LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

The Devil

EOG Master
NO FULL BLOWN ANSWERS JUST A SIMPLE YES OR NO.......I SAY YOU GUYS WON'T ANSWER...

1) DO YOU BELIEVE THE 9-11 TERRORISTS ARE STILL ALIVE LIKE DOC MERCER POSTED....YES OR NO.....

2) DO YOU BELIEVE THE TOWERS 1,2 # 7 WERE TAKEN DOWN WITH ANYTHING OTHER THEN THE FIRES CAUSED BY THE PLANE CRASHES LIKE DOC MERCER PROCLAIMS.....YES OR NO????

3) DO YOU BELIEVE TODD BEAMER EXISTED......YES OR NO????

4) DO YOU BELIEVE DOC MERCER HEARD THE TAPES HE CLAIMS HE HEARD???? YES OR NO???

I DOUBT IF YUNGBUCK, ZZ CREAM, YNOT OR STUCCO WILL ALL ANSWER THIS AS THEY DON'T (a) WANT TO LOOK STUPID OR (b) DON'T WANT TO MAKE DOC LOOK STUPID......
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

1)

At Least 7 of the 9/11
Hijackers are Still Alive
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The muscle hijackers 'picked by bin Ladin':​
Satam al Suqami, Wail and Waleed al Shehri (two brothers) Both Alive, Abdul Aziz al Omari Alive, Fayez Banihammad (from the UAE), Ahmed al Ghamdi, Hamza al Ghamdi, Mohand al Shehri Alive, Saeed al Ghamdi Alive, Ahmad al Haznawi, Ahmed al Nami Alive, Majed Moqed, and Salem al Hazmi Alive (the brother of Nawaf al Hazmi).
How can the 9/11 Commission be taken seriously when they refer to 9/11 'hijackers' who are still alive?
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<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="7" width="600"> <tbody><tr> <td>A lingering question is why the passenger loads on the four planes hijacked in U.S. skies are being described by industry officials as "very, very low.'' ... Through July, airlines in the United States reported flights on average were 71 percent capacity this year. [CNN 9/20/2001] The total passenger seating capacity of the four 9/11 airliners was 762 people. There are 229 passengers and crew members on the four death lists issued by CNN (although this figure varies). The total number of passengers on the four airliners was only 26 percent of capacity.
Note: Pre-9/11 insider trading on UA and AA options leads to the CIA's highest ranks.
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American Airlines Flight 11
Boeing 767-223ER. Fuel capacity 24,000 gallons

Seating Capacity 181
81 passengers (including hijackers)
9 flight attendants, 2 pilots

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Alleged hijackers:
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Satam M.A. Al Suqami
Waleed M. Alshehri - Alive
Wail M. Alshehri - Alive

Mohamed Atta - Alive?
Abdulaziz Alomari - Alive
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Scheduled flight: Boston - Los Angeles
Flight departed 07:59 a.m.
Crashed into WTC 1 08:46 a.m.

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United Airlines Flight 175
Boeing 767-222. Fuel capacity 24,000 gallons

Seating Capacity 181
56 passengers (including hijackers)
7 flight attendants, 2 pilots

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Alleged hijackers:
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Marwan Al-Shehhi
Fayez Rashid Ahmed Hassan Al Qadi Banihammad
Ahmed Alghamdi
Hamza Alghamdi
Mohand Alshehri - Alive
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Scheduled flight: Boston - Los Angeles
Flight departed 08:14 a.m.
Crashed into WTC2 09:03 a.m.

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American Airlines Flight 77
Boeing 757-223. Fuel capacity 11,000 gallons

Seating Capacity 200
58 passengers (including hijackers)
4 flight attendants, 2 pilots

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Alleged hijackers:
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[CNN 9/14/2001]
</td><td valign="top"> Final named hijackers </td></tr><tr> <td>Cammid Al-Madar
Majar Mokhed
Salem Al Hazni
Nawar Al Hazni
Mosear Caned</td><td>Khalid Almihdhar - Alive?
Majed Moqed
Salem Alhazmi - Alive
Nawaf Alhazmi
Hani Hanjour
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Scheduled flight: Washington to Los Angeles
Flight departed 08:20 a.m.
Crashed into the Pentagon 09:38 a.m.

Dulles Airport is ~20 miles from the Pentagon. Why would terrorists intent on hitting the Pentagon chance a round trip of hundreds of miles?
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United Airlines Flight 93
Boeing 757-222. Fuel capacity 11,000 gallons

Seating Capacity 200
38 passengers (including hijackers)
5 flight attendants, 2 pilots

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Alleged hijackers:
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Saeed Alghamdi - Alive
Ahmed Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi
Ahmed Alnami - Alive
Ziad Samir Jarrah​
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Scheduled flight: Newark to San Francisco
Flight departed 8:42 a.m. (delayed 41 mins)
Crashed in Pennsylvania 10:06 a.m.

Flight 93 was delayed, so why didn't the hijackers head straight for Washington to make up time?
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<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" bgcolor="#d8d8d8" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="7" width="600"> <tbody><tr> <td>The story that the hijackers used box-cutters and plastic knives in the attack on the World Trade Center is a functional fictoid. In this case, the function was diversion. This fictoid serves to divert public attentions from the responsibility, and legal liability, of the government and airlines to prevent major weapons- such as guns, bombs, chemical sprays and hunting knives from being carried aboard airplanes. If such illegal devices had been smuggled aboard the planes, the liability could amount to billions of dollars. If, on the other hand, it could be disseminated that the hijackers had only used plastic knives, such as those provided by the airlines for meals, or box cutters, which were allowed on planes, neither the airlines, the screeners at the airport, or the FAA, which regulates the safety of airports, could be held legally responsible. [Full Details] </td></tr></tbody></table>​
The BBC reported a transcript of a phone call made by Flight Attendant Madeline Amy Sweeney to Boston air traffic controls in which she gave the seat numbers occupied by the hijackers, and these seat numbers did not correspond with those of the men claimed by the FBI to be responsible for the hijacking:
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" bgcolor="#d8d8d8" border="1" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="7" width="600"> <tbody><tr> <td>The FBI has named five hijackers on board Flight 11, whereas Ms Sweeney spotted only four. Also, the seat numbers she gave were different from those registered in the hijackers' names. [BBC News]</td></tr></tbody></table>​
CNN reported that the men who hijacked the aircraft used phony IDs containing the names of real people living in Arab nations in the middle east.
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" bgcolor="#d8d8d8" border="1" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="7" width="600"> <tbody><tr> <td>The Saudi Airlines pilot, Saeed Al-Ghamdi, 25, and Abdulaziz Al-Omari, an engineer from Riyadh, are furious that the hijackers' "personal details" - including name, place, date of birth and occupation - matched their own. [Telegraph] </td></tr></tbody></table>​
The FBI says there is no evidence to link the above men to the 9/11 hijackings.
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" bgcolor="#d8d8d8" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="7" width="600"> <tbody><tr> <td>In September 2002, [FBI Director Robert Mueller] told CNN twice that there is "no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers." [Insight]</td></tr></tbody></table>​
So, one fact is apparent. If those who hijacked the 9/11 airplanes were using stolen identities, then we don't know who they were or who they worked for. We can't. It's impossible.
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" bgcolor="#d8d8d8" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="7" width="600"> <tbody><tr> <td>A Saudi embassy official said it was difficult to know for certain whether the hijackers used bogus names. "You cannot throw a stone in Saudi Arabia without hitting an Al Ghamdi," he said, referring to the alleged last name of three of the hijackers. [Chicago Tribune]</td></tr></tbody></table>​
Now, people who are intending to commit suicide normally don't worry about whether anyone knows their real name, and it is here that some other odd aspects of this case take on a new meaning.
We are told that the group that planned and carried out the 9/11 attacks were highly trained (possibly by the CIA) experts, with knowledge of how to steal identities and forge fake IDs, yet at the same time we are being told that these men were incapable of correctly filling in US visa applications.
We are also being told that they spent the night before the attack getting drunk in bars, making noise, screaming insults at the "infidels", and doing everything they could to attract attention to themselves. They used the credit cards issued in their stolen names, allowed their driver's licenses with the stolen names to be photocopied, and used public library computers to send emails back and forth using their stolen names signed to unencrypted messages about their plans to steal aircraft and crash them into buildings, then decorated their apartments with absurdly obvious props such as a crop dusting manual to the point where the whole affair reads like a low budget "B" detective movie from the 1930s.
In short, these men did everything they could to make sure everyone knew who they were, or more to the point, who they were pretending to be.
Because the IDs used by the hijackers were phony, we cannot know who they really were or who they really worked for. But what is apparent is that those who planned the hijackings and the 9/11 attacks went out of their way to leave plenty of clues pointing to citizens of middle eastern Arab nations.
<table style="border-collapse: collapse;" bgcolor="#d8d8d8" border="1" bordercolor="#000000" cellpadding="7" width="600"> <tbody><tr> <td>Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues that were uncovered about the terrorists' identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, "Whatever trail was left was left deliberately?for the F.B.I. to chase." [The New Yorker]</td></tr></tbody></table>​
We don't know who planned 9/11 attacks.
But we do know who they wanted us to think they were.
We do know who they intended America to blame for the attacks.
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<hr color="#c0c0c0" width="630"> A 9-11 rescue worker recently came forward to say he was told by FBI agents to ?keep my mouth shut? about one of the ?black boxes? a fellow firefighter helped locate at ground zero, contradicting the official story that none of the flight and cockpit data recorders were ever recovered in the wreckage of the World Trade Center (WTC) towers. Those close to the 9-11 investigation said the recovery of the ?black boxes? is important because they may hold vital clues about what really happened on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001. The cockpit voice recorder uses a pair of microphones to capture all cockpit sounds for the last 30 minutes of a doomed flight. The flight data recorder is also significant since it records altitude, heading and airspeed. [AFP]
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

Lets answer # 3 since 2 can go forever:

Discovery Channel documentary, 'The Flight That Fought Back',
> produced by London-based Brook Lapping Productions,is based on research
> evidence including the 9/11 Commission Report and voice recordings left
> by passengers and crew members of United flight 93, including the famous
> "Let's roll" call to action, from passenger Todd Beamer.
> There is only one problem: Todd Beamer does not exist.
>
> Do a Social Security Death Index search for Todd
> Beamer at :
>
> http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/
>
> You get one record with the date of birth as SEPTEMBER
> ELEVENTH, 1968 and date of death as 6/10/97.
>
> Of the passengers and crew of Flight 11, 77, 175 & 93,
> only 22%, 22%, 28%, 13% respectively are in the Social
> Security Death Index.
>
> Todd Beamer's marriage:
> I prepared for our wedding on May 14,1994. I had
> always wanted to move back East,
> ... Our wedding took place at the First Baptist Church
> in Peekskill, New York
> pg 97 "Let's Roll" by Lisa Beamer
>
> Do a marriage license search at:
>
> http://www.genlookups.com/ny_marriages/
>
> There are no marriage license records for Todd Beamer
> and Lisa Brosious!
>
> Look at the date this website was setup- 9/12/01!!! and he is not in the
> SSDI nor has any "family" member applied to the September 11th
> Compensation Fund of 2001
>
> Domain ID:D77223487-LROR
>
> Domain Name:MARKBINGHAM.ORG
>
> Created On:12-Sep-2001 17:06:44 UTC
>
> http://markbingham.org/
>
> http://www.whois.net/
>
> http://911digitalarchive.org/objects/3.pdf
>
> http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/
>
>
> Of the 266 people that we were told died on these
> jets, only 11 relatives applied for compensation!
>
> Flight 11: of the 92 people who are listed as dying on
> this flight, only 20 are listed in the SSDI (22%)
>
> Of these 20 people, only three are on the 9-11
> Compensation Fund list:
>
> Judy Larocque
> Laurie Neira
> Candace Lee Williams
>
> =======================================
>
> Flight 77: of the 64 people who are listed as dying on
> this flight, only 14 are listed in the SSDI (22%)
>
> Of these 64 people, only five on the 9-11 Compensation
> Fund list:
>
> William Caswell
> Eddie Dillard
> Ian Gray
> John Sammartino
> Leonard Taylor
>
> =======================================
>
> Flight 175: of the 65 people who are listed as dying
> on this flight, only 18 are listed in the SSDI (28%)
>
> Of these 65 people, only three are on the 9-11
> Compensation Fund list:
>
> Michael C. Tarrou
> Gloria Debarrera
> Timothy Ward
>
> =======================================
>
> Flight 93: of the 45 people who are listed as dying on
> this flight, only 6 are listed in the SSDI (13%)
>
> Of these 45 people, none are on the 9-11 Compensation
> Fund list:
>
> No one
>
> =======================================
> Maybe this is why:
>
> Plane Lands In Cleveland; Bomb Feared Aboard
> Reported by: 9News Staff
> Web produced by: Liz Foreman
> 9/11/01 11:43:57 AM
>
> "A Boeing 767 out of Boston made an emergency landing
> Tuesday at Cleveland Hopkins International Airport due
> to concerns that it may have a bomb aboard, said Mayor
> Michael R. White.
>
> White said the plane had been moved to a secure area
> of the airport, and was evacuated.
>
> United identified the plane as Flight 93. The airline
> [didn't] say how many people were aboard the flight.
> United said it was also "deeply concerned" about
> another flight, Flight 175, a Boeing 767, which was
> bound from Boston to Los Angeles.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

#4 ... lets see .. THE GOVT DID CLAIM CALLS FROM CELLS PHONE WERE
MADE FROM HIJACKED PLANES ON 9-11

REALLY??

More Holes in the Official Story:

The 9/11 Cell Phone Calls

by Michel Chossudovsky

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<dt style="line-height: 100%; text-indent: 0pt; padding-left: 45px; padding-right: 35px;">www.globalresearch.ca 10 August 2004</dt>​
</dl> The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO408B.html

<hr> "We Have Some Planes"
The 9/11 Commission's Report provides an almost visual description of the Arab hijackers. It depicts in minute detail events occurring inside the cabin of the four hijacked planes.
In the absence of surviving passengers, this "corroborating evidence", was based on passengers' cell and air phone conversations with their loved ones. According to the Report, the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) was only recovered in the case of one of the flights (UAL 93).
Focusing on the personal drama of the passengers, the Commission has built much of its narrative around the phone conversations. The Arabs are portrayed with their knives and box cutters, scheming in the name of Allah, to bring down the planes and turn them "into large guided missiles" (Report, Chapter 1, http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch1.pdf ).
The Technology of Wireless Transmission
The Report conveys the impression that cell phone ground-to-air communication from high altitude was of reasonably good quality, and that there was no major impediment or obstruction in wireless transmission.
Some of the conversations were with onboard air phones, which contrary to the cell phones provide for good quality transmission. The report does not draw a clear demarcation between the two types of calls.
More significantly, what this carefully drafted script fails to mention is that, given the prevailing technology in September 2001, it was extremely difficult, if not impossible, to place a wireless cell call from an aircraft traveling at high speed above 8000 feet:
"Wireless communications networks weren't designed for ground-to-air communication. Cellular experts privately admit that they're surprised the calls were able to be placed from the hijacked planes, and that they lasted as long as they did. They speculate that the only reason that the calls went through in the first place is that the aircraft were flying so close to the ground ( http://www.elliott.org/technology/2001/cellpermit.htm
Expert opinion within the wireless telecom industry casts serious doubt on "the findings" of the 9/11 Commission. According to Alexa Graf, a spokesman of AT&T, commenting in the immediate wake of the 9/11 attacks:
"it was almost a fluke that the [9/11] calls reached their destinations... From high altitudes, the call quality is not very good, and most callers will experience drops. Although calls are not reliable, callers can pick up and hold calls for a little while below a certain altitude"( http://wirelessreview.com/ar/wireless_final_contact/ )
New Wireless Technology
While serious doubts regarding the cell calls were expressed in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, a new landmark in the wireless telecom industry has further contributed to upsetting the Commission's credibility. Within days of the release of the 9/11 Commission Report in July, American Airlines and Qualcomm, proudly announced the development of a new wireless technology --which will at some future date allow airline passengers using their cell phones to contact family and friends from a commercial aircraft (no doubt at a special rate aerial roaming charge) (see http://www.qualcomm.com/press/releases/2004/040715_aa_testflight.html )
"Travelers could be talking on their personal cellphones as early as 2006. Earlier this month [July 2004], American Airlines conducted a trial run on a modified aircraft that permitted cell phone calls." (WP, July 27, 2004)
Aviation Week (07/20/04) described this new technology in an authoritative report published in July 2004:
"Qualcomm and American Airlines are exploring [July 2004] ways for passengers to use commercial cell phones inflight for air-to-ground communication. In a recent 2-hr. proof-of-concept flight, representatives from government and the media used commercial Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) third-generation cell phones to place and receive calls and text messages from friends on the ground.
For the test flight from Dallas-Fort Worth, the aircraft was equipped with an antenna in the front and rear of the cabin to transmit cell phone calls to a small in-cabin CDMA cellular base station. This "pico cell" transmitted cell phone calls from the aircraft via a Globalstar satellite to the worldwide terrestrial phone network"
Needless to say, neither the service, nor the "third generation" hardware, nor the "Picco cell" CDMA base station inside the cabin (which so to speak mimics a cell phone communication tower inside the plane) were available on the morning of September 11, 2001.
The 911 Commission points to the clarity and detail of these telephone conversations.
In substance, the Aviation Week report creates yet another embarrassing hitch in the official story.
The untimely July American Airlines / Qualcomm announcement acted as a cold shower. Barely acknowledged in press reports, it confirms that the Bush administration had embroidered the cell phone narrative (similar to what they did with WMDs) and that the 9/11 Commission's account was either flawed or grossly exaggerated.
Altitude and Cellphone Transmission
According to industry experts, the crucial link in wireless cell phone transmission from an aircraft is altitude. Beyond a certain altitude which is usually reached within a few minutes after takeoff, cell phone calls are no longer possible.
In other words, given the wireless technology available on September 11 2001, these cell calls could not have been placed from high altitude.
The only way passengers could have got through to family and friends using their cell phones, is if the planes were flying below 8000 feet. Yet even at low altitude, below 8000 feet, cell phone communication is of poor quality.
The crucial question: at what altitude were the planes traveling, when the calls were placed?
While the information provided by the Commission is scanty, the Report's timeline does not suggest that the planes were consistently traveling at low altitude. In fact the Report confirms that a fair number of the cell phone calls were placed while the plane was traveling at altitudes above 8000 feet, which is considered as the cutoff altitude for cell phone transmission.
Let us review the timeline of these calls in relation to the information provided by the Report on flight paths and altitude.
United Airlines Flight 175
United Airlines Flight 175 departed for Los Angeles at 8:00:
"It pushed back from its gate at 7:58 and departed Logan Airport at 8:14."
The Report confirms that by 8:33, "it had reached its assigned cruising altitude of 31,000 feet." According to the Report, it maintained this cruising altitude until 8.51, when it "deviated from its assigned altitude":
"The first operational evidence that something was abnormal on United 175 came at 8:47, when the aircraft changed beacon codes twice within a minute. At 8:51, the flight deviated from its assigned altitude, and a minute later New York air traffic controllers began repeatedly and unsuccessfully trying to contact it."
And one minute later at 8.52, Lee Hanson receives a call from his son Peter.
[Flight UAL 175] "At 8:52, in Easton, Connecticut, a man named Lee Hanson received a phone call from his son Peter, a passenger on United 175. His son told him: ?I think they?ve taken over the cockpit?An attendant has been stabbed? and someone else up front may have been killed. The plane is making strange moves. Call United Airlines?Tell them it?s Flight 175, Boston to LA.
Press reports confirm that Peter Hanson was using his cell (i.e it was not an air phone). Unless the plane had suddenly nose-dived, the plane was still at high altitude at 8.52. (Moreover, Hanson's call could have been initiated at least a minute prior to his father Lee Hanson picking up the phone.)
Another call was received at 8.52 (one minute after it deviated from its assigned altitude of 31,000 feet). The Report does not say whether this is an air phone or a cell phone call:
Also at 8:52, a male flight attendant called a United office in San Francisco, reaching Marc Policastro. The flight attendant reported that the flight had been hijacked, both pilots had been killed, a flight attendant had been stabbed, and the hijackers were probably flying the plane. The call lasted about two minutes, after which Policastro and a colleague tried unsuccessfully to contact the flight.
It is not clear whether this was a call to Policastro's cell phone or to the UAL switchboard.
At 8:58, UAL 175 "took a heading toward New York City.":
"At 8:59, Flight 175 passenger Brian David Sweeney tried to call his wife, Julie. He left a message on their home answering machine that the plane had been hijacked. He then called his mother, Louise Sweeney, told her the flight had been hijacked, and added that the passengers were thinking about storming the cockpit to take control of the plane away from the hijackers.
At 9:00, Lee Hanson received a second call from his son Peter:
It?s getting bad, Dad?A stewardess was stabbed?They seem to have knives and Mace?They said they have a bomb?It?s getting very bad on the plane?Passengers are throwing up and getting sick?The plane is making jerky movements?I don?t think the pilot is flying the plane?I think we are going down?I think they intend to go to Chicago or someplace and fly into a building?Don?t worry, Dad? If it happens, it?ll be very fast?My God, my God.
The call ended abruptly. Lee Hanson had heard a woman scream just before it cut off. He turned on a television, and in her home so did Louise Sweeney. Both then saw the second aircraft hit the World Trade Center.50 At 9:03:11, United Airlines Flight 175 struck the South Tower of the World Trade Center. All on board, along with an unknown number of people in the tower, were killed instantly."
American Airlines Flight 77
American Airlines Flight 77 was scheduled to depart from Washington Dulles for Los Angeles at 8:10... "At 8:46, the flight reached its assigned cruising altitude of 35,000 feet."
At 8:51, American 77 transmitted its last routine radio communication. The hijacking began between 8:51 and 8:54. As on American 11 and United 175, the hijackers used knives (reported by one passenger) and moved all the passengers (and possibly crew) to the rear of the aircraft (reported by one flight attendant and one passenger). Unlike the earlier flights, the Flight 77 hijackers were reported by a passenger to have box cutters. Finally, a passenger reported that an announcement had been made by the ?pilot? that the plane had been hijacked....
On flight AA 77, which allegedly crashed into the Pentagon, the transponder was turned off at 8:56am; the recorded altitude at the time the transponder was turned off is not mentioned. According to the Commission's Report, cell calls started 16 minutes later, at 9:12am, twenty minutes before it (allegedly) crashed into the Pentagon at 9.32am:
" [at 9.12] Renee May called her mother, Nancy May, in Las Vegas. She said her flight was being hijacked by six individuals who had moved them to the rear of the plane."
According to the Report, when the autopilot was disengaged at 9:29am, the aircraft was at 7,000 feet and some 38 miles west of the Pentagon. This happened two minutes before the crash.
Most of the calls on Flight 77 were placed between 9.12am and 9.26am, prior to the disengagement of automatic piloting at 9.29am. The plane could indeed have been traveling at either a higher or a lower altitude to that reached at 9.29. Yet, at the same time there is no indication in the Report that the plane had been traveling below the 7000 feet level, which it reached at 9.29am.
At some point between 9:16 and 9:26, Barbara Olson called her husband, Ted Olson, the solicitor general of the United States. [using an airphone]
(Report p 7, see http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch1.pdf )
United Airlines Flight 93
UAL flight 93 was the only one of the four planes that, according to the official story, did not crash into a building. Flight 93 passengers, apparently: "alerted through phone calls, attempted to subdue the hijackers. and the hijackers crashed the plane [in Pennsylvania] to prevent the passengers gaining control." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_flight_93 ). Another version of events, was that UAL 93 was shot down.
According to the Commission's account:
"the first 46 minutes of Flight 93?s cross-country trip proceeded routinely. Radio communications from the plane were normal. Heading, speed, and altitude ran according to plan. At 9:24, Ballinger?s warning to United 93 was received in the cockpit. Within two minutes, at 9:26, the pilot, Jason Dahl, responded with a note of puzzlement: ?Ed, confirm latest mssg plz?Jason.?70 The hijackers attacked at 9:28. While traveling 35,000 feet above eastern Ohio, United 93 suddenly dropped 700 feet. Eleven seconds into the descent, the FAA?s air traffic control center in Cleveland received the first of two radio transmissions from the aircraft...."
At least ten cell calls are reported to have taken place on flight 93.
The Report confirms that passengers started placing calls with cell and air phones shortly after 9.32am, four minutes after the Report's confirmation of the plane's attitude of 35,000 feet. In other words, the calls started some 9 minutes before the Cleveland Center lost UAL 93?s transponder signal (9.41) and approximately 30 minutes before the crash in Pennsylvania (10.03)
"At 9:41, Cleveland Center lost United 93?s transponder signal. The controller located it on primary radar, matched its position with visual sightings from other aircraft, and tracked the flight as it turned east, then south.164 "
This suggests that the altitude was known to air traffic control up until the time when the transponder signal was lost by the Cleveland Center. (Radar and visual sightings provided information on its flight path from 9.41 to 10.03.)
Moreover, there was no indication from the Report that the aircraft had swooped down to a lower level of altitude, apart from the 700 feet drop recorded at 9.28. from a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet:
"At 9:32, a hijacker, probably Jarrah, made or attempted to make the following announcement to the passengers of Flight 93:?Ladies and Gentlemen: Here the captain, please sit down keep remaining sitting.
We have a bomb on board. So, sit.? The flight data recorder (also recovered) indicates that Jarrah then instructed the plane?s autopilot to turn the aircraft around and head east. The cockpit voice recorder data indicate that a woman, most likely a flight attendant, was being held captive in the cockpit. She struggled with one of the hijackers who killed or otherwise silenced her.
Shortly thereafter, the passengers and flight crew began a series of calls from GTE airphones and cellular phones. These calls between family, friends, and colleagues took place until the end of the flight and provided those on the ground with firsthand accounts. They enabled the passengers to gain critical information, including the news that two aircraft had slammed into the World Trade Center.77...At least two callers from the flight reported that the hijackers knew that passengers were making calls but did not seem to care.
The hijackers were wearing red bandanas, and they forced the passengers to the back of the aircraft.80 Callers reported that a passenger had been stabbed and that two people were lying on the floor of the cabin, injured or dead?possibly the captain and first officer. One caller reported that a flight attendant had been killed.81 One of the callers from United 93 also reported that he thought the hijackers might possess a gun. But none of the other callers reported the presence of a firearm. One recipient of a call from the aircraft recounted specifically asking her caller whether the hijackers had guns.
The passenger replied that he did not see one. No evidence of firearms or of their identifiable remains was found at the aircraft?s crash site, and the cockpit voice recorder gives no indication of a gun being fired or mentioned at any time.
We believe that if the hijackers had possessed a gun, they would have used it in the flight?s last minutes as the passengers fought back.82 Passengers on three flights reported the hijackers? claim of having a bomb. The FBI told us they found no trace of explosives at the crash sites. One of the passengers who mentioned a bomb expressed his belief that it was not real. Lacking any evidence that the hijackers attempted to smuggle such illegal items past the security screening checkpoints, we believe the bombs were probably fake. During at least five of the passengers? phone calls, information was shared about the attacks that had occurred earlier that morning at the World Trade Center. Five calls described the intent of passengers and surviving crew members to revolt against the hijackers. According to one call, they voted on whether to rush the terrorists in an attempt to retake the plane. They decided, and acted. At 9:57, the passenger assault began. Several passengers had terminated phone calls with loved ones in order to join the revolt. One of the callers ended her message as follows:
?Everyone?s running up to first class. I?ve got to go. Bye.? The cockpit voice recorder captured the sounds of the passenger assault muffled by the intervening cockpit door. Some family members who listened to the recording report that they can hear the voice of a loved one among the din.
We cannot identify whose voices can be heard. But the assault was sustained. In response, Jarrah immediately began to roll the airplane to the left and right, attempting to knock the passengers off balance. At 9:58:57, Jarrah told another hijacker in the cockpit to block the door. Jarrah continued to roll the airplane sharply left and right, but the assault continued. At 9:59, Jarrah changed tactics and pitched the nose of the airplane up and down to disrupt the assault. The recorder captured the sounds of loud thumps, crashes, shouts, and breaking glasses and plates.
At 10:00:03, Jarrah stabilized the airplane. Five seconds later, Jarrah asked, ?Is that it? Shall we finish it off?? A hijacker responded, ?No. Not yet. When they all come, we finish it off.? The sounds of fighting continued outside the cockpit. Again, Jarrah pitched the nose of the aircraft up and down.At 10:00:26, a passenger in the background said, ?In the cockpit. If we don?t we?ll die!? Sixteen seconds later, a passenger yelled,?Roll it!? Jarrah stopped the violent maneuvers at about 10:01:00 and said, ?Allah is the greatest! Allah is the greatest!? He then asked another hijacker in the cockpit,? Is that it? I mean, shall we put it down?? to which the other replied, ?Yes, put it in it, and pull it down.? The passengers continued their assault and at 10:02:23, a hijacker said, ?Pull it down! Pull it down!? The hijackers remained at the controls but must have judged that the passengers were only seconds from overcoming them. The airplane headed down; the control wheel was turned hard to the right.
The airplane rolled onto its back, and one of the hijackers began shouting ?Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest. ?With the sounds of the passenger counterattack continuing, the aircraft plowed into an empty field in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, at 580 miles per hour, about 20 minutes? flying time from Washington D.C. Jarrah?s objective was to crash his airliner into symbols of the American Republic, the Capitol or the White House. He was defeated by the alerted, unarmed passengers of United"
The Mysterious Call of Edward Felt from UAL 93
Earlier coverage of the fate of UAL 93 was based in part on a reported cell call from a passenger named Edward Felt, who managed to reach an emergency official in Pennsylvania. How he got the emergency supervisor's number and managed to reach him remains unclear.
The call was apparently received at 9.58 am, eight minutes before the reported time of the crash at 10.06 am in Pennsylvania:
"Local emergency officials said they received a cell phone call at 9.58 am from a man who said he was a passenger aboard the flight. The man said he had locked himself in the bathroom and told emergency dispatchers that the plane had been hijacked. "We are being hijacked! We are being hijacked!" he was quoted as saying. A California man identified as Tom Burnett reportedly called his wife and told her that somebody on the plane had been stabbed. "We're all going to die, but three of us are going to do something," he told her. "I love you honey."
The alleged call by Edward Felt from the toilet of the aircraft of UAL 93 was answered by Glenn Cramer, the emergency supervisor in Pennsylvania who took the call.
It is worth noting that Glenn Cramer was subsequently gagged by the FBI." (See Robert Wallace`s incisive analysis published in Sept 2002 by the Daily Mirror, (http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/WAL403A.html ).
Ironically, this high profile cell call by Ed Felt, which would have provided crucial evidence to the 9/11 Commission was, for some reason, not mentioned in the Report.
American Airlines Flight 11
Flight 11 took off at 7:59. Just before 8:14. The Report outlines an airphone conversation of flight attendant Betty Ong and much of the narrative hinges upon this airphone conversation
There are no clear-cut reports on the use of cell phones on Flight AA11. According to the Report, American 11 crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center at 8.46.
Concluding Remarks
A large part of the description, regarding the 19 hijackers relies on cell phone conversations with family and friends.
While a few of these calls (placed at low altitude) could have got through, the wireless technology was not available. On this issue, expert opinion within the wireless telecom industry is unequivocal.
In other words, at least part of the Commission's script in Chapter 1 on the cell phone conversations, is fabricated.
According to the American Airline / Qualcomm announcement, the technology for cell phone transmission at high altitude will only be available aboard commercial aircraft in 2006. This is an inescapable fact.
In the eyes of public opinion, the cell phone conversations on the Arab hijackers is needed to sustain the illusion that America is under attack.
The "war on terrorism" underlying the National Security doctrine relies on real time "evidence" concerning the Arab hijackers. The latter personify, so to speak, this illusive "outside enemy" (Al Qaeda), which is threatening the homeland.
Embodied into the Commission's "script" of 911, the narrative of what happened on the plane with the Arab hijackers is therefore crucial. It is an integral part of the Administration's disinformation and propaganda program. It constitutes a justification for the anti-terror legislation under the Patriot acts and the waging of America's pre-emptive wars against Afghanistan and Iraq.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

My best advice to you?

PRUNES AND GERITOL since your shit don't stink and we dont need it
clogging up this forum, OLD MAN ...
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

My best advice to you?

PRUNES AND GERITOL since your shit don't stink and we dont need it
clogging up this forum, OLD MAN ...

VERY GOOD DOC, I LIKE THAT CLOGGING UP THE FORUM.....LET'S SEE, THERE ARE LESS THEN 26,000 POSTS IN THE POLITICAL FORUM......YOU HAVE 10,337 POSTS....SO I WOULD GUESS AT LEAST 6,500 ARE IN THIS FORUM....THAT GIVES YOU 25% OF ALL THE POSTS HERE.....PROBABLY A MUCH LARGER PERCENTAGE.....SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ONCE IN A WHILE AND LET THE OTHER LIBS ANSWER THE QUESTIONS POSTED HERE.......AS YOU CAN SEE NONE HAVE......
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

suck on that Geritol bottle as things are more normal
in this part of the woods when you and ANTI EINSTEIN
are silent
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

suck on that Geritol bottle as things are more normal
in this part of the woods when you and ANTI EINSTEIN
are silent


DOC, I SEE NONE OF YOUR BOYS HAS ANSWERED YET.....MAYBE THEY DON'T WANT TO EMBARESS YOU................................. YET........
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

maybe they are waiting for you to handle spelling of words correctly ...

Let the air out of your Brit Hume blowup doll ... put down the 5th of
Southern Comfort ... zip up your shorts and hang up with Omni

AND LIFE WILL RETURN TO NORMAL
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

NONE OF YOUR BOYS AROUND TONIGHT DOC??? YOU DIDN'T GET THEM ALL JOBS WITH ALEX JONES DID YOU?????

MAYBE THEY WILL STOP IN TOMORROW AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS......
 
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

I've been at work, but everybody knows my position on this shit!
I don't know who Todd Beamer is!
I don't care if the hijackers are alive, but I doubt they are!
The plane in Pennsylvania was shot down! Believdat!
Doc probably made a grammatical error on saying he personaly heard those tapes, and now don't want to give you asholes the pleasure of giving him shit!
The shit at the Pentagon leaves a lot of explaining to be done! That grass aint fucked up at all!
I know this! You're worthless gad damn president has stopped looking for the responsible parties! And youguys are assholes!
 
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

Doc probably made a grammatical error on saying he personaly heard those tapes, and now don't want to give you asholes the pleasure of giving him shit!

A grammatical error??! He started an entire thread dedicated to the subject of him having heard those tapes!

Listen, without getting into anything else here's what it comes down to. Doc was...mistaken...about the tapes. If he won't admit it, then how can you ever have a debate with anyone about any subject when they will never admit when they were wrong, even when they clearly were?

If I'm wrong, I admit it. If someone can prove I am wrong about something, I don;t back away from that. I'm all about truth. And once my "wrong" is turned into a "right", the more stuff I know and the closer I am to the truth, whatever it may be. I don;t ever care about being proven wrong about something because that's just something that has now ben set right.

But if one refuses to ever admit when they are wrong, then they have no place ever debating about anything with anyone.
 
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What I meant was that he possibly claimed "We've got the tapes" or something meaning our side! But either way, I'm fucking sick and tired of everu god damn thread ending up in you guys gang-banging jim over it! So he's got pride. I imagine some of you do to! I know I do!
BTW, I've been telling you fuckos for months about Rove manipulating the bible-beaters, and now look at this book by Quo (or Kwo; not sure)! Admit you were wrong about that, SUCKAS!
 

ynot

EOG Dedicated
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

Good work Doc, keep em coming.:)
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

WELL, WELL, WELL....SURPRISE , SURPRISE, SURPRISE.......TWO OF THE KNOTHOLE GANE, YUNG AND YNOT COME IN AND POST AND NEITHER CAN TAKE THE TEST......I THINK IT CLEARLY SAYS YES OR NO.....BUT JUST LIKE DOC THESE LIBS CAN'T ANSWER A QUESTION.....

ON ANOTHER NOTE, VERY WELL PUT OMNI.....MISTAKEN OR LIAR,,,,SAME CRAP, THE MAN WON'T ADMIT HE EITHER LIED OR MADE A MISTAKE.....
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

I SEE NONE OF DOCS LAP DOGS WILL ANSWER.....SHOWS WHAT KIND OF BLIND FOLLOWERS YOU GUYS ARE.......

YNOT AND YUNG COME INTO A THREAD AND KISS DOCS ASS.......JUST AS EXPECTED.............
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

Hillbilly .... and you have who kissing your ass??

OMNI ....theres an "indepth source"
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

DOC, YOU'RE A FUCKING MORON.......ALL YOU HAVE ARE CUT AND PASTES AND MORE MORONS FOLLOWING YOU........


NOT WORTH MY TIME ASSHOLE.......GO GET FUCKING DRUNK......
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

DOC, YOU'RE A FUCKING JOKE....OMNI MADE YOU LOOK LIKE A PIECE OF SHIT YESTERDAY AND THE BEST YOU COULD DO AGAINST HIM WAS A VERBAL ATTACK........SHOWED WHAT A COMPLETE MORON YOU ARE, AND NONE OF YOUR LACKIES EVEN HAD THE BALLS TO DEFEND YOU.....GUESS THEY DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK AS STUPID AS YOU CAME OFF.......YOU'RE A LOSER DOC....LOOK IN THE FUCKING MIRROR......
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

Omni could not even make your dumbass look bad ...

the MAN HAS NO ANSWERS AND THAT IS WHY HIS CHICKENHAWK
ASS ran out of this forum as he opens his yap and it is slammed
shut by folks like myself who wont tolerate the Nazi lies
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

YOU HAVE TO BE A TOTAL ASSHOLE.......OMNI REBUTTED ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS........AND EVERYTIME YOU CAME UP WITH SOMETHING STUPID TO ANSWER........YOU DON'T EVEN COMPREHEND HOW STUPID YOU LOOK......OMNI MADE YOU LOOK LIKE A JERKOFF ALL DAY........AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT...

FEEL SORRY FOR YOU DOC........YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE AS TO HOW DUMB YOU LOOK........
 
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

ON ANOTHER NOTE, VERY WELL PUT OMNI.....MISTAKEN OR LIAR,,,,SAME CRAP, THE MAN WON'T ADMIT HE EITHER LIED OR MADE A MISTAKE.....

Funny as hell to me that you worship an asshole just like that!!

:+signss13-
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

Funny as hell to me that you worship an asshole just like that!!

:+signss13-

YUNG, I WORSHIP NOTHING AND NOONE......

FUNNY AS HELL YOU WON'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS???? SIMPLE YES OR NO QUESTIONS....BUT DON'T MAKE DOC LOOK BAD.........
 
Deepest apologies.....

Deepest apologies.....

What questions are you talking about? I have no clue what you're referring to! Do you realize that you just argue with people and try and cut them down when they don't even know really specifically what your gd problem is? I'm just tired of hearing you and Doc argue over that shit! I mean get real! Doesn't make one single squirlet of giz which one is right or wrong! So piss on that shit!
I'm so upset that you don't like me, Devil! Please be my friend! I know I'm no real man like you! I have to park people like yours' car every day! Hopefully I'll be as good a man as you one day, squire!
Kiss my hand please and bless me with your knowledge and wisdom of the world!
Your humble servant,
Pissant Yung "asshole" Buck

:sleeping2:Sorry if i caused you any undue problems, Devil, sir!
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: Deepest apologies.....

Re: Deepest apologies.....

What questions are you talking about? I have no clue what you're referring to! Do you realize that you just argue with people and try and cut them down when they don't even know really specifically what your gd problem is? I'm just tired of hearing you and Doc argue over that shit! I mean get real! Doesn't make one single squirlet of giz which one is right or wrong! So piss on that shit!
I'm so upset that you don't like me, Devil! Please be my friend! I know I'm no real man like you! I have to park people like yours' car every day! Hopefully I'll be as good a man as you one day, squire!
Kiss my hand please and bless me with your knowledge and wisdom of the world!
Your humble servant,
Pissant Yung "asshole" Buck

:sleeping2:Sorry if i caused you any undue problems, Devil, sir!

YUNG, GUESS YOU COME INTO A THREAD AND DON'T READ IT??? THE QUESTIONS ARE IN THE FIRST POST.......AS FOR THE REST OF YOUR POST, WAKE UP KID.......I DON'T DISLIKE YOU, I DON'T HATE YOU........I DISLIKE YOUR ATTITUDE WHERE YOU THINK YOU ARE SMARTER THEN THE REST OF US.......I DISLIKE THE WAY YOU THINK YOU CAN COME OFF CALLING EVERYONE A DUMBASS THAT DOESN'T THINK LIBERAL LIKE YOU....I DISLIKE YOUR THINKING THAT A GUY WHO IS 32 AND STILL IN SCHOOL IS SOMEWHAT SUPERIOR TO THE REST OF US...........BELIEVE ME KID....YOUR NOT.....
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

NO FULL BLOWN ANSWERS JUST A SIMPLE YES OR NO.......I SAY YOU GUYS WON'T ANSWER...

1) DO YOU BELIEVE THE 9-11 TERRORISTS ARE STILL ALIVE LIKE DOC MERCER POSTED....YES OR NO.....

2) DO YOU BELIEVE THE TOWERS 1,2 # 7 WERE TAKEN DOWN WITH ANYTHING OTHER THEN THE FIRES CAUSED BY THE PLANE CRASHES LIKE DOC MERCER PROCLAIMS.....YES OR NO????

3) DO YOU BELIEVE TODD BEAMER EXISTED......YES OR NO????

4) DO YOU BELIEVE DOC MERCER HEARD THE TAPES HE CLAIMS HE HEARD???? YES OR NO???

I DOUBT IF YUNGBUCK, ZZ CREAM, YNOT OR STUCCO WILL ALL ANSWER THIS AS THEY DON'T (a) WANT TO LOOK STUPID OR (b) DON'T WANT TO MAKE DOC LOOK STUPID......
I'll answer , but you put this up after I already went to bed, that's why it took awhile for me to find this.

1)No. 2)No. 3)Yes. 4)Yes.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

Yung:

Typical Devil .... he slams everyone and has slammed me since day one

You are wasting your time as he basically is stating that someone that is
trying to improve their situation in life is a loser??? Really? My Father
didnt complete his college requirements until in his early 30s and rose
to the top of the food chain as a comptroller @ a military base

Dont listent to that shit ... keep moving forward and realize Devil is an
old man who is most likely jealous to make those comments
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

I'll answer , but you put this up after I already went to bed, that's why it took awhile for me to find this.

1)No. 2)No. 3)Yes. 4)Yes.


VERY GOOD ZZ, SO YOU THINK DOC IS WRONG ON 3 OF 4 QUESTIONS....BUT YOU THINK DOC HAS ACTUALLY HEARD THOSE TAPES.......YOU SHOW A QUALITY THE REST OF THE LIBS HERE DON'T.....HONESTY.......
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

http://www.welfarestate.com/911/



<center> Tracking the 19 Hijackers
What are they up to now?
At least 9 of them survived 9/11


A former high-level intelligence official told me, "Whatever trail was left
was left deliberately--for the F.B.I. to chase."
New Yorker 10/1/01 by Seymour Hersh <hr> American Airlines #11 Boeing 767
7:45 a.m. Departed Boston for Los Angeles
8:45 a.m. Crashed into North Tower of World Trade Center
<table> <tbody><tr><td valign="top">
Satam Suqami
Used Firearm</td> <td valign="top">
Waleed Alshehri
Still Alive<sup>3</sup></td> <td valign="top">
Wail Alshehri
Still alive<sup>10</sup>
BL Video<sup>12</sup></td> <td valign="top">
Mohamed Atta
Still Alive<sup>9</sup>
U.S. Military<sup>1</sup></td> <td valign="top">
Abdulaziz Alomari
Still Alive<sup>4</sup>
U.S. Military<sup>1</sup></td> </tr> </tbody></table> <hr> American Airlines #77 - Boeing 757
8:10 a.m. Departed Dulles for Los Angeles
9:39 a.m. Crashed into Pentagon
<table> <tbody><tr><td valign="top">
Khalid Almihdhar
Still Alive<sup>2</sup>
Lived w/FBI<sup>20</sup></td> <td valign="top">
Majed Moqed</td> <td valign="top">
Nawaf Alhazmi
Lived w/FBI<sup>20</sup></td> <td valign="top">
Salem Alhazmi
Still Alive<sup>6</sup>
BL Video<sup>12</sup></td> <td valign="top">
Hani Hanjour
Lacked alleged
flying ability<sup>19</sup>
</td> </tr></tbody></table> <hr> United Airlines #175 - Boeing 767
7:58 a.m. Departed Boston for Los Angeles
9:05 a.m. Crashed into South Tower of World Trade Center
<table><tbody><tr> <td valign="top">
Marwan Al-Shehhi
Still Alive<sup>11</sup>
Alleged Pilot</td> <td valign="top">
Fayez Rashid</td> <td valign="top">
Ahmed Alghamdi
U.S. Military<sup>1</sup></td> <td valign="top">
Hamza Alghamdi
Fabrications<sup>18</sup>
U.S. Military<sup>1</sup></td> <td valign="top">
Mohand Alshehri</td> </tr></tbody></table> <hr> United Airlines #93 - Boeing 757
8:42 a.m. Departed Newark for San Francisco
10:03 a.m. Crashed in Stony Creek Township
<table><tbody><tr> <td valign="top">
Saeed Alghamdi
Still Alive<sup>5</sup>
U.S. Military<sup>1</sup> </td> <td valign="top">
Ahmad Haznawi</td> <td valign="top">
Ahmed Alnami
Still Alive<sup>7</sup>
U.S. Military<sup>1</sup></td> <td valign="top">
Ziad Samir Jarrah
Fabrications<sup>16</sup>
Alleged Pilot</td> </tr></tbody></table> <hr> <!--- !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ---> The FBI still says these are the terrorists.<sup>14</sup> But when they are found alive,
the FBI says their identity was stolen, and its not the terrorist.<sup>15</sup>

Remember that suspicious bin Laden "confession" video?

How could he praise uninvolved living people<sup>12</sup> for the 9/11 hijackings?
If they stole identities, how did the FBI identify those passengers as terrorists?
Not by flight calls, which contradict the FBI<sup>13</sup> information!

These aren't the first mistakes. FBI quickly had amended the original list<sup>8</sup>,
as the original "suicide hijackers" came forward!
Back to top
<!--- !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ---> <table width="90%"><tbody><tr><td> <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]1[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/specials/attacked/A38270-2001Sep15.html
Washington Post - 9/16/01 - 2nd Witness Arrested; 25 Held for Questioning
Two of 19 suspects named by the FBI, Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmed Alghamdi, have the same names as men listed at a housing facility for foreign military trainees at Pensacola. Two others, Hamza Alghamdi and Ahmed Alnami, have names similar to individuals listed in public records as using the same address inside the base. In addition, a man named Saeed Alghamdi graduated from the Defense Language Institute at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, while men with the same names as two other hijackers, Mohamed Atta and Abdulaziz Alomari, appear as graduates of the U.S. International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., and the Aerospace Medical School at Brooks Air Force Base in San Antonio, respectively. order Mohamed Atta and the Venice Flying Circus, the real story of the Hijackers <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]2[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
BBC - 9/23/01 - Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
And there are suggestions that another suspect, Khalid Al Midhar, may also be alive.
http://www.azstarnet.com/attack/10928TERRORISTMUGGRAPHIC.html
Online Service of the Arizona Daily Star - 9/28/01 - Hijack suspect profiles
"An FBI notice to banks on Sept. 19 raised the possibility that Almihdhar might still be alive without speculating or explaining how that could be possible. "
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/27/inv.suspects/
CNN - 9/28/01 - Details of hijacking suspects released
Khalid Almihdhar: there are reports he is still alive <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]3[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
BBC - 9/23/01 - Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well. Saudi Arabian pilot Waleed Al Shehri was one of five men that the FBI said had deliberately crashed American Airlines flight 11 into the World Trade Centre on 11 September. Now he is protesting his innocence from Casablanca, Morocco. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]4[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=94438
'Suicide hijacker' is an airline pilot alive and well in Jeddah - 9/17/01
A man named by the US Department of Justice as a suicide hijacker of American Airlines flight 11 * the first airliner to smash into the World Trade Centre * is very much alive and living in Jeddah. Abdulrahman al-Omari, a pilot with Saudi Airlines, was astonished to find himself accused of hijacking * as well as being dead * and has visited the US consulate in Jeddah to demand an explanation.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC_suspects.html
ABC - Who Did It? FBI Links Names to Terror Attacks
"The name [listed by the FBI] is my name and the birth date is the same as mine, but I am not the one who bombed the World Trade Center in New York," Abdulaziz Alomari told the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper.
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml
Revealed: the men with stolen identities - 9/23/01
Mr Al-Omari, who was accused of hijacking the American Airlines plane that smashed into the the World Trade Centre's north tower, said that he was at his desk at the Saudi telecommunications authority in Riyadh when the attacks took place.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
BBC - 9/23/01 - Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
Abdulaziz Al Omari, another of the Flight 11 hijack suspects, has also been quoted in Arab news reports. He says he is an engineer with Saudi Telecoms, and that he lost his passport while studying in Denver. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]5[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml
Revealed: the men with stolen identities - 9/23/01
The Saudi Airlines pilot, Saeed Al-Ghamdi, 25, and Abdulaziz Al-Omari, an engineer from Riyadh, are furious that the hijackers' "personal details" - including name, place, date of birth and occupation - matched their own.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
BBC - 9/23/01 - Hijack 'suspects' alive and well
Meanwhile, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, a London-based Arabic daily, says it has interviewed Saeed Alghamdi. He was listed by the FBI as a hijacker in the United flight that crashed in Pennsylvania. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]6[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml
Revealed: the men with stolen identities - 9/23/01
Mr Al-Hamzi is 26 and had just returned to work at a petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou after a holiday in Saudi Arabia when the hijackers struck. He was accused of hijacking the American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon. He said: "I have never been to the United States and have not been out of Saudi Arabia in the past two years." The FBI described him as 21 and said that his possible residences were Fort Lee or Wayne, both in New Jersey. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]7[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/23/widen23.xml
Revealed: the men with stolen identities - 9/23/01
Mr Al-Nami, 33, from Riyadh, an administrative supervisor with Saudi Arabian Airlines, said that he was in Riyadh when the terrorists struck. He said: "I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked." <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]8[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/investigation.terrorism/index.html
CNN - FBI: Early probe results show 18 hijackers took part 9/13/01
Based on information from multiple law enforcement sources, CNN reported that Adnan Bukhari and Ameer Bukhari of Vero Beach Florida, were suspected to be two of the pilots who crashed planes into the World Trade Center. CNN later learned that Adnan Bukhari is still in Florida, where he was questioned by the FBI. We are sorry for the misinformation. A federal law enforcement source now tells CNN that Bukhari passed an FBI polygraph and is not considered a suspect. Through his attorney, Bukhari says that he is helping authorities. Ameer Bukhari died in a small plane crash last year.
Some of those involved in the plot left suicide notes, but they are not believed to have been the hijackers, a government source told The Associated Press. It was unclear whether those who left the notes actually killed themselves. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]9[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> Cairo Times - 9/27/01
He also claimed that his son had called him two days after the attack, and described it as "a normal conversation." But he snarled when asked to give further details. Asked what country Muhammad had called from, he said, "The name of the country isn't written on the phone." Asked where Muhammad was now, he said, "Ask Mossad."
order Mohamed Atta and the Venice Flying Circus, the real story of the Hijackers
Video shows Atta was not suicidal, as he pays bills and returns rentals. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]10[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-092101probe.story
Los Angeles Times - 9/21/01
A man by the same name is a pilot, whose father is a Saudi diplomat in Bombay. "I personally talked to both father and son today," said Gaafar Allagany, head of the Saudi Embassy's information center. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]11[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> Saudi Gazette 9/18/01 and The Khaleej Times 9/20/01
Marwan al-Shehhi is still alive in Morocco <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]12[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/12/20/attack/main322092.shtml
CBS - Bin Laden Names Hijackers On Tape Dec. 20, 2001
He would identify only three: Nawaq Alhamzi, Salem Alhamzi and Wail Alshehri. Alshehri was on American Airlines flight 11, one of the planes that hit the Twin Towers at the World Trade Center in New York; Alhamzi and Alhamzi were on American Airlines flight 77, which hit the Pentagon.
Bin Laden's "smoking gun" video names living, uninvolved people? This makes no sense!
This is just the beginning, this "confession" video is full of abnormalities. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]13[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1556096.stm
BBC- The last moments of Flight 11
The FBI has named five hijackers on board Flight 11, whereas Ms Sweeney spotted only four. Also, the seat numbers she gave were different from those registered in the hijackers' names. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]14[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel01/092701hjpic.htm
U.S. Department of Justice
Federal Bueau of Investigation - Hijackers
<table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]15[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1553754.stm
BBC - FBI probes hijackers' identities 9/21/01
It believes that some of the hijackers used false identities, possibly even names of people who are still alive, which could significantly complicate the manhunt. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]16[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sns-worldtrade-jarrah-lat.story
Los Angeles Times - 10/23/01 - Friends of terror suspect say allegations make no sense
By Carol J. Williams Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
...Ziad and Salim ... left Lebanon together April 4, 1996, at the age of 20, heading to the eastern German town of Greifswald in pursuit of both an education and a good time.
Jarrah and the other three men named by the FBI as hijackers...initially came to be on the list of 19 because they "have been identified as having 'Arabic' names
http://web.archive.org/web/20010925...n/Hijack_suspect_lived_a_life_or_a_lie+.shtml
Boston Globe - Hijack suspect lived a life, or a lie - 9/25/01
Although a Brooklyn apartment lease from 1995-1996 bears Ziad Jarrah's name - and landlords there have identified his photograph - his family insists he was in Beirut at the time.
How was he in Brooklyn and Lebanon at the same time?
..two days before the hijacking, his nephew called and told the family he'd be coming home for a cousin's wedding in mid-September. "He said he had even bought a new suit for the occasion."
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/01/cia.hijacker/index.html
CNN 8/1/02 - September 11 hijacker questioned in January 2001
The CIA suspected Ziad Jarrah had been in Afghanistan and wanted him questioned because of "his suspected involvement in terrorist activities," UAE sources said.
A CIA spokesman vigorously denied that the CIA knew anything about Jarrah before September 11 or had anything do with his questioning in Dubai. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]17[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> The New Yorker - What Went Wrong
by Seymour Hersh - 10/1/01
Many of the investigators believe that some of the initial clues that were uncovered about the terrorists' identities and preparations, such as flight manuals, were meant to be found. A former high-level intelligence official told me, "Whatever trail was left was left deliberately--for the F.B.I. to chase."
In interviews over the past two weeks, a number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden's capabilities. "This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he's running this operation?" one C.I.A. official asked. "It's so huge. He couldn't have done it alone." A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States, a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]18[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19549-2001Sep24.html
Washington Post - 9/25/01 - Some Light Shed On Saudi Suspects - A12
Still, the father of Alghamdi told Al Watan that the picture provided by the FBI was not that of his son. "It has no resemblance to him at all," he said. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]19[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.newsday.com/ny-usflight232380680sep23.story
Tracing Trail Of Hijackers - By Thomas Frank - 9/23/01
At Freeway Airport in Bowie, Md., 20 miles west of Washington, flight instructor Sheri Baxter instantly recognized the name of alleged hijacker Hani Hanjour when the FBI released a list of 19 suspects in the four hijackings. Hanjour, the only suspect on Flight 77 the FBI listed as a pilot, had come to the airport one month earlier seeking to rent a small plane.... However, when Baxter and fellow instructor Ben Conner took....Hanjour on three test runs during the second week of August, they found he had trouble controlling and landing the single-engine Cessna 172. .....chief flight instructor Marcel Bernard declined to rent him a plane without more lessons.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A14365-2001Sep11.html
Washington Post - On Flight 77: 'Our Plane Is Being Hijacked' - 9/12/01 - Page A01
...the unidentified pilot executed a pivot so tight that it reminded observers of a fighter jet maneuver. The plane circled 270 degrees to the right to approach the Pentagon from the west, whereupon Flight 77 fell below radar level, vanishing from controllers' screens, the sources said.... Aviation sources said the plane was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm... Someone even knew how to turn off the transponder, a move that is considerably less than obvious. <table width="80%"><tbody><tr><td>[SIZE=+2]20[/SIZE]</td><td width="100%"><hr></td></tr></tbody></table> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/09/attack/main521223.shtml
CBS - Hijackers Lived With FBI Informant - Sept. 9, 2002
Two of the Sept. 11 hijackers who lived in San Diego in 2000 rented a room from a man who reportedly worked as an undercover FBI informant....the FBI informant prayed with them and even helped one open a bank account.
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The Devil

EOG Master
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IF YOU LIKE JAY......
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
We All Need More Respect And Less Shouting Around Here!

We All Need More Respect And Less Shouting Around Here!

Everyone is free to have and to express their opinions but I do not understand why there has to be so much vitrolicity and shouting in doing so....why can't we all take it down a notch or two and be civilized. I understand passion but he did it first does not cut it for me. Please, this place could be very good if we all had more respect for each other.:cheers
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

1) I do believe the 9-11 Terrorists are still alive because FBI said it so
2) I do believe that there were something else which helped the towers taken down other then plane fuel
3) Yes I do believe Todd Beamer existed
4) Yes


NO FULL BLOWN ANSWERS JUST A SIMPLE YES OR NO.......I SAY YOU GUYS WON'T ANSWER...

1) DO YOU BELIEVE THE 9-11 TERRORISTS ARE STILL ALIVE LIKE DOC MERCER POSTED....YES OR NO.....

2) DO YOU BELIEVE THE TOWERS 1,2 # 7 WERE TAKEN DOWN WITH ANYTHING OTHER THEN THE FIRES CAUSED BY THE PLANE CRASHES LIKE DOC MERCER PROCLAIMS.....YES OR NO????

3) DO YOU BELIEVE TODD BEAMER EXISTED......YES OR NO????

4) DO YOU BELIEVE DOC MERCER HEARD THE TAPES HE CLAIMS HE HEARD???? YES OR NO???

I DOUBT IF YUNGBUCK, ZZ CREAM, YNOT OR STUCCO WILL ALL ANSWER THIS AS THEY DON'T (a) WANT TO LOOK STUPID OR (b) DON'T WANT TO MAKE DOC LOOK STUPID......
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: We All Need More Respect And Less Shouting Around Here!

Re: We All Need More Respect And Less Shouting Around Here!

Everyone is free to have and to express their opinions but I do not understand why there has to be so much vitrolicity and shouting in doing so....why can't we all take it down a notch or two and be civilized. I understand passion but he did it first does not cut it for me. Please, this place could be very good if we all had more respect for each other.:cheers

ZZ, YOU SHOW A VOICE OF REASON.......BUT IF YOU WANT A DIOLOGE YOU MUST HAVE ONE TWO WAYS......I CAN ASK AND ANSWER.......SAME AS YOU.......BUT I REFUSE TO BE CIVIL TO DOC......HOW CAN YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF DEBATE WITH A MAN THAT WILL NOT ANSWER......

LOOK AROUND ZZ, AND TELL ME HONESTLY IF YOU THINK I AM THE MAIN PROBLEM HERE OR IS DOC MERCER......

YES WE HAVE TWO FACTIONS HERE.......AND WE WILL ALWAYS HAVE THAT......BUT WHY IS IT ALL THOSE ON THE RIGHT ARE NOT ATTACKING YOU AND ARE ATTACKING DOC???? THINK THERE IS A REASON???
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
We All Need More Respect And Less Shouting Around Here!

We All Need More Respect And Less Shouting Around Here!

I guess asking everybody to be civil is asking too much.....my bad. Good Luck with your Mets D!
 

ynot

EOG Dedicated
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

Devil, you are nothing like ZZ. Wishing you were..... doesn't make it so.
 
Re: LETS SEE WHAT LIBS HAVE BALLS TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS

NO FULL BLOWN ANSWERS JUST A SIMPLE YES OR NO.......I SAY YOU GUYS WON'T ANSWER...

1) DO YOU BELIEVE THE 9-11 TERRORISTS ARE STILL ALIVE LIKE DOC MERCER POSTED....YES OR NO.....

2) DO YOU BELIEVE THE TOWERS 1,2 # 7 WERE TAKEN DOWN WITH ANYTHING OTHER THEN THE FIRES CAUSED BY THE PLANE CRASHES LIKE DOC MERCER PROCLAIMS.....YES OR NO????

3) DO YOU BELIEVE TODD BEAMER EXISTED......YES OR NO????

4) DO YOU BELIEVE DOC MERCER HEARD THE TAPES HE CLAIMS HE HEARD???? YES OR NO???

I DOUBT IF YUNGBUCK, ZZ CREAM, YNOT OR STUCCO WILL ALL ANSWER THIS AS THEY DON'T (a) WANT TO LOOK STUPID OR (b) DON'T WANT TO MAKE DOC LOOK STUPID......

Ok, let's see if I get this right. Rather than an objective Q & A, there seems a need to discredit a single guy who you obviously vehemently disagree with. Why would anyone's beliefs become such a threat so as to go to these lengths?

Having said that, and being a Conservative Democrat, I'll answer.

1. Of course. We know that many died in the perpetration of the crime, but many others provided tactical assistance in support. Many have yet to be apprehended and brought to justice

2. Well for the most part fire was the primary factor. Can't discount the initial impact and the structural damage that occured which was exacerbated by the fire.

3. Have no concrete evidence to suggest otherwise, that he did not exist.

4. Have no way of confirming that first-hand.


Now, what exactly do this series of questions intend to prove?

Are you willing to be receptive of the same type of questioning directed at the far righty's regarding very questionable defenses of the country's leadership, specifically Cheney and Dumsfeld?

:+clueless
 
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