I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

redpimp

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Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

It means that they will redflag a bettor they consider a risk to their profit line.

When they put you in this category, you will get different lines when you log in from the average gambler.

(this is how it has been explained to me)

But it makes no sense unless the bodog has extremely efficient software that will be able to guess what games you will most likely play and put out adjusted lines on those games..

(simply because you cant just give a player a -8.5 on when every one is getting a -7.5....What if the player ends up taking the otherside..(+8.5) you have just given him two free half points...)
 

frankjohnson

EOG Dedicated
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Is this a crock of crap or what? Just like to know cause I bet lots of dogs and don't want to take it in the ass.
 

mofome

Banned
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

its true. some individuals will have different lines than others. They 'profile' you.

:dancefool :dancefool :dancefool
 

redpimp

EOG Enthusiast
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Is this a crock of crap or what? Just like to know cause I bet lots of dogs and don't want to take it in the ass.


I think its mostly a crock!!! Unless you have a really unhealthy addiction for dogs!!! Then the book can can take some risk and issue you bad lines.

I have read some pretty convincing posts about dual lines on some forums where two people confirmed that they were being dealt different lines while logged in at the same time with a book..

No matter the case, there is only so much a book can do to beat you with a phone half point here or there. (Half points affect such a small percentage of your wagers..) I am not saying they are not important, lord knows the other day i had a 6.5 line where the game ended right at 6 giving me a winning night i was dying for.
 
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

They have done this for a long time and I still do not have a Bodog account mainly because of it.
 

hendrixfan

EOG Member
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

During the NCAA Tournament last year my buddy and I had our accounts open and signed in at the same time in separate windows on my computer, and the lines were often a 1 point difference.
 
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Seems to me like the run it like a good bookie would -- got a guy always taking the favorites? shade the line towards the dog everytime he calls.

There's nothing dishonest about it -- if nothing else it creates a book that gives out some rogue lines. If you're "profiled" as an underdog bettor, only bet favorites at Bodog, and you'll likely get a slightly better line than others are getting.

There's a lot of shitty stuff that goes on in the offhsore world, but I think things like this are just running an efficient book -- I'd do them if I booked.
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

But it makes no sense unless the bodog has extremely efficient software that will be able to guess what games you will most likely play and put out adjusted lines on those games..


TODAY'S SOFTWARE CAN PROFILE YOU VERY FAST..........IT'S ALMOST NOT A GUESS........

NOTHING WRONG WITH DOING IT IN MY OPINION.......JUST GET A FRIEND TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT AND TAKE THE BETTER NUMBERS.......USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.......
 

pvcpipe

EOG Master
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

TODAY'S SOFTWARE CAN PROFILE YOU VERY FAST..........IT'S ALMOST NOT A GUESS........

NOTHING WRONG WITH DOING IT IN MY OPINION.......JUST GET A FRIEND TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT AND TAKE THE BETTER NUMBERS.......USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.......


what devil said. dual lines should give you an edge. i don't see anything unethical about a bookmaker dealing them. if you don't like a price you're dealt, hammer them the other way or shop somewhere else.
 
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

They have done this for a long time and I still do not have a Bodog account mainly because of it.


Yeah, don't bother...I got the donkey lines for about 5 whole bets before they shut me off...if you play some into the clone market numbers then you might last longer, but I just picked off the soft numbers & got booted very quickly...they aren't even worth signing up with if you have a clue & a pulse...
 

frankjohnson

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Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

TODAY'S SOFTWARE CAN PROFILE YOU VERY FAST..........IT'S ALMOST NOT A GUESS........

NOTHING WRONG WITH DOING IT IN MY OPINION.......JUST GET A FRIEND TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT AND TAKE THE BETTER NUMBERS.......USE IT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE.......

If there was nothing wrong with it why don't they disclose what they are doing to the public. At the very least it is sneaky. You want to defend this practice, that doesn't surprise me, but I'm not prepared to say its ethical. You know Meyer Lansky the father of the gambling industry in this country insisted, at the threat of great physical injury, that his joints be run honestly and above board. Now the so called watchdogs of the industry, such as eog, throw in with some pretty deceptive shit.
 

Rockfish

EOG Addicted
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

If you can't figure out that dual lines are a good thing then you need to go read some sports betting books to get a clue.
 

Johnny Detroit

EOG Senior Member
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Tons of book do this. Even good ole WWTS (prior Bodog) had dual lines.

Only square shop that does not care is Sports Interaction.
 

frankjohnson

EOG Dedicated
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

If you can't figure out that dual lines are a good thing then you need to go read some sports betting books to get a clue.

You guys are brainwashed lemmings. I know the industry ain't run by the boy scouts but obviously the notion of "honor among theives" is unknown to the posters around here. I suppose you can exploit some angle with "dual lines" but it's a slimy practice probably appropriate for how the gambling industry has evolved or devolved depending on your point of view.
 
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

I would say 8 outta 10 Bokks do this. Its more Common than u think
 

pvcpipe

EOG Master
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

brainwashed lemmings?

look, if i'm a bookmaker, and I know I can shade the line on favorites to some square who will bitch and moan about it, then lay the extra point anyway, i'm damn sure going to do it.
 

Rockfish

EOG Addicted
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

You guys are brainwashed lemmings. I know the industry ain't run by the boy scouts but obviously the notion of "honor among theives" is unknown to the posters around here. I suppose you can exploit some angle with "dual lines" but it's a slimy practice probably appropriate for how the gambling industry has evolved or devolved depending on your point of view.

With every post you make about dual lines makes you more ignorant of the subject. Stop Please.
 

frankjohnson

EOG Dedicated
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

brainwashed lemmings?

look, if i'm a bookmaker, and I know I can shade the line on favorites to some square who will bitch and moan about it, then lay the extra point anyway, i'm damn sure going to do it.

"Some square" you write. Wow! You must be some bad ass dude.
 

frankjohnson

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Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Re: I just read a post at cappersmall.com in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

If there was nothing wrong with it why don't they disclose what they are doing to the public. At the very least it is sneaky. You want to defend this practice, that doesn't surprise me, but I'm not prepared to say its ethical. You know Meyer Lansky the father of the gambling industry in this country insisted, at the threat of great physical injury, that his joints be run honestly and above board. Now the so called watchdogs of the industry, such as eog, throw in with some pretty deceptive shit.

My last post on this subject which merely began as an inquiry and resulted in a shit storm is a repeat of what I posted earlier. Re read at your convenience.
 

Fletcher

EOG Addicted
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Dual lines at Bodog? Next thing you will tell me that there is gambling at Rick's!
 

frankjohnson

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Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Dual lines at Bodog? Next thing you will tell me that there is gambling at Rick's!

I am actually "shocked, shocked to learn........." about this dual line business. I never knew the practice went on but then a pick pocket doesn't announce his purpose either. Sleazy stuff, man!
 
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

I am actually "shocked, shocked to learn........." about this dual line business. I never knew the practice went on but then a pick pocket doesn't announce his purpose either. Sleazy stuff, man!

I hear ya,but it is common nowadays , becasue of the sofware.
 

frankjohnson

EOG Dedicated
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

I hear ya,but it is common nowadays , becasue of the sofware.

There's actually someone else here who doesn't find reason to praise this slimeball behavior. Thanks.
 

frankjohnson

EOG Dedicated
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

brainwashed lemmings?

look, if i'm a bookmaker, and I know I can shade the line on favorites to some square who will bitch and moan about it, then lay the extra point anyway, i'm damn sure going to do it.

This is still my favorite post on the subject. I guess we're all privileged to know such a well connected and obviously enormously successful self appointed wise guy as pvcpipe.
 

janus

EOG Dedicated
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Tons of book do this. Even good ole WWTS (prior Bodog) had dual lines.

Only square shop that does not care is Sports Interaction.


its not that SIA doesnt care, its that they employ the dumbest workforce on the planet & hence seem to not care.
 
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

its not that SIA doesnt care, its that they employ the dumbest workforce on the planet & hence seem to not care.

And yet they are making millions. Hows that settle with ya.
 

pvcpipe

EOG Master
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

This is still my favorite post on the subject. I guess we're all privileged to know such a well connected and obviously enormously successful self appointed wise guy as pvcpipe.


I think my favorite post was the one where you called everyone in the thread "brainwashed lemmings." You don't have to be a wiseguy to figure dual lines can give a player an advantage. You don't have to be a sharp to take advantage of a square bettor who doesn't mind laying an extra half point on favorites. You don't have to be a wiseguy, sharp, or even that smart to realize you are a toolshed.
 

MadCapper

Head <in> Moderation
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

Frank,

Any LOCKS tonight?
 

frankjohnson

EOG Dedicated
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

I think my favorite post was the one where you called everyone in the thread "brainwashed lemmings." You don't have to be a wiseguy to figure dual lines can give a player an advantage. You don't have to be a sharp to take advantage of a square bettor who doesn't mind laying an extra half point on favorites. You don't have to be a wiseguy, sharp, or even that smart to realize you are a toolshed.

If I was to email some of the sportsbooks at their info desks and ask if they put out dual lines would they be honest about their business practices? END OF STORY.
 

frankjohnson

EOG Dedicated
Re: I just read a post at cappersmall in which they said bodog puts out dual lines

I think my favorite post was the one where you called everyone in the thread "brainwashed lemmings." You don't have to be a wiseguy to figure dual lines can give a player an advantage. You don't have to be a sharp to take advantage of a square bettor who doesn't mind laying an extra half point on favorites. You don't have to be a wiseguy, sharp, or even that smart to realize you are a toolshed.

A lemming is a follower in this case wannabee wise guys void of thought or ethics.
 
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