Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

frankjohnson

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they deny they are doing it and they do and violate normal business regs regarding "full disclosure" even if they are not asked. Most bettors don't expect it and I suppose dirty says we're just sheep to be fleeced if we don't know better. It's that kind of attitude that denies the indurstry any real legitimacy so keep blowing off steam dirty.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Thanks for your obsession with me Frank... Please come to the next Blast like you promised... I will pay for the ticket


have a great day
 
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Thanks for your obsession with me Frank... Please come to the next Blast like you promised... I will pay for the ticket


have a great day


dirty<SCRIPT type=text/javascript> vbmenu_register("postmenu_621922", true); </SCRIPT> ........... R U GOONA OPEN UP A CAN OF WHOOP ASS?:+clueless
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Only a total mind numb follower could argue on behalf of dual lines.
 
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

frank - dont make this personal with dirty. i think the mods have certain obligations vis a vis the books who advertise here. it's nothing personal and you shouldnt take it as such. dirty - your threat to frank is not right.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Identity keep your nose out of business you don't know about.. He is the one that made the threat.. I am just making sure he keeps it
 
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

oh sorry dirty. then frank is out of line. i apologize. just so you guys know, it is threats like these that keep people from coming to bashes.
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

I told dirty i was coming to the next bash and gonna slug hm in the gut and watch him barf. But what I want to know is, does dirty advocate on behalf of dual lines cause he's a whore for the books. Hey we all swim in the same ocean but its just something i'd like to know or does he not beleive it's a deceptive business practice.
 

frankjohnson

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Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

Might just as well call a spade a spade.
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

I guess dirty's point is that if you don't like taking it in the ass with non disclosure then don't gamble. Expecting bookies to be honest guys? Who's kidding who?
 
Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

THATS NOT RIGHT! WEAK POST BRA!:(
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

I have been gambling for many decades. I enjoy the company and comaraderie of gamblers and the bookies i have known in my life have without exception been likeable good guys all the way. BUT I'm not going to defend devious shit like dual lines. As long as the industry engages in fraud it's legitimacy will be questioned and rightly so.
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

frank - dont make this personal with dirty. i think the mods have certain obligations vis a vis the books who advertise here. it's nothing personal and you shouldnt take it as such. dirty - your threat to frank is not right.

Since Dirty introduced the subject of "dual lines" today I think his views here are his views and not a result of working for the books. It's not like he had to come to their defense cause it wasn't even being discussed. He introduced the subject and defends fraudulent practices because that's how he is.
 

frankjohnson

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Dual line software, processor problems, betonsports, etc...........

Dual line software, processor problems, betonsports, etc...........

We were better off when we met Carmine once a week to square up. I however live in a tiny rural town where there ain't no locals so it's offshore or nothing.
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

You know if you drink enough free beer in a casino sportsbook you won't even realize there are duals lines. Let's face it this industry resorts to unconvetnional practices to seperate us from our money. Getting the vig ain't good enough so they get us drunk, give us dual lines, whatever. Makes me laugh when they say we want regulation now that the feds are cracking down. Fuck the feds and fuck dual lines.
 

frankjohnson

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Dirty really screwed up today posting the dual line thread

Dirty really screwed up today posting the dual line thread

It's not the kind of thing people in the industry even want discussed but since dirty thinks it ethical to engage in deceptive business practices he wanted to bring it up and rub it in the face of the "pussies" as he sees them who see it for what it is. Bad move Dirty.
 

Bucsfan67

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Frank, you've started 5 threads now on the exact same subject...they have all been merged together here...please keep it to one thread...


thank you
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Frank, you've started 5 threads now on the exact same subject...they have all been merged together here...please keep it to one thread...


thank you

That's fine. I really just wanted to embarrass dirty who thinks he's never wrong and the thread he started on dual lines was wrong on a couple of levels.
 

Bucsfan67

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

That's fine. I really just wanted to embarrass dirty who thinks he's never wrong and the thread he started on dual lines was wrong on a couple of levels.


Well please, EMBARASS him here then...


its appreciated...


I hope he doesnt end up in tears...
 

Rodney Bosich

EOG Member
It's not anyone's place to jump in and bash anybody

It's not anyone's place to jump in and bash anybody

...so let's just get the story. Frank, what happened? What do you mean by dual lines? From where I mean. This could be helpful info if you share it. Sorry if it's in other threads, just wanted a clarification.

Dirty has seemed to be a straight shooter from my perspective.

Thanks

RB
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Frank has been obsessed with me for months guys..I get a chuckle out of it... I guess he thinks he bothers me or something...but I just skim right over his posts and dont read most of them
 

OscarB

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Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Frank has been obsessed with me for months guys..I get a chuckle out of it... I guess he thinks he bothers me or something...but I just skim right over his posts and dont read most of them

I don't think he likes rednecks, Dirty.
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

I wasn't aware of it till i read about it here a whle back. The hi tech sportsbooks have software which identifies bettors who take nearly all dogs or conversely take nearly all favorites. They then give out different numbers to the different types of bettors. I read about it here first with guys accusing bodog of doing it. I called bodog and they said they didn't. That was good enough for me until I saw dirty's thread. When the subject was first discussed here a couple of weeks back he defended the practice but today he tells us he's just inquiring why people don't like it. Doesn't matter much what we think. It's a wildcatter type industry and guys will do what they want. I just hope bodog was being honest with me though guys here maintain they put out dual lines.
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

I don't think he likes rednecks, Dirty.

Funny how Dirty can't contain he's desire to rub all the "pussies" face in his point of view which reveals that he's never learned that on some subjects loose lips sink ships. Yea, he's a real man.
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: Dual line software, processor problems, betonsports, etc...........

Re: Dual line software, processor problems, betonsports, etc...........

We were better off when we met Carmine once a week to square up. I however live in a tiny rural town where there ain't no locals so it's offshore or nothing.


THERE ARE PLENT OF LOCALS IN YOUR COMMUNITY....THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU........THE WORD IS OUT........
 

Rodney Bosich

EOG Member
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

OK Thanks for the information. I had often wondered whether sportsbooks could and would do such a thing.
 

Rodney Bosich

EOG Member
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

And I had heard of the bodog thing. This site is good for info like that. Thanks again.
 
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

rodney - they do and it's not fair, especially when you post-up and they start changing lines on you.
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

rodney - they do and it's not fair, especially when you post-up and they start changing lines on you.

ID, THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHANGING LINES ON YOU AND DEALING DUAL LINES..............
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

She does not know the difference Devil
 

BigDaddy

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

this place has some of the dumbest threads sometimes


frank your a clown use it to your advantage and please STFU:cheers
 

munson15

I want winners...
Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

I guess dirty's point is that if you don't like taking it in the ass with non disclosure then don't gamble. Expecting bookies to be honest guys? Who's kidding who?

Frank, I think that Dirty has been a standup guy since I've been here, (admittedly not too long) and I don't see how it would be in his best interests to lead everyone down the road to ruin. If everyone was "taking it in the ass" there'd be a lot fewer guys on this site.

The subject has been brought up several times recently, and I believe it was an innocent question raised by Dirty.

Maybe we're not all on the same page as to exactly what dual lines are?:cheers
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

Re: Should we expect any thing but deceptive business practices from bookies?

Frank, I think that Dirty has been a standup guy since I've been here, (admittedly not too long) and I don't see how it would be in his best interests to lead everyone down the road to ruin. If everyone was "taking it in the ass" there'd be a lot fewer guys on this site.

The subject has been brought up several times recently, and I believe it was an innocent question raised by Dirty.

Maybe we're not all on the same page as to exactly what dual lines are?:cheers

MUNSON, A BOOK WILL QUOTE YOU -10 ON A GAME.........AND ANOTHER CUSTOMER AT THE EXACT SAME TIME WILL BE QUOTED 9.5...........BUT THE BOOK IS OBLIGATED TO TAKE YOUR BET ONCE YOU MAKE IT.........THERE IS NO SAYING OH I GAVE YOU THE WRONG LINE........

INTERNET BETTING IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THEN PHONE BETTING.......ON THE PHONE CLERK WILL SAY GAME 166 IS 10.......CUSTOMER SAYS GIMME 166 FOR XXXXX.....AT THAT TIME THE BOOK HAS NO OPTION BUT TO TAKE THE BET FOR UP TO THE MAX THEY BOOK.......

ON THE NET A BET IS NOT A BET UNTIL THE COMPUTER ACCEPTS IT.......MANY TIMES A PHONE CUSTOMER WILL BEAT THE NET PLAYER TO A GAME AND BEFORE THE BET IS ACCEPTED, IT IS VOIDED AS THE NET PLAYER WILL PROBABLY BE TOO SLOW.......
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Bodog says they don't give out dual lines. There was no ambiguity when I discussed it with two different supervisors. They knew what I meant and assured me it doesn't go on. If it does then that is clearly a deceptive business practice which could never escape a regulator's eye if the industry was regulated honestly. Even if a joint does it and are not asked it's not "full disclosure" and violates honest business practicies becaue as much as some think we should be treated like sheep business ethical concerns say otherwise.
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

That's fine. I really just wanted to embarrass dirty who thinks he's never wrong and the thread he started on dual lines was wrong on a couple of levels.

FRANK, YOU ARE A RETIRED LAWYER, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU ARE A GAMBLING MAVEN AND THINK YOU CAN EMBARESS DIRTY...........PLEASE IT'S 6:20 A.M......MUCH TO EARLY FOR ME TO BE LAUGHING AT YOU LIKE THIS..................
 

munson15

I want winners...
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Just saw your message to me Devil, and I appreciate the explanation. I know personally I'm more comfortable doing business online. So I run the risk of a rejection of my play. I know this subject is played out, but I wanted to thank you for taking the time.:cheers
 

munson15

I want winners...
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

I do have a local for football who I'm very comfortable talking to, I meant to say I'm more comfortable dealing w/ the offshore joints online vs. phone. Didn't want anyone to think I'm antisocial.:eek:
 

The Devil

EOG Master
Re: Dual lines are a deceptive business practice when

Just saw your message to me Devil, and I appreciate the explanation. I know personally I'm more comfortable doing business online. So I run the risk of a rejection of my play. I know this subject is played out, but I wanted to thank you for taking the time.:cheers

ANYTIME MUNSON......LOVE TO HELP..........
 
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