Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

9/11 Truth: Michael Moore Questions the Pentagon Strike

You Tube

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/020307Moore.htm

Friday, March 2, 2007

The Devil · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

DOC, WE ALREADY KNOW MOORE IS AN IDIOT, A VERY FAT IDIOT THAT HAS MADE MILLIONS ON OTHER IDIOTS THAT BELIEVE HIM......HE IS IN THE SAME MOLD AS THAT IDIOT ALEX JONES.....ONLY MOORE DOESN'T NEED THE T-SHIRT SALES............

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

He is intelligent and speaks the truth ....

The Devil · Mar 2, 2007

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I THINK YOUR ANSWER IS IN MY FIRST SENTENCE.............

roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

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new to this forum. have been reading threads for some time now. been wanting to ask a sreious question. if a missle hit the pentagon,what happened to american airlines flight 77?

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

again ....

why was no tape released out the 85 grabbed by our govt that shows the
Plane they claim hit the Pentagon?

Hmmmmm .... why is that since they released tapes showing planes going
into the WTCS

Please show one that clearly shows a commercial airline jet ... please do to
clear up this issue

The Devil · Mar 2, 2007

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roscoe said:
new to this forum. have been reading threads for some time now. been wanting to ask a sreious question. if a missle hit the pentagon,what happened to american airlines flight 77?

ROSCOE, WELCOME TO THE FORUM............

IF YOU WANT MY ANSWER IT CRASHED INTO THE PENTAGON.........IF YOU WANT UNBELIEVABLE ANSWERS......READ THE REPLY AFTER MINE..........

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Roscoe:

This is interesting ... NOT ONE ARAB on flight 77 !!

AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77

CREW

Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some day."
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.

PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
M.J. Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.
Dee Flagg
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.
Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate director of clinical research for a biotech firm.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
John Sammartino
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng
The Associated Press contributed to this report.

roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

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i have not seen footage of plane actually striking pentagon,but very hard to believe that a missile hit it.who fired it? why?

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Roscoe:

Flight 77 was the only hijacked plane that could not be tracked by radar the whole way as it lost radar contact near the Ohio/Kentucky border. So by this fact, Flight 77 could have gone anywhere since it's transponder was turned off and as some people claim only the military could track it and thereby staying perfectly hidden from all radar of the civil authorities

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Summary of Flight 77 passengers:

Total passengers: 64
Passengers involved in gov?t/defense related work: 21
Senior staff/directors/managers: 18
Military backgrounds: 10
Navy background: 7
Executives/chief officers/presidents: 5
Men: 30
Women: 24
Kids: 5
Non-hijacker passengers: 59
Alleged Hijackers*: 5

*Allegedly armed with only knifes and box cutters.
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="3" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" height="19" width="100%"> Is it a just coincidence the most of the passengers on Flight 77 with military backgrounds were Navy and that the crash at the Pentagon happened in the Navy's command center which took the heaviest casualties?
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Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

In an interview Oct. 12, 2001 with Lyric Wallwork Winik from Parade Magazine, Donald Rumsfeld let it "slip" that a missle hit the Pentaon. The Department of Defense OFFICIAL website still has it up for reference (that is hard to believe).
U.S. Department of Defense Official Website

Q: This is a question that's been asked by many Americans, but especially by the widows of September 11th. How were we so asleep at the switch? How did a war targeting civilians arrive on our homeland with seemingly no warning?
Rumsfeld: There were lots of warnings. The intelligence information that we get, it sometimes runs into the hundreds of alerts or pieces of intelligence a week. One looks at the worldwide, it's thousands. And the task is to sort through it and see what you can find. And as you find things, the law enforcement officials who have the responsibility to deal with that type of thing -- the FBI at the federal level, and although it is not, it's an investigative service as opposed to a police force, it's not a federal police force, as you know. But the state and local law enforcement officials have the responsibility for dealing with those kinds of issues.
They [find a lot] and any number of terrorist efforts have been dissuaded, deterred or stopped by good intelligence gathering and good preventive work. It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.

Very interesting! An American Airlines flight - I thought it was 2 American flights and United flights that were "hijacked" on 9/11. And we all know that back in December while visiting the troops, Rummy admitted to Flight 93 being shot down.
CNN.com

DONALD RUMSFELD, SECRETARY OF DEFENSE: And to change that way of living, would strike at the very essence of our country.
And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten -- indeed the word "terrorized" is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be.

Here is something else:
U.S. Department of Defense Official Website

The secretary was in his office, really not that far away from the side of the building that got hit by the plane. He and another person immediately ran down the hallway and went outside and helped some of the people, some of the casualties getting off the stretchers, etc. When he came back in the building about half an hour later, he was the first one that told us he was quite sure it was a plane. Based on the wreckage and based on the thousands and thousands of pieces of metal. He was the one that told us, the staff that was in the room. So he was really the first one who told us that it was most likely a plane.

Rumsfeld's office was on the OPPOSITE side of the building as the "crash." Rumsfeld went to "help" survivors for about 1/2 hour and when he returned Rummy was "quite sure it was a plane" thanks for that eye-witness report Rummy. But WHY did Rummy not know about danger to Washington?
Guardian Unlimited

The American military air defence command was told by the federal aviation administration that a hijacked commercial airliner was heading towards Washington 12 minutes before it hit. But during that crucial time the defence secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, and his top aides remained unaware of any imminent danger.
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But while officials knew of the attacks in New York, few imagined that the Pentagon itself could be a target. Following the second attack, John Jester, chief of the defence protective service, which guards the Pentagon, raised the building's state of alert just one level, from normal to alpha, which demanded no more than spot-inspections of vehicles and increased police patrols.

Are they REALLY that dumb or do they expect the American public to buy this? The government is covering up the events of 9/11, that is a fact not a conspiracy theory!

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Roscoe: watch this video as THE RIGHTIES HATE IT !!

NearlyGood.com - Video - Pentagon Lies Video

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Roscoe: Need some tough grass for your front lawn??? 100 TONS OF COMMERCIAL AIRLINE JET SKIDS ACROSS THE FRONT LAWN OF THE PENTAGON AND?

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(Exclusively tested at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.)

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(*Tire marks on lawn are temporary and will gradually disappear within an hour.)

</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <table style="border-collapse: collapse;" id="AutoNumber4" border="0" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td width="100%"> On September 11, 2001, a bunch of mean nasty Arab terrorists -- who hated our freedoms -- hijacked American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 fully loaded with fuel, and crashed it through the first floor of the west side wall of the Pentagon.
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Just listen to what the reports of this horrible crash had to say...

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</td> </tr> <tr> <td height="19" width="100%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="38" width="100%">The Boeing 757 struck Wedge 1 on the Heliport side of the Pentagon very low to the ground and entered Wedge 1 just to the north of Corridor 4 on the first and second floors. - Annual Status Report to Congress </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="1" width="100%">
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"And the plane came through the first floor, right through Naval Ops..." - CNN

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</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="57" width="100%">"As eyewitnesses described and photographs demonstrate, the hijacked airliner dived so low as it approached the Pentagon that it actually hit the ground first, thereby dissipating much of the energy that might otherwise have caused more extensive damage to the building." - Snopes.com</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="19" width="100%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="38" width="100%"> "The plane slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon. The impact was deafening. The fuselage hit the ground and blew up." - Delaware Online</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="19" width="100%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="38" width="100%">"I watched in horror as the plane flew at treetop level, banked slightly to the left, drug it's wing along the ground and slammed into the west wall of the Pentagon exploding into a giant orange fireball." - James Madison Univ.</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="19" width="100%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="38" width="100%">"Then he caught an edge of his wing on the ground. There is a helicopter pad right in front of the side of the Pentagon. The wing touched there, then the plane cart wheeled into the building." - Time</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="19" width="100%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="57" width="100%">"It is also evident that the plane was on the ground before striking the Pentagon albeit skimming the grass. I might also point out that distant photos will miss details on the ground that up-close observation would show." - Christian Patriots/Pentagon Crash Analysis</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="19" width="100%"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="justify" height="19" width="100%">

Patrick Di Justo: "The plane hit the ground first, then slid into the building." - Paul Boutin weblogger.com

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That must have hurt!

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Just think what this would do to your lawn after an explosion like this.

Plane debris, skid marks, fire burns, jet fuel, luggage, body parts, yuck!

You would have to shell out thousands of dollars to clean up this mess!

But wait, this is not your ordinary lawn!

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Do you think just any lawn would hold up like this after a plane crashed on it?

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Only the

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This is how ordinary lawns look after commercial airliners crashed on them...

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But look how marvelous the

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Even your spouse will be impressed!

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And look how nice and neat the

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roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

doc are you saying everyone on the plane was part of some kind of conspiracy?how? why? also i have seen pictures of plane wreckage.

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Roscoe:

Go learn about OPERATIONS NORTHWOOD .... this aint the first time our govt is willing to sacrifice American lives to justify starting a war

This goes back to the Kennedy days ...

9-11 was a Massive Inside job and the tape from the BBC that now the #1 most watched tape right now on YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. and shows it very clearly .... the BBC is doing a broadast and behind the reporters STANDING is WTC #7 and she is yapping how #7 has fallen ...and IT DOES FALL 23 MINUTES LATER WHEN SILVERSTEIN MADE BILLIONS AND TOLD THE CREW TO "PULL IT" .... AND IT HAPPENED TO FALL IDENTICAL TO THE OTHER 2 WTC'S ... AMAZING HUH?

Google censors and pulls the BBC tape yesterday and I wonder why that was?? hmmmmm ... Google get seed money from who? THE FLAPPIN CIA!! Follow the bouncing ball? Why else would Google pull that tape???

THE ONLY CONSPIRACY NUTCASES NOW CLEARLY ARE THOSE WHO BUY THE OFFICIAL BULLSHIT STORY FROM BUSHCO REGARDING 9-11

roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

i saw the planes hit wtc.we all saw the planes hit wtc.

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

and most of the fuel was deposited out of the WTCs is you look closely
at videos ...

William Rodriguez is a janitor who worked 20 yrs at the WTC ... goes to the hospital over injuries for explosions in the basement of the WTC where he
worked ... the 9-11 commission - hand picked by BUSHCO - makes him do
his testimony in private and did not include his testimony in the 9-11 report
which is nearly as strong as the Warren Commission report on JRK

Both WTCs drop identical to WTC #7 .... the Empire State building had a big ol B52 plow into it in 1945 .... burned and DID NOT DROP and this is the only time IN RECORDED HISTORY THAT STRUCTURES LIKE THE WTCS drop from fires .... AND THE FIRES WERE NOT HOT ENOUGH TO MELT THOSE STEEL STRUCTURES

Watch how they drop ....IDENTICAL TO BUILDINGS YOU'VE SEEN WHERE CREWS DYNAMITE THE BUILDINGS ... THEY ALL DROP STRAIGHT DOWN !!!

roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

doc, we saw the planes hit the buildings,what else would have brought them down?

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Controlled Demo ....

It was not the planes ....no way in hell !!

Go watch #7 fall ... Silverstein admitted it was PULLED and fell IDENITCAL
to the other two

Most of the fuel was deposited outside if ya watch the slow motion video
replays and the fires were proven not to be hot enough to melt the steel
beams

AGAIN ...GO WATCH EM COLLAPSE ....STRAIGHT DOWN AS #7 - AND GO LOOK AT WHAT #7 CONTAINED INSIDE

Guess who head of Security at the WTC's one day prior to 9-11???????

One more "interesting" piece:

Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served.

According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Heightened WTC Security Alert Had Just Been Lifted

The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. [NY NewsDay]

Pre-9/11 World Trade Center Power-Down

On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]

Marvin Bush was in New York on 9/11

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Both WTC 6 and WTC 7 were evacuated within minutes of Flight 11 striking WTC 1 - this didn't happen in the twin towers. There were no evacuation announcements in WTC 1 following the plane strike, and workers were encouraged to stay in their building...

roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

doc,are you saying the hijackers also planted explosives in the wtc?if it was others they had to be in with the hijackers.this seems pretty far out there.

The Devil · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

doc mercer said:
and most of the fuel was deposited out of the WTCs is you look closely
at videos ...

William Rodriguez is a janitor who worked 20 yrs at the WTC ... goes to the hospital over injuries for explosions in the basement of the WTC where he
worked ... the 9-11 commission - hand picked by BUSHCO - makes him do
his testimony in private and did not include his testimony in the 9-11 report
which is nearly as strong as the Warren Commission report on JRK

Both WTCs drop identical to WTC #7 .... the Empire State building had a big ol B52 plow into it in 1945 .... burned and DID NOT DROP and this is the only time IN RECORDED HISTORY THAT STRUCTURES LIKE THE WTCS drop from fires .... AND THE FIRES WERE NOT HOT ENOUGH TO MELT THOSE STEEL STRUCTURES

Watch how they drop ....IDENTICAL TO BUILDINGS YOU'VE SEEN WHERE CREWS DYNAMITE THE BUILDINGS ... THEY ALL DROP STRAIGHT DOWN !!!

SEE DOC, THIS IS WHY I LIKE TO DEBATE YOU.........THE BIG OLD B-52 THAT CRASHED INTO THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING WAS A SMALLISH B-25.......AND THE FUEL BACK THEN ON PROP PLANES WAS NOT THE HIGHLY FLAMABLE JET FUEL WE USE TODAY...........ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR MISCONCEPTIONS.......

AS FAR AS THE FUEL DROPPING OUT OF THE WTC BUILDING, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ACCURATE, SURE SOME FELL ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT THE MAJORITY WENT INSIDE, ALONG WITH THE PLANES..................ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR MISCONCEPTIONS.......

I AM SURE YOU DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT OF EXPLOSIVES IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN TO BRING DOWN THOSE 3 BUILDINS, AND I AM PRETTY SURE NONE OF YOUR BLOGS WOULD EVEN CARRY THAT INFORMATION........BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT TOOK ALMOST 8 MONTHS TO SET THE EXPLOSIVES AT THREE RIVERS STADIUM TO TAKE THAT DOWN...........AND THEY HAVE TO CUT PRETTY DEEP INTO THE STEEL TO SET THE EXPLOSIVES.......DON'T YOU THINK IN 3 BUILDINGS THEY WOULD HAVE NEEDED MORE EXPLOSIVES, AND DON'T YOU THINK ONE OR 2 OF THE 20,000 PEOPLE THAT WORKED THERE WOULD REMEMBER A WALL BEING TAKEN DOWN IN THEIR OFFICE TO PLANT EXPLOSIVES.........ANOTHER PLUS FACTOR YOU WILL PAY NO ATTENTION TO IS THE FACT THAT EVEN IF EXPLOSIVES HAD BEEN PLACED IN THE BUILDINGS AT AN EARLIER DATE, EXPLOSIVE CAPS WOULD HAVE TO BE INSTALLED AND THEN WIRED TO TRIGGER THE EXPLOSION......AND NOONE WOULD SEE 10'S OF MILES OF WIRING IN THE TRADE CENTERS........NOT ONE OF THE 20,000 WORKERS....AMAZING ISN'T IT.......

A TRUCK LOAD OF EXPLOSIVES COULDN'T BRING DOWN THE BUILDING IN 93, BUT SOME QUICK AND DIRTY EXPLOSIVES (PROBABLY BROUGHT IN THE DAY BEFORE) COULD DO THE JOB..........

NOW YOU CAN CUT AND PASTE ALL THE HOGWASH YOU WANT ABOUT EXPLOSIVES BEING USED, AND YOU CAN PASTE ALL THE SILVERMAN SAID THAT WTC 7 WAS BEING PULLED.............BUT I DOUBT EVEN YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT..............AND YOU CAN QUOTE SOME JANITOR WHO HEARD A NOISE.........BUT MOST OF WHAT YOU POST ABOUT THE WTC IS NOT BELIEVEABLE BY RATIONAL PEOPLE..........

IF YOU BELIEVE THE WTC WAS TAKEN DOWN BY DETONATION........WITHOUT SOME BULLSHIT CUT AND PASTE.......I WILL READ YOUR RESPONSE........BUT IF YOU WANT TO CUT AND PASTE SOME LEFT WING BLOG, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF SAYING IT IN YOUR OWN WORDS....I WILL UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WILL ONCE AGAIN PROVE ME RIGHT, THAT I CAN OUT DEBATE YOU ANY DAY OF THE WEEK........

roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

devil,i still don't understand why do they need explosives if they are going to fly jetliners into the buildings.look what damage the planes caused!

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Silverstein didnt say it was PULLED??? BULLSHIT !!

Larry Silverstein Admits to Demolishing World Trade Center 7 on 9/11 - Google Video

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

<table class="text" bgcolor="#333333" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td class="forum-chapo" bgcolor="#cccccc">WTC Basement Blast And Injured Burn Victim Blows ?Official 9/11 Story? Sky High
27 June 2005 - 23h41 - Posted by 65.**.77.***</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff"> HERE IS SOME OF WHY THE 9/11 COMMISSION BURIED THIS SILENT HERO?S STORY.:?

The 9/11 Commission is the Cover-up Commission. The foxes are guarding the chicken coop.

The Commission?s framework is the official story, which is as one military witness put it: "On 9-11, the U.S. was attacked from within by foreign terrorists using planes as weapons."

The Commissioners have ties with the very parties they are investigating including the CIA, the bin Ladens, and Bush administration officials

A truly independent investigation would examine WHO carried out the attacks. That means examining all those capable of carrying out the attacks, including elements of the U.S. government. To date, the administration has presented no evidence it was Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda.

Remember, Bush and his cabinet could not trust the American people with that information before they rushed into destroy Afghanistan ? again. No tapes. Nothing but an alleged hijacker?s passport which miraculously survived the rubble of the World Trade Center.

Given the number of Freudian remarks at the (Commission) hearings March 23 -24 ? advisors and officials saying "CIA" when they meant al Qaeda, for example ? maybe the truth is slipping out.

The 9/11 Commission is officially called the NATIONAL COMMISSION ON TERRORIST ATTACKS UPON THE UNITED STATES.

The Bush administration had already written the plot line and these 10 "independent Commissioners" are merely reading the script.

It looks like Karl Rove called central casting and found Washington insiders with so many conflicts of interest, with so much to lose in their high powered jobs, they are guaranteed to play their roles and keep the truth under wraps.

Instead, it is clear the Commission?s report will echo the "who would have ever thought" and bungling federal intelligence agencies that independent researchers long ago dispelled. ?.

FOR MORE ON THE COMMISSIONERS CONFLICTING CONNECTIONS AND 9/11, go to Read This List at Topica Email List Directory

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Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Roscoe:

Let us run down some questions that folks like Devil cant or refuse to answer reqarding the morning of 9-11:

1) Why was Cheney running NORAD?? Notice no fighter jets?? and why did the fighter jets take off in the wrong direction when they finally took off?

2) Why did Bush fly Bin Laden's family and 140 Saudis out of Logan shortly
after 9-11?

3) How did Atta's passport just happen to end up in rubble 2 blocks from the WTC'S?

4) How did the govt manage to show pictures of hijackers that are not even on any of the passenger lists?

5) Why did Rumsfeld admit in an Oct, 2001 interview that a missle hit the Pentagon?

6) Why did Bush sit in the school in Fla for 7 minutes if he was told this country was under attack?

7) How does one account for the miilions in AA stock that was shorted just days before 9-11?

8) Why did Rice call the Mayor of SF on 9-10 and warn him not to fly Commercial Airliners the next day?

9) How is it possible that cell calls were placed on planes from heights where the technology to connect did not exsist until 2004?

10) Why is the only Todd Beamer show up in the SS Death Index having
died in 1997 when he was the "lets roll" guy on flight 93?

11) Why did Beamer talk to the operator for 13 minutes and when asked if he wanted his wife SAID NO??

12) Where are the wings on that Commercial Airline Jet that supposedly hit
the Pentagon?

AND MANY MORE ....

The Devil · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

YOU DIDN'T ANSWER ONE QUESTION I ASKED......ALL YOU CAME WITH WAS THE SAME OLD CUT AND PASTES......

SEE DOC, YOU CAN'T DEBATE ME ONE ON ONE.......JUST LIKE I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR THE LAST YEAR.......

roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

doc,your 12 questions insinuate that bush,cheney,rice,and norad all had prior knowledge of what was to transpire on 9-11.if this is so,why wouldn't every democrat in government want justice.even if the 9-11 commission was tainted,there has to be some honest men and women in government who would not let this travesty go on.what about the mainstream press?if rumsfeld had said a missle hit the pentagon it would have been the story of the decade.maybe sometimes things really are as they look.

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Operation Northwoods ..... go learn as our govt is willing to sacrifice American lives to promote war

The American political system is broke .... Polticians on both sides are afraid to take action for fear of getting voted out of Office

This county has been run the Skull & Boners for nearly 20 straight years and the NWO is quickly falling into place .... go check out the NAU pact signed behind everyone's back in March of 2005 .... ITS REAL and now the bitching is starting in Austin as the Tx Trans Corridor is being implemented quickly and the CFR Documents that run 57 pgs outlines a land grab coming of roughly 550,000 privately held acres to move the 10 lane super highway to completion ... Bush is lack on Immigration for a good reason, our borders are officially gone in 2010 and KC will be the Main hub of the 1600 mile Super Highway and part of Mexican soverignity

Bush is a puppet for the Bilderbergs and Cheney and his WACK JOB PNACers are moving ahead with their plans drawn up in 93

Our country is bankrupt ... we are watching the world shift to the Euro and if China calls our markers we are done

Rome dissolved from within .... we are Modern Day Rome and in deeepppp sheeettttt ..

roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

doc, i must respectfully disagree.i have faith in the people of this country. this country is certainly not perfect,but is far and away the best thing around!

The Devil · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

DOC, PLEASE STICK TO THE SUBJECT MATTER AT HAND......

SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE LOSING ANOTHER DEBATE TO ME......SO IT'S CUT,PASTE AND BS TIME AGAIN...........

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Roscoe:

Faith is what led Germany down its path

Hilter was Skull & Bones and so is George Bush

Believe what ya want ... go read about the PNAC and where they are taking this country

I live in Austin ...get ready as our borders with Mexico are officially gone in 2010 and go learn and read about the NAU

Ask Y what the Bilderbergs are and what the NWO is abll about ....

We have never had a more secretive and corrupt adminstration than what we have in place right now .... Bush called the Constitution a "god damned piced of paper" and with Gonzales help they shredded the Constitution via
Bush's bullshit "war on terror"

Bush is THE ONLY PRESIDENT with a Police record .... there are 800 FEMA "Detention Centers:" and Bush has written into the Patriot Act the ability to arrest folks that are "threats" ... hell, the FBI hassled an 81 yr old man who wrote a letter to the editor in PA stating the 'wrong man was hung in Iraq"

Look at what is going on? They are monitoring your emails, phone calls, bank records and the National ID is scheduled for 2008

Bush is a corrupt bastard who takes his directions from FreeMason bastard
Dick Cheney and the Rove Smear machine takes out CIA Operatives and even their own folks like John McCain

The Devil · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

The Devil said:
SEE DOC, THIS IS WHY I LIKE TO DEBATE YOU.........THE BIG OLD B-52 THAT CRASHED INTO THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING WAS A SMALLISH B-25.......AND THE FUEL BACK THEN ON PROP PLANES WAS NOT THE HIGHLY FLAMABLE JET FUEL WE USE TODAY...........ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR MISCONCEPTIONS.......

AS FAR AS THE FUEL DROPPING OUT OF THE WTC BUILDING, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO ACCURATE, SURE SOME FELL ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT THE MAJORITY WENT INSIDE, ALONG WITH THE PLANES..................ANOTHER ONE OF YOUR MISCONCEPTIONS.......

I AM SURE YOU DON'T KNOW THE AMOUNT OF EXPLOSIVES IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN TO BRING DOWN THOSE 3 BUILDINS, AND I AM PRETTY SURE NONE OF YOUR BLOGS WOULD EVEN CARRY THAT INFORMATION........BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT TOOK ALMOST 8 MONTHS TO SET THE EXPLOSIVES AT THREE RIVERS STADIUM TO TAKE THAT DOWN...........AND THEY HAVE TO CUT PRETTY DEEP INTO THE STEEL TO SET THE EXPLOSIVES.......DON'T YOU THINK IN 3 BUILDINGS THEY WOULD HAVE NEEDED MORE EXPLOSIVES, AND DON'T YOU THINK ONE OR 2 OF THE 20,000 PEOPLE THAT WORKED THERE WOULD REMEMBER A WALL BEING TAKEN DOWN IN THEIR OFFICE TO PLANT EXPLOSIVES.........ANOTHER PLUS FACTOR YOU WILL PAY NO ATTENTION TO IS THE FACT THAT EVEN IF EXPLOSIVES HAD BEEN PLACED IN THE BUILDINGS AT AN EARLIER DATE, EXPLOSIVE CAPS WOULD HAVE TO BE INSTALLED AND THEN WIRED TO TRIGGER THE EXPLOSION......AND NOONE WOULD SEE 10'S OF MILES OF WIRING IN THE TRADE CENTERS........NOT ONE OF THE 20,000 WORKERS....AMAZING ISN'T IT.......

A TRUCK LOAD OF EXPLOSIVES COULDN'T BRING DOWN THE BUILDING IN 93, BUT SOME QUICK AND DIRTY EXPLOSIVES (PROBABLY BROUGHT IN THE DAY BEFORE) COULD DO THE JOB..........

NOW YOU CAN CUT AND PASTE ALL THE HOGWASH YOU WANT ABOUT EXPLOSIVES BEING USED, AND YOU CAN PASTE ALL THE SILVERMAN SAID THAT WTC 7 WAS BEING PULLED.............BUT I DOUBT EVEN YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT..............AND YOU CAN QUOTE SOME JANITOR WHO HEARD A NOISE.........BUT MOST OF WHAT YOU POST ABOUT THE WTC IS NOT BELIEVEABLE BY RATIONAL PEOPLE..........

IF YOU BELIEVE THE WTC WAS TAKEN DOWN BY DETONATION........WITHOUT SOME BULLSHIT CUT AND PASTE.......I WILL READ YOUR RESPONSE........BUT IF YOU WANT TO CUT AND PASTE SOME LEFT WING BLOG, BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF SAYING IT IN YOUR OWN WORDS....I WILL UNDERSTAND, AND YOU WILL ONCE AGAIN PROVE ME RIGHT, THAT I CAN OUT DEBATE YOU ANY DAY OF THE WEEK........

GUESS YOU ARE SAYING YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS SO YOU ARE CHANGING THE SUBJECT........TOLD YOU DOC, YOU ARE NO MATCH FOR ME.........

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

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Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

YOU CAN QUOTE SOME JANITOR WHO HEARD A NOISE???

Yeah, and the 9-11 Commission made Rodriguez does his testimony in private and did not include it in the 9-11 Official Report ... the guy does to the hospital over injuries from explosions and now is getting death threats

Lets see:

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Photos show people walking around in the hole in the North Tower "where 10,000 gallons of jet fuel were supposedly burning. The women (p. 27) seem to (sic) looking down to the ground" (the NIST "Response" pdf, p. 62, also shows a similar photo of the same blond woman with light-colored slacks looking over the edge of the 94<sup>th</sup> floor).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]By the time the South Tower was hit, most of the North Tower?s flames had already vanished, burning for only 16 minutes. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The fire did not grow over time, probably because it quickly ran out of fuel and was suffocating rather than the sprinkler system dousing the fires. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]FDNY fire fighters remain under a gag order (Rodriguezvs-1.Bush.pdf, p. 10) to not discuss the explosions they heard, felt and saw. FAA personnel are also under a 9/11 gag order. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Even the 9/11 Commission (Kean-Zelikow) Report acknowledges that "none of the [fire] chiefs present believed that a total collapse of either tower was possible" (Ch. 9, p. 302). It shocked everyone that day, amateur and professional alike, although some firefighters realized that so-called secondary explosive devices were a risk.[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Fire had never before caused steel-frame buildings to collapse except for the three buildings on 9/11, nor has fire collapsed any steel high rise since 9/11.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The fires, especially in the South Tower and WTC-7, were small.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]WTC-7 was unharmed by an airplane and had only minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors of this 47-story steel building yet it collapsed in less than 10 seconds.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]WTC-5 and WTC-6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams (pp. 68?9).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]In a PBS documentary, Larry Silverstein, the WTC lease-holder, recalled talking to the fire department commander on 9/11 about WTC-7 and said, "?maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it," slang for demolish it. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]FEMA, given the uninviting task of explaining the collapse of Building 7 with mention of demolition verboten admitted that the best it could come up with had "only a low probability of occurrence."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]It?s difficult if not impossible for hydrocarbon fires like those fed by jet fuel (kerosene) to raise the temperature of steel close to melting.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Each WTC building collapse occurred at virtually free-fall speed (approximately 10 seconds or less).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Each building collapsed, for the most part, into its own footprint.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Virtually all the concrete (an estimated 100,000 tons in each tower) on every floor was pulverized into a very fine dust, a phenomenon that requires enormous energy and could not be caused by gravity alone ("?workers can?t even find concrete. ?It?s all dust,? [the official] said"). [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Dust exploded horizontally for a couple hundred feet, as did debris, at the beginning of each tower?s collapse.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Collapses were total, leaving none of the massive core columns sticking up hundreds of feet into the air.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Salvage experts were amazed at how small the debris stacks were.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The steel beams and columns came down in sections under 30 feet long and had no signs of "softening"; there was little left but shorn sections of steel and a few bits of concrete.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Photos and videos of the collapses all show "demolition waves," meaning "confluent rows of small explosions" along floors (blast sequences).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]According to many witnesses, explosions occurred within the buildings.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Each collapse had detectable seismic vibrations suggestive of underground explosions, similar to the 2.3 earthquake magnitude from a demolition like the Seattle Kingdome
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Each collapse produced molten steel identical to that generated by explosives, resulting in "hot spots" that persisted for months (the two hottest spots at WTC-2 and WTC-7 were approximately 1,350<sup>o</sup> F five days after being continuously flooded with water, a temperature high enough to melt aluminum
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Controlled demolition would have required unimpeded access to the WTC, access to explosives, avoiding detection, and the expertise to orchestrate the deadly destruction from a nearby secure location. Such access before 9/11 likely depended on complicity by one or more WTC security companies. These companies focus on "access control" and as security specialist Wayne Black says, "When you have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Stratesec, a now-defunct company that had security contracts at the World Trade Center and Dulles International Airport, should be investigated, among others, because of the strange coincidence that President Bush?s brother, Marvin P. Bush, and his cousin, Wirt D. Walker III, were principals in the company, with Walker acting as CEO from 1999 until January 2002 and Marvin reportedly in New York on 9/11. At least one report claims that a "power down" condition prevailed on September 8?9 at WTC to complete a "cabling upgrade," presenting an opportunity to plant explosives with low risk of detection.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]A related point is that demolition companies go to considerable expense to wire steel-framed skyscrapers with explosives to produce safe implosions, and they would love to do it more cheaply by simply setting two small fires like those that (allegedly) caved in building 7. Apparently, the terrorist-inventors have kept this new technology secret.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Why would the killers destroy WTC-7, especially since a collapse would arouse suspicion in some quarters? A logical if unproven theory is that the perpetrators used Mayor Giuliani?s sealed OEM "bunker" on the 23d story of WTC-7 to conduct the twin tower implosions and then destroyed the building and evidence to cover up their crimes, just as a murderer might set his victim?s dwelling ablaze to cover up the crime (one in four fires is arson). Giuliani?s "undisclosed secret location" was perfect because it had been evacuated by 9:45 a.m. on 9/11, it enabled unmolested work, provided a ringside seat, was bullet- and bomb-resistant, had its own secure air and water supply, and could withstand winds of 160 mph, necessary protection from the wind blasts generated by collapsing skyscrapers. [/FONT]

The Devil · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

DOC......TELL ME YOUR THEORY ON HOW THEY SET THE EXPLOSIVES IN THE 3 BUILDINGS........WHERE WHERE THEY DETONATED FROM.........AND YOUR THEORY BY WHO?????

Doc Mercer · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

I dont have the answers and neither do you ...

I just know they collapsed identical to 7 when the controlled demos took that one down

Sorry .... I was not present and neither were you

There is a reason over 100,000,000 Americans and growing dont but the Official Story and too many questions that cant be answered and make no
sense whatsoever

Believe what ya want ... I saw 2 buildings drop Identical to #7 and saw the BBC say live with #7 right behind it that 7 had gone down when IT DID NOT
DROP FOR ANOTHER 23 MINUTES

TOO MANY HOLES ... TOO FEW ANSWERS FROM THE OFFICIAL VERSION

roscoe · Mar 2, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentagon??

didn;t bin laden claim responsabilty for 9-11.if so he would have had to be acting in concert with leaders of our government.very,very doubtful!

The Devil · Mar 3, 2007

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

Re: Great question: WHERE IS THE FOOTAGE of the Plane they claim they hit the Pentag

doc mercer said:
I dont have the answers and neither do you ...

I just know they collapsed identical to 7 when the controlled demos took that one down

Sorry .... I was not present and neither were you

There is a reason over 100,000,000 Americans and growing dont but the Official Story and too many questions that cant be answered and make no
sense whatsoever

Believe what ya want ... I saw 2 buildings drop Identical to #7 and saw the BBC say live with #7 right behind it that 7 had gone down when IT DID NOT
DROP FOR ANOTHER 23 MINUTES

TOO MANY HOLES ... TOO FEW ANSWERS FROM THE OFFICIAL VERSION

DOC AS FAR AS WHAT THE BBC SAID.......I HEARD A FEW MAJOR NEWS STATIONS SAY THEY HEARD 10 PLANES WERE HIJAVED....HEARD SOME SAY THEY WERE HEADED OR CRASHED INTO CONGRESS ETC........AT THAT POINT IN TIME MANY HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS HAPPENING......

ArchieBunker · Mar 3, 2007

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It only took a little over 18,000 posts for the truth to come out:

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dirty · Mar 3, 2007

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Before he came back it was 270,000 or 300,000 that didn't believe the official Version.. now it is 100k...

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