This pictures says it all ...
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Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
You tell em ...
those 3 Nazis killed 3000 New Yorkers on the morning of 9-11
You tell em ...
those 3 Nazis killed 3000 New Yorkers on the morning of 9-11
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
really??
You are in the MINORITY anymore as only someone that is FLAPPIN DENSE
still believes the Neo Nazi story about 9-11
really??
You are in the MINORITY anymore as only someone that is FLAPPIN DENSE
still believes the Neo Nazi story about 9-11
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Every dog I've owned would be a favorite against your ass on jeopardy
Every dog I've owned would be a favorite against your ass on jeopardy
The General
Another Day, Another Dollar
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Other than in hopes of a prayer, do we know for sure?
Other than in hopes of a prayer, do we know for sure?
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
we do know that jet fuel did not take down the towers ....
They collapsed straight down like #7 and that was "pulled" and admitted
by Silverstein
we do know that jet fuel did not take down the towers ....
They collapsed straight down like #7 and that was "pulled" and admitted
by Silverstein
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Roscoe:
no way ... jet fuel kerosene can't burn hot enough to melt steel. Even if it could it doesn't explain the vaporization of the whole structure (as in a controlled imploded demolition). Bldg. 7 was the give away. Same implosion yet no crash only fire. No steel structure in the history of warfare or fire has ever collapsed like that UNLESS IT WAS IMPLODED
Roscoe:
no way ... jet fuel kerosene can't burn hot enough to melt steel. Even if it could it doesn't explain the vaporization of the whole structure (as in a controlled imploded demolition). Bldg. 7 was the give away. Same implosion yet no crash only fire. No steel structure in the history of warfare or fire has ever collapsed like that UNLESS IT WAS IMPLODED
Re: This pictures says it all ...
doc,there were alot of firsts that day!the steel did not melt, it just weakened.the fire retardent was knocked off with the impact of the jetliners.this had never happened before.when you try to bring up the empire state building,we both know that was a mostly concrete structure and a much smaller plane at a much slower speed.
doc,there were alot of firsts that day!the steel did not melt, it just weakened.the fire retardent was knocked off with the impact of the jetliners.this had never happened before.when you try to bring up the empire state building,we both know that was a mostly concrete structure and a much smaller plane at a much slower speed.
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
it weakended ....
it sure did after those 2 were pulled just like #7
sorry, Charlie .. they fell straight down and that dont happen unless rigged at the base
it weakended ....
it sure did after those 2 were pulled just like #7
sorry, Charlie .. they fell straight down and that dont happen unless rigged at the base
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Hello???
Let me guess .... not even Bush is dumb enough just to drop the WTC's
Go look at the closeups ... most of the fuel jet is deposited outside of the
WTC's and they fell identical to #7 --- and that was pulled as admitted
by Silverstein
Sorry .... keep believing that 19 Arabs with box cutters that cant fly
crop dusters could pull this off .... Please do as the Roves love selling this
shit
Hmmmm .... why did Bush fight so hard not to have a 9-11 committee and
then it turned out to be hand picked Bushies who left out a lot of info in
the 9-11 Report
Hello???
Let me guess .... not even Bush is dumb enough just to drop the WTC's
Go look at the closeups ... most of the fuel jet is deposited outside of the
WTC's and they fell identical to #7 --- and that was pulled as admitted
by Silverstein
Sorry .... keep believing that 19 Arabs with box cutters that cant fly
crop dusters could pull this off .... Please do as the Roves love selling this
shit
Hmmmm .... why did Bush fight so hard not to have a 9-11 committee and
then it turned out to be hand picked Bushies who left out a lot of info in
the 9-11 Report
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Jet fuel burns at 800? to 1500?F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750?F)
Jet fuel burns at 800? to 1500?F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750?F)
Re: This pictures says it all ...
you didn't answer the question. if the building is rigged with explosives why do you need planes to crash into it. also where is flight 77 that didn't hit the pentagon?
where is flight 93 that didn't crash in shanksville?please give me a rational explanation.
you didn't answer the question. if the building is rigged with explosives why do you need planes to crash into it. also where is flight 77 that didn't hit the pentagon?
where is flight 93 that didn't crash in shanksville?please give me a rational explanation.
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The official line is that the plane impacts plus fire caused the collapse of two sky-scrappers in less than a hour. [/FONT]
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</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316"> 1. The endo / exo-skeleton structure would not be compromised by even 2 airplane strikes per tower. The Empire State Building was hit by a bomber without causing any major structural damage. Historically, no high-rise has been significantly damaged by an airplane strike. The WTC was designed specifically with this in mind and was over engineered for extreme situations.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="294"> Their Position: alter the WTC center model without the 47 interior pillars.
</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="316"> Our Position: The airplanes nor the fires were the cause of the collapse.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="294">2. engineers attest that jet fuel cannot nearly create enough heat to even compromise the steel.</td> <td valign="top" width="316">2. Steel is a conductor of heat and any local heat disapates throughout the entire structure, failure by jet fuel fire is improbable. Also, they had recently upgraded the water sprinkling system.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: disregard engineering standards</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">Our Proof: Industry standards of melting points proves the fires were not hot enough to even compromise the steel. Eyewitnesses say there were only two pockets of mild fires.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="294">3. other buildings hit by planes and burning for days never collapsed.</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316"> 3. Steel high-rises or sky-scrappers do not succumb to fire.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: bigger planes, bigger buildings</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="316"> Our Proof: The WTC tower had caught on fire before and had burned for a day without any structural damage what-so-ever. No structural steel high-rise has even collapsed due to fire or air-plane strike.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="294">4. fire-fighters report only small pockets of fires that could be easily put out. </td> <td valign="top" width="316">4. Only small pockets of fires were a result. </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: disregard eyewitness testimony</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">Our Position: The fires were not the cause of the collapse of both towers in less than an hour.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="294">5. survivors are seen in the impact hole unaffected by the alleged white hot raging fires.</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316">5. The fires were only mild as reported.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: disregard </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="316">Our Position: The fires were not the cause of the collapse of both towers in less than an hour.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">6. molten "iron" pours like lava from the damaged corner </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">6. This is the result of demolition thermite molten iron.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: That was the melted airplane</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">Our Proof: melted airplane aluminum is silver grey like Mercury. Thermite produces red/orange molten metal and white ash smoke.</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294">7. Jet fuel burns at 1800 degress F. Yet pools of molten steel 2800 degrees F are found in WTC 1, 2 and 7 for weeks after. </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316">7.The entire center columns of both WTC's and building #7 would need to be sliced into 30' pieces. With 47 interior columns that's approximately 188 cuts with thermate producing large amounts of molten iron and steel at extremely high temperatures.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294"> Their Position: That was the melted airplane and steel.
Disregard building #7
</td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316">Our Proof: Thermite and sulfur together make a much hotter Thermate - this was found on WTC metal.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="294">8. concrete is pulverized into fine dust.</td> <td width="316">8. Only explosives and Superthermite is powerful enough to vaporize concrete into fine dust. </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: disregard</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316"> Our Position: Only volcanic flows and demolition produce pyroclastic flows like the ones seen during 911.
Our Proof: Physics also agrees that a structure can collapse from gravity or it can explode, there is not enough laten energy to do both. The WTC collapses do not conform to Natural Law. Eyewittnesses say only a CD sized piece of a telephone remained. Everything else was pulverized.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" height="30" valign="top" width="294"> 9. WTC 1, 2, and 7 all fall at near free fall speed voilating the laws of physics.
</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" height="30" valign="top" width="316"> 9. The WTC collapses did not violate physics or the Laws of Nature. A controlled demolition crippling each floor just before a pancaking impact, is the only way for a building to meet absolutely no resistance.
Take a quick test:
In the photo on the left, which piece would hit the ground first?
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: It was a pancaking. Disregard physics. Building #7 was an unknown anomaly.</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="316">Our Proof: An object cannot fall through 47 concrete reinforced steel columns as easily as it falls through thin air. Projections indicate that a natural collapse, albeit unheard of, would take at least 100 seconds and not the 9.6 seconds seen on 911.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="294"> 10. Chemical analysis of WTC steel shows sulfur enriched thermite or thermate and melted iron.
</td> <td valign="top" width="316">10. A combination of Thermite, Thermate and Superthermite were used to bring the WTC towers and building #7 down in their own footprints. Setting up the controlled demoltions would be unique and time consuming. Total access would need to be given for weeks. Bomb sniffing dogs could not be allowed access. The main foundational columns would need to be compromised and then the floors taken down in succession. The metal would then need to be removed and recycled without a criminal investigation. </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: N/A</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">Our Proof: Weeks prior to 911, major work crews had unlimited access. One week prior, bomb sniffing dogs, a standard safety precaution, stopped their routine. ? The WTC buildings came down by what can only be, by the laws of nature, a controlled implosion or a controlled demolition. ? The metal was illegally removed and specifically blocked from investigation. Thermate and molten iron was found on steel beams taken from the WTC.</td></tr></tbody></table>[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The official line is that the plane impacts plus fire caused the collapse of two sky-scrappers in less than a hour. [/FONT]
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Problems with the Offical Explaination:
</td> <td width="316"> Our Solution to the Problems:
</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294"> 1. Architects designed the building to take multiple impacts. The endo / exo-skeleton structure would not be compromised by even 2 airplane strikes and the floors were designed to take 10x the maximum load.</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316"> 1. The endo / exo-skeleton structure would not be compromised by even 2 airplane strikes per tower. The Empire State Building was hit by a bomber without causing any major structural damage. Historically, no high-rise has been significantly damaged by an airplane strike. The WTC was designed specifically with this in mind and was over engineered for extreme situations.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="294"> Their Position: alter the WTC center model without the 47 interior pillars.
</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="316"> Our Position: The airplanes nor the fires were the cause of the collapse.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="294">2. engineers attest that jet fuel cannot nearly create enough heat to even compromise the steel.</td> <td valign="top" width="316">2. Steel is a conductor of heat and any local heat disapates throughout the entire structure, failure by jet fuel fire is improbable. Also, they had recently upgraded the water sprinkling system.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: disregard engineering standards</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">Our Proof: Industry standards of melting points proves the fires were not hot enough to even compromise the steel. Eyewitnesses say there were only two pockets of mild fires.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="294">3. other buildings hit by planes and burning for days never collapsed.</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316"> 3. Steel high-rises or sky-scrappers do not succumb to fire.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: bigger planes, bigger buildings</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="316"> Our Proof: The WTC tower had caught on fire before and had burned for a day without any structural damage what-so-ever. No structural steel high-rise has even collapsed due to fire or air-plane strike.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="294">4. fire-fighters report only small pockets of fires that could be easily put out. </td> <td valign="top" width="316">4. Only small pockets of fires were a result. </td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: disregard eyewitness testimony</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">Our Position: The fires were not the cause of the collapse of both towers in less than an hour.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="294">5. survivors are seen in the impact hole unaffected by the alleged white hot raging fires.</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316">5. The fires were only mild as reported.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: disregard </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="316">Our Position: The fires were not the cause of the collapse of both towers in less than an hour.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">6. molten "iron" pours like lava from the damaged corner </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">6. This is the result of demolition thermite molten iron.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: That was the melted airplane</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">Our Proof: melted airplane aluminum is silver grey like Mercury. Thermite produces red/orange molten metal and white ash smoke.</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294">7. Jet fuel burns at 1800 degress F. Yet pools of molten steel 2800 degrees F are found in WTC 1, 2 and 7 for weeks after. </td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316">7.The entire center columns of both WTC's and building #7 would need to be sliced into 30' pieces. With 47 interior columns that's approximately 188 cuts with thermate producing large amounts of molten iron and steel at extremely high temperatures.</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294"> Their Position: That was the melted airplane and steel.
Disregard building #7
</td> <td align="left" bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="316">Our Proof: Thermite and sulfur together make a much hotter Thermate - this was found on WTC metal.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="294">8. concrete is pulverized into fine dust.</td> <td width="316">8. Only explosives and Superthermite is powerful enough to vaporize concrete into fine dust. </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: disregard</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316"> Our Position: Only volcanic flows and demolition produce pyroclastic flows like the ones seen during 911.
Our Proof: Physics also agrees that a structure can collapse from gravity or it can explode, there is not enough laten energy to do both. The WTC collapses do not conform to Natural Law. Eyewittnesses say only a CD sized piece of a telephone remained. Everything else was pulverized.
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" height="30" valign="top" width="294"> 9. WTC 1, 2, and 7 all fall at near free fall speed voilating the laws of physics.
</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" height="30" valign="top" width="316"> 9. The WTC collapses did not violate physics or the Laws of Nature. A controlled demolition crippling each floor just before a pancaking impact, is the only way for a building to meet absolutely no resistance.
Take a quick test:
In the photo on the left, which piece would hit the ground first?
</td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: It was a pancaking. Disregard physics. Building #7 was an unknown anomaly.</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffcc" width="316">Our Proof: An object cannot fall through 47 concrete reinforced steel columns as easily as it falls through thin air. Projections indicate that a natural collapse, albeit unheard of, would take at least 100 seconds and not the 9.6 seconds seen on 911.</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="294"> 10. Chemical analysis of WTC steel shows sulfur enriched thermite or thermate and melted iron.
</td> <td valign="top" width="316">10. A combination of Thermite, Thermate and Superthermite were used to bring the WTC towers and building #7 down in their own footprints. Setting up the controlled demoltions would be unique and time consuming. Total access would need to be given for weeks. Bomb sniffing dogs could not be allowed access. The main foundational columns would need to be compromised and then the floors taken down in succession. The metal would then need to be removed and recycled without a criminal investigation. </td> </tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" width="294">Their Position: N/A</td> <td bgcolor="#ffffff" width="316">Our Proof: Weeks prior to 911, major work crews had unlimited access. One week prior, bomb sniffing dogs, a standard safety precaution, stopped their routine. ? The WTC buildings came down by what can only be, by the laws of nature, a controlled implosion or a controlled demolition. ? The metal was illegally removed and specifically blocked from investigation. Thermate and molten iron was found on steel beams taken from the WTC.</td></tr></tbody></table>[/FONT]
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Sure ....
show some intelligence as the only OUTRIGHT LIES are from Bush
My god ... Did Dirty raise you???
Sure ....
show some intelligence as the only OUTRIGHT LIES are from Bush
My god ... Did Dirty raise you???
The Devil
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Our Proof: Weeks prior to 911, major work crews had unlimited access. One week prior, bomb sniffing dogs, a standard safety precaution, stopped their routine. • The WTC buildings came down by what can only be, by the laws of nature, a controlled implosion or a controlled demolition. • The metal was illegally removed and specifically blocked from investigation. Thermate and molten iron was found on steel beams taken from the WTC.
DOC, IF THE METAL WAS ILLEGALLY REMOVED AND SPECIFICALLY BLOCKED FROM INVESTIGATION..............WHO THE HELL FOUND THE THERMATE AND MOLTEN IRON..............BET YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT MISTER MERCER......
DOC IF A 20 FOOT RYDER TRUCK LOADED WITH EXPLOSIVES COULDN'T BRING DOWN 1 TOWER IN 93, TELL ME HOW MANY TRUCK LOADS OF HIGH EXPLOSIVES THEY HAD TO SMUGGLE IN TO TAKE DOWN BOTH TOWERS......THAT'S A LOT OF BACKPACKS DOC.......
Our Proof: Weeks prior to 911, major work crews had unlimited access. One week prior, bomb sniffing dogs, a standard safety precaution, stopped their routine. • The WTC buildings came down by what can only be, by the laws of nature, a controlled implosion or a controlled demolition. • The metal was illegally removed and specifically blocked from investigation. Thermate and molten iron was found on steel beams taken from the WTC.
DOC, IF THE METAL WAS ILLEGALLY REMOVED AND SPECIFICALLY BLOCKED FROM INVESTIGATION..............WHO THE HELL FOUND THE THERMATE AND MOLTEN IRON..............BET YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT MISTER MERCER......
DOC IF A 20 FOOT RYDER TRUCK LOADED WITH EXPLOSIVES COULDN'T BRING DOWN 1 TOWER IN 93, TELL ME HOW MANY TRUCK LOADS OF HIGH EXPLOSIVES THEY HAD TO SMUGGLE IN TO TAKE DOWN BOTH TOWERS......THAT'S A LOT OF BACKPACKS DOC.......
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Einsteinless:
go do your homework for once and look up Marvin Bush and the activites going around and in the WTCs weeks and days before 9-11
Einsteinless:
go do your homework for once and look up Marvin Bush and the activites going around and in the WTCs weeks and days before 9-11
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Roscoe:
Dirty attacks American Vets and laughs about dogs dying violent deaths so
he has little if any credibility ... hell, he thinks the NAU pact aint real and
has told Y the NWO does not exsist
SHEEP aint real sharp and we see it here every day ....
Roscoe:
Dirty attacks American Vets and laughs about dogs dying violent deaths so
he has little if any credibility ... hell, he thinks the NAU pact aint real and
has told Y the NWO does not exsist
SHEEP aint real sharp and we see it here every day ....
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Roscoe:
hmmmm .... not ONE SINGLE ARAB ON THE PASSENGER LISTS OR ANY OF THE
AUTOPSYS?? PLEASE EXPLAIN .....
Roscoe:
hmmmm .... not ONE SINGLE ARAB ON THE PASSENGER LISTS OR ANY OF THE
AUTOPSYS?? PLEASE EXPLAIN .....
The Devil
EOG Master
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
If you think "fires" took down the WTCS .. sure they did:
Underground fires raged for months. O'Toole remembers in February [2002] seeing a crane lift a steel beam vertically from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero. "It was dripping from the molten steel," he said. [Philadelphia Inquirer]
Five months after the collapses molten steel was being pulled from deep in the wreckage.
Conventional fires cannot explain the above, but thermite can.
A thermite reaction generates extraordinarily high temperatures (>2500? C) and provides a credible explanation for the fires, hot spots and molten steel (a by-product of the thermite reaction) found in the collapsed buildings - they were a result of thermite detonations in the buildings on 9/11.
If you think "fires" took down the WTCS .. sure they did:
Underground fires raged for months. O'Toole remembers in February [2002] seeing a crane lift a steel beam vertically from deep within the catacombs of Ground Zero. "It was dripping from the molten steel," he said. [Philadelphia Inquirer]
Five months after the collapses molten steel was being pulled from deep in the wreckage.
Conventional fires cannot explain the above, but thermite can.
A thermite reaction generates extraordinarily high temperatures (>2500? C) and provides a credible explanation for the fires, hot spots and molten steel (a by-product of the thermite reaction) found in the collapsed buildings - they were a result of thermite detonations in the buildings on 9/11.
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Ros coe: sure they did ... same folks that claim Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9-11??
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Now Updated: No Arabs on Flight 77: Part II -The Passengers
I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute observers noticed right away that there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that ?crashed? on that day. <table align="right" border="5" width="20%"> <tbody><tr> <td height="15">
When airline disasters occur, airlines will routinely provide a manifest list for anxious families. You may have noticed that even before Sep 11th, that airlines are pretty meticulous about getting an accurate headcount before takeoff. It seems very unlikely to me, that five Arabs sneaked onto a flight with weapons.
This is the list provided by American of the 56 passengers:
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]On September 27th, the FBI published photos of the ?hijackers? of Flight 77:
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Ros coe: sure they did ... same folks that claim Bin Laden had nothing to do with 9-11??
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Now Updated: No Arabs on Flight 77: Part II -The Passengers
I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute observers noticed right away that there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that ?crashed? on that day. <table align="right" border="5" width="20%"> <tbody><tr> <td height="15">
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When airline disasters occur, airlines will routinely provide a manifest list for anxious families. You may have noticed that even before Sep 11th, that airlines are pretty meticulous about getting an accurate headcount before takeoff. It seems very unlikely to me, that five Arabs sneaked onto a flight with weapons.
This is the list provided by American of the 56 passengers:
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]No Arabs wound up on the morgue slab; however, three ADDITIONAL people not listed by American Airline sneaked in. I have seen no explanation for these extras. I did give American the opportunity to ?revise? their original list, but they have not responded. The new names are: Robert Ploger, Zandra Ploger, and Sandra Teague. The AFIP claims that the only ?passenger? body that they were not able to identify is the toddler, Dana Falkenberg, whose parents and young sister are on the list of those identified. The satanic masterminds behind this caper may be feeling pretty smug about the perfect crime, but they have left a raft of clues tying these unfortunates together. Stay tuned for part two to take a much closer look of the cast of characters on this ill-fated flight.[/SIZE][/FONT]<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td>
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Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Roscoe: where are the Arabs? NOT ONE ARAB!!
[SIZE=+1]AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11[/SIZE]
American Airlines Flight 11, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center with 86 people on board, none of whom were alleged hijackers or Arabs
CREW
John Ogonowski, 52, of Dracut, Massachusetts, was the pilot of Flight 11. A lifelong aviation buff, he joined the Air Force after graduating from college and flew planes at the close of the Vietnam War. He joined American Airlines in 1979.
First Officer Thomas McGuinness, 42, of Portsmouth, New Hampshire, was Flight 11's co-pilot.
Barbara Arestegui, 38, was a flight attendant from Marstons Mills, Massachusetts.
Jeffrey Collman was a flight attendant.
Sara Low, 28, was a flight attendant from Batesville, Arkansas.
Karen Martin was a flight attendant.
Kathleen Nicosia was a flight attendant.
Betty Ong, 45, was a flight attendant from Andover, Massachusetts.
Jean Roger, 24, was a flight attendant from Longmeadow, Massachusetts.
Dianne Snyder, 42, was a flight attendant from Westport, Massachusetts.
Madeline Sweeney, 35, was a flight attendant from Acton, Massachusetts.
PASSENGERS
Anna Williams Allison, 48, of Stoneham, Massachusetts, was the founder of A2 Software Solutions. ,
David Angell, 54, of Pasadena, California, was the creator and executive producer of the hit NBC sitcom "Frasier."
Lynn Angell, 45, of Pasadena, California, was the wife of "Frasier" creator and executive producer David Angell.
Seima Aoyama
Myra Aronson, 52, of Charlestown, Massachusetts, was a press and analyst relations manager for Compuware Corp.
Christine Barbuto, 32, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a buyer for TJX Cos.
Berry Berenson, 53, of Los Angeles, California, was an actress and photographer.
Carolyn Beug, 48, of Los Angeles, California.
Carol Bouchard, 43, of Warwick, Rhode Island, was a Kent County Hospital emergency room secretary.
Robin Caplin was from Natick, Massachusetts.
Neilie Casey, 32, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a merchandise planning manager for TJX Cos.,
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, of Abington, Massachusetts, was a security analyst for Compaq Computer. H
Tara Creamer, 30, of Worcester, Massachusetts, was a merchandise planning manager for TJX Cos.
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, was a Wilmot, New Hampshire, resident with 10 grandchildren.
Patrick Currivan
Andrew Curry Green was from Chelmsford, Massachusetts.
Brian Dale, 43, of Warren, New Jersey, was an accountant and attorney with Blue Capital Management.
David DiMeglio was from Wakefield, Massachusetts.
Donald Ditullio, 49, was from Peabody, Massachusetts.
Albert Dominguez, 66, was a baggage handler for Qantas Airways in Sydney, Australia.
Alex Filipov, 70, was an electrical engineer from Concord, Massachusetts.
Carol Flyzik, 40, was from Plaistow, New Hampshire.
Paul Friedman, 45, from Belmont, Massachusetts, was a consultant for Emergence Consulting.
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a senior investment analyst for John Hancock.
Peter Gay, 54, of Tewksbury, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co. vice president of operations for electronic systems based in Andover, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for more than 28 years.
Linda George, 27, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a buyer for TJX Cos.
Edmund Glazer, 41, of Los Angeles, California, was the chief financial officer of MRV Communications.
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, of Needham, Massachusetts, was an assistant vice president, for TJX Cos.
Paige Farley Hackel, 46, was a spiritual adviser from Newton, Massachusetts.
Peter Hashem, 40, was an engineer from Tewksbury, Massachusetts.
Robert Hayes, 37, from Amesbury, Massachusetts was a sales engineer with Netstal.
Ted Hennessy, 35, was a consultant for Emergence Consulting in Belmont, Massachusetts.
John Hofer
Cora Holland, 52, of Sudbury, Massachusetts, was with Sudbury Food Pantry.
Nicholas Humber, 60, of Newton, Massachusetts, was the owner of Brae Burn Management.
John Jenkins
Charles Jones, 48, was a computer programmer from Bedford, Massachusetts.
Robin Kaplan, 33, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a senior store equipment specialist for TJX Cos.
Barbara Keating, 72, was from Palm Springs, California.
David Kovalcin, 42, of Hudson, New Hampshire, was a Raytheon Co. senior mechanical engineer.
Judy Larocque, 50, of Framingham, Massachusetts, was the founder and CEO of Market Perspectives.
Jude Larson, 31, was from Los Angeles, California.
Natalie Larson was from Los Angeles, California.
N. Janis Lasden, 46, of General Electric was from Peabody, Massachusetts.
Daniel John Lee, 34, was from Los Angeles, California.
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, was the co-founder and chief technology officer at Akamai Technologies Inc.
Susan MacKay, 44, of Westford, Massachusetts, was an employee of TJX Cos.
Chris Mello, 25, was a financial analyst with Alta Communications from Boston.
Jeff Mladenik, 43, of Hinsdale, Illinois, was the interim president at E-Logic.
Antonio Montoya
Carlos Montoya
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, was the Qantas Airways area sales manager in Boston. She lived in Framingham, Mass.
Mildred Naiman was from Andover, Massachusetts.
Laurie Neira
Renee Newell, 37, of Cranston, Rhode Island, was a customer service agent with American Airlines.
Jacqueline Norton, 60, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. She was traveling with her husband, Robert Norton.
Robert Norton, 82, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. He was traveling with his wife, Jacqueline Norton.
Jane Orth, 49, of Haverhill, Massachusetts, was retired from Lucent Technology.
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, of Los Angeles, California, was a cameraman for Fox Sports and E! Entertainment Television.
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, of Dover, Massachusetts, was a retired ballet dancer.
David Retik was from Needham, Massachusetts. He was a general partner of Alta Communications.
Philip Rosenzweig of Acton, Massachusetts, was an executive with Sun Microsystems.
Richard Ross, 58, of Newton, Massachusetts, headed his own management consulting company, the Ross Group.
Jessica Sachs, 22, of Billerica, Massachusetts was an accountant with PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Rahma Salie, 28, was from Boston.
Heather Smith, 30, of Beacon Capital Partners was from Boston.
Douglas Stone, 54, was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Xavier Suarez
Michael Theodoridis, 32, was a consultant from Boston.
James Trentini, 65, was a retired teacher and assistant principal from Everett, Massachusetts.
Mary Trentini, 67, was a retired secretary from Everett, Massachusetts.
Mary Wahlstrom, 75, of Kaysville, Utah, was traveling with her daughter, Carolyn Beug.
Kenneth Waldie, 46, of Methuen, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co. senior quality control engineer.
John Wenckus, 46, was a tax consultant from Torrance, California.
Candace Lee Williams, 20, was a student from Danbury, Connecticut.
Christopher Zarba, 47, of Hopkinton, Massachusetts, was a software engineer at Concord Communications.
[SIZE=+1]AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77[/SIZE]
American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 56 people aboard, none of whom were alleged hijackers or Arabs.
CREW
Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight.
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. S
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.
PASSENGERS
Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
M.J. Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington.
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.
Dee Flagg
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding.
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, worked for a biotech firm.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
John Sammartino
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng
[SIZE=+1]UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175[/SIZE]
United Airlines Flight 175, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, was the second hijacked plane to strike the World Trade Center South Tower) with 56 people on board. No alleged hikackers or anyone of Arab name or obvious descent.
CREW
Capt. Victor Saracini, 51, of Lower Makefield Township, Pennsylvania, was a Navy veteran.
Michael Horrocks was first officer.
Robert J. Fangman was a flight attendant.
Amy N. Jarret, 28, of North Smithfield, Rhode Island, was a flight attendant.
Amy R. King was a flight attendant.
Kathryn L. Laborie was a flight attendant.
Alfred G. Marchand of Alamogordo, New Mexico, was a flight attendant.
Michael C. Tarrou was a flight attendant.
Alicia N. Titus was a flight atteandant.
PASSENGERS
Alona Avraham, 30, was from Ashdot, Israel.
Garnet "Ace" Bailey, 53, of Lynnfield, Massachusetts, was director of pro scouting for the Los Angeles Kings hockey team. Mark Bavis, 31, of West Newton, Massachusetts.
Graham Berkeley, 37, of Xerox Corp. was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Touri Bolourchi, 69, was from Beverly Hills, California.
Klaus Bothe, 31, of Germany was on a business trip with BCT Technology AG's chief executive officer.
Daniel Brandhorst, of Los Angeles, California, was a lawyer for PriceWaterhouse.
David Brandhorst, 3, was from Los Angeles.
John Cahill was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Christoffer Carstanjen, 33, of Turner Falls, Massachusetts, was staff assistant in the office of information technology at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst.
John Corcoran "Jay" Corcoran, 44, of Norwell, Massachusetts, was a merchant marine.
Dorothy Dearaujo, 82, was from Long Beach, California.
Gloria Debarrera
Lisa Frost, 22, of Rancho Santa Margarita, California, graduated from Boston University this year.
Ronald Gamboa, 33, of Los Angeles, California, was a Gap store manager.
Lynn Goodchild, 25, was from Attleboro, Massachusetts.
The Rev. Francis E. Grogan, 76, of Easton, Massachusetts, was a priest at Holy Cross Church in Easton.
Carl Hammond, 37, was from Boston, Massachusetts.
Peter Hanson, 32, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a software salesman.
Susan Hanson, 35, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a student.
Christine Hanson, 3, was from Groton, Massachusetts.
Gerald Hardacre
Eric Hartono
James E. Hayden, 47, of Westford, Massachusetts, was the chief financial officer of Netegrity Inc.
Herbert Homer,48, of Milford, Massachusetts, worked for Raytheon Co.
Robert Jalbert, 61, of Swampscott, Massachusetts, was a salesman.
Ralph Kershaw, 52, of Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts, was a marine surveyor.
Heinrich Kimmig, 43, chairman and chief executive officer of BCT Technology Ag, of Germany.
Brian Kinney, 29, of Lowell, Massachusetts, was an auditor for PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Robert LeBlanc, 70, of Lee, New Hampshire, was a professor emeritus of geography at the University of New Hampshire.
Maclovio "Joe" Lopez Jr., 41, was from Norwalk, California.
Marianne MacFarlane
Louis Neil Mariani, 59, was from Derry, New Hampshire.
Juliana Valentine McCourt, 4, was from New London, Connecticut.
Ruth McCourt, 24, was from Westford, Massachusetts.
Wolfgang Menzel, 60, of Germany joined BCT Technology AG in 2000 as director of human resources. He is survived by his wife and one child. Menzel had planned to retire in six months.
Shawn Nassaney, 25, was from Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
Patrick Quigley, 40, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a partner at PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Frederick Rimmele was a physician from Marblehead, Massachusetts.
James M. Roux, 42, was from Portland, Maine.
Jesus Sanchez, 45, was an off-duty flight attendant from Hudson, Massachusetts.
Kathleen Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Robert Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Jane Simpkin, 35, was from Wayland, Massachusetts.
Brian D. Sweeney, 38, was from Barnstable, Massachusetts.
Timothy Ward, 38, of San Diego, California, worked at the Carlsbad, California-based Rubio's Restaurants Inc.
William Weems of Marblehead, Massachusetts, was a commercial producer.
[SIZE=+1]UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93[/SIZE]
United Airlines Flight 93, from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, California, crashed in rural southwest Pennsylvania, with 45 people on board, none of whom were alleged hijackers or Arabs.
CREW
Jason Dahl, 43, from Denver, Colorado, was the plane's captain.
Leroy Homer, 36, from Marlton, New Jersey, was the first officer on board.
Lorraine Bay was a flight attendant.
Sandra Bradshaw, 38, of Greensboro, North Carolina, was a flight attendant.
Wanda Green was a flight attendant.
CeeCee Lyles of Fort Myers, Florida, was a flight attendant.
Deborah Welsh was a flight attendant.
PASSENGERS
Christian Adams
Todd Beamer, 32, was from Cranbury, New Jersey.
Alan Beaven, 48, of Oakland, California, was an environmental lawyer.
Mark Bingham, 31, of San Francisco owned a public relations firm, the Bingham Group.
Deora Bodley, 20, of Santa Clara, California, was a university student.
Marion Britton
Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, of San Ramon, California.
William Cashman
Georgine Corrigan
Joseph Deluca
Patrick Driscoll
Edward Felt, 41, was from Matawan, New Jersey.
Colleen Fraser
Andrew Garcia
Jeremy Glick, 31, from West Milford, New Jersey.
Lauren Grandcolas of San Rafael, California, was a sales worker at Good Housekeeping magazine.
Donald F. Green, 52, was from Greenwich, Connecticut.
Linda Gronlund
Richard Guadagno, 38, of Eureka, California, was the manager of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's Humboldt Bay National Wildlife Refuge.
Toshiya Kuge
Waleska Martinez
Nicole Miller
Mark Rothenberg
Christine Snyder, 32, was from Kailua, Hawaii. She was an arborist for the Outdoor Circle.
John Talignani
Honor Wainio
Roscoe: where are the Arabs? NOT ONE ARAB!!
[SIZE=+1]AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11[/SIZE]
American Airlines Flight 11, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, crashed into the north tower of the World Trade Center with 86 people on board, none of whom were alleged hijackers or Arabs
CREW
John Ogonowski, 52, of Dracut, Massachusetts, was the pilot of Flight 11. A lifelong aviation buff, he joined the Air Force after graduating from college and flew planes at the close of the Vietnam War. He joined American Airlines in 1979.
First Officer Thomas McGuinness, 42, of Portsmouth, New Hampshire, was Flight 11's co-pilot.
Barbara Arestegui, 38, was a flight attendant from Marstons Mills, Massachusetts.
Jeffrey Collman was a flight attendant.
Sara Low, 28, was a flight attendant from Batesville, Arkansas.
Karen Martin was a flight attendant.
Kathleen Nicosia was a flight attendant.
Betty Ong, 45, was a flight attendant from Andover, Massachusetts.
Jean Roger, 24, was a flight attendant from Longmeadow, Massachusetts.
Dianne Snyder, 42, was a flight attendant from Westport, Massachusetts.
Madeline Sweeney, 35, was a flight attendant from Acton, Massachusetts.
PASSENGERS
Anna Williams Allison, 48, of Stoneham, Massachusetts, was the founder of A2 Software Solutions. ,
David Angell, 54, of Pasadena, California, was the creator and executive producer of the hit NBC sitcom "Frasier."
Lynn Angell, 45, of Pasadena, California, was the wife of "Frasier" creator and executive producer David Angell.
Seima Aoyama
Myra Aronson, 52, of Charlestown, Massachusetts, was a press and analyst relations manager for Compuware Corp.
Christine Barbuto, 32, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a buyer for TJX Cos.
Berry Berenson, 53, of Los Angeles, California, was an actress and photographer.
Carolyn Beug, 48, of Los Angeles, California.
Carol Bouchard, 43, of Warwick, Rhode Island, was a Kent County Hospital emergency room secretary.
Robin Caplin was from Natick, Massachusetts.
Neilie Casey, 32, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a merchandise planning manager for TJX Cos.,
Jeffrey Coombs, 42, of Abington, Massachusetts, was a security analyst for Compaq Computer. H
Tara Creamer, 30, of Worcester, Massachusetts, was a merchandise planning manager for TJX Cos.
Thelma Cuccinello, 71, was a Wilmot, New Hampshire, resident with 10 grandchildren.
Patrick Currivan
Andrew Curry Green was from Chelmsford, Massachusetts.
Brian Dale, 43, of Warren, New Jersey, was an accountant and attorney with Blue Capital Management.
David DiMeglio was from Wakefield, Massachusetts.
Donald Ditullio, 49, was from Peabody, Massachusetts.
Albert Dominguez, 66, was a baggage handler for Qantas Airways in Sydney, Australia.
Alex Filipov, 70, was an electrical engineer from Concord, Massachusetts.
Carol Flyzik, 40, was from Plaistow, New Hampshire.
Paul Friedman, 45, from Belmont, Massachusetts, was a consultant for Emergence Consulting.
Karleton D.B. Fyfe, 31, of Brookline, Massachusetts, was a senior investment analyst for John Hancock.
Peter Gay, 54, of Tewksbury, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co. vice president of operations for electronic systems based in Andover, Massachusetts. He had worked for Raytheon for more than 28 years.
Linda George, 27, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a buyer for TJX Cos.
Edmund Glazer, 41, of Los Angeles, California, was the chief financial officer of MRV Communications.
Lisa Fenn Gordenstein, 41, of Needham, Massachusetts, was an assistant vice president, for TJX Cos.
Paige Farley Hackel, 46, was a spiritual adviser from Newton, Massachusetts.
Peter Hashem, 40, was an engineer from Tewksbury, Massachusetts.
Robert Hayes, 37, from Amesbury, Massachusetts was a sales engineer with Netstal.
Ted Hennessy, 35, was a consultant for Emergence Consulting in Belmont, Massachusetts.
John Hofer
Cora Holland, 52, of Sudbury, Massachusetts, was with Sudbury Food Pantry.
Nicholas Humber, 60, of Newton, Massachusetts, was the owner of Brae Burn Management.
John Jenkins
Charles Jones, 48, was a computer programmer from Bedford, Massachusetts.
Robin Kaplan, 33, of Westboro, Massachusetts, was a senior store equipment specialist for TJX Cos.
Barbara Keating, 72, was from Palm Springs, California.
David Kovalcin, 42, of Hudson, New Hampshire, was a Raytheon Co. senior mechanical engineer.
Judy Larocque, 50, of Framingham, Massachusetts, was the founder and CEO of Market Perspectives.
Jude Larson, 31, was from Los Angeles, California.
Natalie Larson was from Los Angeles, California.
N. Janis Lasden, 46, of General Electric was from Peabody, Massachusetts.
Daniel John Lee, 34, was from Los Angeles, California.
Daniel C. Lewin, 31, was the co-founder and chief technology officer at Akamai Technologies Inc.
Susan MacKay, 44, of Westford, Massachusetts, was an employee of TJX Cos.
Chris Mello, 25, was a financial analyst with Alta Communications from Boston.
Jeff Mladenik, 43, of Hinsdale, Illinois, was the interim president at E-Logic.
Antonio Montoya
Carlos Montoya
Laura Lee Morabito, 34, was the Qantas Airways area sales manager in Boston. She lived in Framingham, Mass.
Mildred Naiman was from Andover, Massachusetts.
Laurie Neira
Renee Newell, 37, of Cranston, Rhode Island, was a customer service agent with American Airlines.
Jacqueline Norton, 60, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. She was traveling with her husband, Robert Norton.
Robert Norton, 82, was a retiree from Lubec, Maine. He was traveling with his wife, Jacqueline Norton.
Jane Orth, 49, of Haverhill, Massachusetts, was retired from Lucent Technology.
Thomas Pecorelli, 31, of Los Angeles, California, was a cameraman for Fox Sports and E! Entertainment Television.
Sonia Morales Puopolo, 58, of Dover, Massachusetts, was a retired ballet dancer.
David Retik was from Needham, Massachusetts. He was a general partner of Alta Communications.
Philip Rosenzweig of Acton, Massachusetts, was an executive with Sun Microsystems.
Richard Ross, 58, of Newton, Massachusetts, headed his own management consulting company, the Ross Group.
Jessica Sachs, 22, of Billerica, Massachusetts was an accountant with PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Rahma Salie, 28, was from Boston.
Heather Smith, 30, of Beacon Capital Partners was from Boston.
Douglas Stone, 54, was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Xavier Suarez
Michael Theodoridis, 32, was a consultant from Boston.
James Trentini, 65, was a retired teacher and assistant principal from Everett, Massachusetts.
Mary Trentini, 67, was a retired secretary from Everett, Massachusetts.
Mary Wahlstrom, 75, of Kaysville, Utah, was traveling with her daughter, Carolyn Beug.
Kenneth Waldie, 46, of Methuen, Massachusetts, was a Raytheon Co. senior quality control engineer.
John Wenckus, 46, was a tax consultant from Torrance, California.
Candace Lee Williams, 20, was a student from Danbury, Connecticut.
Christopher Zarba, 47, of Hopkinton, Massachusetts, was a software engineer at Concord Communications.
[SIZE=+1]AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77[/SIZE]
American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 56 people aboard, none of whom were alleged hijackers or Arabs.
CREW
Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight.
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. S
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.
PASSENGERS
Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
M.J. Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington.
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.
Dee Flagg
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding.
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, worked for a biotech firm.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
John Sammartino
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng
[SIZE=+1]UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175[/SIZE]
United Airlines Flight 175, from Boston, Massachusetts, to Los Angeles, California, was the second hijacked plane to strike the World Trade Center South Tower) with 56 people on board. No alleged hikackers or anyone of Arab name or obvious descent.
CREW
Capt. Victor Saracini, 51, of Lower Makefield Township, Pennsylvania, was a Navy veteran.
Michael Horrocks was first officer.
Robert J. Fangman was a flight attendant.
Amy N. Jarret, 28, of North Smithfield, Rhode Island, was a flight attendant.
Amy R. King was a flight attendant.
Kathryn L. Laborie was a flight attendant.
Alfred G. Marchand of Alamogordo, New Mexico, was a flight attendant.
Michael C. Tarrou was a flight attendant.
Alicia N. Titus was a flight atteandant.
PASSENGERS
Alona Avraham, 30, was from Ashdot, Israel.
Garnet "Ace" Bailey, 53, of Lynnfield, Massachusetts, was director of pro scouting for the Los Angeles Kings hockey team. Mark Bavis, 31, of West Newton, Massachusetts.
Graham Berkeley, 37, of Xerox Corp. was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Touri Bolourchi, 69, was from Beverly Hills, California.
Klaus Bothe, 31, of Germany was on a business trip with BCT Technology AG's chief executive officer.
Daniel Brandhorst, of Los Angeles, California, was a lawyer for PriceWaterhouse.
David Brandhorst, 3, was from Los Angeles.
John Cahill was from Wellesley, Massachusetts.
Christoffer Carstanjen, 33, of Turner Falls, Massachusetts, was staff assistant in the office of information technology at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst.
John Corcoran "Jay" Corcoran, 44, of Norwell, Massachusetts, was a merchant marine.
Dorothy Dearaujo, 82, was from Long Beach, California.
Gloria Debarrera
Lisa Frost, 22, of Rancho Santa Margarita, California, graduated from Boston University this year.
Ronald Gamboa, 33, of Los Angeles, California, was a Gap store manager.
Lynn Goodchild, 25, was from Attleboro, Massachusetts.
The Rev. Francis E. Grogan, 76, of Easton, Massachusetts, was a priest at Holy Cross Church in Easton.
Carl Hammond, 37, was from Boston, Massachusetts.
Peter Hanson, 32, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a software salesman.
Susan Hanson, 35, of Groton, Massachusetts, was a student.
Christine Hanson, 3, was from Groton, Massachusetts.
Gerald Hardacre
Eric Hartono
James E. Hayden, 47, of Westford, Massachusetts, was the chief financial officer of Netegrity Inc.
Herbert Homer,48, of Milford, Massachusetts, worked for Raytheon Co.
Robert Jalbert, 61, of Swampscott, Massachusetts, was a salesman.
Ralph Kershaw, 52, of Manchester-by-the-Sea, Massachusetts, was a marine surveyor.
Heinrich Kimmig, 43, chairman and chief executive officer of BCT Technology Ag, of Germany.
Brian Kinney, 29, of Lowell, Massachusetts, was an auditor for PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Robert LeBlanc, 70, of Lee, New Hampshire, was a professor emeritus of geography at the University of New Hampshire.
Maclovio "Joe" Lopez Jr., 41, was from Norwalk, California.
Marianne MacFarlane
Louis Neil Mariani, 59, was from Derry, New Hampshire.
Juliana Valentine McCourt, 4, was from New London, Connecticut.
Ruth McCourt, 24, was from Westford, Massachusetts.
Wolfgang Menzel, 60, of Germany joined BCT Technology AG in 2000 as director of human resources. He is survived by his wife and one child. Menzel had planned to retire in six months.
Shawn Nassaney, 25, was from Pawtucket, Rhode Island.
Patrick Quigley, 40, of Wellesley, Massachusetts, was a partner at PriceWaterhouse Cooper.
Frederick Rimmele was a physician from Marblehead, Massachusetts.
James M. Roux, 42, was from Portland, Maine.
Jesus Sanchez, 45, was an off-duty flight attendant from Hudson, Massachusetts.
Kathleen Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Robert Shearer was from Dover, New Hampshire.
Jane Simpkin, 35, was from Wayland, Massachusetts.
Brian D. Sweeney, 38, was from Barnstable, Massachusetts.
Timothy Ward, 38, of San Diego, California, worked at the Carlsbad, California-based Rubio's Restaurants Inc.
William Weems of Marblehead, Massachusetts, was a commercial producer.
[SIZE=+1]UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93[/SIZE]
United Airlines Flight 93, from Newark, New Jersey, to San Francisco, California, crashed in rural southwest Pennsylvania, with 45 people on board, none of whom were alleged hijackers or Arabs.
CREW
Jason Dahl, 43, from Denver, Colorado, was the plane's captain.
Leroy Homer, 36, from Marlton, New Jersey, was the first officer on board.
Lorraine Bay was a flight attendant.
Sandra Bradshaw, 38, of Greensboro, North Carolina, was a flight attendant.
Wanda Green was a flight attendant.
CeeCee Lyles of Fort Myers, Florida, was a flight attendant.
Deborah Welsh was a flight attendant.
PASSENGERS
Christian Adams
Todd Beamer, 32, was from Cranbury, New Jersey.
Alan Beaven, 48, of Oakland, California, was an environmental lawyer.
Mark Bingham, 31, of San Francisco owned a public relations firm, the Bingham Group.
Deora Bodley, 20, of Santa Clara, California, was a university student.
Marion Britton
Thomas E. Burnett Jr., 38, of San Ramon, California.
William Cashman
Georgine Corrigan
Joseph Deluca
Patrick Driscoll
Edward Felt, 41, was from Matawan, New Jersey.
Colleen Fraser
Andrew Garcia
Jeremy Glick, 31, from West Milford, New Jersey.
Lauren Grandcolas of San Rafael, California, was a sales worker at Good Housekeeping magazine.
Donald F. Green, 52, was from Greenwich, Connecticut.
Linda Gronlund
Richard Guadagno, 38, of Eureka, California, was the manager of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service's Humboldt Bay National Wildlife Refuge.
Toshiya Kuge
Waleska Martinez
Nicole Miller
Mark Rothenberg
Christine Snyder, 32, was from Kailua, Hawaii. She was an arborist for the Outdoor Circle.
John Talignani
Honor Wainio
Re: This pictures says it all ...
A sick mother fucker DOC is ... no doubt. Seek Help man.
A sick mother fucker DOC is ... no doubt. Seek Help man.
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Right ... coming from a man who supports a man who murdered 2 folks in cold blood
Right ... coming from a man who supports a man who murdered 2 folks in cold blood
The Devil
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
DOC, I BELIEVE THE REASON MAY BE THAT WE ARE NOT COUNTING THE TERRORISTS IN THE DEAD COUNT........WHAT EVER THE NUMBER OF LISTED DEAD FOR 9-11 IS (2871?) WOULD BE 19 HIGHER.....
NOT 100 PERCENT SURE ABOUT THIS......BUT YOU KNOW I AM USUALLY RIGHT..........
DOC, I BELIEVE THE REASON MAY BE THAT WE ARE NOT COUNTING THE TERRORISTS IN THE DEAD COUNT........WHAT EVER THE NUMBER OF LISTED DEAD FOR 9-11 IS (2871?) WOULD BE 19 HIGHER.....
NOT 100 PERCENT SURE ABOUT THIS......BUT YOU KNOW I AM USUALLY RIGHT..........
The Devil
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
Wikpedia lists victims by country, and excludes the terrorists, which
references 236 foreigners that died in the attack:
Non-American casualties of the September 11, 2001 Attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-American_casualties_of_the_September_11%2C_2001_Attacks
TOTAL COUNT 2,976
minus foreigners - 236
AMERICANS 2,740
Wikpedia lists victims by country, and excludes the terrorists, which
references 236 foreigners that died in the attack:
Non-American casualties of the September 11, 2001 Attacks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-American_casualties_of_the_September_11%2C_2001_Attacks
TOTAL COUNT 2,976
minus foreigners - 236
AMERICANS 2,740
The Devil
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
American Airlines Flight 11
Two flight attendants called the American Airlines reservation desk during the hijacking. Betty Ong reported that "the four hijackers had come from first-class seats: 2A, 2B, 9A, and 9B." <SUP class=reference id=_ref-probe_0>[1]</SUP>. Flight attendant Amy Sweeney called a flight services manager at Logan Airport and described them as Middle Eastern<SUP class=reference id=_ref-probe_1>[1]</SUP>. She gave the staff the seat numbers and they pulled up the ticket and credit card info of the hijackers, identifying Mohamed Atta al-Sayed<SUP class=reference id=_ref-0>[2]</SUP>.
American Airlines Flight 11
Two flight attendants called the American Airlines reservation desk during the hijacking. Betty Ong reported that "the four hijackers had come from first-class seats: 2A, 2B, 9A, and 9B." <SUP class=reference id=_ref-probe_0>[1]</SUP>. Flight attendant Amy Sweeney called a flight services manager at Logan Airport and described them as Middle Eastern<SUP class=reference id=_ref-probe_1>[1]</SUP>. She gave the staff the seat numbers and they pulled up the ticket and credit card info of the hijackers, identifying Mohamed Atta al-Sayed<SUP class=reference id=_ref-0>[2]</SUP>.
The Devil
EOG Master
Re: This pictures says it all ...
[edit] Suspected hijackers
Minutes after the occurrence of the September 11, Terrorist attacks, the Federal Bureau of Investigation opened the largest FBI investigation in United States history, operation PENTTBOM.
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The suspects were identified within 72 hours because few made any attempt to disguise their names on flight and credit card records and they were among the few non-U.S. citizens and nearly the only passengers with Arabic names on their flights, enabling the FBI to identify their names and in many cases such details as dates of birth, known, and/or possible residences, visa status, and specific identification of the suspected pilots within hours.
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<SUP class=reference id=_ref-fbilist_0>[5]</SUP> On September 27, 2001 the FBI released photos of the 19 hijackers, along with information about many of their possible nationalities and aliases <SUP class=reference id=_ref-3>[6]</SUP>. All the suspected hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Lebanon or Egypt.
United Airlines Flight 175: Marwan al-Shehhi (from the United Arab Emirates), Fayez Banihammad (from the United Arab Emirates), Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian). They were the only people with Arabic names on the flight.
American Airlines Flight 11: Mohamed Atta al Sayed (Egyptian), Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian), Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian). There was only one other passenger with an Arabic name who was ruled out as having any role.
United Airlines Flight 93: Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese), Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian), Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian). They were the only people with Arabic names on the flight.
American Airlines Flight 77: Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian), Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian), Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian), Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian), Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian). There was one other passenger with an Arabic name who was ruled out as having any role.
[edit] Suspected hijackers
Minutes after the occurrence of the September 11, Terrorist attacks, the Federal Bureau of Investigation opened the largest FBI investigation in United States history, operation PENTTBOM.
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The suspects were identified within 72 hours because few made any attempt to disguise their names on flight and credit card records and they were among the few non-U.S. citizens and nearly the only passengers with Arabic names on their flights, enabling the FBI to identify their names and in many cases such details as dates of birth, known, and/or possible residences, visa status, and specific identification of the suspected pilots within hours.
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<SUP class=reference id=_ref-fbilist_0>[5]</SUP> On September 27, 2001 the FBI released photos of the 19 hijackers, along with information about many of their possible nationalities and aliases <SUP class=reference id=_ref-3>[6]</SUP>. All the suspected hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Lebanon or Egypt.
United Airlines Flight 175: Marwan al-Shehhi (from the United Arab Emirates), Fayez Banihammad (from the United Arab Emirates), Mohand al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Hamza al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian). They were the only people with Arabic names on the flight.
American Airlines Flight 11: Mohamed Atta al Sayed (Egyptian), Waleed al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Wail al-Shehri (Saudi Arabian), Abdulaziz al-Omari (Saudi Arabian), Satam al-Suqami (Saudi Arabian). There was only one other passenger with an Arabic name who was ruled out as having any role.
United Airlines Flight 93: Ziad Jarrah (Lebanese), Ahmed al-Haznawi (Saudi Arabian), Ahmed al-Nami (Saudi Arabian), Saeed al-Ghamdi (Saudi Arabian). They were the only people with Arabic names on the flight.
American Airlines Flight 77: Hani Hanjour (Saudi Arabian), Khalid al-Mihdhar (Saudi Arabian), Majed Moqed (Saudi Arabian), Nawaf al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian), Salem al-Hazmi (Saudi Arabian). There was one other passenger with an Arabic name who was ruled out as having any role.
Total Recall
EOG Enthusiast
Re: This pictures says it all ...
The evidence is right under your noses (literally) righties.
You say the buildings "collapsed" by the force of their own weight. That would rule out a freefall collapse, yet that is what you had.
You say there is no evidence of explosives. EVERYBODY heard explosions giong off. Witness after witness recalled this in testimony which was omitted in the 9/11 commision report.
Pyroclastic flow of aerolisized concrete pushed out into New York Harbor. Common to events like volcanic eruption or a nuclear detonation.
Microscopic particulates that cannot be produced in any other way but by explosions so massive they vaporized the materials the buildings were composed of. A new weapon called a PHD (Pure Hydrogen Device) which is rumored to be a relatively small nuclear device utilizing massive heat (hydrogen) less the radiation (Uranium or Plutonium) would fit nicely if forced to speculate as to what was the culprit here.
These same particles found there way into the lungs of 40,000 brave 1st responders , including Police and FDNY, causing massive damage that is irreversible and has already led to the deaths of many and incapacitated thousands of others.
These 9/11 heroes are now being given the same run around as Iraq vets at Walter Reed. "You cant prove it (the illness contracted), brain tumor, DU caused cancers and birth defects in Vets and their children, leukemia, Gulf war syndrome etc. was a direct result of your being in Iraq!
You cant prove that your emphasema, pulmonary hypertension etc. was caused by working at ground zero. Therefore they deny your request for compensation! Thankyou Rudy! Thankyou for having your girl Christy Whitman tell New Yorkers the air was safe to breathe!
The evidence is right under your noses (literally) righties.
You say the buildings "collapsed" by the force of their own weight. That would rule out a freefall collapse, yet that is what you had.
You say there is no evidence of explosives. EVERYBODY heard explosions giong off. Witness after witness recalled this in testimony which was omitted in the 9/11 commision report.
Pyroclastic flow of aerolisized concrete pushed out into New York Harbor. Common to events like volcanic eruption or a nuclear detonation.
Microscopic particulates that cannot be produced in any other way but by explosions so massive they vaporized the materials the buildings were composed of. A new weapon called a PHD (Pure Hydrogen Device) which is rumored to be a relatively small nuclear device utilizing massive heat (hydrogen) less the radiation (Uranium or Plutonium) would fit nicely if forced to speculate as to what was the culprit here.
These same particles found there way into the lungs of 40,000 brave 1st responders , including Police and FDNY, causing massive damage that is irreversible and has already led to the deaths of many and incapacitated thousands of others.
These 9/11 heroes are now being given the same run around as Iraq vets at Walter Reed. "You cant prove it (the illness contracted), brain tumor, DU caused cancers and birth defects in Vets and their children, leukemia, Gulf war syndrome etc. was a direct result of your being in Iraq!
You cant prove that your emphasema, pulmonary hypertension etc. was caused by working at ground zero. Therefore they deny your request for compensation! Thankyou Rudy! Thankyou for having your girl Christy Whitman tell New Yorkers the air was safe to breathe!