Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

dirty

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Garamond, Times]The Hubbell Standard[/FONT]
[FONT=Garamond, Times]Hillary Clinton knows all about sacking U.S. Attorneys.[/FONT]
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Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:01 a.m. EDT
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[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]Congressional Democrats are in full cry over the news this week that the Administration's decision to fire eight U.S. Attorneys originated from--gasp--the White House. Senator Hillary Clinton joined the fun yesterday, blaming President Bush for "the politicization of our prosecutorial system." Oh, my.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]As it happens, Mrs. Clinton is just the Senator to walk point on this issue of dismissing U.S. attorneys because she has direct personal experience. In any Congressional probe of the matter, we'd suggest she call herself as the first witness--and bring along Webster Hubbell as her chief counsel.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]As everyone once knew but has tried to forget, Mr. Hubbell was a former partner of Mrs. Clinton at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock who later went to jail for mail fraud and tax evasion. He was also Bill and Hillary Clinton's choice as Associate Attorney General in the Justice Department when Janet Reno, his nominal superior, simultaneously fired all 93 U.S. Attorneys in March 1993. Ms. Reno--or Mr. Hubbell--gave them 10 days to move out of their offices.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]At the time, President Clinton presented the move as something perfectly ordinary: "All those people are routinely replaced," he told reporters, "and I have not done anything differently." In fact, the dismissals were unprecedented: Previous Presidents, including Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter, had both retained holdovers from the previous Administration and only replaced them gradually as their tenures expired. This allowed continuity of leadership within the U.S. Attorney offices during the transition.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]Equally extraordinary were the politics at play in the firings. At the time, Jay Stephens, then U.S. Attorney in Chicago, was investigating then Ways and Means Chairman Dan Rostenkowski, and was "within 30 days" of making a decision on an indictment. Mr. Rostenkowski, who was shepherding the Clinton's economic program through Congress, eventually went to jail on mail fraud charges and was later pardoned by Mr. Clinton. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]Also at the time, allegations concerning some of the Clintons' Whitewater dealings were coming to a head. By dismissing all 93 U.S. Attorneys at once, the Clintons conveniently cleared the decks to appoint "Friend of Bill" Paula Casey as the U.S. Attorney for Little Rock. Ms. Casey never did bring any big Whitewater indictments, and she rejected information from another FOB, David Hale, on the business practices of the Arkansas elite including Mr. Clinton. When it comes to "politicizing" Justice, in short, the Bush White House is full of amateurs compared to the Clintons. [/FONT][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times] And it may be this very amateurism that explains how the current Administration has managed to turn this routine issue of replacing Presidential appointees into a political fiasco. There was nothing wrong with replacing the eight Attorneys, all of whom serve at the President's pleasure. Prosecutors deserve supervision like any other executive branch appointees.[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]The supposed scandal this week is that Mr. Bush had been informed last fall that some U.S. Attorneys had been less than vigorous in pursuing voter-fraud cases and that the President had made the point to Attorney General Albert Gonzales. Voter fraud strikes at the heart of democratic institutions, and it was entirely appropriate for Mr. Bush--or any President--to insist that his appointees act energetically against it.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]Take sacked U.S. Attorney John McKay from Washington state. In 2004, the Governor's race was decided in favor of Democrat Christine Gregoire by 129-votes on a third recount. As the Seattle Post-Intelligencer and other media outlets reported, some of the "voters" were deceased, others were registered in storage-rental facilities, and still others were convicted felons. More than 100 ballots were "discovered" in a Seattle warehouse. None of this constitutes proof that the election was stolen. But it should have been enough to prompt Mr. McKay, a Democrat, to investigate, something he declined to do, apparently on grounds that he had better things to do. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]In New Mexico, another state in which recent elections have been decided by razor thin margins, U.S. Attorney David Iglesias did establish a voter fraud task force in 2004. But it lasted all of 10 weeks before closing its doors, despite evidence of irregularities by the likes of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or Acorn. As our John Fund reported at the time, Acorn's director Matt Henderson refused to answer questions in court about whether his group had illegally made copies of voter registration cards in the run-up to the 2004 election.[/FONT][/FONT]

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times] As for some of the other fired Attorneys, at least one of their dismissals seemed to owe to differences with the Administration about the death penalty, another to questions about the Attorney's managerial skills. Not surprisingly, the dismissed Attorneys are insisting their dismissals were unfair, and perhaps in some cases they were. It would not be the first time in history that a dismissed employee did not take kindly to his firing, nor would it be the first in which an employer sacked the wrong person.[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]No question, the Justice Department and White House have botched the handling of this issue from start to finish. But what we don't have here is any serious evidence that the Administration has acted improperly or to protect some of its friends. If Democrats want to understand what a real abuse of power looks like, they can always ask the junior Senator from New York. [/FONT] [/FONT] <section:content_footer> </section:content_footer>







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frankjohnson

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Dirty actually knows about "standards." Impossible hypocrasy.
 

dirty

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Keep posting the best fades on the Net in NCAA Hoops room Frankie Pooh, you are making me a Bundle
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Dirty and standards. That's what they call an oxymoron.
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Keep posting the best fades on the Net in NCAA Hoops room Frankie Pooh, you are making me a Bundle

Not saying much about my pro picks are you dirty. You helped.
 

Doc Mercer

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Dirty .... you are in complete denial
 

Doc Mercer

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

So according to Gonzales US Attorneys are "Political Appointees" <table class="post-message" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="10" width="100%"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td width="1%">
</td> <td width="99%"> "Of course they'd be involved. These are political appointees." Gonzales said about the Administration. Is this correct? Are US Prosecutors now "political" appointees and does that mean that Democrats can never expect a fair and impartial trial? Just because the President makes the appointments does that necessarily mean they are "political" appointees? US Prosecutors should be as removed from politics as possible but apparently that is not the case any more..
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frankjohnson

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

A real tribute to his perversion, is that dirty actually thinks he's got room to criticize anyone.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

He DONT GRASP IT ....

it was at the beginning of Clintons 1st term and that is common practice
with all new administrations
 

gopherbob

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

gonzales fired his attorneys in the middle of their terms because they had the gaul to investigate republicans.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Plus didnt they want to attack Dems on bullshit voter fraud charges??
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Dirty .... you are in complete denial

He DONT GRASP IT ....

it was at the beginning of Clintons 1st term and that is common practice
with all new administrations

gonzales fired his attorneys in the middle of their terms because they had the gaul to investigate republicans.


Can you guys Not read....or choose not to


[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]At the time, President Clinton presented the move as something perfectly ordinary: "All those people are routinely replaced," he told reporters, "and I have not done anything differently." In fact, the dismissals were unprecedented: Previous Presidents, including Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter, had both retained holdovers from the previous Administration and only replaced them gradually as their tenures expired. This allowed continuity of leadership within the U.S. Attorney offices during the transition.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]Equally extraordinary were the politics at play in the firings. At the time, Jay Stephens, then U.S. Attorney in Chicago, was investigating then Ways and Means Chairman Dan Rostenkowski, and was "within 30 days" of making a decision on an indictment. Mr. Rostenkowski, who was shepherding the Clinton's economic program through Congress, eventually went to jail on mail fraud charges and was later pardoned by Mr. Clinton. [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Verdana, Times]Also at the time, allegations concerning some of the Clintons' Whitewater dealings were coming to a head. By dismissing all 93 U.S. Attorneys at once, the Clintons conveniently cleared the decks to appoint "Friend of Bill" Paula Casey as the U.S. Attorney for Little Rock. Ms. Casey never did bring any big Whitewater indictments, and she rejected information from another FOB, David Hale, on the business practices of the Arkansas elite including Mr. Clinton. When it comes to "politicizing" Justice, in short, the Bush White House is full of amateurs compared to the Clintons. [/FONT][/FONT]
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Dirty: A liar, a fraud, who rips others for being him. A man without a moral compass incapable of insight or honesty.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Frank who you on in NCAA tonite...I need to fatten my Bankroll
 

frankjohnson

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Frank who you on in NCAA tonite...I need to fatten my Bankroll

For a MOVER and shaker such as yourself I'd think you'd know tonight was the NIT. The ncaa tourney starts tomorrow. You still haven't explained how a fraud and pick pocket like yourself has room to talk about anyone.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Frank are all the teams in the NIT not a part of the NCAA you moron... They are still NCAA basketball games....god you are a baffoon idiot that has to be on some serious Drugs
 

Doc Mercer

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Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Dirty is losing it ....

the 4th Reich is going down in flames!!
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Nah..doc....you just wish... got my son's for the week and Baseball practice starts Friday...75 degrees and sunny here in GA... Life is well


But keep on wishing I care what you or Frankie Pooh or anyone else thinks if it makes you feel like a man


Life is well Doc...Have a great day
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Frank:

He mocked Max Cleland this week for losing limbs for picking up a gernade
while serving this country

He was busted on the main forum for finding it funny how dogs die violent
deaths in dog fights

He is clueless on the scandal involving the Judges by BUSHCO and his argument that "Clinton did the same thing" is laughable


SOMEONE THROW IN THE TOWEL BEFORE DIRTY REALLY GETS HURT
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Doc let me throw a Grenade at your feet.... Would you pick it up... If so you are a Moron and deserve what happens to you... if you run and still get Maimed then you are Heroic.... Picking up a grenade is Stupidity and has nothing to do with being a hero
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Cleland lost 3 limbs in service to this country ....

Leave it to you to mock this guy


CLASS ....REAL CLASSY!
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

what did I say that Mocked or Knocked his service to this country. Please show me where I bashed him or anything for serving this Country :whatever:



You can't .... Just you putting More words in People's Mouths that they don't say :thumbsup



I have always thought serving is admirable... But No matter what.. Picking up a Grenade is Stupid.. No matter if you served this country or not
 

frankjohnson

EOG Dedicated
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

A pickpocket thief and liar telling us who's ok and who's not.
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Hey Aretha Frankie Pooh :+waving-5:+waving-5:+waving-5


Whars dem fades :dancefool:dancefool:dancefool
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Doc here is the Reality of the Clinton Prosecutor Firings: The Hubbel STandard

Frank:

I just found and posted the Spears quote how "we should just trust President
Bush"


:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
 
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