First time flying

CHALKBETTOR

EOG Senior Member
I have got a real nice deal to go to Vegas from Chicago. I've never flown before however to get to Vegas from Chicago you have to fly through Denver. My wife and I are leaving Wed and the weather report says heavy snow in Denver. Anything to worry about flying in snow?

Thoughts?
 

andrew748

Banned
Re: First time flying

:LMAO how long have you got :D








seriously though

modern plan unlikely to crash as they all have heated wings these days.

if by some 1,000,000,000,000,000, to one chance your plan crashes leave the fuselage before the impact more people have survived plane disasters over snow than any other part of the globe :D

oh and take some chewing gum or boiled sweets :thumbsup

save journey :)
 

CHALKBETTOR

EOG Senior Member
Re: First time flying

:LMAO how long have you got :D








seriously though

modern plan unlikely to crash as they all have heated wings these days.

if by some 1,000,000,000,000,000, to one chance your plan crashes leave the fuselage before the impact more people have survived plane disasters over snow than any other part of the globe :D

oh and take some chewing gum or boiled sweets :thumbsup

save journey :)


Thanx, just a little scared of flying. Don't know what 2 expect
 

andrew748

Banned
Re: First time flying

Flying for the first time can be an intimidating experience, especially if you do not know what to expect. The idea of taking a trip at such high speeds in the air can leave you feeling somewhat apprehensive, but rest assured that airlines take extreme measures to ensure safety, and that the passengers' well-being is their primary concern.


Your flight information should be clearly outlined on your ticket, which you will pick up before you board. Make sure you arrive at the airport about an hour ahead of time so that you have ample time to check in luggage, get your tickets, and get to the proper gate for boarding. Planes begin boarding usually between fifteen and thirty minutes before take off. Always be sure to double check your ticket to be safe before boarding.
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If you have a tendency towards motion sickness, there is medication such as Dramamine to help this condition, but should be taken before the flight. Just follow the directions properly so that the medication, if needed, will be effective. Sinus medications may also be needed as the air pressure can be difficult to adjust to when going from lower to higher altitudes and vice versa. Relieve any pressure in your ears by moving your jaw open and closed or by holding your nose closed and gently blowing. This will help equalize the pressure and make it less painful. This will be more pronounced your first time flying, but gradually becomes more tolerable. Some people, especially children, even chew gum to help with this, and bottles or pacifiers help babies and toddlers equalize pressure.

Be prepared for enclosed spaces on board. This is very difficult at first for people with the tendency to become claustrophobic, but can be dealt with by a focus on relaxation and taking slow, deep breaths. First class or business class provides more space but is more expensive, and is still going to feel somewhat enclosed. Depending on your preference, you can request a window seat or aisle seat, and sometimes your position in the plane tends to help lessen feelings of claustrophobia, such as being in the front as opposed to the back of the aircraft.

Airline attendants are on board to make your flying experience a positive one. Listen and be alert to any instructions from the attendants or the pilot himself. Pay attention to pertinent information. You'll see the attendants when you board the plane and they will be serving you drinks, snacks and/or meals during your flight, and are there to offer assistance if needed. They will show you safety flight instructions, so pay close attention, and don't be afraid to press the call button if you need assistance, such as a blanket or pillow. Take every opportunity to make yourself comfortable so that you can relax and enjoy the flight.

You may find yourself seated next to strangers. This is uncomfortable at first as it will feel as if your personal space has been violated in such close quarters, but they are probably just as uncomfortable as you, and will either attempt to make conversation or remain quiet. You can signal your willingness to talk or need for quiet through simple body language. Most people will take the cue.

The cabin can get cold sometimes, so it is a good idea to dress fairly warmly, and utilize the blankets offered. The seats are fairly comfortable and can be reclined back once in the air. The lavatories are usually small and cramped, but adequate, and most often located at various points on the plane, usually the front and back. Whether flying by night or day, there is always ample light for reading, but you can shut the reading light off if desired. There is also extra oxygen if needed, and this helps during takeoff and landing, but the valve can be turned off while in the air. There are also meal trays that can be put away when not in use, usually located on the back of the seat in front on you.

Some flights, usually the overseas flights, show in-flight movies. This can help you relax and make the time pass by faster. Reading material is also a good way to spend the time while flying. Some people even bring their laptops along. Bring what makes you feel comfortable, but do not overpack your carry on luggage. Most often, you will be restricted to two bags for carry on luggage, and it isn't fair to take up extra space that someone else may need. Bring any necessary medications, perhaps a change of clothes for long flights, reading material, the necessary items if traveling with children, and snacks. Pack sparingly choosing only the necessary items for carry on and it will make the trip much easier. Your goal is to fly comfortably, and excess baggage can become a burden.

Not every flying experience will be optimal. Problems do arise, such as having the back of your seat kicked. You can choose to ask the flight attendant to bring the problem to the source's attention, or if the flight is not full, request a move to another seat. For the most part, problems are minimal, but try and deal with them effectively if they arise. This will make your flying experience easier. Also, be mindful of passenger etiquette. Don't act in any manner that you would be annoyed with. Make your flying experience as stress-free as possible, and you will be more likely to have a positive flight.


curtesy of google

flyings boring but safe nothing to be worried about, take your walkman and a good book :)
 

Bettor days

EOG Dedicated
Re: First time flying

Whatever you do don't try getting into the Mile high club... they will call you a terrorist and arrest you for having 2 people in the bathroom. Damn Shame IMO.
 

andrew748

Banned
Re: First time flying

German plans airline for smokers

<!-- S BO --> <!-- S IIMA --> <table align="right" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="203"> <tbody><tr><td> Smintair sees frustrated smokers as a business opportunity

</td></tr> </tbody></table> <!-- E IIMA --> <!-- S SF --> A German entrepreneur plans to launch the world's first smokers' airline next year, promising a return to the times before planes became smoke-free zones.
Alexander Schoppmann, a former stockbroker, is seeking the start-up cash for Smintair - Smoker's International Airways.
On its website Smintair promises to "bring back the exclusivity in flying encountered in the 1960s".
The plan is to fly two leased Boeing 747s on the Duesseldorf-Tokyo route.

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | German plans airline for smokers

i want fly with this guy's airline :D :smokesmal :cheers
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: First time flying

ONce you get off the ground it is just like being in a car unless you have Tstorms or High winds and that causes bad turbulance...but it kinda feels like a rollercoaster.... Flying is cool and carry your laptop on and watch a flick or watch the one on board or take a walkman....

Or you can do Like I do...drink from takeoff til landing
 
Re: First time flying

My advice on flyin= Dont get much rest or sleep the night before..Try to be tired when you get on the plane..Love it when I go to sleep on plane..Wake up and I am there..-Jojo
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: First time flying

MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE BRISTLES ON THE BROOM.......WEAR A HEAVY COAT WHEN FLYING THROUGH SNOW AND HOLD ON TO THE HANDLE REAL TIGHT.........
 

andrew748

Banned
Re: First time flying

a golden opportunity to share one of my favourite bits of writing :)


<left> </left><table border="0" width="80%"> <tbody> <tr> <td align="right" valign="center" width="30%"> </td> <td align="left" valign="center" width="70%"> Free Fall

<big>The Free Fall Research Page</big> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
<big> Unplanned Freefall? Some Survival Tips</big> <table border="0" width="60%"><tbody><tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%"> By David Carkeet </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%"> Admit it: You want to be the sole survivor of an airline disaster. You aren't looking for a disaster to happen, but if it does, you see yourself coming through it. I'm here to tell you that you're not out of touch with reality—you can do it. Sure, you'll take a few hits, and I'm not saying there won't be some sweaty flashbacks later on, but you'll make it. You'll sit up in your hospital bed and meet the press. Refreshingly, you will keep God out of your public comments, knowing that it's unfair to sing His praises when all of your dead fellow-passengers have no platform from which to offer an alternative view. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%"> Let's say your jet blows apart at 35,000 feet. You exit the aircraft, and you begin to descend independently. Now what? </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">First of all, you're starting off a full mile higher than Everest, so after a few gulps of disappointing air you're going to black out. This is not a bad thing. If you have ever tried to keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, you know what I mean. This brief respite from the ambient fear and chaos will come to an end when you wake up at about 15,000 feet. Here begins the final phase of your descent, which will last about a minute. It is a time of planning and preparation. Look around you. What equipment is available? None? Are you sure? Look carefully. Perhaps a shipment of folded parachutes was in the cargo hold, and the blast opened the box and scattered them. One of these just might be within reach. Grab it, put it on, and hit the silk. You're sitting pretty. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">Other items can be helpful as well. Let nature be your guide. See how yon maple seed gently wafts to earth on gossamer wings. Look around for a proportionate personal vehicle—some large, flat, aerodynamically suitable piece of wreckage. Mount it and ride, cowboy! Remember: molecules are your friends. You want a bunch of surface-area molecules hitting a bunch of atmospheric molecules in order to reduce your rate of acceleration. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">As you fall, you're going to realize that your previous visualization of this experience has been off the mark. You have seen yourself as a loose, free body, and you've imagined yourself in the belly-down, limbs-out position (good: you remembered the molecules). But, pray tell, who unstrapped your seat belt? You could very well be riding your seat (or it could be riding you; if so, straighten up and fly right!); you might still be connected to an entire row of seats or to a row and some of the attached cabin structure. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">If thus connected, you have some questions to address. Is your new conveyance air-worthy? If your entire row is intact and the seats are occupied, is the passenger next to you now going to feel free to break the code of silence your body language enjoined upon him at takeoff? If you choose to go it alone, simply unclasp your seat belt and drift free. Resist the common impulse to use the wreckage fragment as a "jumping-off point" to reduce your plunge-rate, not because you will thereby worsen the chances of those you leave behind (who are they kidding? they're goners!), but just because the effect of your puny jump is so small compared with the alarming Newtonian forces at work. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">Just how fast are you going? Imagine standing atop a train going 120 mph, and the train goes through a tunnel but you do not. You hit the wall above the opening at 120 mph. That's how fast you will be going at the end of your fall. Yes, it's discouraging, but proper planning requires that you know the facts. You're used to seeing things fall more slowly. You're used to a jump from a swing or a jungle gym, or a fall from a three-story building on TV action news. Those folks are not going 120 mph. They will not bounce. You will bounce. Your body will be found some distance away from the dent you make in the soil (or crack in the concrete). Make no mistake: you will be motoring. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">At this point you will think: trees. It's a reasonable thought. The concept of "breaking the fall" is powerful, as is the hopeful message implicit in the nursery song "Rock-a-bye, Baby," which one must assume from the affect of the average singer tells the story not of a baby's death but of its survival. You will want a tall tree with an excurrent growth pattern—a single, undivided trunk with lateral branches, delicate on top and thicker as you cascade downward. A conifer is best. The redwood is attractive for the way it rises to shorten your fall, but a word of caution here: the redwood's lowest branches grow dangerously high from the ground; having gone 35,000 feet, you don't want the last 50 feet to ruin everything. The perfectly tiered Norfolk Island pine is a natural safety net, so if you're near New Zealand, you're in luck, pilgrim. When crunch time comes, elongate your body and hit the tree limbs at a perfectly flat angle as close to the trunk as possible. Think! </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">Snow is good—soft, deep, drifted snow. Snow is lovely. Remember that you are the pilot and your body is the aircraft. By tilting forward and putting your hands at your side, you can modify your pitch and make progress not just vertically but horizontally as well. As you go down 15,000 feet, you can also go sideways two-thirds of that distance—that's two miles! Choose your landing zone. You be the boss. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">If your search discloses no trees or snow, the parachutist's "five-point landing" is useful to remember even in the absence of a parachute. Meet the ground with your feet together, and fall sideways in such a way that five parts of your body successively absorb the shock, equally and in this order: feet, calf, thigh, buttock, and shoulder. 120 divided by 5 = 24. Not bad! 24 mph is only a bit faster than the speed at which experienced parachutists land. There will be some bruising and breakage but no loss of consciousness to delay your press conference. Just be sure to apportion the 120-mph blow in equal fifths. Concentrate! </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">Much will depend on your attitude. Don't let negative thinking ruin your descent. If you find yourself dwelling morbidly on your discouraging starting point of seven miles up, think of this: Thirty feet is the cutoff for fatality in a fall. That is, most who fall from thirty feet or higher die. Thirty feet! It's nothing! Pity the poor sod who falls from such a "height." What kind of planning time does he have? </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">Think of the pluses in your situation. For example, although you fall faster and faster for the first fifteen seconds or so, you soon reach "terminal velocity"—the point at which atmospheric drag resists gravity's acceleration in a perfect standoff. Not only do you stop speeding up, but because the air is thickening as you fall, you actually begin to slow down. With every foot that you drop, you are going slower and slower. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">There's more. When parachutists focus on a landing zone, sometimes they become so fascinated with it that they forget to pull the ripcord. Since you probably have no ripcord, "target fixation" poses no danger. Count your blessings. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">Think of others who have gone before you. Think of Vesna Vulovic, a flight attendant who in 1972 fell 33,000 feet in the tail of an exploded DC-9 jetliner; she landed in snow and lived. Vesna knew about molecules. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">Think of Joe Hermann of the Royal Australian Air Force, blown out of his bomber in 1944 without a parachute. He found himself falling through the night sky amid airplane debris and wildly grabbed a piece of it. It turned out to be not debris at all, but rather a fellow flyer in the process of pulling his ripcord. Joe hung on and, as a courtesy, hit the ground first, breaking the fall of his savior and a mere two ribs of his own. Joe was not a quitter. Don't you be. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">Think of Nick Alkemade, an RAF tailgunner who jumped from his flaming turret without a parachute and fell 18,000 feet. When he came to and saw stars overhead, he lit a cigarette. He would later describe the fall as "a pleasant experience." Nick's trick: fir trees, underbrush, and snow. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">But in one important regard, Nick is a disappointment. He gave up. As he plummeted to Germany, he concluded he was going to die and felt "a strange peace." This is exactly the wrong kind of thinking. It will get you nowhere but dead fast. You cannot give up and plan aggressively at the same time. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%"> To conclude, here are some words that might help you avoid such a collapse of resolve on your way down. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%">
  • "Keep a-goin'." (Frank L. Stanton)
  • "Failure is not an option." (Ed Harris, as the guy in Apollo 13 who says, "Failure is not an option")
  • "'Hope' is the thing with feathers
    That perches in the soul
    And sings the tune without the words
    And never stops-at all." (Emily Dickinson)
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</td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%"> Note: A different version of Unplanned Freefall was originally published in Modern Humorist. </td></tr> <tr><td align="left" valign="center" width="80%"> Interested in more information on David Carkeet? Try this link.</td></tr></tbody></table>

CHALKBETTOR how long is the flight?
 
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