BETMANIA SLOWPAY OR NOPAY From 2007

trying2b_normal

EOG Member
Hello TOW Members.

Mania has been jerking me around on a Neteller payout since Jan 30. (I am a non-US member and they still claim to be paying customers this way.)

Basically, it's been lie after lie after lie with these people. The typical stiff job excuses of why they can't pay.

"Manager isn't in"
"You have to wait 10 days between payouts"

It's bullshit and I'm sick of it. They haven't offered any other method to pay me with either.

I will post some of the chat transcripts:


Jan 30

bmania3: Welcome to Betmania, how may I help you ?
you: hi, I requested a neteller payout last week
you: still havent got it yet
you: MXXXXX
bmania3: the payout was sent on the 26th
bmania3: did you request one after?
you: yes
bmania3: it's one payout per week
you: when did that change ?
bmania3: in order to get another one this week, you have to put in the request
bmania3: It's been like this since a couple of months ago
bmania3: only $2500 per week
you: thats not true
you: It used to be $5000 per week
bmania3: With the neteller restrictions, it's $2500
bmania3: if you want another payout, please put in the reuest
bmania3: **request
you: it hasnt been $2500 per week since a couple of months ago like you say
you: I got a payout on Jan 15 and one on Jan 16
bmania3: if you want another payout put in the request
you: I did



Feb 1

bmania1: Welcome to Betmania, how may I help you ?
you: hi I asked for a Neteller payout a few days ago and I havent got it yet
you: MXXXXX
you: can you tell me what the problem is ?
bmania1: let me check that out for you
bmania1: just a minute please
bmania1: Make a request on Monday for $2500
you: but I already made a request this monday
bmania1: ok so contact us on Monday to see the status of your payout
you: why does it take so long to make a payout?
you: all the other payouts I had took only 1 day ?
bmania1: thing is, well you prob heard about Neteller issue
bmania1: already
bmania1: so it's just gonna take a little bit more time
bmania1: then usual
bmania1: on Monday we should know exactly when the transfer will be made
you: ok then


Feb 5

bmania1: Welcome to Betmania, how may I help you ?
you: hi, I asked for a Neteller payout last week and I havent got it yet
you: MXXXXX
Chat InformationPlease wait while I transfer the chat to 'bmania4'.
Chat InformationYou are now chatting with 'bmania2'
bmania2: Sorry for the delay, one sec I am checking
you: ok
bmania2: Your payout should be going out by This Friday or Monday at the latest, what I would advise you is to get back in touch with us on Thursday to confirm exact date
you: that is what you told me last week........to check back with you today for my payout
you: I need my payout today
bmania2: one sec
bmania2: Because of the neteller and citadel situation there is a 2 week wait between payouts, for now. You received a payout on the 01/26/07, so your next payout is going out on either Friday or Monday
you: that is unnacceptable, I was told I would be paid by today
you: I have waited over 10 days
bmania2: let me se what I can do
you: I cant deal with rules being created out of nowhere
you: thank you
bmania2: I just spoke to the GM and he is telling me for you to contact me, tomorrow, to see if we can get you a payout by tomorrow. That would be the earliest.
bmania2: My name is Fred, Ext6118
you: tommorow is the longest I will wait before going to the fourms
you: RX, EOG, TOW, SBR
bmania2: appreciate that, just give me a call
bmania2: posting is your call
you: will do
bmania2: ok, thanks


Feb 12

bmania1: Welcome to Betmania, how may I help you ?
you: hi, I requested a neteller payout today
you: can you tell me how long until I get paid
you: MXXXXX
bmania1: account number and password please
you: XXXXXXXXX
bmania1: one second please
bmania1: how much did you request?
you: $2500
bmania1: the max we can send is $2500,is taken around 10 days to be process
you: good, then since I asked for my original payout over 10 days ago, I should get it today then, correct ?
bmania1: I have to check
bmania1: sir I have to check to the manager about it
bmania1: if you want you can call tomorrow afternoon
you: no
you: Ive been dicked around for the past 2 weeks
bmania1: or later today
you: I was told I would be able to get a payout today since it was 10 days or whatever
you: I need the payout today
bmania1: I can't promise you anything but I'm going to talk to the person in charge
you: what is the problem with your book, why cant you pay me ?
you: why is this so hard ?
bmania1: we are trying to pay everybody





As you can see from reading these chats, they are screwing me around. I have over 10 dimes there and I'm worried this book will be a stiff job.
 

dirty

EOG Master
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Welcome to EOG....


And No One had been paid from Neteller since around Jan 20... The funds are frozen
 

Hal01

EOG Veteran
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Mania has been jerking me around on a Neteller payout since Jan 30. (I am a non-US member and they still claim to be paying customers this way.)

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Dirty, You may want to read more than the 1st sentance. Just a thought.:+clueless
 

dirty

EOG Master
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I did read it....just Misread it. Thought it said US resident :doh1
 
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This is a major concern if true.

Many sports books are able to process Neteller payments NOW to NON US citizens within one hour and some do it within minutes!!!!

THE SHRINK
 

The Devil

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I JUST HATE WHEN A GUY COMES IN WITH A FIRST POST AND IT'S A BITCH OF SOME KIND........

BUT IF FALSE HE TOOK A LOT OF TIME MAKING UP THOSE CHATS...........
 
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BetMania is affiliated with Skybook, no?
 

sean1

EOG Dedicated
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It is never a good sign when books cap payouts.

That's my opinion... The day Betmania capped payouts at $2500 about 3 months ago, I cashed out 5 or 6 days in a row.

You can not allow $5000 bets online and only $2500/week payouts.

Sean
 
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Skybook and Betmania do have an affiliation and they do know who to contact me if this post isn't true...

I have not heard from them yet...

THE SHRINK
 
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what is an affiliation? one person has a piece of both shops or something?

My impression has been that Sky has made it clear that they aren't backing Mania & Mania is run separately & independently...
 

trying2b_normal

EOG Member
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Devil, my problems are not false. I have 10 dimes stuck with this place and I need these funds. I'm tired of the runaround they have given me. It's time to stop.
 

The Devil

EOG Master
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I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE LYING TRYING, I WAS IMPLYING THAT EOG IS SORT OF A COMMUNITY AND THEY WILL HELP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO GET YOUR FUNDS..........

I JUST AM CURIOUS AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE COME TO THESE SITES WHEN THEY HAVE A PROBLEM.........NEVER SEE THEM BEFORE OR AFTER...........
 

Hal01

EOG Veteran
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I JUST AM CURIOUS AS TO HOW MANY PEOPLE COME TO THESE SITES WHEN THEY HAVE A PROBLEM.........NEVER SEE THEM BEFORE OR AFTER...........

If the data at the bottom of the page is accurate, it appears that the bulk of the viewers are Guests and not Members.

Currently Active Users: 1949 (179 members and 1770 guests)

This was 6:45am CST
 
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Devil, my problems are not false. I have 10 dimes stuck with this place and I need these funds. I'm tired of the runaround they have given me. It's time to stop.

Shoot me an email today and I will try and help out....

Meanwhile, I would strongly recommend being extremely cautious with this sports book, and in fact, if I had an account with them, I'd rather be at the FRONT of the LINE asking for payouts...

Ken
 
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Mania is a great book... if you don't mind a little risk to your funds !

I don't play there...


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but I heard this guy used to bet with them:

 
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I was asked to pass this along from BetMania so I will...

Mike Mitchell said, " Since the Netteller fiasco payouts to US residents have had to be made through another method, namely WU or MG. And a great deal of funds are tied up in 6 month reserve with Netteller, which gets freed up on a daily basis,and have to be moved to accomodate WU payouts for US residents, and are limited to 5 per day which has also caused a backup. Secondly, BM is seeking out a new company to issue checks for them as their previous agent closed down after the Netteller meltdown. Hopefully a new check processor will be in place by March 1st to free up the back log as well. Payouts are moving out on a daily basis and we ask for your patience. Whoveer is making this claim please contact Mike on Tuesday after 12 noon and he will see if your payout can be expedited."
 

The General

Another Day, Another Dollar
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The book(s), etc ALL need to point these things out on their sign-up pages before clients get involved under the current climate. That is if you know ahead of time there is no way we can send Jo Keing his high amount of money back when he asks for it.
 
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I was asked to pass this along from BetMania so I will...

Mike Mitchell said, " Since the Netteller fiasco payouts to US residents have had to be made through another method, namely WU or MG. And a great deal of funds are tied up in 6 month reserve with Netteller, which gets freed up on a daily basis,and have to be moved to accomodate WU payouts for US residents, and are limited to 5 per day which has also caused a backup. Secondly, BM is seeking out a new company to issue checks for them as their previous agent closed down after the Netteller meltdown. Hopefully a new check processor will be in place by March 1st to free up the back log as well. Payouts are moving out on a daily basis and we ask for your patience. Whoveer is making this claim please contact Mike on Tuesday after 12 noon and he will see if your payout can be expedited."

The part about a new ACH in place soon conforms with what my friend (lawyer for one of the more respected offshores; not BM) has told me to expect.
 

ShavenCoinpurse

EOG Dedicated
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Good point general... I asked BODOG prior to funding if they were having payout issues and they straight up lied to me. I requested a payout the following week (before the superbowl) and it took me 15 days to receive my check. If they had just said they had a backlog I would have funded elsewhere, no problem... If books are honest upfront, players wouldn't complain... No all books are having payout issues.
 

trying2b_normal

EOG Member
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Mania told a representative from TOW that they will pay me by thursday. We shall see if this is true or not....thanks for your support people and I will keep you updated on what goes on.
 

IHaveBeenAround

EOG Addicted
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Hope this gets resolved but I don't understand what Neteller's issues with US customers has to do with paying a non-US customer. Good luck.
 

trying2b_normal

EOG Member
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I received my Neteller payment today from Mania, but they also told me that they won't be able to pay me another one for 15 more days!

I'm happy I got paid today, of course, but 2 Neteller payouts a month is garbage. ($2500 max per payout).

I'd like to thank Will Bridges from TOW for helping me out in this case.
 
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Glad you got paid buddy...:cheers

But there are BETTER sports books out there who won't resort to this tactic, so I'd advise you to shop around more carefully the next time...

If we can be of any further help, give us a holler....

Thanks,

THE SHRINK
 

Mr. Smith

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seems like a lot of complaints with this sportsbook :(
 
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I was asked to pass this along from BetMania so I will...

Mike Mitchell said, " Since the Netteller fiasco payouts to US residents have had to be made through another method, namely WU or MG. And a great deal of funds are tied up in 6 month reserve with Netteller, which gets freed up on a daily basis,and have to be moved to accomodate WU payouts for US residents, and are limited to 5 per day which has also caused a backup. Secondly, BM is seeking out a new company to issue checks for them as their previous agent closed down after the Netteller meltdown. Hopefully a new check processor will be in place by March 1st to free up the back log as well. Payouts are moving out on a daily basis and we ask for your patience. Whoveer is making this claim please contact Mike on Tuesday after 12 noon and he will see if your payout can be expedited."

Is that Mike or Tomas? Either way BEWARE, cause the guy himself cant even pay on a 3+ year old gambling debt.
 
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AGREED...

I'd stay clear of them and any other sports book affiliated with them...

There are just too many SAFER choices out there...
 

Acosta

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They paid me via Moneygram in $1500 increments. They told me one payment every 15 days and held true to thier word. I received the last payment 2 days ago.
 
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They paid me via Moneygram in $1500 increments. They told me one payment every 15 days and held true to thier word. I received the last payment 2 days ago.

So let me make sure I understand, if I were to have 15 dimes there, I'd have to wait 5 MONTHS to be paid back in full??? :rolleyes:
 

joe blow

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So let me make sure I understand, if I were to have 15 dimes there, I'd have to wait 5 MONTHS to be paid back in full??? :rolleyes:

Yep:smokesmal

I have also pull out my last $1500 in there.I was paid,but it cost me $90 to get it out moneygram.Also they don't pay thru WU,not to the us anyway.
 
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BetMania is affiliated with Skybook, no?

Yea,

rio dave and roy started with that one then added sky, then several years later that clicknbet place, the one on the screen, mania has been ok as far as paying, first I have heard of this, especially with that amount.

rio dave, of course, married that little sweetie here a few years ago and took her home , I have talked to him several times over the past little bit also few guys even used him for a reference, he never mentioned any thing about problems with cash flow.

Hard to think mania would do this ask that little girl if you can just transfer that little bit out of there and say "Please", shoot it over Henry or WSEX if they would.


I think that is the best way to get to the real root of this problem. We will wait to hear what happened.


Joe
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:smokesmal
 
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-105,

I have been very close with the entire RIO group for years and I remain close with Dave...

RIO/SKYBOOK basically canned DAVE shortly after MARTY appeared...

Dave would not have anything very nice to say about RIO/SKYBOOk et al, but being the classy guy he is, he prolly wouldn't say much at all...

THE SHRINK
 
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AGREED...

I'd stay clear of them and any other sports book affiliated with them...

There are just too many SAFER choices out there...


Absolutly Shrink,
and joe stay far away, jesus it's $1500.

listen to the doctor, "several professional books out there" that you can fire all you want and they you payfast!



value
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:cheers
 
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yea I can't imagine,
can't wait to see what they tell Joe about the book 2 book tomorrow.

bullshit I use neteller everyday just as before and these guys blaming .... bullshit Joe that's BULLSHIT!



waiting paciently
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Shrink,
haven't heard anymore on that mania slow pay case have you?


on the right side, generally
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Word on the street, Place is for sale. Seems the owner has other issues, not sure what.
 
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Yeah seems the guy who owns it but really doesnt own it is selling, liquidating cause life on the lamb is exspensive.

LOL
 
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