Famous Americans questioning 911 and calling it a scam

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<big><big>/11 Pentagon Eyewitness Describes Having Seen Global Hawk *PIC*</big></big>
Posted By: <big>ChristopherBollyn</big>
Date: Monday, 17 July 2006, 6:58 p.m.
PENTAGON EYEWITNESS DEBUNKS OFFICIAL 9/11 STORY
Civilian Pilot Saw Global Hawk and Control Plane
Christopher Bollyn
An eyewitness from the Pentagon has come forward with an astonishing account that debunks the official 9/11 story and corroborates the hypothesis that an unmanned – and weaponized – Global Hawk drone was involved in the attack.
Nearly 5 years after the terror attacks of September 11, 2001, an eyewitness from the Pentagon has come forth with testimony, which, if accurate, completely debunks the official version that a hijacked Boeing 757 flew into the 5-sided military fortress housing the U.S. Department of Defense.
Samuel D. Danner, a civilian pilot and electrical engineer from Hagerstown, Maryland, says he was trying to get out of Washington on the morning of 9/11 after hearing of the attacks on the World Trade Center. Having made a wrong turn, Danner wound up heading south on Washington Blvd. (Virginia Highway 27), the highway that passes alongside the western side of the Pentagon. It was from the shoulder of Highway 27, across from the Pentagon, that Danner says he observed the approaching aircraft involved in the attack.
Danner's eyewitness account corroborates the theory that an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), known as Global Hawk, was flown by remote control into the newly renovated section of the Pentagon, the fortress of the Department of War that was built on a low lying area formerly known as Hell's Bottom. Although Danner's testimony is unique in its detail and description of the aircraft, it is supported by an abundance of photographic evidence and numerous statements made by other eyewitnesses.
Now a multi-billion dollar defense project involving contractors like L3 Communications Titan Group, Northrop Grumman Systems Corp., and Raytheon, the Global Hawk is a 44-foot long jet-powered surveillance UAV with a 116 foot wing span that can fly 12,000 miles at an altitude of 65,000 feet at 400 miles per hour. At the time of the attack, however, the U.S. Air Force had only 6 Global Hawks in service. Two of the original Global Hawks reportedly crashed, one at China Lake, California, another "somewhere overseas," according to a spokesman at Edwards Air Force Base where the aircraft is tested.
"Two Global Hawk crashes occurred in the Central Command Area of Operation, which is Southwest Asia," a spokesman for the U.S.A.F. later told AFP. "Both these crashes occurred during support for Operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom, which started after September 11th," he added.
The evidence supporting the theory that a Global Hawk was flown into the Pentagon by remote control has been investigated by this writer in American Free Press. While Danner's testimony corroborates this hypothesis, which is supported by evidence, there is not a single piece of evidence, physical or photographic in the public domain to support the government version that a Boeing 757 crashed into the Pentagon.
Danner, who was diagnosed with a form of lymphoma in September 2004, contacted 9/11 researcher Eric Hufschmid, author of Painful Questions, on June 29. Hufschmid, who works closely with this author, provided Danner's contact information.
Danner's initial wide-ranging two-hour conversation with Hufschmid is available online at www.erichufschmid.net.
Asked why he finally decided to come forth with his ground-breaking testimony, Danner told AFP, "It's been bugging me."
Danner said his son had shown him the 9/11 video called Loose Change by Dylan Avery on the Internet. "It made so much sense to me," Danner said. "It got me upset, in a good sense, in a patriotic sense. I asked myself why I didn't come out with this earlier?"
Danner told AFP that being a 53-year old lymphoma patient going through chemotherapy had motivated him to come forward with his testimony. Since coming forward with his account, Danner has been the guest on several of Michael C. Piper's radio programs on Republic Broadcasting Network, which are archived at http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper06.html
Piper's first show with Sam Danner set a record for the number of listeners at RBN.
"A BIG BOGUS LIE"
The government version that a Boeing 757 hijacked by Arabs hit the Pentagon is "a big bogus lie," Danner says. About the five video frames released by the government and the official explanation, Danner says: "That's a lie if I ever saw one. The American people need to know."
"It was not a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon," Danner told AFP, "No way." In fact, Danner's description of the aircraft that struck the Pentagon fits precisely with that of a Global Hawk, a relatively unknown UAV which was still being tested in 2001.
Danner, a certified pilot who no longer flies due to his illness, has had a lifelong interest in aircraft, both military and civilian, and has attended military air shows at Andrews AFB outside Washington. "I like airplanes," Danner says, and his ability to identify aircraft quickly and accurately is central to the credibility of his testimony. He was, however, not familiar with the Global Hawk at the time.
As he drove south on the west side of the Pentagon shortly after 9:30 a.m. on 9/11, Danner noticed a strange object in the air. He noticed that other drivers were also distracted by the object, which he described as an unidentified flying object (UFO). Danner pulled over on the right hand shoulder, stopped his car, and got out to observe the approaching aircraft. From this position, with the Pentagon on his left, he recalled his observations of the aircraft he says struck the Pentagon.
Danner described the UFO as a white aircraft, without any cockpit or fuselage windows, which came at him very fast. It was "bigger than a Gulfstream 300," he said, and had only one engine located on the rear section between a V tail, which reminded him of a Beechcraft Bonanza. The aircraft had a "funny looking front" with the shape of "a humpback whale," he said.
He saw the aircraft finish a tight descending turn to the right as it approached the Pentagon. As it leveled off just off the ground he said he heard "a high pitched whine" as the single engine aircraft "spooled up."
"It was real low," he said as it turned and dove toward the Pentagon over the highway cloverleaf southwest of the Pentagon. Danner said the aircraft had approached from the north and had made a 270 degree turn done while descending.
"It looked like it was under perfect control," Danner said, adding that he did not see any windows on the cockpit or the fuselage. Danner estimated that the aircraft was traveling about 200 mph as it made the tight turn and then accelerated as it leveled out and aimed itself at the Pentagon.
The engine configuration reminded Danner of an older Boeing 727, which has a turbine jet engine located on the back of the plane above the fuselage. "That was the only engine I saw," Danner said, "there was none affixed to any fore or aft wings.
"It had a V tail," Danner told AFP, "it had a Bonanza V tail."
Danner, who estimates that he was less than 500 feet from the path of this aircraft, noted that it was very quiet: "There wasn't the roar noise that you get with a jet at full throttle. This thing knew how to fly quietly – I mean I could hear the whine and I knew it was jet powered." Danner's description of the aircraft's small size is confirmed by early eyewitness reports. One witness, Steve Riskus, has previously confirmed to AFP that the plane was very quiet.
SECOND PLANE
"There was a four-engine jet above us," Danner said, which looked to him like a Boeing 707 or a DC-8 at about 15,000 feet.
He said this plane may have been controlling the windowless drone by "flying it by camera." Danner noticed that people at the Pentagon were aware of this plane overhead.
Danner said he had contacted some of the people he met on the lawn of the Pentagon to encourage them to come forward with their testimony.
BRILLIANT WHITE FLASH
Danner says the aircraft flew with remarkable precision as it leveled off and went right into the southwestern facade of the Pentagon. The impact created a "brilliant white flash" that he described as "a phosphorous kind of flash." This suggests the UAV carried high energy explosives or a depleted uranium (DU) missile. If a DU missile was used, this could explain the source of Danner's lymphoma. If he was contaminated by DU at the Pentagon crash site, the other people in the proximity would also have been affected.
Wearing his emergency medical technician (EMT) shirt that he carried in his car, Danner went directly to the crash site expecting to find wreckage, debris, wounded and dead. "I didn't find anything," Danner says. "I was there to rescue, but there were no bodies and no substantial pieces of wreckage."
Rather than finding wreckage of a Boeing 757, passengers and luggage, Danner found "a bunch of sheet metal" and a bent and damaged 3-foot engine that was missing its turbine blades.
Danner said he stood two feet away from the 3-foot engine that this writer investigated in a series of articles in 2003. The engine was found about 25 feet from the exterior wall and appears to have bounced off the two-foot thick limestone-clad wall.
See: The Truth Seeker - 911 Pentagon Photo Show Mystery Engine Part
At the scene of the crash Danner recalls smelling gun powder or cordite. The white flash he saw suggests that the aircraft was weaponized with a missile. A DU missile launched as the aircraft approached the building would explain the brilliant white flash, the hole pierced through three rings of the Pentagon, and the huge explosion.
Later, Danner participated in the retrieval of small pieces of the aircraft from the lawn with Pentagon personnel. He said he found small pieces of shredded aluminum and bits of carbon fiber and polymer resins. The Global Hawk has an aluminum fuselage and carbon fiber wings. "We were told to pick up every piece of debris," Danner said, which they put into trash bags.
Danner said the scene felt more like a crime scene than a crash scene and he was mystified by the way the evidence was being removed rather than flagged and documented.
Finis
Photo: The Global Hawk - Was this the "humpback whale" shaped windowless UFO that Sam Danner saw pulling a tight turn and flying into the Pentagon - with a depleted uranium tipped missle in the payload?


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roscoe

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doc, they identified all but one passenger from flight 77 at the pentagon thru dna analysis.did this global hawk carry body parts from all the passengers and crew? come on doc,your not an idiot.
 

Doc Mercer

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Good ....

and GUESS WHAT?

NOT ONE SINGLE ARAB!!!


Where is the DAMN PLANE?????
 

Doc Mercer

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no wings

no tail section


COMMERCIAL AIRLINE JETS DONT DISSOLVE SO STOP BEING THE 2ND
COMING OF DIRTY!!
 

Doc Mercer

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Image : U.S. Marine Corps, Cpl. Jason Ingersoll

Image : U.S. Army
</td> <td> </td> <td> The two photographs in question 2 show the building just after the attack. We may observe that the aircraft only hit the ground floor. The four upper floors collapsed towards 10.10 am. The building is 26 yards high.


Can you explain how a Boeing 14.9 yards high, 51.7 yards long, with a wingspan of 41.6 yards and a cockpit 3.8 yards high, could crash into just the ground floor of this building?
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Doc Mercer

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<table bgcolor="#f9ebd0" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="560"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td>
Image : Space Imaging

Image : U.S. Department of Defense
</td> <td> </td> <td> The first satellite image shows the section of the building that was hit by the Boeing. In the image below, the second ring of the building is also visible. It is clear that the aircraft only hit the first ring. The four interior rings remain intact. They were only fire-damaged after the initial explosion.


Can you explain how a Boeing 757-200, weighing nearly 100 tons and travelling at a minimum speed of 250 miles an hour* only damaged the outside of the Pentagon?
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Doc Mercer

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Image : U.S. Army
The photograph above shows the lawn in front of the damaged building.

You'll remember that the aircraft only hit the ground floor of the Pentagon's first ring. Can you find debris of a Boeing 757-200 in this photograph?
 

Doc Mercer

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<table bgcolor="#f9ebd0" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="560"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td>
Image : Space Imaging
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Image : U.S. Department of Defense, Sgt. Rudisill
The photographs in Question 5 show representations of a Boeing 757-200 superimposed on the section of the building that was hit.

Can you explain what happened to the wings of the aircraft and why they caused no damage?
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Doc Mercer

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<table bgcolor="#f9ebd0" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="560"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td bgcolor="#f9ebd0"><table bgcolor="#f5ddaf" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top">When asked by a journalist: "Is there anything left of the aircraft at all?"
"First of all, the question about the aircraft, there are some small pieces of aircraft visible from the interior during this fire-fighting operation I'm talking about, but not large sections. In other words, there's no fuselage sections and that sort of thing." " You know, I'd rather not comment on that. We have a lot of eyewitnesses that can give you better information about what actually happened with the aircraft as it approached. So we don't know. I don't know."
When asked by a journalist: "Where is the jet fuel?"
"We have what we believe is a puddle right there that the -- what we believe is to be the nose of the aircraft. So -"
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td> </td> <td> The quotations in Question 6 correspond to statements made by Arlington County Fire Chief, Ed Plaugher, at a press conference held by Assistant Defence Secretary, Victoria Clarke, on 12 September 2001, at the Pentagon.
Can you explain why the County Fire Chief could not tell reporters where the aircraft was?
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Doc Mercer

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Images : U.S. Marine Corps photo by Cpl. Jason Ingersoll 1 et 2
<table bgcolor="#f9ebd0" border="0" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0" width="560"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td> </td> <td> </td> <td> The two photographs in question 7 were taken just after the attack. They show the precise spot on the outer ring where the Boeing struck.

Can you find the aircraft's point of impact?
(To view the photos in detail, download these enlargements: 1 and 2)
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Doc Mercer

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Look for yourself:​


The light poles would have been in the way of a 757...

No damage to the trailers on the right?
Rescue crews jerking off doing nothing? What are they waiting for? An explosion?
 

Doc Mercer

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The only way a 757 could have caused the damage below was to enter in the above impossible manner.


What the hell? The hole is too small. Not tall enough. NO RIGHT SIDE ENGINE DAMAGE. NO RIGHT SIDE ENGINE! Snopes.com and others are lying when they claim a 757 engine hit the ground. Do you see damage to the ground?
 

Doc Mercer

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Check out this shockwave video file of a clip from CNN coverage on the morning of 9/11. CNN reporter Jamie McIntyre says he inspected the Pentagon site and it is obvious no plane crashed there.




Transcript by Total911.info:


JAMIE MCINTYRE: From my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.

The only site, is the actual side of the building that's crashed in. And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.

Even though if you look at the pictures of the Pentagon you see that the floors have all collapsed, that didn't happenm immediately. It wasn't until almost about 45 minutes later that the structure was weakened enough that all of the floors collapsed.

Source: TOTAL 911 INFO
 

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US Solicitor General Theodore Olson has allegedly spoken to the media several times about the calls from his wife Barbara on Flight 77. In the alleged words of Ted Olsen:
?She [Barbara] had trouble getting through, because she wasn?t using her cell phone ? she was using the phone in the passengers? seats,? said Mr. Olson. ?I guess she didn?t have her purse, because she was calling collect, and she was trying to get through to the Department of Justice, which is never very easy.? ? ?She wanted to know ?What can I tell the pilot? What can I do? How can I stop this?? ?

"What Can I tell the pilot?" Yes indeed! The forged Barbara Olson telephone call claims that the flight deck crew were with her at the back of the aircraft, presumably politely ushered down there by the box cutter-wielding Muslim maniacs, who for some bizarre reason decided not to cut their throats on the flight deck. Have you ever heard anything quite so ridiculous?

But it is at this juncture that we finally have the terminal error. Though the American Airlines Boeing 757 is fitted with individual telephones at each seat position, they are not of the variety where you can simply pick up the handset and ask for an operator. On many aircraft you can talk from one seat to another in the aircraft free of charge, but if you wish to access the outside world you must first swipe your credit card through the telephone. By Ted Olson?s own admission, Barbara did not have a credit card with her.

It gets worse. On American Airlines there is a telephone "setup" charge of US$2.50 which can only be paid by credit card, then a US$2.50 (sometimes US$5.00) charge per minute of speech thereafter. The setup charge is the crucial element. Without paying it in advance by swiping your credit card you cannot access the external telephone network. Under these circumstances the passengers? seat phone on a Boeing 757 is as much use as a plastic toy.
Perhaps Ted Olson made a mistake and Barbara managed to borrow a credit card from a fellow passenger? Not a chance. If Barbara had done so, once swiped through the phone, the credit card would have enabled her to call whomever she wanted to for as long as she liked, negating any requirement to call collect. Can't have it both ways.

Sadly perhaps, the Olson telephone call claim is proved untrue. Any American official wishing to challenge this has only to subpoena the telephone company and Justice Department records. There will be no phone charge originating from American Airlines 77 to the US Solicitor General. It would be impossible.
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Many US Government officials claimed that it was unthinkable and unexpected that "terrorists" would hijack commercial aircraft and crash them into buildings. How could they have missed this news of a "mock terrorist incident" training in the Office of the Secretaries of Defense conference room less than 10 months prior to 9/11? (My emphases added.) See: Such an Act Could Not Be Imagined. Still, Newsweek reported on September 24, 2001:
"Three weeks ago there was another warning that a terrorist strike might be imminent. But there was no mention of where. On Sept. 10, NEWSWEEK has learned, a group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns.

But no one even dreamed that four airliners would be hijacked and plunged into targets in New York and Washington."
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times]Can you believe that? What did the Pentagon officials know that the passengers in the hijacked aircraft weren't told? Or was it Flight 77 that crashed into the Pentagon? Secretary Rumsfeld said "[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times]missile[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times]."[/FONT]
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[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif] Defense Secretary:
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[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]and the missile to damage this building" [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was interviewed on 12 October 2001 by Lyric Wallwork Winik (yes, that's her real name), a columnist for Parade, the magazine that comes in many Sunday newspapers across the US. Although Parade is one of the most mainstream magazines imaginable (think People meets the Saturday Evening Post), Winik blindsided Rumsfeld with a question that few reporters/interviewers have the guts to ask:[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] "This is a question that's been asked by many Americans, but especially by the widows of September 11th. How were we so asleep at the switch? How did a war targeting civilians arrive on our homeland with seemingly no warning?"[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Rumsfeld is apparently shaken by this young reporter's forthrightness. First, he admits what few else dare:[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] "There were lots of warnings."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] Immediately after this sentence, though, the Secretary starts to qualify it. He subtly plays the "we didn't connect the dots" card:[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]"The intelligence information that we get, it sometimes runs into the hundreds of alerts or pieces of intelligence a week. One looks at the worldwide, it's thousands. And the task is to sort through it and see what you can find."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Although he doesn't directly say it, it would seem that Rumsfeld is insinuating that the poor, understaffed, shoestring intelligence and defense establishments can't put together intelligence in a timely manner.[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Now things get really bizarre. After admitting that there were plenty of warnings, he says it was up to the FBI and especially state and local law enforcement to deal with the imminent terrorist attack:[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] "And as you find things, the law enforcement officials who have the responsibility to deal with that type of thing -- the FBI at the federal level, and although it is not, it's an investigative service as opposed to a police force, it's not a federal police force, as you know. But the state and local law enforcement officials have the responsibility for dealing with those kinds of issues."[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]To sum up Rumsfeld's explanation: 1) The warnings were there; 2) the Defense Department and the intelligence community couldn't figure them out; but anyway 3) it was up to the FBI, state law enforcement, and local police to uncover and prevent the worst terrorist attack in US history.[/FONT]​
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]And here's something to kick around. Still answering this question, Rumsfeld goes on to make a strange statement:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] "It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]"Missile"? What missile would that be? Did he let something slip? Or was this just a gaffe? A bad choice of words? A transcription error? Until we know for sure, it deserves scrutiny.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The article based on this interesting interview was "We Have to Defend Our Way of Life" by Lyric Wallwork Winik in Parade, 18 Nov 2001. The only part of the above exchange to be included is this:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]To Rumsfeld, the Sept. 11 attacks did not come as a complete surprise. "There were lots of warnings," he says bluntly. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] "The only way to deal with this problem," he continues, "is by taking the battle to the terrorists and dealing with them."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Now, it is pretty bold for Parade to quote him about the warnings. Of course, the magazine then skips Rumsfeld's subsequent shifting of blame and use of the word "missile," jumping right to the innocuous final sentence of the exchange.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Full text of the interview[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]also available on the Defense Department's site here. http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Nov2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html or if it has been removed I've archived it here
Presenter: Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Friday, Oct. 12, 2001
From the Memory Hole
[/FONT] www.thememoryhole.org/911/rumsfeld-warnings.htm
Here's a Flash Summary of the anomalies at the Pentagon "Attack" on 9-11
So now we can look at the evidence for Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon.
  • The government said it did. After all, Flight 77 turned around and headed east toward Washington DC.
  • Some observers said they thought it was an American Airlines flight.
  • DNA identified the bodies of all but one victim...the government said.
The Bush Administration was just connecting the dots, perhaps? Flight 77 did disappear from the radar screen after turning back toward Washington, DC and then "something" hit the Pentagon. Was it Flight 77? The discontinuity in the tracking leaves a huge hole in the evidence. Another problem is the trajectory in the video clip of the plane/missile hitting the Pentagon. According to several researchers, including JP Desmoulins, there is no way that any plane OR missile could fit below the cover of the yellow box. They would have to be flying below the surface. Clearly the video is faked. The plane/missile would have to come in at a much higher trajectory. Besides, there are also missing frames to the sequence because there is something that should not be seen lest the ruse be laid bare.
Some observers said they thought it had the markings of American Airlines but some said it was a small aircraft, others a missile or jetfighter. "It was like a cruise missile with wings, went right there and slammed into the Pentagon," Mike Walter, an eyewitness, told CNN.?CNN.COM, "Up to 800 possibly dead at Pentagon", September 12, 2001

Steve Patterson, 43, said he was watching television reports of the World Trade Center being hit when he saw a silver commuter jet fly past the window of his 14th-floor apartment in Pentagon City. The plane was about 150 yards away, approaching from the west about 20 feet off the ground, Patterson said. He said the
plane, which sounded like the high-pitched squeal of a fighter jet, flew over Arlington cemetery so low that he thought it was going to land on I-395. He said it was flying so fast that he couldn't read any writing on the side. The plane, which appeared to hold about eight to 12 people, headed straight for the Pentagon but was flying as if coming in for a landing on a nonexistent runway, Patterson said. Eyewitness described a small
jet aircraft seating a maximum of 12 passengers and crew, NOT an airliner, flying "like a fighter jet" at high speed below treetop level.
?News reports reposted on WhatReallyHappened.com

Some observers noted a high pitched scream from the "something" that hit the Pentagon. The sound of a large Boeing 757 in flight is a lower pitch, easily distinguishable from a jumbo jet. Here's an engine part that was photographed. It's the type of rotor that may be used in smaller jet engines, not in a Boeing 757 engine. However, it could be from the auxiliary power unit that drives the generators for a Boeing 757 while on the ground. For more discussion of this CLICK HERE and HERE.

DNA is an organic molecule that is very fragile, easily destroyed by high temperatures. Not finding the large metallic pieces that would indicate a Boeing 757, the government explained that they were burned up in the intense blaze that consumed the aircraft. Then how does human tissue survive when 600 lb metal engines cannot? Can't have it both ways. So how trustworthy can the government evidence be?
Contrasting the results of the DNA analysis of victims at the World Trade Center with that of victims of the Pentagon crash Xymphora reported August 16, 2003:
The New York City medical examiner's office, using DNA analysis, has managed to identify slightly more than half of the 2,792 people killed in the attack on the WTC towers, and it is feared that the remains of as many as 1,000 victims may never be identified. Given the fire and collapse of the two towers, this is not surprising. What is surprising is the contrast between the DNA identification process in New York and the DNA identification process that took place with respect to the victims of the Pentagon crash. Again, there was an horrific crash and a terrible fire, but authorities report that they identified remains of 184 (or here) people who were aboard Flight 77 or inside the Pentagon, including those of the five hijackers, but could not match the other remains with any of five people who were also known to be on the flight. In fact, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology claims to have identified the remains of all but one of the passengers on Flight 77. If they achieve their goals, the New York investigators hope to achieve a 65% rate of identification. That is in a situation where many bodies were found intact as many of the victims died due to the collapse of the buildings and not due to fire. Identifying 184 out of 189 Pentagon victims is a 97% success rate in a case where we are to believe that heat was sufficient to vaporize the fuselage and engines of the plane, a vaporization needed to explain the almost complete absence of wreckage left behind of the plane, but not degrade the DNA of the passengers inside the plane. How do we reconcile a 50% rate of identification in New York, or 65% if they achieve their goals, with a 97% identification rate in Washington, especially where much of the DNA obtained in Washington had to be obtained from the area where the fuselage surrounding the passengers was before it was vaporized by the heat?
Then let's look at some evidence.
The entry point was very tiny, especially just after it happened. Later, firemen brought the facade down and the hole looked bigger. Judging from the windows the entry point for this event would be approximately triple the width of the Pentagon windows. Through this hole the Bush Administration wishes for us to think that a Boeing 757 penetrated the Pentagon. You can imagine the magician that could do this trick. To make it easier look at the graphic below showing a 757 in scale with the Pentagon.

Remember, the 757 must fit into a hole the width of three windows, not the gaping hole from the later activities of the firemen. Note also that no damage to the building occurred at the points where the wings would have struck the outer wall....at over 400 mph. (A 737 would fit the damage profile better.) The fuel tanks would have increased the momentum of the wings creating a hammer-like blow to the facade. No evidence of that. Then how did all that aircraft squeeze into the relatively small hole in the Pentagon shown above? Some hypothesize that the wings became crushed against the side of the fuselage and followed it into the hole. That still doesn't explain why no damage to the exterior of the Pentagon at the point of hypothetical wing impact. Besides, the fuel tanks inside the wings should have burst and most of the fuel exploded outside the building as the plane was extruded through that small hole. Once the tanks are ruptured in the extrusion, the fuel would be squeezed out. But no problem...Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld said, "...and the missile to damage this building..."
But let's hang in there for a bit and examine some of the other "evidence." There were a few bits of debris on the lawn that looked like they might be part of the skin of an American Airlines plane. One piece was quite near to a pickup truck which can be used for a comparison of dimensions. The letters on the debris would correspond with those on an American airliner except for one little detail. It is 1/2 to 1/3 the size. No match. Nice try.
The "something" that hit the Pentagon slammed through six walls before it left an exit hole approximately twelve feet across. Can you imagine something in an aluminum aircraft that could remain intact through six walls, multiple pillars and leave an exit wound so small. It can't be one of the engines because there is only one hole and the exit hole is consistent with the trajectory of the fuselage, not an outboard turbine. Besides, this is too near the opening and an engine would not have burned up in a fire in the open courtyard. The nose cone of the 757 is made of a very hard carbon compound that could not be expected to survive crashing through all that structure and still have enough momentum to blast a twelve foot hole in the heavy wall in the Pentagon. It's starting to seem as though Secretary Rumsfeld might be right!
About the only photographic evidence of the moment of impact that remains available to the public is a very short segment in which only one frame shows some kind of object just before it hits the Pentagon. It was taken from a surveillance camera at a service station near the Pentagon. Just above the middle orange pylon can be seen a light-colored horizontal object, the heliport and above that a dark gray horizontal object. Above the yellow cabinet to its right might be imagined a tail. But just so you can see the lie without being hit across the forehead with a 2 X 4, you'll notice the date stamp in the lower left hand corner. Oops! Also, you will notice the shadow of the cabinet in the center has been sharpened up a bit with a border. You have probably noticed that shadows don't usually come with a darkened border. Much more of the analysis of the photos from this camera is available at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jpdesm/pentagon/english.html and he'll show you some of the other tricks played with this video shown on CNN and authenticated by the Pentagon.
Jerry Russell in an article, "The Five-Sided Fantasy Island: An analysis of the Pentagon explosion on 9-11" suggest the possibility that the surveillance video was intentionally enhanced to create a storm of controversy among critics about what actually hit the Pentagon:
However, we do not believe the "whistle blower" theory of the origin of these images. On the contrary, we believe that the controversy and bickering over these images is exactly what the government intended, and that the images were released through spurious semi-official channels, with the explicit intent of fraudulently supporting the missile theory. If this is correct, then the tailfin and exhaust plume have been added by an unknown artist. Furthermore (and even more importantly) images of the 757, which (we agree with Eastman) must have overflown the Pentagon, have been deliberately erased. We emphasize that we have no direct evidence that the security video frames have been fraudulently altered in this way; however, they are inconsistent with the rest of our web of evidence -- in fact if they are genuine, they would disprove our theory that no aircraft of any kind struck the Pentagon. However, if the rest of our argument is valid, we have no choice but to denounce these security videos as fraudulent.
So then what kind of aircraft would do the job? Here is a photo showing what a Tomahawk cruise missile did to the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade in 1998. More on this from Xymphora. In June 2001, NORAD conducted a military exercise in Florida called 'Amalgam Virgo', a simulation of a cruise missile attack against an American military base. It was NORAD that inexplicably failed to stop any of the September 11 attacks. Well, following Secretary Rumsfeld's lead let's look at what kind of missile would enter by such a small hole, penetrate 6 walls and several intervening columns to create a nice round exit hole. There are several variations of the cruise missile, one of which would carry a hollow charge to blast the entry hole and a "depleted" uranium charge to explode inside the target.
"BROACH technology is innovative in that rather than simply using mass and speed to penetrate targets, as with conventional warheads, approximately 1/3 of the mass of the warhead is used for a large shaped charge. This "Augmenting Charge" detonates first, cleaving the target with a high speed plasma jet. A "Follow Through Bomb" then penetrates and detonates inside the target structure." See NEWS FROM PARIS 99 BROACH multiple warhead system
The AGM-86D Block II program is the Precision Strike variant of CALCM. It incorporates a penetrating warhead, updated state of the art, near-precision, GPS guidance, and a modified terminal area flight profile to maximize the effectiveness of the warhead. The penetrating warhead is augmented with two forward shape charges. To maximize the warheads effectiveness against hardened targets, the Block II will maneuver and dive onto its target in a near vertical orientation. The updated guidance system will increase the systems lethality by obtaining a less than 5 meter CEP. The Precision Strike variant of CALCM was successfully demonstrated in December 1996. A CALCM modified with a new precision GPS implementation flew for 4.5 hours, performed a newly developed steep terminal dive, and impacted the target within 2.5 meters of the aim point. The demonstration clearly showed that CALCM is capable of delivering it?s warhead with precision accuracy from extremely long standoff ranges.
The BROACH multi-warhead system, also under evaluation for the the Joint Stand-off Weapon (JSOW), achieves its results by combining an initial penetrator charge (warhead) with a secondary follow-through bomb, supported by multi-event hard target fuzing. The outcome is a warhead and fuse combination that provides for the defeat of hardened targets more than twice that achievable for equivalent single penetrating warhead types, at an equivalent weight and velocity. See AGM-86C Conventional Air Launched Cruise Missile [CALCM] - United States Nuclear Forces Other facts indicate the presence of a hollow charge (or broach) bomb:
- plasma on photo of explosion
- white initial fireball
- punched out hole at 84 m from entry point in C ring wall
- a lady's body was found in the pentagon, sitting on her desk, her arms before her face as to protect. Seems to be a death provoked by an electrical shock like the one produced by strong plasma jets of hollow charges. (Thanks to JP Desmoulins communication.).

Another possible aircraft is an Global Hawk outfitted with a Broach hollow charge. At 350 kts it would be easy to confuse a missile laden Global Hawk with a passenger aircraft. The Mobile Microwave Landing System (MMLS), designated AN/TRN-45, is a portable, ground-based microwave transmitter that provides a mobile, precision approach and landing capability for MLS equipped aircraft. Which part of a 757 did this wing section come from? It seems to have a remarkably similar profile to that of Global Hawk. Wing debris in the Pentagon matches the profile of a Global Hawk. Other debris photographed at the Pentagon seem to match Global Hawk parts and materials.
Runway 15 of Reagan International Airport is on the opposite of the Pentagon and lines up quite accurately with the trajectory of whatever hit the Pentagon. More images and information at http://membres.lycos.fr/applemacintosh/pentagon.htm

Very interesting here, beyond its capacity to penetrate heavy fortification is its capability to be guided by remote to obtain an accurate navigation trajectory beyond the capability of Hani Hanjour who had never flown a large aircraft before and who had failed to convince instructors at an airport that he had the skills to land a Cessna 172 he wished to rent.. Also very interesting is the navigational ability, as of '97, of the CALCM to drop into a steep dive on its target. If, four years later, the cruise missile navigation technology has been modified to pull out into level flight to strike at ground level, then this would fit the parameters of the air strike on the Pentagon. One witness described a plane at several thousand feet making a combined dive and 270? turn to come to street level. That certainly is not a typical maneuver for a Boeing 757 and certainly not within the capability of the alleged pilot, Hani Hanjour. But it might be within the capability of the CALCM 88
The lawn on the west side of the Pentagon was not damaged by the crash or the blast. See the lawn at the Pentagon after a 100-ton Boeing 757 plows into the Pentagon. Not a scrape, not even a singe. Several witnesses observed that the aircraft had hit the ground and then crashed into the Pentagon. Perhaps this grass is GMO Freehomepages.com - Error Page So why did they cover it with several feet of sand later? If there was a "depleted" uranium warhead used, it would leave a deadly blowback trail of fine radioactive dust that would cause many health problems for the firemen, the reconstruction crews and the workers at the Pentagon. To stabilize the situation, sand would provide a barrier that would keep the radioactive dust in place. A clue that will begin to show up almost immediately would be health problems of the firemen and their families. First responders were not wearing decontamination clothing and masks until later. Absent any warnings about the dust on their clothing and boots, they probably carried a lot home with them to settle into the carpet and furnishings. Over time, the dust will begin to produce symptoms similar to Gulf War Syndrome. Or perhaps they were just bringing in very heavy equipment for the excavation of the mess. I am looking for an updated photo of the lawn on the west side of the Pentagon. Is it paved or grass?
In "Decoys and the Pentagon Attack" at physics911.org Dick Eastman several aircraft involved in a carefully choreographed maneuver as "distractions in a mass-murder psy-op conducted by top leaders in the White House, the Pentagon, the FAA, the FBI and the CIA."
Aerial Distraction #1 -- From the west came the C-130 following behind the Boeing and over flying the crash, actually going through the column of smoke, just 30 seconds after the the explosion -- supplying a "plausible-deniability" answer any who might later claim to have seen more than one plane at the crash or to have seen a large plane over fly the crash.
Want a BIG distraction in the sky? The C-130 is the very best choice they could have made. However, big as it was, think how few witnesses or news reporters mentioned the C-130 over flying the Pentagon crash site just 30 seconds after the attack!
Aerial Distraction #2 -- In the east, a four-engine large jet doing dives over the Capitol Building in restricted airspace leading up to and immediately before the moment of the the crash drawing all eyes to that quarter and away from the vicinity from which the real killer jet, flying only six feet above the landscape and at more than 700 mph, would sneak up upon the Pentagon.
Many thought that this was the airliner that hit the Pentagon -- all witnesses who spoke of a steep dive may have only seen this aircraft
...Joe Vialls found the ...BBC video tape of this same plane while in the same dive that he had recorded on September 11 -- except that Joe believed the BBC that this was the real plane, and used this clip from the broadcast to "disprove" the small-plane thesis. But, as investigators immediately pointed out this is a four engine plane and the wings are swept back too far and the root of the wing is far too close to the cockpit for this to be a Boeing 757. BUT IT DID MAKE A HIGHLY EFFECTIVE DISTRACTION WHILE DIVING OVER THE CAPITOL AFTER EVERYONE WAS AWARE OF THE WTC ATTACKS EARLIER THAT MORNING.
And each of these three distractions did their part in concealing the approach and identity of the real killer jet. The F-16 which fired a missile ahead of its own crash into the Pentagon.
Discussing September 11 in his recent book, My Jihad: The True Story of an American Mujahid's Amazing Journey from Usama Bin Laden's Training Camps to Counterterrorism with the FBI and CIA (Guilford, Connecticut: The Lyons Press, 2002 by Aukai Collins says on p. 248,
"I was very mistrustful about the fact that Usama Bin Laden's name was mentioned literally hours after the attack. When I combined this with the fact the FBI had no apparent desire to accept what I brought to the table, I became very skeptical about anything anybody said about what happened, or who did it. I thought back to when I was still working for them and we had the opportunity to enter Bin Laden's camp. Something just hadn't smelled right. There were also the details I knew personally about Hani Hanjour, one of the 'hanky-panky' hijackers on the Pentagon flight. He wasn't even moderately religious, let alone fanatically religious. And I knew for a fact that he wasn't part of Al Qaeda or any other Islamic organization; he couldn't even spell jihad in Arabic."
We are supposed to believe that this 'hanky-panky Arab' was so full of commitment to jihad that he piloted Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11. In addition of witnesses telling that Hanjour didn't have the requisite skills to handle a Cessna much less a "heavy" such as a Boeing 757, Stanley and Russell note that "a high-speed attack directed at the first floor of the Pentagon would have been difficult to carry out accurately because of turbulence and ground-effect...". Leaving aside the fact that Hani Hanjour wasn't nearly skilled enough to have piloted that plane into the Pentagon, he also clearly wasn't anywhere close to being pious enough to give up his life for a religious cause. He fails the test as a Mujahideen.
Stanley and Russell suggest that leaving the results to the imponderable variables of real world physics might have lead them to hedge their gamble with a missile at the Pentagon and demolition at the World Trade Center.
On Sept.13-14 the FBI explained that "Flight 77" did not fly to New York, but had hit the Pentagon instead. Then they also changed the time from 9:30 to 9:43 (or 9:45).

Obviously the factual and correct "Pentagon time" 9:30 - is very important !

Several Eyewitnesses confirmed that they saw "Smoke from Pentagon" at circa 9:30. The FBI?s claim that Flight 77 had crashed into the Pentagon at 9:45 was made to "link" the Pentagon Attack to the flight path of "Flight 77." On Sept. 11, the Danish Foreign Minister Mr. Per Stig M?ller was in Washington, and was therefore interviewed by "Denmarks Radio" DR "P3" early in the morning at circa 7:30 on Sept.12. And he explained that he had seen a big cloud of "FIRE" and "SMOKE" from the Pentagon at circa. 9:32 (local time) excerpt from BombsInsideWTC.dk

Then there is the large plane identified by some eyewitnesses as a C-130 flying above the plane/missile before it struck the Pentagon.
'HORRIFIC' IMAGE STILL HAUNTS SURRY WOMAN DISASTER VIEWED FROM ARLINGTON
Daily Press; Newport News; Sep 14, 2001; TERRY SCANLON Daily Press;

Abstract:
Her brother, [Keith Wheelhouse], of Virginia Beach, spotted the planes first. The second plane looked similar to a C- 130 transport plane, he said. He believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar while at the same time guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.

Wheelhouse's account of a second plane is unlike everything else that has been reported about the attack. Some initial reports on television said a second airliner might be headed for the Pentagon, but authorities later dismissed that. A Norfolk-based FBI agent interviewed Wheelhouse Wednesday evening.

A possible explanation for the second plane could be a plane landing at nearby
Ronald Reagan National Airport. The Pentagon is between the cemetery and the airport. But Wheelhouse insists he was not confused by other air traffic.
HAMPTON ROADS WOMAN SAYS SHE, TOO, SAW PLANE FOLLOWING JET THAT HIT PENTAGON
Daily Press; Newport News; Sep 15, 2001; TERRY SCANLON Daily Press;

Abstract:
Kelly Knowles, a First Colonial High School alumnus who now lives in an apartment a few miles from the Pentagon, said some sort of plane followed the doomed American Airlines jet toward the Pentagon, then veered away after the explosion.

At the same time, [Keith Wheelhouse] and his sister, Pam Young, who lives in Surry, were preparing to leave a funeral at Arlington National Cemetery, which is less than a mile from the Pentagon, when they watched the jet approach and slam into the Pentagon. Both of them, as well as at least one other person at the funeral, insist that there was another plane flying near the hijacked jet.

The Pentagon denied that any C-130 was near the flight path of "Flight 77" until one month later. www.the-movement.com - Home observes: "Over a month later Pentagon officials finally decided to deliver a convenient story that the mystery plane WAS in fact a C-130 that flew out of Andrews Air force base and just happened to see flight 77 on its way to destruction. It followed the plane on a request from air traffic control. If this is true, surely you?d think that a fighter from the same base could have intercepted the plane instead of having to ask a C-130 that just happened to be in the area to have a look?
C-130 CREW SAW PENTAGON STRIKE, OFFICIAL CONFIRMS
Daily Press; Newport News; Oct 17, 2001; TERRY SCANLON and DAVID LERMAN Daily Press;


Abstract:
[Keith Wheelhouse] and at least two other witnesses to the Pentagon attack were troubled that Pentagon spokesmen had until now said they were unaware of a C-130 being in the area at the time.

In the days immediately following the Sept. 11 hijackings, the Pentagon had no knowledge of the C-130's encounter, because all reports were classified by the Air National Guard, ...

An article originally from the New York Times gives a similar explanation of what the c-130 was doing there.
At 9:36 a.m., National Airport, which was on Flight 77's flight path, asked a military C-130 cargo plane, taking off on a scheduled flight from Andrews Air Force Base - in Maryland, on the other side of the District of Columbia - to intercept and identify the fast-moving target. The crew of the C-130 said it was a Boeing 757, moving low and fast.
Again http://www.the-movement.com observes: "All of this certainly adds a lot of fuel to the popular theories that the planes were being flown by remote control, especially now we have evidence to suggest that an unknown plane or flying object has been sighted at the WTC, flight 93 and now at the Pentagon."
Please note the article by Joe Vialls at Fly a Jumbo Jet in Ten Easy Lessons and the report of a Portuguese investigation that did not get reported in the US media at US Government accused of 9-11:
A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

In a detailed press communiqu? the inquiry stated: ?The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets.?

The report seriously questions whether or not the suspect hijackers, supposedly trained on Cessna light aircraft, could have located a target dead-on 200 miles from take off point. It further throws into doubt their ability to master the intricacies of the instrument flight rules (IFR) in the 45 minutes from take off to the point of impact. Colonel de Grand said that it would be impossible for novices to have taken control of the four aircraft and orchestrated such a terrible act requiring military precision of the highest order.

A member of the inquiry team, a US Air Force officer who flew over 100 sorties during the Vietnam war, told the press conference: ?Those birds (commercial airliners) either had a crack fighter pilot in the left seat, or they were being manoeuvred by remote control.?

In evidence given to the enquiry, Captain Kent Hill (retd.) of the US Air Force, and friend of Chic Burlingame, the pilot of the plane that crashed into the Pentagon, stated that the US had on several occasions flown an unmanned aircraft, similar in size to a Boeing 737, across the Pacific from Edwards Air Force base in California to South Australia. According to Hill it had flown on a pre programmed flight path under the control of a pilot in an outside station.

Hill also quoted Bob Ayling, former British Airways boss, in an interview given to the London Economist on September 20th, 2001. Ayling admitted that it was now possible to control an aircraft in flight from either the ground or in the air. This was confirmed by expert witnesses at the inquiry who testified that airliners could be controlled by electro-magnetic pulse or radio frequency instrumentation from command and control platforms based either in the air or at ground level.

Finally, although it is only circumstantial evidence, the behavior of the US Government in swooping in quickly to took all surveillance videos and not ever releasing this information seems highly suspicious. The only reasonable explanation is that these silent witnesses to the attack on the Pentagon might have shown what really happened and that would not coincide with the Official Conspiracy Theory.
It's not yet a slam dunk. Except for a few anomalies such as a landing strut and a gear from a rotary actuator of a wing slat, much of the evidence points toward other types of aircraft other than the Boeing 757. Both of these artifacts could have been planted, may not have been photographed in the debris, or the person who identified the Boeing 757 piece could have been a disinformationist. It's so hard to be sure. One can only look at the evidence available and draw provisional interpretations. Some of the evidence for a missile, specifically a cruise missile, cannot be easily refuted or questioned. You must decide if the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, lied about the missile, or lied that an American Airlines Boeing 757 slammed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. I think he slipped and admitted it was a missile. When telling lies, it is so easy to forget which is the fact and which is the lie. The truth will out nevertheless and we, the People, must often read between the lines, or, more accurately, read between the lies.
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See also: Clues to the Murderers of 9-11
No Need for Hijackers
Stand Down
Practising for the 9-11 Attacks in Israel

August 11, 2004
Pentagon 9/11: Getting the Facts Straight
September 8 2004
Wargames Were Cover For the Operational Execution of 9/11
For an excellent analysis of what did or did NOT happen at the Pentagon on 9-11 see Dave McGowan's careful analysis at http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr7.htm
 

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Famous Americans questioning 911 and calling it a scam

You got waders on Roscoe..the shit is getting deep
 

seedless

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Famous Americans questioning 911 and calling it a scam

calm down doc.facts,just stick to the facts and there is absolutlely no doubt that 19 arab hijackers pulled off the greatest act of terrorism to date. period.
no bush no chenney no northwood.

That 19 Arab hijackers could come out of caves, and pull off the greatest act of terrorism to date. This is probably naive thinking.

With all of the major investigations into simple aircraft failures in the past. That the 911 commission investigation was so brief, is quite telling. Much more money was spent on investigating Clinton's infidelities, than on the investigation into this tragedy........ask yourself, WHY? There are still major questions into this crises that the commission left unanswered.

There is a lot of shit that will surface in the future regarding 911, and none of it is going to be any good.

At the beginning of this thread stucco posted some statements about this tragedy, by people who would not normally considered 'conspiracy theorists', congressman, intel. operatives, career military officers. Their statements at the beginning of this thread, probably killed their careers....WHY? It doesn't make sense.
 

Total Recall

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Famous Americans questioning 911 and calling it a scam

The latest POS Know-it-All 9/11 debunking site reporting that the "explosions" were merely the sounds of bodies hiting the pavement and rooftops of cars....

Give me 5 minutes with these scumbags in a face to face discussion of the facts...I'll "volunteer" them as test dummies to see if theyre right!
 

Total Recall

EOG Enthusiast
Re: Famous Americans questioning 911 and calling it a scam

Roscoe
"doc, they identified all but one passenger from flight 77 at the pentagon thru dna analysis.did this global hawk carry body parts from all the passengers and crew? come on doc,your not an idiot."


To get a DNA match you need a relative of the deceased. Where did they find the relatives of the Arabs on flight 77 for DNA analysis? Did they know exactly where everybody lived? (pre-knowledge?) Did they fly to the Middle East and kick down doors and get lucky swabing 1.6 billion Arabs?

Wake up. Cant you see the whole story was bullshit? How bout some Jet DNA cause they never found a big enough sample to identify the aircraft!
 
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