	Dallas Clark
12	Ben Troupe
13	LJ Smith
14	Kellen Winslow

[MathProf]

Stats show KW to be second most productive TE in points per reception league; are there still non-ppr leagues around somewhere (maybe in
Loch Ness where the Pleisosaur Nellie is commish?)

Thanks for info - I'll be after him this year

MathProf

[Hache Man]

True MathProf, and Cleveland's offense will continue to look for Winslow as primary target.

I also agree about points per reception leagues.
I can't imagine even playing in a league which doesn't count receptions as points, it only makes perfect sense.......

[sabian06]

Originally Posted by Hache Man

True MathProf, and Cleveland's offense will continue to look for Winslow as primary target.

I also agree about points per reception leagues.
I can't imagine even playing in a league which doesn't count receptions as points, it only makes perfect sense.......

coming from the same guy that plays individual defensive players instead of team unit defense................most national magazines do not even break down the defenses by ind. player because a small % does this

[Hache Man]

Originally Posted by sabian06

coming from the same guy that plays individual defensive players instead of team unit defense................most national magazines do not even break down the defenses by ind. player because a small % does this

haha, actually, individual defensive players are the wave of the future as well.

I'm sure Dirty & a couple others will chime in and point that out as well.

Go to a search engine & type in fantasy football idp

[sabian06]

yeah soon the new wave will be coaching decisions.......you will draft a coach and when he goes for it on 4th or throws in a flag and wins a replay you will get a point.......

[Hache Man]

Kellen Winslow - TE - Browns

Browns TE Kellen Winslow has been cleared to practice.
While Winslow played 16 games last season, it was on an injured knee. If he could stay healthy for an entire season, he has the talent to be a solid fantasy TE. Watch closely this month to see if he's fully over his microfracture surgery. He's a big gamble on draft day. Jul. 27 - 4:16 p.m. ET
Source: ClevelandBrowns.com

[Hache Man]

	Winslow has partially dislocated shoulder
	Kellen Winslow - TE - CLE - Sep. 26 - 3:38 p.m. ET
	Updating a previous report, Kellen Winslow has been diagnosed with a partially dislocated left shoulder. The medical term is a "mild subluxation" of the shoulder. The Browns at first called Winslow's shoulder bruised, then "sprained." Winslow, who has been receiving electric stimulation for the injury, is uncertain to play against Baltimore. He says he will, but missed all of practice Wednesday. Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

[Hache Man]

Kellen Winslow - TE - Browns

Ravens LB Bart Scott says he fully anticipates seeing Kellen Winslow (partially dislocated shoulder) on the field Sunday.
"That’s gaming, man, I don’t want to hear that," Scott said of Winslow's likely questionable status and failure to practice Wednesday and Thursday. "He’ll be up for it. Everybody’s doubtful every week in the NFL." Sep. 28 - 10:23 a.m. ET
Source: Carroll County Times

Matt Wilhelm - LB - Chargers

[Hache Man]

	Winslow returns to limited workout
	Kellen Winslow - TE - CLE - Sep. 28 - 3:11 p.m. ET
	Kellen Winslow (questionable, shoulder) returned to a limited practice Friday. "I've been through worse last year with what I had to go through with the knee," Winslow said. "We'll see how it goes, see how it feels." He is expected to start against Baltimore, but is officially considered a game-time decision. Make certain that Winslow is active on Sunday morning. Source: Cleveland Browns

[Hache Man]

Kellen Winslow - TE - Browns

Kellen Winslow practiced Wednesday, but coach Romeo Crennel said his shoulder injury "is something he's going to have to deal with all year."

This is no surprise, as Winslow partially dislocated the shoulder in Week 3. He was characterized as being "limited," but is a good bet to play Sunday. Oct. 3

Source: clevelandbrowns.com

[Hache Man]

Kellen Winslow - TE - Browns

Kellen Winslow was again a limited participant at practice Thursday.
Winslow's subluxed shoulder is expected to trouble him a bit all season, but he's in little jeopardy of missing a bout with the Patriots in Week 5. Oct. 4 - 4:06 p.m. ET

[Hache Man]

Kellen Winslow - TE - Browns

Kellen Winslow (shoulder) is listed as probable for Week 6.

Winslow should have a big day LB Joey Porter this weekend. Oct. 12 - 4:06 p.m. ET

Source: clevelandbrowns.com

[Hache Man]

Kellen Winslow - TE - Browns

Kellen Winslow (knee) was limited in Browns practice Wednesday.
Winslow hasn't been limited in a practice since Week 6, and that was due to a shoulder injury that wound up costing him no time. He's been playing with knee pain, so the Browns are likely scaling back his practice reps this week. Dec. 26 - 5:40 p.m. ET www.clevelandbrowns.ws

[Hache Man]

Kellen Winslow - TE - Browns

Kellen Winslow wouldn't say Friday whether he'll need more surgery on his knee after the season.
Winslow, who had microfracture surgery last offseason, also has a dislocated shoulder he's played with since early in the year. He was added to the injury this week with knee pain, but is listed as probable and will start in Week 17. Dec. 29 - 9:58 a.m. ET
Source: www.clevelandbrowns.ws