WHAT WAS WALMART THINKING

November 9, 2006 Please help us get this information into the hands of as many people as possible by forwarding it to your entire email list of family and friends. Wal-Mart Contributes 5% Of Online Sales To Homosexual Group <http://emailoffers.store.afa.net/a/jgroup/bg_store-afanet_afaso-1004-2-bp_276.html> Sign the pledge not to shop at Wal-Mart or Sam's Club on the Friday and Saturday following Thanksgiving. Time is short. Act today! Dear Neil, Help recruit 1,000,000 families who will agree not to shop at Wal-Mart or Sam's Club (owned by Wal-Mart) on the Friday and Saturday following Thanksgiving. Here's why:

In a show of support to help homosexuals legalize same-sex marriage, Wal-Mart has agreed to automatically donate 5% of online sales directly to the Washington DC Community Center for Gay, Lesbian Bisexual and Transgender People. The cash donation will come from online purchases made at Wal-Mart through the homosexual group's Web site. This move follows Wal-Mart's joining the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce and agreeing to give generous financial help to that organization also.

Every purchase made online for books, music, videos, clothing and accessories, children's clothing and toys, and electronics at the site will automatically send 5% of the sales to the CCBLBT People. The agreement is an indication that Wal-Mart is totally committed to supporting the homosexual movement.

Wal-Mart also gave a generous cash donation to the Northwest Arkansas Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender Community Center, helping to provide a place where homosexuals can come together to "socialize."

Many observers feel it would have been a wise business decision for Wal-Mart to remain neutral in the cultural battle over homosexual marriage. But this was an ideological decision by Wal-Mart - not a business decision.



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dirty

EOG Master
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IMO...If this is True....it is their money and they can give it to who they want.... it is a free country and if they have the best prices Fuck it I am shopping there...
 
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and that is your right, as it is my right to post that.

the point is..doesnt walmart realize they are going to alienate quite a few people by doing this..

i know it hurt disney when they had the gla there....

just posting for all to see

:whatever:
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
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WalMart has done almost as much damage to the US as GWB has.......at least they are giving something back to the community.......for a change. Don't worry KGB.....they'll send some to Alabama too.
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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Well KTB is right. There is not a single religion who actually teaches people this.
I mean where all this started and it's ruining our kids future and this country's future.
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
Re: WHAT WAS WALMART THINKING

Well KTB is right. There is not a single religion who actually teaches people this.
I mean where all this started and it's ruining our kids future and this country's future.
I always picture God and Allah as Queers........I mean, if they're not why aren't they out there getting laid?:+music1-6 :+music1-6 :+music1-6
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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Come on zz.

Don't compare men with God. Men and animals do this not God.

God doesn't eat. He doesn't have Wife, Son, Friends. He alone is the master

and take care of the whole universe.
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
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Come on zz.

Don't compare men with God. Men and animals do this not God.

God doesn't eat. He doesn't have Wife, Son, Friends. He alone is the master

and take care of the whole universe.
I don't believe that. Why would he or she give us these urges and sensations without at least trying them him or herself? How would they even think up sex and eating good in the neighborhood without trying it themselves? Plus, if God/Allah created Queers, he must love them equal to the heterosexuals, right?
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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Just as God created men, He created angels too.

Angels are Pure and therefore can't have sex. That's how we know that God doesn't have sex because he is pure.
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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* Matt. 22:30, ?For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven."
* Luke 20:34-36, ?The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage; 36 for neither can they die anymore, for they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection."
 

ynot

EOG Dedicated
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Jay, I am curious.......How does Rep4life weigh in on this Wal-mart issue?
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
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* Matt. 22:30, ?For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven."
* Luke 20:34-36, ?The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, 35 but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage; 36 for neither can they die anymore, for they are like angels, and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection."
Is that like God's slang for Queers? Maybe that's the way, uh-huh, uh-huh, he likes it, uh-huh, uh-huh.:dancefool :dancefool :dancefool I have always thought I could get rich opening an 'Our God Is Queer Church'. Take the stigmatization out of being homosexual and teach all Queers that they are loved by God.
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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zz, you are really bad....

Can even imagine all this man....
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
Re: WHAT WAS WALMART THINKING

zz, you are really bad....

Can even imagine all this man....
I know....I imagine Allah/God being like a Mick Jagger.....he got so much pusssy that if he veered off the beaten track a few times.....who could blame him?:dancefool :dancefool :dancefool
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
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jay hasn't taken the Turbin off yet...rep will be here in a little bit to weigh in :+textinb3
You guys quit picking on each other and get back to serious issues......like whom Allah is tagging this week. LOL.:+music1-6 :+music1-6 :+music1-6
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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zz, come on man. Stop it :(

I guess I should of not involve in this issue in the first place.
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
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I guess Muhammed was silent on this issue.......the next time one of you all's meetings is going a little slow......you know what to ask now. LOL.:dancefool :dancefool :dancefool :dancefool :dancefool :dancefool
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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Islam clearly forbids people from homosexuality


HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE LIGHT OF ISLAM

The aim of natural sexuality is procreation. Lawful and natural sexual relations between man and woman has been designed by Allah to preserve the human race here on earth. Homosexuality is negatory of the natural role and aim of sexual activity.
The experts on homosexuality and other forms of sexual deviation advance a series of groundless assumptions in their discussion on the causes of such unnatural sexuality. They attribute it to hereditary taints, genetic causes, environmental influences, animal instincts in man, etc. In certain cases, e.g. ‘transiet homosexuality’ where men are separated from women such as prisons, same sex institutions, etc. they argue that the criminal’s blame will be considered as diminished in view of his circumstances.
Islam does not accept any type of justification for the unnatural sin of homosexuality regardless of any biological, psychological or environmental factors which may influence a man to indulge in this type of grossly unnatural immorality. This should not be interpreted to mean that Islam does not recognize the reality or validity of the existence of the various factors which influence man to commit homosexuality. However, the presence of any destructive influences which lead man towards this unnatural and bestial act of immorality does not constitute a valid excuse for indulgence in acts of deviation and inhumanity. Just as fornication, rape and other criminal acts of immorality cannot be condoned because of biological, psychological, environmental, factors, etc, which may be the causes which occasion the crime, so too, can these factors not be cited in favour of diminished blame for the act of homosexuality. In spite of the existence of the factors (described as causes) of adultery, human culture does not permit man and woman to indulge in this crime notwithstanding the naturalness of heterosexuality. They are required to restrain themselves and behave within the bounds of chastity and morality.
In like manner man is required to exercise restraint and overcome his emotional, biological demands, etc. and manage the disturbances within him. He, as a member of the highest species of Allah's creation, is under moral obligation to control the dictates of his lust - whether such lust directs him towards unnatural or natural avenues - and refrain from smearing his soul and intellect in such loathsome indulgence.
Modern studies and the many consequent theories regarding the crime of homosexuality lend to convey a blurred conception of the Biological disturbances as well as some environmental factors are even tendered as mitigating circumstances to reduce the stigma and the blame from the homosexual. This idea has made homosexuals daring and revengeful of their unnatural crimes. They have come to regard their misdirected lust as morally acceptable. They, as well as the 'experts' who have undertaken research in homosexuality, have deceived themselves into believing in the idea of diminished, blame and moral acceptance, of this unnatural act. As long as man's intelligence is not inflicted with insanity, he is held responsible for his actions and he is Islamically under compulsion to restrain his perverted cravings so that he does not descend into a sub-human level of existence.
Man's gratification of his sexual appetite with another man has a long history of its own. The Qur'an bears testimony t the fact that the people of the prophet Lut (Alayhis salaam), the nephew of Ibriham (Alayhis salaam), sent as a warning to the people of Sodom and Gomorrah, were those who initiated this heinous practice. Before them it was unknown. In this connection the Qur'an mentions:
"We also sent Lut. He said to his people, 'Do you commit indecency such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For you practise your lusts on men in preference to women; you are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."
These Sodomites even indulged in their homosexual orgies publicly. Their wickedness had attained the level where the mere sight of a handsome young man made them so agitated that they pounced upon him as famished people would fall on food. Even honoured guests did not enjoy immunity or any privileged position. They did not hesitate in even resorting to violence in achieving their lustful object.
The Qur'aan has depicted the scene when the angels of punishment Lut (Alayhis salaam) as his guests in the guise of handsome young men. Hadrat Lut (Alayhis salaam) did not recognized them in the first instance. But he knew the shameless habit of his people. He was extremely distressed and he apprehended that his people would certainly demand unnatural and shameful sexual activity. His apprehension was correct. They could not sit silently at the news of such "boys" of excellent beauty. These sodomites recklessly rushed to the home of Lut (Alayhis salaam) to gratify their unnatural desires. Lut (Alayhis salaam) found himself in a difficult situation. He prompted them to legally satisfy their sexual appetite with women even offering his daughter in lawful marriage to the most gentle of them, and not insisting on this unnatural outlet. Then he very effectively appealed to them, in the name of Almighty, that they should abstain from disgracing him by dishonouring his guests.
The Qur'an states:
"And his people came rushing towards him, and they had been long in the habit of practising abominations. He said: "O my people! Here are my daughters: they ore purer for you (if you marry)! Now fear Allah, and cover me not with shame about my guests! Is there not among you a right-handed man?"
But the accursed people inflamed with evil passions turned a deaf ear to all his reasoning with them. They had lost all sense of morality and were blind in their voluptuous sentiments. On this occasion they even taunted him for his frequent protests in the past against their sins. Hadrat Lut (Alayhis salaam) seemed helpless in the situation in which he found himself, - alone against a rabble of people inflamed with lustful passions. He wished he had the strength to suppress them himself or had some powerful support to lean on! But the powerful support was there, though he had not realized it till then. It was the support of the Almighty. His guests were not ordinary men, but Angels who had come to test the people before they inflicted punishment. They now declared themselves and gave him directions to get away before the morning, when the punishment would descend on the doomed cities. Even in Lut's (Alayhis salaam) household was one, i.e. his wife, who detracted from the harmony of the family. She lagged behind and looked back, i.e. one whose mental and moral attitude, in spite of association with the righteous was to hark back to the glitter of wickedness and sin. Finally, the wrath of Almighty descended upon them, their cities were turned upside down and showers of stone rained on them. Regarding this the Qur'aan mentions:
"Then when Our decree came to pass. We turned the cities upside down, and We rained thereon stones of baked clay, piled up."
The punishment of turning upside down given to this people resembles outwardly their shameless deed of homosexuality. The shower of stone was very thick so as to form layers. It is also said that the name of each man was written or engraved on those stones which were the cause of their annihilation. The inversion of cities by way of punishment was the task which was assigned to Jibraaell (Alayhis salaam). Homosexuality is also a form of sexual inversion, hence the type of punishment was most befitting in that it also symbolized their unnatural acts of immorality. Showers of stones (not hail-stones, but real stones) are not a normal occurrence. So too, the punuhment of the inversion of the cities (was quite rightly justified). Thus, unnatural forms of punishment were prescribed by Allah for the unnatural sins of the homosexual community.
The community of Lut (Alayhis salaam) was a prosperous nation materially and they inhabited five cities: Sodom, Gamurah, Udmah, Laboobem and Sughar. The Qur’aan refers collectively to these five cities with the term Mu’tafikaat (the inverted cities). The cities are so designated because of the perverted crimes of sexual inversion of their inhabitants and because they were physically inverted and eliminated by the command of Allah.
Before the people of Sodom, never did this evil even enter the mind of mankind, let alone practicing it. The Umayyad Khalifah "Abdul Malik said that if this episode of the homosexuals was not mentioned in the Qur'an, he would not have conceded the reality of this crime since it was unthinkable that man will descend to such a degenerate level and debase himself in a type of act which is not indulged in by even the overwhelming majority of lowly beasts.'
Nevertheless, even after the community to which prophet Lut (Alayhis salaam) was sent as cautioner, met their catastrophic end, sodomy continued and even sometimes flourished. It is now known that homosexuality existed before the pre-Christian era among the so-called 'civihilised' nations of the world especially the Greeks and Romans. It was not only confined to common masses, but even legendary and prominent figures such as Socrates, Aristotle, Julius Caesar and many others practiced it. (Miftahi)
In thirteenth century France, homosexuality was the great craze of the day and the government of the country had to enact a law that those found of guilty of this unnatural crime will be put to death. And Germany was not far behind in the pursuit of this craze. Before Nazi Germany there was a famous person, Dr Magnus Herschefield, (who had been the president of the society for the Reformation of Sexual behaviour), who launched powerful propaganda in favour of sodomy for six years. Finally ‘democracy’ acceded to this demand and the strictly forbidden became approved. It was decided by majority vote that homosexuality among the males was no longer an offence provided it was indulged in with mutual consent of the parties involved and in case of the object of the unnatural love being a minor, his guardian had to give his consent. In the Orient, Iran has been notorious and Persian poetry amply supports it. Karachi has also been named in this regard. It is said there were three centres there, where eunuchs carried on that unnatural business. Afghanistan (then under Communist influence) has also been mentioned. India, too, is not so clean in her records in this field, although the common people are involved in it to a limited extent. It is the educated and the sophisticated people who take to it as a diversion. The educational institutions, schools, colleges and centres of oriental studies too are not free from this curse.
Islam strictly forbade this detestable deed and prescribed the severed punishment, relenting not in the least in making it a deterrent. The Qur'aan cautions that once people take to homosexuality, they sink to the depths of moral degradation. The admonitory punishment meted out to these transgressors was described in such a moving way that those reciting the Qur'an may learn the harsh consequences of this evil, and may protect themselves from this outrageous crime. To deter the Muslims from evil, the Qur’aan initially declared to those participating in this perversion:
"If two men among you are guilty of indecency, punish them both."
Once Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) expressed his anticipated fear by stating that among the evils that his ummah can take to, he feared sodomy most. In fact, this was a forewarning measure that the ummah may guard against, realizing that the prophet himself had forbidden it. On one occasion Prophet (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) declared:
"Whoever gratifies his sexual urge with another (individual} of his own sex,, Almighty will not so much as look at him."
Undoubtedly, sodomy is one of the most repulsive acts, even observed among beasts. Therefore, the sight of a homosexual will be so disgusting to Allah that it will intensify His anger to heights where He will not even consider glancing at a sodomist. Through this act, man degrades his humanity and announces extermination as his policy. Moreover, it implies wretchedness and misery of the womenfolk and he himself is prone to so many diseases: the basic organs of his body, brain, heart, liver and kidneys become deficiently immune (AIDS), his face lacks the sparkle of health and he looks off-colour and melancholy, with the result that such an incapacitated criminal becomes worthless to women. This wretched outcast deprives himself of the bounty of procreation and the priceless jewel of morality.

 

The Devil

EOG Master
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GOOD THING THERE ARE NO MUSLIM F A G S ............ALLAH WOULD HAVE TO FILL HIS QUOTA FOR THEM OF 72 VIRGINS OF THE OPPOSITE SEX.....

BY THE WAY....HOW DO THEY HAVE SO MANY CHILDREN WITH ALL THOSE VIRGINS.........

I GOT IT...OSMOSIS.........
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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Christianity and Homosexuality

Christianity and Homosexuality

Many Christian faiths hold that homosexual behavior is (and always has been) a sin. Some faiths also condemn homosexual orientation, regardless of behavior.
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The Biblical passages most often used to condemn homosexuality are:

Leviticus 18:22: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 20:13: "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Romans 1:26-32: "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; ... without natural affection, ... who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."

Corinthians 6:9-10: "Neither ... effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, ... shall inherit the kingdom of God."
(You can find the detaile discussion on the same issue on WordIQ.com - Search for Knowledge.)

Christian theologians who do not believe homosexuality to be a sin argue that the traditionalists have misinterpreted the pertinent Bible passages or quoted them selectively. They consider the original Hebrew in Leviticus to be ambiguous as to whether "male" means adult man or little boy. They also point out that Leviticus also condemns many other things that modern Christians do, including getting haircuts, eating shellfish, wearing fabrics made from two different fibers (e.g., wool/cotton blends), and planting two crops in a single field. (A humorous piece titled "An Open Letter to Dr. Laura," in which an anonymous writer thanks her for her stance against homosexuality and asks her how to kill people who get haircuts, has made the rounds on the Internet for several years.) Some apologists make a distinction between "moral" codes and "purity" (or "ritual") codes in Leviticus and say that the purity codes no longer apply but that the moral codes (including the prohibition against homosexuality) remain binding.

Other traditionalists accept that homosexual orientation is not a choice, but argue that acting on that orientation is nevertheless sinful. In these cases, most Christians who condemn homosexual behaviour would not condemn homosexual orientation, but would advocate a life of celibacy for those who have that orientation. However, the Catholic Church has been moving towards a policy of prohibiting homosexuals from being priests, even if they are celibate. This position has been put forward by some Catholic leaders as a possible way of clearing up the sex abuse scandal that has scarred the reputation of the Church in recent decades.

Liberal Christians also argue that Jesus explicitly condemned divorce—equating it with adultery in the Sermon on the Mount—but never explicitly forbade homosexuality; so they call it hypocritical to criticize homosexuality much more vocally than divorce. Also, rather than interpreting the term "adultery" in the Ten Commandments to mean any sex outside of marriage, they interpret it to mean sexual betrayal of a spouse, which would make the prohibition irrelevant to sex between unmarried persons, including unmarried homosexuals.
 
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Ya but religion tells you not to kill thy neighbour and love everyone.:cheers
Jay you posted this in another thread, yet in another post in this thread this is what you have posted about your religion.

The punishment of turning upside down given to this people resembles outwardly their shameless deed of homosexuality. The shower of stone was very thick so as to form layers. It is also said that the name of each man was written or engraved on those stones which were the cause of their annihilation. The inversion of cities by way of punishment was the task which was assigned to Jibraaell (Alayhis salaam). Homosexuality is also a form of sexual inversion, hence the type of punishment was most befitting in that it also symbolized their unnatural acts of immorality. Showers of stones (not hail-stones, but real stones) are not a normal occurrence. So too, the punuhment of the inversion of the cities (was quite rightly justified). Thus, unnatural forms of punishment were prescribed by Allah for the unnatural sins of the homosexual community

I think I missed something here. Can you explian to me how this is teaching you to love thy neighbor and to love everyone?
:+signs11-
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
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God loves everybody......even the little birdies.....and especially the Queers. If he didn't Love them so much.....he wouldn't have made 10 percent of the people in the world like him, right?:party
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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Hell On Wheels, the only thing I can tell you is, God loves everyone. It's
just that we don't know some things like homosexuality is the only cause
there is so much AIDS in the world.

There are some rules, if we obey them the way it has been told to us, we
will live our lives happily here and after. :thumbsup
 
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I know quite a few religious people.......As well do I know quite a few non-religious people.......Imo religion has little to do with happiness.....Same amout of bad breaks, hard-knocks to go around, no matter your faith.
 

ZZ CREAM

EOG Master
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I know quite a few religious people.......As well do I know quite a few non-religious people.......Imo religion has little to do with happiness.....Same amout of bad breaks, hard-knocks to go around, no matter your faith.
What do they say? There are no Atheists in foxholes?
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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http://www.geocities.com/babshai/FAITH.html


F A I T H

The name should be enough to know that I'm a muslim, by choice of course. Not just a muslim who bears the Arabic name, Abdul-Rahman, but one who lives by it. The English meaning of Abdul-Rahman is "Servant of the Compassionate." The name represents the Creator as well as one of my many characteristics (hopefully everyone too). My parents couldn't have chosen a better name. Coincidentally, my Yoruba name, Babaseyi, means: "God did this." I certainly can't disagree with that! Such names are not given for nothing; each has a reason behind it.

The word faith may have a lot of different meanings to different people, but I understand it to simply mean "believing." Believing that there is something that can't be physically proven, but that you know exists. Call it intuition, I call it faith. If this sounds 'cheesey' to the majority on a rational
level, I can't blame them. But faith, simply by it's definition, is not on a rational or log- ical level. Most people will not accept some- thing that's not logical. One way or another, I believe that everyone feels a certain connection to the spiritual. I certainly do.

As a muslim, I'm aware of the various stereotypes that Islam, and other religions,
have been given. Stereotypes are just ways ignorant people describe what they don't understand. A muslim should believe in God's prophets, angels, books, destiny, His oneness, and most of all, never associate "other gods" with Him. In Islam, God is one and one only. Prophet Muhammed is the last of His many messangers, but nothing more. On the outside, Islam may be seen to be a very difficult religion, but to those who practise and love it, Islam is life itself. Allahu Akbar! In order to understand this, one must be a practising and conscious muslim. Nevertheless, no muslim is perfect.

Many believe Islam, Judaism, and Christianity to be very different religions, but the contrary is actually true (as far as the Islamic perspective is concerned). The three religions are similar in various ways, although the approaches to their faiths are different. Notwithstanding, the Quran states boldly that these three religions were sanctioned by God Himself at different times. In Islam, we recognize all three and are tolerant to them. Nonetheless, we have chosen to be muslims in order to serve God the way He has decreed.

I certainly don't wish to sound like a preacher, but I would like to influence your decision with a very short story:


Two ladies having a discussion walk down a street on a bright sunny afternoon. They are talking about life after death. Both don't believe in it and almost make a laughing matter of the subject. They later come to the conclusion that "Heaven and Hell are just figments of the imagination which have been perpetuated by religious fanatics in order to keep check on their flocks." They then bid themselves goodbye and go to their respective homes.

After a few hours, the weather takes a turn for the worst. The rain pours down heavily and the lightening seems to go on forever. Eventually, the electricity and phonelines cut off. The first friend lights her home with candles and is reading a book when she hears a knock on the door. She wonders who could be at the door at such an ungodly hour, and she is justifiably reluctant to open it. She asks for a name and her friend answers. She opens the door and holds the candle light high enough to bearly see her friend's face. Her friend is wearing the same outfit she wore in the afternoon without any weather coat. And with water dripping from her friend's face and anxiety written in her eyes, her freind asks, "What if there is a hell?"

The story speaks for itself. If there is indeed a God and you worship Him the way you should, you'll have nothing to fear if there isn't a hell. But you`ll also have everything to gain if there is a heaven. Are you prepared to bet your life on it?
Choose wisely.
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
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Faith in God - keys for believers

What is Faith?
What Faith is not
Faith is not religion. Many times people say "We have our faith". What they mean is this: "We have our religious ideas and doctrines, our traditions, our ways of doing things passed down through the generations. Don't you try to change them." This is not the Biblical idea of faith.
Faith is not mental assent. It is not agreeing with your mind, "Yes, that is true." Many professing Christians believe mentally that the Bible is the Word of God, but this faith does not change the way they live. It is not a faith that can save. (James 2:14)
Even demons have that kind of faith. They know and believe that God exists (James 2:19) - and tremble. They have no loving confidence in God.
Faith is not a way to manipulate God. It is not a power by which we make God do what WE want when otherwise He would be unwilling to do that thing. It is not a kind of magic through which we make God into our servant!
Faith is not hope, nor positive desire. Hope is good, and relates to the future. Faith, however, takes the promise as done NOW. Many people have hope and are anxiously looking for results, but they lack the settled confidence and present assurance which faith has.
<hr> What Faith Is
In the general sense of the word, to have faith is to believe in something or someone, to fully trust, to be so confident that you base your actions on what you believe. To have faith is to be fully convinced of the truthfulness and reliability of that in which you believe.
Faith in God then, is having the kind of trust and confidence in God and in Christ that leads you to commit your whole soul to Him as Saviour (Justifier, Cleanser, Healer, Deliverer) and Lord (Master, King).
The NIV translation says, "Faith is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of what we do not see." (Hebrews 11:1 NIV).
The NKJV of the Bible says, "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." (Hebrews 11:1).
Faith is a spiritual substance. When you have this spiritual substance in you, it communicates to you a certain inner knowing that the thing you are hoping for is certainly established, even before you see any material evidence that it has happened.
Faith is a spiritual force. Faith in God is a response to God's Word which moves God to act. Jesus said in Mark 11:23, "For assuredly I say to you, whoever SAYS to this mountain, 'Be removed and cast into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart, but BELIEVES that those things he SAYS will be done, he will HAVE whatever he SAYS." Words mixed with the real, pure faith can and will move mountains or any other problem that we face.
Faith in God must be from the heart. It is not merely intellectual. It is spiritual. "For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." (Romans 10:10)
Faith causes you to know in your heart before you see with your eyes. "For we walk by faith, not by sight." (2Cor 5.7)
Some say, "Seeing is believing." Once you see the thing hoped for already existing in the natural order, you don't need faith.
Hope is a condition for faith. Hope is "a positive unwavering expectation of good". Hope is for the mind (1 Thessalonians 5:8; Hebrews 6:19), an anchor for the soul. It keeps us in the place where we can believe, but it is not in itself "faith". Yet, without hope there are no "things hoped for", and therefore there cannot be faith.
Through faith we can know we have the answer to our prayer before we see anything change in the natural order (1 John 5:14,15). Jesus said, "Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them." (Mk 11:24). God expects us, even commands us, to believe that our petitions are answered by God AT THE MOMENT WE MAKE THEM. We must believe that the response is immediately sent WHEN we pray. Faith is like the confirmation slip in our hearts that the goods are on the way. We have that confirmation slip instantly from God. We sense it in our hearts. The manifestation of those goods, the answer received, comes later as long as we are patient and do not throw away our confidence. (Hebrews 10:35-39; Hebrews 6:12)
Faith is like a cheque. All you have to do is hold on to the cheque, go to the bank to present it and you can confidently expect the money to appear in your account after a certain time. If you throw the cheque away the money will not be put in your account. God is trustworthy and always has resources to back his promises.
Living faith always has corresponding actions. We talk what we really believe, and we act according to what we really believe. The heroes of faith like Abraham were considered men of faith because they acted on what God showed them. They acted on their faith. (Hebrews 11:17-38, James 2:21-23).
To live in faith means to do and say what you believe is right, without doubting.
Faith is a rest. It is compatible with inner peace. It is not "trying to believe". To say that you are "trying to believe" God is to say that you don't believe Him. The man who is "trying to believe" may be sincere, but he does not have faith in that area yet.
<hr> Why We Must Believe God
Why must we believe God? Hebrews 11:6 says, "But without faith it is impossible to please God, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him."
"Whatever is not of faith is sin" (Romans 14:23) and God hates sin. When we don't believe God, we treat Him like He is a liar. Remember that He is everywhere and sees all things. He is hurt when we act like He doesn't exist, or that He will not do what He promised to do. Only when we have confidence in God and His Word can we please Him.
Lack of faith leads to lack of obedience. God's commands can only really be fulfilled through faith. Without confidence in God's promises a man will never really do what God says. Lack of obedience in God's eyes is rebellion. Such lack of obedience dishonors God and surely deserves to be punished.
"The just shall live by faith" (Romans 1:17). We must live by faith in order to be considered by God "right" and "correct". Otherwise we stand condemned.
Those who don't believe God inevitably believe in something else. Either religious tradition, or their understanding of science, or what the women's magazine says, or what their next door neighbour tells them, the education system, the mass-media or a combination of all these things. God is not impressed. "Professing to be wise, they became fools." (Romans 1:22) In fact, those who don't fully believing God end up believing the devil somewhere along the track. It is very possible to believe what the devil says without even believing that he exists! Satan is speaking through so many philosophies and religions without openly declaring himself. Not too many actually know they are trusting the words of satan and his demons.
God is therefore righteous in expecting us to believe in Him and what He says. Who is better qualified to tell us the truth and help us to find answers for life and eternity?
<hr> Benefits of Faith.
The Bible teaches us that genuine faith is "more precious than gold that perishes" (1 Peter 1:7). Indeed such faith is going to be "tested by fire". You can expect difficulties and persecutions in your life of faith, as well as blessings. Therefore to encourage you to hold onto and develop your faith, we will consider some of the benefits of faith.
1. Faith brings salvation. (Ephesians 2:8,9). Whosever believes in Him has eternal life. (John 3:16), and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. (John 5:24). The just shall live by faith. (Romans 1:17)
2. Faith brings answers to prayer. "And whatever things you ask in prayer, really believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:22). Since God tells us to pray for our daily bread (Matthew 6:11), faith is therefore a key to our material provision.
3. Faith brings all the benefits of salvation into our lives (Ephesians 2:8,9). This includes healing, prosperity, peace, love, joy (1 Peter 1:8), deliverance from demons and the curse, sanctification of the mind and emotions (the salvation of the soul) and any other benefit which the word of God promises to us.
4. Faith is a spiritual force through which our ministry for Christ becomes effective. (Mark 11:23; Matthew 17:19,20). Faith is a major key to ministry success. It brings to you what you need for your ministry, and by imparting it to others through your life and your ministry of God's Word, you enable them to receive the blessings of God's grace mentioned above.
5. In particular, faith is the major key for an effective healing and deliverance ministry. Jesus Christ "the same yesterday, today and forever" lives in the Christian (Hebrews 13:8, Galatians 2:20), and through the Christian wants to reveal the power of salvation to men in a way they can see and feel. In this way, our evangelism concerning the Kingdom of God will not be in talk, but in power (1 Corinthians 4:20).
 
Re: WHAT WAS WALMART THINKING

Lets say for shits and giggles, there is a heaven and a hell. You spend your entire life worshiping your selected religion. Now we all know certain religions do not condon other religions when it comes to viewpoints.
Now you die to find out there is only one pure religion and it happens to be the Rastafari movement. Only the 600,000 people that chose that faith gain entry to heaven because they chose the one and only 'true' religion. The rest of the people are sent to hell because they were non-believers.
Now wouldn't that be a kick in the balls. This could be the case. The only way to find out of course is to be dead. Religion promotes fear in people. I will admit to having faith. But I am also realistic about the possiblities.
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
Re: WHAT WAS WALMART THINKING

Well all religions teach the same message and the only way you can find
about it if you do little research.

There are tons of books and videos on everything. Alot of priests and preachers are converting to Islam and there is a reason for it.


YouTube - Bible or Quran Debate Islam Christian and Muslim



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Lets say for shits and giggles, there is a heaven and a hell. You spend your entire life worshiping your selected religion. Now we all know certain religions do not condon other religions when it comes to viewpoints.
Now you die to find out there is only one pure religion and it happens to be the Rastafari movement. Only the 600,000 people that chose that faith gain entry to heaven because they chose the one and only 'true' religion. The rest of the people are sent to hell because they were non-believers.
Now wouldn't that be a kick in the balls. This could be the case. The only way to find out of course is to be dead. Religion promotes fear in people. I will admit to having faith. But I am also realistic about the possiblities.
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: WHAT WAS WALMART THINKING

There are tons of books and videos on everything. Alot of priests and preachers are converting to Islam and there is a reason for it.

REALLY JAY??? DO YOU THINK THEY WANT TO LEARN TO FLY PLANES INTO BUILDINGS???? I GUESS THE ALTITUDE BRINGS THEM CLOSER TO GOD......
 
Re: WHAT WAS WALMART THINKING

Alot of priests and preachers are converting to Islam and there is a reason for it.

I was speaking about religion in general. I admit I do not know much about Islam and don't care to. We have all made our choices in life, and now have to live with it.
I doubt the conversion rate is as high as you think it is though. Maybe in the middle east, but doubt much else.
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
Re: WHAT WAS WALMART THINKING

I was speaking about religion in general. I admit I do not know much about Islam and don't care to. We have all made our choices in life, and now have to live with it.
I doubt the conversion rate is as high as you think it is though. Maybe in the middle east, but doubt much else.


Do you really think that man. Islam is the fastest religion in America and Europe.
 

jay28

EOG Dedicated
Re: WHAT WAS WALMART THINKING

There are 400,000 Muslims in Texas alone and Islam is the fastest growing religion in the USA. Since 9/11 there have been more converts to Islam than ever.

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