The biggest beneficiary of the Kaplan arrest could be.....
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Trust me JC the "Little Fish" will benefit the most from the arrest. When the case is presented at trial the DOJ case against the little people gets fried out in the fat. Actually, the jurors take pride in thowing a few back into the sea. It helps them sleep at nite.
Trust me JC the "Little Fish" will benefit the most from the arrest. When the case is presented at trial the DOJ case against the little people gets fried out in the fat. Actually, the jurors take pride in thowing a few back into the sea. It helps them sleep at nite.
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Furthermore, now that the the Big Fish is caught there is nothing to be sold. Supply and demand is no longer a commodity. All will go to trial.
Furthermore, now that the the Big Fish is caught there is nothing to be sold. Supply and demand is no longer a commodity. All will go to trial.
frankjohnson
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The suck ass bitches stole hundreds of millions of dollars. All the doj has done is fuck its own citizens and it appears they don't give a shit. I heard about betonsports on the radio and thought it was legal when I sent them money. Commie bastards.
The suck ass bitches stole hundreds of millions of dollars. All the doj has done is fuck its own citizens and it appears they don't give a shit. I heard about betonsports on the radio and thought it was legal when I sent them money. Commie bastards.
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JC - Do you think they will offer Carruthers a deal?
He was the one constantly thumbing his nose at the US regarding regulation but I am sure they want Kaplan to be the poster child since he has supposed connections to the mob. I say that based on the other round ups that went down like "bet the duck" and some of the other pay per head shops working out of the mall.
JC - Do you think they will offer Carruthers a deal?
He was the one constantly thumbing his nose at the US regarding regulation but I am sure they want Kaplan to be the poster child since he has supposed connections to the mob. I say that based on the other round ups that went down like "bet the duck" and some of the other pay per head shops working out of the mall.
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This should get very interesting.
Unless they try them on theft, I dont think they get convictions. These guys have the WTO decisions behind them and its not gonna be that easy to get a jury to convict.
JC got railroaded. Most accept a plea.
I hope all of these people, neteller, etc... go to trial.
If there is one thing I know, the DOJ does not want 20 cases testing the wire act. Not every jury will be railroaded by a judge.
Sean
This should get very interesting.
Unless they try them on theft, I dont think they get convictions. These guys have the WTO decisions behind them and its not gonna be that easy to get a jury to convict.
JC got railroaded. Most accept a plea.
I hope all of these people, neteller, etc... go to trial.
If there is one thing I know, the DOJ does not want 20 cases testing the wire act. Not every jury will be railroaded by a judge.
Sean
The General
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I'd like to know the details of Gary's capture out of curiosity.
I'd like to know the details of Gary's capture out of curiosity.
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They are trying this case in the most conservative count/jurisdiction because the juror pool is in the governments favor.
They are trying this case in the most conservative count/jurisdiction because the juror pool is in the governments favor.
wrigley
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BetOnSports gambling Web site founder Stephen Kaplan is arrested in Dominican Republic
March 30, 2007 - 9:50AM
AdvertisementBetOnSports gambling website founder Stephen Kaplan was arrested late Wednesday in the Dominican Republic, according to a federal prosecutor.
U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway is prosecuting a case against BetOnSports PLC in St. Louis federal court. Kaplan is named in a 22-count criminal case as the company's top official.
Hanaway said Kaplan was arrested at a hotel in Santo Domingo by the Dominican National Police, the U.S. State Department and the FBI.
"This was a worldwide search, and thanks to the assistance of many law enforcement agencies this fugitive will soon be back in St. Louis to face the charges against him," Hanaway said in a statement.
BetOnSports Chief Executive David Carruthers remains under house arrest in a suburb of St. Louis. He was arrested in July, shortly after Hanaway unsealed the criminal indictment against the London-based company, which is publicly traded.
The case has been closely watched by the online gambling industry, which generates about $6 billion annually in the United States.
Jeffrey Demerath, an attorney representing BetOnSports in St. Louis, said he had no comment on Kaplan's arrest or the criminal case Friday.
A U.S. judge in Puerto Rico ordered Kaplan to remain in custody Friday as authorities seek to return him to St. Louis to face racketeering charges.
Hanaway's spokeswoman Jan Diltz said a hearing on Kaplan's detention will be held in Puerto Rico on April 4th.
The indictment charges Carruthers and Kaplan with felony racketeering and fraud. The charges are filed using a 1960s-era law known as the Wire Act that prohibits placing bets on sports events over the phone.
Originally designed to crack down on mobsters, the law has become a tool for U.S. prosecutors to charge offshore Internet gambling operations.
Hanaway's office and BetOnSports reached a settlement in November that permanently bars the company from accepting any bets from gamblers in the U.S.
While the settlement ended a civil case Hanaway filed against BetOnSports, it has no effect on the criminal case.
The federal indictment against Kaplan alleges that he founded an illegal gambling operation in New York in 1992. After being caught, he moved his operation overseas and opened BetOnSports offices in Costa Rica between 1996 and 1997, according to the indictment.
During an interview with The Associated Press this summer, Hanaway said Kaplan and others in the online gambling business purposely structure their companies to make prosecution more difficult.
BetOnSports gambling Web site founder Stephen Kaplan is arrested in Dominican Republic
March 30, 2007 - 9:50AM
AdvertisementBetOnSports gambling website founder Stephen Kaplan was arrested late Wednesday in the Dominican Republic, according to a federal prosecutor.
U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway is prosecuting a case against BetOnSports PLC in St. Louis federal court. Kaplan is named in a 22-count criminal case as the company's top official.
Hanaway said Kaplan was arrested at a hotel in Santo Domingo by the Dominican National Police, the U.S. State Department and the FBI.
"This was a worldwide search, and thanks to the assistance of many law enforcement agencies this fugitive will soon be back in St. Louis to face the charges against him," Hanaway said in a statement.
BetOnSports Chief Executive David Carruthers remains under house arrest in a suburb of St. Louis. He was arrested in July, shortly after Hanaway unsealed the criminal indictment against the London-based company, which is publicly traded.
The case has been closely watched by the online gambling industry, which generates about $6 billion annually in the United States.
Jeffrey Demerath, an attorney representing BetOnSports in St. Louis, said he had no comment on Kaplan's arrest or the criminal case Friday.
A U.S. judge in Puerto Rico ordered Kaplan to remain in custody Friday as authorities seek to return him to St. Louis to face racketeering charges.
Hanaway's spokeswoman Jan Diltz said a hearing on Kaplan's detention will be held in Puerto Rico on April 4th.
The indictment charges Carruthers and Kaplan with felony racketeering and fraud. The charges are filed using a 1960s-era law known as the Wire Act that prohibits placing bets on sports events over the phone.
Originally designed to crack down on mobsters, the law has become a tool for U.S. prosecutors to charge offshore Internet gambling operations.
Hanaway's office and BetOnSports reached a settlement in November that permanently bars the company from accepting any bets from gamblers in the U.S.
While the settlement ended a civil case Hanaway filed against BetOnSports, it has no effect on the criminal case.
The federal indictment against Kaplan alleges that he founded an illegal gambling operation in New York in 1992. After being caught, he moved his operation overseas and opened BetOnSports offices in Costa Rica between 1996 and 1997, according to the indictment.
During an interview with The Associated Press this summer, Hanaway said Kaplan and others in the online gambling business purposely structure their companies to make prosecution more difficult.
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I find it interesting that although Kaplan was apprehended on Wednesday, the news of the arrest was not made public until after the announcement of the WTO ruling two days later.
Mason
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The timing of the WTO decision and Kaplan's arrest is no coincidence they held the news on purpose.
As for the trial, there has never been any love lost between Carruthers and Kaplan. You can be 100% certain Carruthers will sing like canary. I doubt Kaplan's brother/sister will give up more than they have to. Brown doesn't have much to offer regarding Kaplan.
The timing of the WTO decision and Kaplan's arrest is no coincidence they held the news on purpose.
As for the trial, there has never been any love lost between Carruthers and Kaplan. You can be 100% certain Carruthers will sing like canary. I doubt Kaplan's brother/sister will give up more than they have to. Brown doesn't have much to offer regarding Kaplan.
Pauly Ponzi
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Bullshit. The whole trial will be about all that money flowing out of the States into the hands of gangsters. Citizens don't like that. The Bos defendants are toast. These people saying Ayre is next are correct.
Bullshit. The whole trial will be about all that money flowing out of the States into the hands of gangsters. Citizens don't like that. The Bos defendants are toast. These people saying Ayre is next are correct.
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Yes, logically it would seem that Ayre is next, but there are some issues with that.
They could have, and can, pick up Ayre anytime. Certainly Canada will hand him over when the US eventually asks. Costa Rica will, and even Antigua will even if it is necessary for the US to grease some pockets there to get it done.
There is something about Calvin that is different. It seems to me that it serves DOJ's purposes to leave him out in circulation. Why? Normally this is done when the supposed target is actually working for law enforcement. Who could Ayre be giving up...what kind of DOJ investigation could he have agreed to co-operate on? That all depends on the real story behind Calvin now.
Certainly Calvin will sing when he goes inside. He'll remember things that never even happened. Many of them. I'm fairly sure that he'll remember things about me that never even happened.
Another reason for delay may be DOJ trying to mitigate the losses to online gamblers who have deposits with Bodog. They may still be following the money trail and may want to pounce on the cash before hauling Calvin in, because if they don't, those deposits are going to vanish into someone else's hands. Although DOJ hasn't really given a shite about losses to online gamblers in their previous busts.
Either he's knowingly working with the feds, or is to stupid to know he is and its more to their benefit to watch his game than end it.
Yes, logically it would seem that Ayre is next, but there are some issues with that.
They could have, and can, pick up Ayre anytime. Certainly Canada will hand him over when the US eventually asks. Costa Rica will, and even Antigua will even if it is necessary for the US to grease some pockets there to get it done.
There is something about Calvin that is different. It seems to me that it serves DOJ's purposes to leave him out in circulation. Why? Normally this is done when the supposed target is actually working for law enforcement. Who could Ayre be giving up...what kind of DOJ investigation could he have agreed to co-operate on? That all depends on the real story behind Calvin now.
Certainly Calvin will sing when he goes inside. He'll remember things that never even happened. Many of them. I'm fairly sure that he'll remember things about me that never even happened.
Another reason for delay may be DOJ trying to mitigate the losses to online gamblers who have deposits with Bodog. They may still be following the money trail and may want to pounce on the cash before hauling Calvin in, because if they don't, those deposits are going to vanish into someone else's hands. Although DOJ hasn't really given a shite about losses to online gamblers in their previous busts.
Either he's knowingly working with the feds, or is to stupid to know he is and its more to their benefit to watch his game than end it.
Pauly Ponzi
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Hmmmn. Makes a guy wonder. Not going to the States would give him credibility. He's slippery. I read in this article he walked away from a huge drug bust in the late eighties in which several others others went to the big house. Vancouver Sun article cast dark shadow over Bodog.com Founder Calvin Ayre A more likely scenario is the State Dept. wants to bust him now to show the world what kind of fellow the Antiguans are licensing. I mean, come on, Antigua. Ayre is only half way through a twenty year ban for stock fraud. For thieveing, basically. The timing would be right. But yes, ColdEyeMe, your scenario makes more sense, given Ayre's seeming lack of concern. We'll see.
Hmmmn. Makes a guy wonder. Not going to the States would give him credibility. He's slippery. I read in this article he walked away from a huge drug bust in the late eighties in which several others others went to the big house. Vancouver Sun article cast dark shadow over Bodog.com Founder Calvin Ayre A more likely scenario is the State Dept. wants to bust him now to show the world what kind of fellow the Antiguans are licensing. I mean, come on, Antigua. Ayre is only half way through a twenty year ban for stock fraud. For thieveing, basically. The timing would be right. But yes, ColdEyeMe, your scenario makes more sense, given Ayre's seeming lack of concern. We'll see.
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No one benefits as much as the DOJ...
No one benefits as much as the DOJ...
Pauly Ponzi
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Costa Rica is no longer safe. That's why he went to Antigua. You watch, when Ayre goes down, so will the top Bodog people in CR. Ayre didn't leave to Antigua for business reasons, he no longer felt safe in CR. I thought it was common knowledge that CR is no longer the safe haven. That's why I can't believe Antigua will jeopardize everything to shield Ayre. Maybe he really is undercover. Bond. Calvin Bond
Costa Rica is no longer safe. That's why he went to Antigua. You watch, when Ayre goes down, so will the top Bodog people in CR. Ayre didn't leave to Antigua for business reasons, he no longer felt safe in CR. I thought it was common knowledge that CR is no longer the safe haven. That's why I can't believe Antigua will jeopardize everything to shield Ayre. Maybe he really is undercover. Bond. Calvin Bond
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I know most of the old crowd who know Calvin and I think I'm the reason he drives around in a bulletproof hummer and has "former Gulf War snipers" as bodyguards. (I guess he sees some kind of confrontation where snipers might come in handy), but I think he has crossed people much less subtle than me when it comes to payback. That supports the theory that he's working with DOJ.
Maybe DOJ left him on the loose for exactly that purpose, discrediting Antigua and getting a reversal of the WTO decision.
I know most of the old crowd who know Calvin and I think I'm the reason he drives around in a bulletproof hummer and has "former Gulf War snipers" as bodyguards. (I guess he sees some kind of confrontation where snipers might come in handy), but I think he has crossed people much less subtle than me when it comes to payback. That supports the theory that he's working with DOJ.
Maybe DOJ left him on the loose for exactly that purpose, discrediting Antigua and getting a reversal of the WTO decision.
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Get over your love affair with Calvin. It gets old and you have ZERO credibility since there is an OBVIOUS conflict of interest.
Who cares if Calvin sold POT and was smart enough to get away with it and you weren't! It should be legalized anyways just like online gambling.:finger004
Get over your love affair with Calvin. It gets old and you have ZERO credibility since there is an OBVIOUS conflict of interest.
Who cares if Calvin sold POT and was smart enough to get away with it and you weren't! It should be legalized anyways just like online gambling.:finger004
Pauly Ponzi
EOG Member
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Nobody cares if he sold pot, but you should care if he is a stock swindler. He sold worthless stocks in the hundreds of thousands to friends and acquaintances. Do you think he cares if gamblers don't get paid when it's all over for him. The future of online gambling is indeed bleak when people like youcontinue to act as though Ayre should be someone to be admired. He is a con man and a damn good one. Check out this article. If you admire or support Calvin Ayre after reading it, you are lost. The billionaire prince of Bodog- Maclean's article - MajorWager Forums
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You know your life really sucks when you are a fat 60 year old sitting in misery in some trailer in Canada making up multiple posting handles just to talk to yourself. :doh1
You know your life really sucks when you are a fat 60 year old sitting in misery in some trailer in Canada making up multiple posting handles just to talk to yourself. :doh1
BIGGIE-smalls
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Ayres is probably lining the Governments pockets:cocktail
Ayres is probably lining the Governments pockets:cocktail
The General
Another Day, Another Dollar
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Coldeye & Pauly, welcome to EOG.
My opinion is that if the US DOJ wants you, They will get you, Unless you are a nomad and can handle the terrain in the mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Coldeye & Pauly, welcome to EOG.
My opinion is that if the US DOJ wants you, They will get you, Unless you are a nomad and can handle the terrain in the mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Mason
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Some buzz circulating that Kaplan may have allowed the DOJ a 'victory capture' after first cutting a deal to get his brother/sister a fair shake. Nothing substantiated but an interesting theory.
He had Interpol on him, not just the Feds remember. Where the hell was he going to hide? When a Jew can't hide in Israel he's in serious trouble!! Those that laugh about Kaplan being in the DR....He has heavy duty connections there. Remember he moved roughly 1/4 of BOS' operations there.
Politcians, military, good guys, bad guys, you name it he was in with them. He knew the lay of the land well, not like he was some dipshit on vacation who just never thought they would look for him in the DR.
Some buzz circulating that Kaplan may have allowed the DOJ a 'victory capture' after first cutting a deal to get his brother/sister a fair shake. Nothing substantiated but an interesting theory.
He had Interpol on him, not just the Feds remember. Where the hell was he going to hide? When a Jew can't hide in Israel he's in serious trouble!! Those that laugh about Kaplan being in the DR....He has heavy duty connections there. Remember he moved roughly 1/4 of BOS' operations there.
Politcians, military, good guys, bad guys, you name it he was in with them. He knew the lay of the land well, not like he was some dipshit on vacation who just never thought they would look for him in the DR.
Pauly Ponzi
EOG Member
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Inside, Guy. Sounds like a term of endearment this Ted Haggard guy whispers to his buddy Ayre as he pulls his butt cheeks apart. What was Haggard famous for, I forget? The MacLean's article clearly illustrates what an immature person Ayre really is. And Ted Haggard likes him. What a joke!
Inside, Guy. Sounds like a term of endearment this Ted Haggard guy whispers to his buddy Ayre as he pulls his butt cheeks apart. What was Haggard famous for, I forget? The MacLean's article clearly illustrates what an immature person Ayre really is. And Ted Haggard likes him. What a joke!
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The overriding question is why the US is suddenly so rared up about online gambling. And BC Bud as well.
I don't know the answer. I guess one theory is that these are cash drains from the US economy. Bud sends about $20 billion a year to Canada, offset by the dandruff they send up here. I don't know what gambling takes out of the economy. Maybe the US operators with brick and mortar casinos really feel they are getting less and less revenue and want the government to do something.
The overriding question is why the US is suddenly so rared up about online gambling. And BC Bud as well.
I don't know the answer. I guess one theory is that these are cash drains from the US economy. Bud sends about $20 billion a year to Canada, offset by the dandruff they send up here. I don't know what gambling takes out of the economy. Maybe the US operators with brick and mortar casinos really feel they are getting less and less revenue and want the government to do something.
Pauly Ponzi
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Gary Kaplan. Nothing more stressful than life on the lam, I'll bet. He would have known at all times that an arrest was just around the corner, always a heartbeat away from capture. He's probably relieved. Now he can begin the process of eventually returning to a point in his life where his legal troubles are behind him. It remains to be seen just how long his freedom will be on hold. Like him or loathe him, not a good time for Kaplan.
Gary Kaplan. Nothing more stressful than life on the lam, I'll bet. He would have known at all times that an arrest was just around the corner, always a heartbeat away from capture. He's probably relieved. Now he can begin the process of eventually returning to a point in his life where his legal troubles are behind him. It remains to be seen just how long his freedom will be on hold. Like him or loathe him, not a good time for Kaplan.
JC
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Last I heard the best they were offering any of them were open 20 year sentences. I guess that means you take the deal and the judge can give you up to 20 years.
Last I heard the best they were offering any of them were open 20 year sentences. I guess that means you take the deal and the judge can give you up to 20 years.
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Or unless you are an Irish citizen living in Ireland. Last I heard, only two of the last 23 US extradition requests were granted, and I expect that wasn't for Irish citizens.
The majority of countries in the world do not extradite their own citizens and their extradition treaties with the US specify that.
Or unless you are an Irish citizen living in Ireland. Last I heard, only two of the last 23 US extradition requests were granted, and I expect that wasn't for Irish citizens.
The majority of countries in the world do not extradite their own citizens and their extradition treaties with the US specify that.
The General
Another Day, Another Dollar
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Welcome to EOG, FriscoKid. I am concerned that no one player will be paid their balances let alone deposits from BOS.
Welcome to EOG, FriscoKid. I am concerned that no one player will be paid their balances let alone deposits from BOS.
detroitdennis
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WOW 20YRS. WHY DID RON SACCO ONLY GET A COUPLE OF YEARS AND NOW HE IS BACK IN THE MIX
WOW 20YRS. WHY DID RON SACCO ONLY GET A COUPLE OF YEARS AND NOW HE IS BACK IN THE MIX