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Worrying report on climate change released in Paris

Worrying report on climate change released in Paris

International scientists and officials hailed a report today saying that global warming is "very likely" caused by man, and that hotter temperatures and rises in sea level "would continue for centuries" no matter how much humans control their pollution.
By Seth Borenstein, Associated Press
Last update: February 02, 2007 ? 7:18 AM


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PARIS ? Scientists from 113 countries issued a landmark report today saying they have little doubt global warming is caused by man, and predicting that hotter temperatures and rises in sea level will "continue for centuries'' no matter how much humans control their pollution.

A top U.S. government scientist, Susan Solomon, said "there can be no question that the increase in greenhouse gases are dominated by human activities.''

Environmental campaigners urged the United States and other industrial nations to significantly cut their emissions of greenhouse gases in response to the long-awaited report by Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

"It is critical that we look at this report ... as a moment where the focus of attention will shift from whether climate change is linked to human activity, whether the science is sufficient, to what on earth are we going to do about it,'' said Achim Steiner, the executive director of the U.N. Environment Program.

"The public should not sit back and say 'There's nothing we can do','' Steiner said. "Anyone who would continue to risk inaction on the basis of the evidence presented here will one day in the history books be considered irresponsible.''

The 21-page report represents the most authoritative science on global warming as the panel comprises hundreds of scientists and representatives. It only addresses how and why the planet is warming, not what to do about it. Another report by the panel later this year will address the most effective measures for slowing global warming.

One of the authors, Kevin Trenberth, said scientists are worried that world leaders will take the message in the wrong way and throw up their hands. Instead, world leaders should to reduce emissions and adapt to a warmer world with wilder weather, he said.

"This is just not something you can stop. We're just going to have to live with it,'' said Trenberth, the director of climate analysis for the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo. "We're creating a different planet. If you were to come up back in 100 years time, we'll have a different climate.''

The scientists said global warming was "very likely'' caused by human activity, a phrase that translates to a more than 90 percent certainty that it is caused by man's burning of fossil fuels. That was the strongest conclusion to date, making it nearly impossible to say natural forces are to blame.

It also said no matter how much civilization slows or reduces its greenhouse gas emissions, global warming and sea level rise will continue on for centuries.

"Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising global mean sea level,'' the scientists said.

The report blamed man-made emissions of greenhouse gases for fewer cold days, hotter nights, killer heat waves, floods and heavy rains, devastating droughts, and an increase in hurricane and tropical storm strength ? particularly in the Atlantic Ocean.

Sharon Hays, associate director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy at the White House, welcomed the strong language of the report.

"It's a significant report. It will be valuable to policy makers,'' she told The Associated Press in an interview in Paris.

Hays stopped short of saying whether or how the report could bring about change in President Bush's policy about greenhouse gas emissions.

The panel predicted temperature rises of 2-11.5 degrees Fahrenheit by the year 2100. That was a wider range than in the 2001 report.

However, the panel also said its best estimate was for temperature rises of 3.2-7.1 degrees Fahrenheit. In 2001, all the panel gave was a range of 2.5-10.4 degrees Fahrenheit.

On sea levels, the report projects rises of 7-23 inches by the end of the century. An additional 3.9-7.8 inches are possible if recent, surprising melting of polar ice sheets continues.

The panel, created by the United Nations in 1988, releases its assessments every five or six years ? although scientists have been observing aspects of climate change since as far back as the 1960s. The reports are released in phases ? this is the first of four this year.

"The point here is to highlight what will happen if we don't do something and what will happen if we do something,'' said another author, Jonathan Overpeck at the University of Arizona. "I can tell if you will decide not to do something the impacts will be much larger than if we do something.''

As the report was being released, environmental activists repelled off a Paris bridge and draped a banner over a statue used often as a popular gauge of whether the Seine River is running high.

"Alarm bells are ringing. The world must wake up to the threat posed by climate change,'' said Catherine Pearce of Friends of the Earth.

Stephanie Tunmore of Greenpeace said "if the last IPCC report was a wake up call, this one is a screaming siren.''

"The good news is our understanding of the climate system and our impact on it has improved immensely. The bad news is that the more we know, the more precarious the future looks,'' Tunmore said in a statement. "There's a clear message to governments here, and the window for action is narrowing <TABLE class=nextprevious style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: small; MARGIN: 3px 0px 12px; FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=previouscell></TD><TD class=previouscell></TD><TD width="100%"></TD><TD class=nextcell></TD><TD class=nextcell></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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Climate report's main findings

Climate report's main findings

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Last update: February 02, 2007 ? 7:22 AM


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A brief look at the main findings of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report:

THE CAUSE: Global warming is "very likely'' caused by man, the strongest conclusion to date.

THE OUTLOOK: Now that the world has begun to warm, hotter temperatures and rises in sea level "would continue for centuries'' no matter how much humans control their pollution.

TEMPERATURE CHANGE: The panel predicted temperature rises of 2-11.5 degrees Fahrenheit by the year 2100. That was a wider range than in the 2001 report.

However, the panel also said its best estimate was for temperature rises of 3.2-7.1 degrees Fahrenheit. In 2001, all the panel gave was a range of 2.5-10.4 degrees Fahrenheit.

SEA LEVELS: The report projected rises of 7-23 inches by the end of the century. An additional 3.9-7.8 inches are possible if recent, surprising melting of polar ice sheets continues.

HURRICANES: An increase in hurricane and tropical cyclone strength since 1970 "more likely than not'' can be attributed to man-made global warming. The scientists said global warming's connection varies with storms in different parts of the world, but that the storms that strike the Americas are global warming-influenced.
 

dirty

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Still theories...


Show me a model and a way to know what the weather would be like if man didn't do anything with fossil Fuels.... Please How do you compare it.... You can't.... It is all speculation and conjecture. The only thing you have to compare it with is past weather cycles, Warming Periods, Ice ages, etc.... Unless man had factories Millions of years ago and cars.....


These people are scare Mongers and are doing it to instill fear in People


is the world getting warmer... Yes.. No one has ever denied that.... But the bottom line is they say it is man made, but in the next breath they say it possible can't be reversed....How in the hell can you have it both ways.. if it is man made then it seams to reason that if we stop doing what we are doing then things should go back to what they consider normal don't you think... Can you say Hypocrites to the core
 

gopherbob

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this article presents more scientific data.

Science & Technology at Scientific American.com: Climate Change Science Moves from Proof to Prevention -- Scientists have spent the past six years combing the seas, skies, land and space for data on climate change


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February 01, 2007 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=titleArticle vAlign=top align=left colSpan=2>Climate Change Science Moves from Proof to Prevention </TD></TR><TR><TD class=home colSpan=2>Scientists have spent the past six years combing the seas, skies, land and space for data on climate change </TD></TR><TR><TD class=home colSpan=2>By David Biello </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE class=toolBar cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>E-mail </TD><TD>Print </TD><TD>Link </TD><TD>RSS </TD><TD>del.icio.us </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=home colSpan=2>
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellPadding=0 width=474 border=0 cellpacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD class=home><TABLE cellPadding=0 width=205 align=right border=0><TBODY><TR><TD> </TD><TD class=home align=right> </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD class=imageCredit align=right>Image: ? MOMATIUK-EASTCOTT/CORBIS </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD class=captionText align=left>WHAT A DIFFERENCE six years makes. Since the 2001 IPCC report, glaciers have rapidly retreated and scientists have become more certain that climate change is here to stay. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>PARIS (February 1, 2007) -- Six years is not a long time in science. Data may be collected, a paper or two published or a PhD earned. But in the six years since the last Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Charge (IPCC) report was released, the science and certainty of global warming has grown markedly. "In the first IPCC report in 1990 there were no real observations demonstrating that climate had changed, only a prognosis that it would change," says Herve Le Treut, atmospheric physicist at CNRS (France's National Center for Scientific Research) and a lead author of part of the fourth IPCC report set to be released on Friday. "By 2001, there were many signs that climate is changing and now we are already seeing the patterns described in the first IPCC report." Simple observation confirms the basic science of climate change. "All six years since the last report (2001 to 2006) are among the seven warmest years on record," notes Kevin Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) and another lead author. "Northern Hemisphere snow cover has decreased and Arctic Sea ice has been at record low levels in the past three years."
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February 01, 2007 </TD></TR><TR><TD class=titleArticle vAlign=top align=left colSpan=2>Climate Change Science Moves from Proof to Prevention </TD></TR><TR><TD class=home colSpan=2>Scientists have spent the past six years combing the seas, skies, land and space for data on climate change </TD></TR><TR><TD class=home colSpan=2>By David Biello </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE class=toolBar cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>E-mail </TD><TD>Print </TD><TD>Link </TD><TD>RSS </TD><TD>del.icio.us </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=home colSpan=2>
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</TD></TR><TR><TD class=home>In addition to such ice changes--accelerated melting in Greenland, western Antarctica and from mountain glaciers throughout the world--scientists have improved their understanding of the atmosphere's workings. For example, the tiny particles known as aerosols are far better understood, says atmospheric scientist Piers Forster of the University of Leeds in England andalso a lead author. "We estimate that their total radiative forcing is around -1.3 [watts/meter<SUP>2</SUP>]," which is a cooling effect, he says. "Because of this and a better understanding of how forcing terms add up, we are able to sum the radiative forcings and, for the first time, come up with the statement that we have very high confidence that humans have had a warming influence since preindustrial times." That influence continues via greenhouse gases from burning fossil fuels, and other sources; carbon dioxide levels have jumped 20 percent in just the last 10 years.
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=home>These observational improvements also extend into space, all the way to the sun, where scientists have used satellite data to better understand the amount of solar energy--and its impact here on Earth. "We therefore can make a comparison statement for the first time and say it is likely that solar forcing is at least five times smaller than the combined human influence," Forster continues. "Over the last 50 years, in particular, the natural forcing (solar plus volcanic) is most certainly negative. Meanwhile we've seen this large positive forcing from greenhouse gases."
"There are now three or four satellite temperature time series of the atmosphere, six years ago there was one. This duplication helped uncover some errors," adds lead author Thomas Peterson, a climate analyst with the U.S. National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). "Correction of that error made the time series show more warming and is part of the reason why you no longer hear skeptics say that satellites don't show any warming." In addition, tide gauges, satellite measurements and some 1,250 data-collecting buoys have improved information on oceans, the most important heat sink on Earth. "The oceanographic community now has a system of vertical profiling floats distributed through most of the world oceans that tells us the vertical distributions of temperature and salinity every 10 days to depths of one to two kilometers," says Sydney Levitus, director of NOAA's World Data Center for Oceanography and another lead author. "Sea level observations are telling us that during the past 100 years sea level has risen at an average rate of 1.7 millimeters per year," most of that due to thermal expansion as the top 700 meters of the oceans warms and expands. In fact, a paper in today's Science reveals that the 2001 IPCC report underestimated sea level rise as well as the average surface temperature--land and sea combined--for the globe.
<TABLE cellPadding=0 width=474 border=0 cellpacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD class=home>All of this data--and its conformance with predictions from computer-generated models--provide key evidence of climate change. "The fact that nature is confirming a posteriori the anticipation of models from 15 or 20 years ago is strong proof," Le Treut says. "It is very difficult to say that this is coincidental." "The human signal has clearly emerged from the noise of natural variability," NCAR's Trenberth adds. "Numerous changes in climate have been observed at the scales of continents or ocean basins. These include wind patterns, precipitation, ocean salinity, sea ice, ice sheets and aspects of extreme weather."
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</TD></TR><TR><TD class=home>This means that t</TD></TR><TR><TD class=home>he science of climate change may partially undergo a shift of its own, moving from trying to prove it is a problem (it is now "very likely" that greenhouse gases in the atmosphere have already caused enough warming to trigger stronger droughts, heat waves, more and bigger forest fires and more extreme storms and flooding) to figuring out ways to fix it. "I would like to see a network of phenological data--such as bloom dates of particular plants--that could be tracked in real time worldwide," NOAA's Peterson says. "Temperature is a good parameter to measure. But the effects of the changes in temperature are relevant to measure directly, too."</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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gopherbob

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Stop it Gopher its -10 up here in the Northern Subs.....How ya been buddy?

come on, don't you remember years when the entire month of january was below zero ?
btw, it was only -5 when i took the dogs to the dog park at 7:25am.
 

revengefactor

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Cycles my buddy cycles....We'll get through it and if I remember right I was golfing back in 92 in January a blistering 55 degree.How come you never swing by across the street anymore?

Its Winger if you couldn't tell old buddy!
 

frankjohnson

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Right wing crackpots don't care about global warming. They don't care that Cheney lied.
 

gopherbob

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Cycles my buddy cycles....We'll get through it and if I remember right I was golfing back in 92 in January a blistering 55 degree.How come you never swing by across the street anymore?

Its Winger if you couldn't tell old buddy!

good to see you. it's cycles, but man is accelerating this one. remember january '04 ? the whole month was below zero, one wknd it hit like -40.
think flipper is the next gopher coach ?
i've been going out to canterbury to play cards lately, do they have poker in mille lacs or hinckley ?
 

revengefactor

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good to see you. it's cycles, but man is accelerating this one. remember january '04 ? the whole month was below zero, one wknd it hit like -40.
think flipper is the next gopher coach ?
i've been going out to canterbury to play cards lately, do they have poker in mille lacs or hinckley ?

I don't hit Mill lacs but have been down to Treasure a few times this year etc. Mostly just a casual cash player but have hit a few final tables in hold'em so I can play a little.Tell the truth Ive warmed up to this Coach cause he's pulled that Cal Bears coach away and that Louisville coach,so I'm luke warm with him now.


What's with this Frank Johnson card? Is that Doc?
 

bilbal

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I think YankJohnson could be CockJerker, the names sure do sound similar.

He want us to believe that only the scientists who support his argument are the ones that are right. However, there are scientists whose models indicate that we should be in another ice age and models that say we should have been burnt to a crisp by now. If you set out to prove it is humans causing global warming, your proclivity is to do just that and your results are likely to "prove" just that. The bottom line is, they are all "guessing", "estimating", "deducing". However, there is not one scientist who can say for sure whether or not the models they are using are accurate, not one.

One model that has been accurate is the one that shows what has happened to the earth over the 4.5 BILLION years it's been around. It warms, it cools, over and over, humans or no humans, cars or no cars, greenhouse gasses or not. It warms, it cools.

To say warming has reached the point where humans can't control it is correct though because anyone that thinks that what a few billion people on the planet can do will actually override or supercede what the forces of a solar system can do, is insane.
 

gopherbob

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I don't hit Mill lacs but have been down to Treasure a few times this year etc. Mostly just a casual cash player but have hit a few final tables in hold'em so I can play a little.Tell the truth Ive warmed up to this Coach cause he's pulled that Cal Bears coach away and that Louisville coach,so I'm luke warm with him now.


What's with this Frank Johnson card? Is that Doc?

i'm still not sure about the new coach, think i'll wait 'til national signing day (or whatever they call it) to see. i wonder if he can sign his own kids.
 

Purple_Rage

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Doesn't snow as much as it did 20-30 years ago that's for sure. The warmth must be drying up the atmospheric moisture or something. Sure hate to be in the snow cat selling business these days.

It's too bad NDSU's coach didn't become a Gopher. Could have used some of the lineman from the farms up there in Nort Dakota.
 

dirty

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I think YankJohnson could be CockJerker, the names sure do sound similar.

He want us to believe that only the scientists who support his argument are the ones that are right. However, there are scientists whose models indicate that we should be in another ice age and models that say we should have been burnt to a crisp by now. If you set out to prove it is humans causing global warming, your proclivity is to do just that and your results are likely to "prove" just that. The bottom line is, they are all "guessing", "estimating", "deducing". However, there is not one scientist who can say for sure whether or not the models they are using are accurate, not one.

One model that has been accurate is the one that shows what has happened to the earth over the 4.5 BILLION years it's been around. It warms, it cools, over and over, humans or no humans, cars or no cars, greenhouse gasses or not. It warms, it cools.

To say warming has reached the point where humans can't control it is correct though because anyone that thinks that what a few billion people on the planet can do will actually override or supercede what the forces of a solar system can do, is insane.



Very sharp and to the point Post
 
Re: global warming very likely caused by man

I'm not saying that the global warming scientists are right or wrong, but on NBC tonight they lead off the report with the old "the debate is over" and "all scientists agree" lines. The debate is not over, it is still going on. Hell, they've been telling us the debate is over ever since the very first reports of global warming!

Is the planet warming? Yes. Are humans contributing to this warming? Yes. How much? That's the real question.
 
Re: global warming very likely caused by man

Dont leave this problem to are future generations, Global warming is a problem that needs to be address by all countries glad to see Australia taking it serious.
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Australia Temperatures to Soar in 65 years

by: Associated Press 31 January 2007
SYDNEY, Australia -- Average temperatures in Sydney will rise by about 9 degrees during the next 65 years, with devastating consequences including 1,300 more heat-related deaths per year, according to a government study released Wednesday.

New South Wales Premier Morris Iemma called the report "frightening reading" and said the federal government "can no longer put its head in the sand on this issue."

Iemma is a member of the Labor Party, which is hoping to oust Howard's conservative coalition in elections later this year.

The Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization, Australia's main scientific group, said average annual temperatures in Sydney will rise from the current 78.8 to around 88 by 2070.

If current climate trends continue, summer temperatures in Sydney's landlocked suburbs -- which often top 95 degrees -- could rise by as much as 13 degrees, the CSIRO said.

It predicted heat-related deaths of people over 65 will increase to 1,312 by 2050 from the current average of 176 per year. By 2070 Sydney could be in drought for nine out of every 10 years instead of the current average of three, the report said.

"Such trends would also increase evaporation, heat waves, extreme winds and fire risk," the report said.

The CSIRO said hotter temperatures would have significant effects on the ecosystem around Sydney, threatening some already endangered plant species and the animals that feed on them. Rising sea levels could also destroy the natural habitats of many species.

As a major exporter and consumer of carbon dioxide-emitting fossil fuels, Australia rates as one of the world's worst greenhouse gas producers per capita.

Howard says the Kyoto Protocol's steep cuts in carbon dioxide emissions would hurt Australia's economy by handing a competitive advantage to China and India, which are not bound by the treaty.

Australian power companies issued a report Wednesday that said expanding the use of nuclear power and retrofitting coal-fired power stations to capture carbon dioxide is the best way to slow greenhouse emissions. Howard said he agreed with that recommendation.

"The answer is a greater emphasis on clean coal and nuclear power," Howard told reporters. "It's just simply not feasible to run power stations in this country on solar and wind energy."
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: global warming very likely caused by man

Wrigley...can you let me borrow that Crystal Ball that you and them scientists have that can tell us what is going to happen 65 years from now... I need a lock for the Super Bowl on Sunday...Surely one of these "Experts" can peer into the ole Crystal Ball and give us a winner....
 
Re: global warming very likely caused by man

Wrigley...can you let me borrow that Crystal Ball that you and them scientists have that can tell us what is going to happen 65 years from now... I need a lock for the Super Bowl on Sunday...Surely one of these "Experts" can peer into the ole Crystal Ball and give us a winner....

Your probably right Dirty im sure you would of been with the group that thought the world was flat when others tried to tell them it was round.

The rounds ended up winning then and could of been consider scientists
for that era.

Best of Luck with your SB bet Dirty
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: global warming very likely caused by man

Typical response from a sheep that believes the same scientists who claimed global cooling 30 years...
 
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