Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

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Did the Clinton Administration Engage in ?Domestic Spying? Against Princess Diana?
What the new revelations could mean.

By Byron York

The first thing to remember in trying to evaluate reports that U.S. intelligence services wiretapped Princess Diana is that British press accounts can be notoriously unreliable. We?ll know more about the story on Thursday morning, when results of the Lord Stevens inquiry into Diana?s death are released to the public. But if the reports out now are accurate, the Diana case could raise questions for veterans of the Clinton administration similar to those facing the Bush administration today.

Some versions of the story say simply that the U.S., without consulting British intelligence, was monitoring Diana?s phone conversations in Paris on the night she died, in August 1997. If American intelligence did that, and if the conversations tapped were between Diana, who was a foreign national, and some other person who was also a foreign national, then the action, although perhaps needlessly antagonistic to the British, would not raise questions of whether the administration sought a warrant under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA.

But the Evening Standard reports that American intelligence agencies ?were bugging Princess Diana?s telephone over her relationship with a U.S. billionaire? ? identified as American businessman Theodore Forstmann. That report suggests the surveillance took place over a period of some time. If that is accurate, then the story could be quite different.

Forstmann is what is known in the intelligence/legal world as a ?U.S. person.? If there were a conversation between him, in the United States, and Diana, outside the United States, it would resemble, at least in structure, the conversations between people in the United States and those in foreign countries that have been at the center of the controversy over what President Bush calls the terrorist-surveillance program and what Democrats call ?domestic spying.? (The difference, of course, would be that the Bush administration says it has listened to conversations involving people with known connections to a foreign enemy, al Qaeda; neither Diana nor Forstmann, a public-minded financier who was quite active in Republican politics, appears to fit a comparable description.)

If the Clinton administration did engage in surveillance of Diana/Forstmann, it is not clear if it was done with or without a warrant. ?To get a FISA warrant, they would have had to believe that either Forstmann or Diana was an agent of a foreign power,? says one former Justice Department official. That, the official adds, would be an unlikely scenario. ?To get a criminal warrant, they would have had to had a proceeding going on in which they got a judge to give them a warrant? ? another unlikely scenario. ?Or perhaps,? the official concludes, ?the NSA did it.?

The National Security Agency released a statement last night saying, ?NSA did not target Princess Diana?s communications.? A spokesman for the Central Intelligence Agency told the Washington Post that any suggestion the CIA wiretapped Diana was ?rubbish.? Neither statement seems to be a definitive denial.

If the Clinton administration did engage in surveillance of Princess Diana and Theodore Forstmann, without a warrant, it would appear to run contrary to statements made by former administration officials during the Bush warrantless-wiretap controversy. After the existence of the Bush program was made public last December, some high-ranking veterans of the Clinton administration said they had not engaged in similar efforts to by-pass FISA. ?Both before and after the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was amended in 1995, the Clinton-Gore administration complied fully and completely with the terms of the law,? former Vice President Al Gore said.

The amendment to which Gore referred was an action by Congress that included physical break-ins under the FISA law, requiring the executive branch to seek a warrant before carrying out a break-in. Wiretaps were already covered by the law.

When Congress was considering the break-in measure, top Clinton administration officials argued that the president had the ?inherent authority? to order such break-ins ? including break-ins at the homes of U.S. citizens ? on his own, without a warrant. Even after the administration agreed with Congress?s decision to place the authority to pre-approve such searches in the FISA court, President Clinton still maintained that he had sufficient authority to order such searches on his own.

?The Department of Justice believes, and the case law supports, that the president has inherent authority to conduct warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes,? Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick testified before the House Intelligence Committee on July 14, 1994. Later, after Congress took action, Gorelick told Legal Times that, ?Our seeking legislation in no way should suggest that we do not believe we have inherent authority.?

Nevertheless, the law required that the administration seek a warrant if it intended to wiretap a U.S. person?s ? in this case Forstmann?s ? communications. The Clinton administration could have argued, as the Bush administration would later, that the president had the authority to do it on his own under certain circumstances, like the presence of a foreign enemy. But it?s hard to see how Diana and Forstmann would have fit that description, and in any event that is something Al Gore and other Clinton veterans say they never did.

? Byron York, NR?s White House correspondent, is the author of the book The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy: The Untold Story of How Democratic Operatives, Eccentric Billionaires, Liberal Activists, and Assorted Celebrities Tried to Bring Down a President ? and Why They?ll Try Even Harder Next Time.




Byron York on Princess Diana & Clinton Administration on National Review Online
 

ynot

EOG Dedicated
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

Because the Clintons had about as much to do with "spying" as lil "w" does.

These things are on a need to know basis and Presidents are kept too busy too care.

it's good for National Security... LOL

The shadow govt. is much more adept of these things.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

Exactly Ynot...but will the commies like Doc and everyone see it that way....They will for Bill But not for the current Admin
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Dirty must have "George is God" written on his cock .....
 

world traveler

EOG Addicted
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

that because slick willy was spying on some *****, he was useing a little cia help to try and score with her nothing wrong with that. Remember Clinton dems taught us that its ok to break the law as long as its all about the ***** and nothing else.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Clinton vs Bush???


Bush has broken over THREE TIMES AS MANY LAWS as Clinton ...

Clinton did not kill 3000 Americas ...

Clinton did not piss all over the Constitution ...

Clinton did not kill over 600,000 Innocent Iraqis....


BUSH WITH A SMALL MUSTACHE WOULD PASS FOR HITLER ANYTIME
 

frankjohnson

EOG Dedicated
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

Did clinton jerk off while listening in?
 

world traveler

EOG Addicted
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Clinton vs Bush???


Bush has broken over THREE TIMES AS MANY LAWS as Clinton ...

Clinton did not kill 3000 Americas ... yes he did he had osama in his sights but was too busy blowing his load on monicas dress to pull the trigger.

Clinton did not piss all over the Constitution ... yes he did i never slept with that woman mzz Lewinski (sp?)

Clinton did not kill over 600,000 Innocent Iraqis.... neither has bush the fuking assholes blowing up markets in the name of Jihad are the ones who have.


BUSH WITH A SMALL MUSTACHE WOULD PASS FOR HITLER ANYTIME

i agree anyone with a small mustache would probs look like hitler if hes a short while middle aged man.
 

Bettor days

EOG Dedicated
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

The reason Clinton is not getting reamed over this is simple. the President while being in a position of power is not Omnipotent and does not know all that is going on in this crazy world of spies and secrets and deciet and power plays. It's funny how much airplay these loser that are always blaming one man for everything. Clinton gave NK nuclear reactors for them to play nice and they turned around and fucked him in the ass. That's much bigger news than this Diana stuff. IMO But you likely won't hear that from the Lefties.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

Bettor the bottom line is if Clinton was in office now and Bush or any republican we Pres back then, this would be all we hard about for months until a Investigation was launched and someone was the fall guy....Dems do any damn thing they want with ne repurcussions about anything
 

ynot

EOG Dedicated
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

Bettor the bottom line is if Clinton was in office now and Bush or any republican we Pres back then, this would be all we hard about for months until a Investigation was launched and someone was the fall guy....Dems do any damn thing they want with ne repurcussions about anything


You better go get a check-up, Dirty. You been drinkin that homemade stuff again?
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Dirty ... what brand of cocaine do you inhale??

Dems do any damn thing they want with ne repurcussions about anything


:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

Doc give me a list just starting with Clinton on up til now where they have gotten more than a slap on the wrist for anything.... Hell Jefferson just got away with taking $100k Bribe and had 90K hid in a freezer....and got off scott free..
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Dirty ...

Your boy Foley got off (literally)

This band of Repugs is the biggest pack of pondscum created since
Hilters pack
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

This is not about the Repubs...Foley lost his senate seat...what did that Race whore jefferson lose...quit dodging the question Doc...But that is par for the course with you....You just keeo shouting to the rooftops hoping that more sheep like ZZ and YB follow
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
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Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

and your SHEEP is Fury???? thats too good ....

Foley is a childe predator and should be in prison along with Hassert

Wow ... Jefferson?? His actions must make Delay, Abramoff, Cunningham
and Ney damn proud

CLINTON HAS BEEN OUT OF OFFICE FOR NEARLY 6 YRS ... LOT MORE SERIOUS
"INCIDENTS" CAUSED BY BUSCHO THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT CLOSELY ONCE
THE REAL LEADERS TAKE OVER IN JANUARY

ENJOY IT NOW ... ONCE THE SHIT HITS THE FAN WE YOU AND YOUR PACK OF
BUSH LOVERS ARE GONNA LIKE MIGHT DUMB FOR SUPPORTING THIS BULLSHIT
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

again...quit dodging the questions..this is not about what Foley did....what abramoff or any republican did....please show me where any Democrat has been punished for corruption say in the last 10 years.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Hubbard out of Kentucky /// Berry out of DC // Bustamante of Texas //
Cosentino of Illinois // Diggs from Michigan // Eerricchiti from New Jersey
and many others

DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND NEXT TIME YOU WONT APPEAR TO BE SO
CLUELESS
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warrant??

LMAO Doc...you are a true Moron....
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

Re: Why are the Clintons getting off the Hook for Spying in Princess Di with No Warra

I answered your question ..

Good to see your "ghost" Fury is alive and well
 
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