Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
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Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Why do you think they are doing this?
Why do you think they are doing this?
I Am Legend
EOG Member
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
I get their plays sometimes but never any writeups. They just list which teams to play.
I get their plays sometimes but never any writeups. They just list which teams to play.
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Hello Russ
I tallied up his plays from the OK Sports Monitor and for PPP they go way back to the 80's and he was under 52% for the non-baseball sports (my baseball records are normally very limited and require a different method to add things up than the others so I did not here). Over at Who2beton is he is 53% including baseball across all sports including baseball (but I have NO idea how they grade so this could easily be inflated) over the last 3 years.
I had contacted Gavazzi regarding his records. He said he was 56-58% in every sport every year. When I told him that 2 monitored sources had him across thousands of picks at far less he said that his picks are not necessarily the same as those he gives the monitor and they are weighted differently as well. I of course was alarmed and did not believe that such a strong subset was withheld from not one but two monitors. I tabulated hs higher graded plays and they were indeed higher but still the majority of his plays were 3* and under and this meant these were doing awful. I inquired again and showed him my work on his 4* and ups, to show I was a serious client and really wanted to know how he's done, but he said that he would not divulge his strategy for releasing plays to monitors. I asked again but he would not reveal his top-secret strategy he uses that gets him 57% in his own "recordkeeping" versus his publicly documented record of under 52%.
When a capper won't stand by his record and gives select tiny samples he can not win. When he tries to convince you that he can win despite all the contrary evidence, and won't even discuss his own theory of why the contrary evidence is "incorrect" he is a fraud. From Wikipedia, in the broadest sense, a fraud is a deception made for personal gain...John Cooke Fraud Report offers a three word fraud definition: "Gain Through Misrepresentation."
Joeflex
Hello Russ
I tallied up his plays from the OK Sports Monitor and for PPP they go way back to the 80's and he was under 52% for the non-baseball sports (my baseball records are normally very limited and require a different method to add things up than the others so I did not here). Over at Who2beton is he is 53% including baseball across all sports including baseball (but I have NO idea how they grade so this could easily be inflated) over the last 3 years.
I had contacted Gavazzi regarding his records. He said he was 56-58% in every sport every year. When I told him that 2 monitored sources had him across thousands of picks at far less he said that his picks are not necessarily the same as those he gives the monitor and they are weighted differently as well. I of course was alarmed and did not believe that such a strong subset was withheld from not one but two monitors. I tabulated hs higher graded plays and they were indeed higher but still the majority of his plays were 3* and under and this meant these were doing awful. I inquired again and showed him my work on his 4* and ups, to show I was a serious client and really wanted to know how he's done, but he said that he would not divulge his strategy for releasing plays to monitors. I asked again but he would not reveal his top-secret strategy he uses that gets him 57% in his own "recordkeeping" versus his publicly documented record of under 52%.
When a capper won't stand by his record and gives select tiny samples he can not win. When he tries to convince you that he can win despite all the contrary evidence, and won't even discuss his own theory of why the contrary evidence is "incorrect" he is a fraud. From Wikipedia, in the broadest sense, a fraud is a deception made for personal gain...John Cooke Fraud Report offers a three word fraud definition: "Gain Through Misrepresentation."
Joeflex
kelp0027
EOG Dedicated
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
..
..one thing i am sure of:
that buffet (whoever he is); is a real capper; and one of the few cappers i would pay real money for their pix; but;
more importantly; after 35 years of degenerate gambling; i thought i had heard just about every angle, dangle, edge-gaining idea; there wuz, but buffett has a gr8 idea in every write-up every day..!!
a tyro could do worse that just going over his write-ups (all his threads at eog this year..!!)
all his write-ups are a valuable education unto themselves; i do not agree with every one of his points, but man; he gets ya' thinkin'..!!
my guess is buffett will be successfull at most or all of his ventures in life (exceptin' maybe tha' ladies..!!)
lol
jmho
(culver ain't no slouch either)..!
gl
:+whipping :doh1
..
..one thing i am sure of:
that buffet (whoever he is); is a real capper; and one of the few cappers i would pay real money for their pix; but;
more importantly; after 35 years of degenerate gambling; i thought i had heard just about every angle, dangle, edge-gaining idea; there wuz, but buffett has a gr8 idea in every write-up every day..!!
a tyro could do worse that just going over his write-ups (all his threads at eog this year..!!)
all his write-ups are a valuable education unto themselves; i do not agree with every one of his points, but man; he gets ya' thinkin'..!!
my guess is buffett will be successfull at most or all of his ventures in life (exceptin' maybe tha' ladies..!!)
lol
jmho
(culver ain't no slouch either)..!
gl
:+whipping :doh1
Culver
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Another amazing coincidink. It would be great if Joe Gavazzi would come in here and post his last couple of weeks of baseball plays to clear his name.
Let's see if that ever happens.
Another amazing coincidink. It would be great if Joe Gavazzi would come in here and post his last couple of weeks of baseball plays to clear his name.
Let's see if that ever happens.
idiotspayforpick
EOG Dedicated
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
I don't think we'll ever see that happen Russ.
I don't think we'll ever see that happen Russ.
akillies
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
monday 4/16
ppp
2% mIl
2% SD
5 Innings
2% Mil
buffet
mets
mil
sd
lad
sf
4/14
Gavazzi
3%Chicago Cubs
2% Baltimore
5 Innings
2% Cubs
2% Giants
buffet
cub
balt
fla
mil
4/13
PPP
3% Angels
2% Houston
2% Pittsburgh
2% Baltimore
5 Innings
2% Florida
2% Dodgers
buffet
cub
pitt
astro
balt
fla
stl
lad
laa
sea
4/03
PPP
3% colorado
2% milwaukee
5 innings
2% Colorado
2% Milwaukee
buffet
sd
mil
pitt
colo
minn
laa
4/04
ppp
3% Angels
3% Sd
2% Philly
2% KC
5 inning
2% UNDER SF
buffet
tb
det
chisox
colo
laa
kc
oak
sd
cinn
monday 4/16
ppp
2% mIl
2% SD
5 Innings
2% Mil
buffet
mets
mil
sd
lad
sf
4/14
Gavazzi
3%Chicago Cubs
2% Baltimore
5 Innings
2% Cubs
2% Giants
buffet
cub
balt
fla
mil
4/13
PPP
3% Angels
2% Houston
2% Pittsburgh
2% Baltimore
5 Innings
2% Florida
2% Dodgers
buffet
cub
pitt
astro
balt
fla
stl
lad
laa
sea
4/03
PPP
3% colorado
2% milwaukee
5 innings
2% Colorado
2% Milwaukee
buffet
sd
mil
pitt
colo
minn
laa
4/04
ppp
3% Angels
3% Sd
2% Philly
2% KC
5 inning
2% UNDER SF
buffet
tb
det
chisox
colo
laa
kc
oak
sd
cinn
Hal01
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Where the hell did PPP come up with this one? Oh well, it lost!:LMAO
Where the hell did PPP come up with this one? Oh well, it lost!:LMAO
Hal01
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Perhaps we should let these jokers exactly how we feel! Express your displeasure at comments@thegreengorilla.com
Perhaps we should let these jokers exactly how we feel! Express your displeasure at comments@thegreengorilla.com
Micelli
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Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
thanks for the addy, they have just heard from me
thanks for the addy, they have just heard from me
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
This is now all over GOOGLE NEWS...
Touts: Joe Gavazzi Allegedly Stealing Baseball Picks from Poster
written April 21, 2007
It has been brought to our attention that someone affiliated with the Private Players Club of Pittsburgh, namely Joe Gavazzi appears to be stealing Baseball Picks from a poster who provides FREE plays with write ups on a couple of posting forums, one of them being EOG.com.
Here's what the poster had to say about the blatant similarity of his picks. It is pertinent to note that the poster's plays are usually released several hours before Joe Gavazzi's are.
"It was brought to my attention elsewhere that my picks this year have been very similar to those of Private Players of Pittsburgh, mainly Joe Gavazzi. I was wondering if you know about his history or background as the similarities of picks are potentially beyond coincidence, and he may be using my plays.
His plays today were:
Cubs
Mets
Pirates
Angels
Blue Jays
Mine were:
Cubs
Mets
Pirates
Angels
Blue Jays
Twins
White Sox
His plays Monday were (I don't yet have access to yesterday's picks)
Brewers
Padres
Mine were:
Brewers
Padres
Dodgers
Giants
His plays Saturday ( I don't have access to Sunday's picks)
Cubs
Orioles
Mine were
Cubs
Orioles
Brewers
I then see his plays on this link with more similarities.
http://www.who2beton.com/records.php (owned and operated by Lawrence Rabies)
His plays 4/10
Dodgers
Diamondbacks
Twins
Blue Jays
Devil Rays
My Plays 4/10
Dodgers
Diamondbacks
Twins
Blue Jays
Devil Rays
Mariners
Padres
His Plays 4/6
Giants
Brewers
Devil Rays
Diamondbacks ( only documented pick thus far that I didn't have)
My Plays 4/6
Giants
Brewers
Devil Rays
Braves
4/5 His Plays
Cubs
Diamondbacks
4/5 My Plays
Cubs
White Sox
4/4 His Plays
Padres
Royals
Phillies
Angels
Rockies
White Sox
4/4 My Plays
Padres
Royals
Angels
Rockies
White Sox
Reds
Tigers
4/3 His Plays
Rockies
Brewers
4/3 My Plays
Rockies
Brewers
6 others
In my opinion, it is quite apparent that the similarities are beyond mere coincidence.
Here's what one other EOG poster had to say regarding this matter.
"I tallied up his plays from the OK Sports Monitor and for PPP they go way back to the 80's and he was under 52% for the non-baseball sports (my baseball records are normally very limited and require a different method to add things up than the others so I did not here). Over at Who2beton is he is 53% including baseball across all sports including baseball (but I have NO idea how they grade so this could easily be inflated) over the last 3 years.
I had contacted Gavazzi regarding his records. He said he was 56-58% in every sport every year. When I told him that 2 monitored sources had him across thousands of picks at far less he said that his picks are not necessarily the same as those he gives the monitor and they are weighted differently as well. I of course was alarmed and did not believe that such a strong subset was withheld from not one but two monitors. I tabulated hs higher graded plays and they were indeed higher but still the majority of his plays were 3* and under and this meant these were doing awful. I inquired again and showed him my work on his 4* and ups, to show I was a serious client and really wanted to know how he's done, but he said that he would not divulge his strategy for releasing plays to monitors. I asked again but he would not reveal his top-secret strategy he uses that gets him 57% in his own "recordkeeping" versus his publicly documented record of under 52%.
When a capper won't stand by his record and gives select tiny samples he can not win. When he tries to convince you that he can win despite all the contrary evidence, and won't even discuss his own theory of why the contrary evidence is "incorrect" he is a fraud. From Wikipedia, in the broadest sense, a fraud is a deception made for personal gain...John Cooke Fraud Report offers a three word fraud definition: "Gain Through Misrepresentation."
Is this a coincidence? We think not, but you make the call.
This is now all over GOOGLE NEWS...
Touts: Joe Gavazzi Allegedly Stealing Baseball Picks from Poster
written April 21, 2007
It has been brought to our attention that someone affiliated with the Private Players Club of Pittsburgh, namely Joe Gavazzi appears to be stealing Baseball Picks from a poster who provides FREE plays with write ups on a couple of posting forums, one of them being EOG.com.
Here's what the poster had to say about the blatant similarity of his picks. It is pertinent to note that the poster's plays are usually released several hours before Joe Gavazzi's are.
"It was brought to my attention elsewhere that my picks this year have been very similar to those of Private Players of Pittsburgh, mainly Joe Gavazzi. I was wondering if you know about his history or background as the similarities of picks are potentially beyond coincidence, and he may be using my plays.
His plays today were:
Cubs
Mets
Pirates
Angels
Blue Jays
Mine were:
Cubs
Mets
Pirates
Angels
Blue Jays
Twins
White Sox
His plays Monday were (I don't yet have access to yesterday's picks)
Brewers
Padres
Mine were:
Brewers
Padres
Dodgers
Giants
His plays Saturday ( I don't have access to Sunday's picks)
Cubs
Orioles
Mine were
Cubs
Orioles
Brewers
I then see his plays on this link with more similarities.
http://www.who2beton.com/records.php (owned and operated by Lawrence Rabies)
His plays 4/10
Dodgers
Diamondbacks
Twins
Blue Jays
Devil Rays
My Plays 4/10
Dodgers
Diamondbacks
Twins
Blue Jays
Devil Rays
Mariners
Padres
His Plays 4/6
Giants
Brewers
Devil Rays
Diamondbacks ( only documented pick thus far that I didn't have)
My Plays 4/6
Giants
Brewers
Devil Rays
Braves
4/5 His Plays
Cubs
Diamondbacks
4/5 My Plays
Cubs
White Sox
4/4 His Plays
Padres
Royals
Phillies
Angels
Rockies
White Sox
4/4 My Plays
Padres
Royals
Angels
Rockies
White Sox
Reds
Tigers
4/3 His Plays
Rockies
Brewers
4/3 My Plays
Rockies
Brewers
6 others
In my opinion, it is quite apparent that the similarities are beyond mere coincidence.
Here's what one other EOG poster had to say regarding this matter.
"I tallied up his plays from the OK Sports Monitor and for PPP they go way back to the 80's and he was under 52% for the non-baseball sports (my baseball records are normally very limited and require a different method to add things up than the others so I did not here). Over at Who2beton is he is 53% including baseball across all sports including baseball (but I have NO idea how they grade so this could easily be inflated) over the last 3 years.
I had contacted Gavazzi regarding his records. He said he was 56-58% in every sport every year. When I told him that 2 monitored sources had him across thousands of picks at far less he said that his picks are not necessarily the same as those he gives the monitor and they are weighted differently as well. I of course was alarmed and did not believe that such a strong subset was withheld from not one but two monitors. I tabulated hs higher graded plays and they were indeed higher but still the majority of his plays were 3* and under and this meant these were doing awful. I inquired again and showed him my work on his 4* and ups, to show I was a serious client and really wanted to know how he's done, but he said that he would not divulge his strategy for releasing plays to monitors. I asked again but he would not reveal his top-secret strategy he uses that gets him 57% in his own "recordkeeping" versus his publicly documented record of under 52%.
When a capper won't stand by his record and gives select tiny samples he can not win. When he tries to convince you that he can win despite all the contrary evidence, and won't even discuss his own theory of why the contrary evidence is "incorrect" he is a fraud. From Wikipedia, in the broadest sense, a fraud is a deception made for personal gain...John Cooke Fraud Report offers a three word fraud definition: "Gain Through Misrepresentation."
Is this a coincidence? We think not, but you make the call.
Hal01
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
You are correct: private players of pittsburgh - Google News
Good stuff!
You are correct: private players of pittsburgh - Google News
Good stuff!
idiotspayforpick
EOG Dedicated
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
cheap muthafucka
cheap muthafucka
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
That's only the beginning. I know the owner of who2beton quite well and hopefully, he will help put this to an end...
Ken
That's only the beginning. I know the owner of who2beton quite well and hopefully, he will help put this to an end...
Ken
Hal01
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Bump:+whipping . Send them a note guys. Be professional.
Bump:+whipping . Send them a note guys. Be professional.
ChicagoHotsides
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
I KNOW for a fact this sort of thing happenns. Back when I was selling my selections all across the country, one of this guys cronies, at the 'High Rollers Hotline', Bryan Leonard, used to buy my 5* NBA bets (legit. 70% winners on those (my top play)) and then re sell them. I put a stop to that by buying all his picks & releasing them for FREE on my comp line...:finger004
Bunch of scum out there guys...
Also, I know from his own mouth Joe does NOT bet...at all.
:+textinb3
I KNOW for a fact this sort of thing happenns. Back when I was selling my selections all across the country, one of this guys cronies, at the 'High Rollers Hotline', Bryan Leonard, used to buy my 5* NBA bets (legit. 70% winners on those (my top play)) and then re sell them. I put a stop to that by buying all his picks & releasing them for FREE on my comp line...:finger004
Bunch of scum out there guys...
Also, I know from his own mouth Joe does NOT bet...at all.
:+textinb3
Cobbler
EOG Addicted
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Ken, while you are on the "plagiarism" warpath, how about taking a look at your front page?
Here's one stolen article:
Sports Betting at Eye On Gambling - Discuss Online Sportsbooks; Handicapping; and Free Picks
Here's another:
Sports Betting at Eye On Gambling - Discuss Online Sportsbooks; Handicapping; and Free Picks
And another:
Sports Betting at Eye On Gambling - Discuss Online Sportsbooks; Handicapping; and Free Picks
The hypocrisy would be sad if it wasn't so fucking amusing.
Ken, while you are on the "plagiarism" warpath, how about taking a look at your front page?
Here's one stolen article:
Sports Betting at Eye On Gambling - Discuss Online Sportsbooks; Handicapping; and Free Picks
Here's another:
Sports Betting at Eye On Gambling - Discuss Online Sportsbooks; Handicapping; and Free Picks
And another:
Sports Betting at Eye On Gambling - Discuss Online Sportsbooks; Handicapping; and Free Picks
The hypocrisy would be sad if it wasn't so fucking amusing.
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Cobbler,
Please don't hijack this thread with lies. EOG pays Bang Entertainment monthly to be able to reprint their columns with copyright permission...
They send those to us from philiphamilton@bangshowbiz.com....
Cobbler,
Please don't hijack this thread with lies. EOG pays Bang Entertainment monthly to be able to reprint their columns with copyright permission...
They send those to us from philiphamilton@bangshowbiz.com....
Hal01
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Can't find the notation: Written by Shrink? Where does it say that he authored these articles? They all appear to give credit to the source!:doh1
Can't find the notation: Written by Shrink? Where does it say that he authored these articles? They all appear to give credit to the source!:doh1
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Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
JOE GAVAZZI REPLIES BY EMAIL IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER:
For the last month I've been "yanking the chair" of Forum readers at all sites. This includes putting out phony selections, partial selections, misrated selections, and selections of others - all attributable to my name.
By this time you should understand YOU CAN NEVER TRUST ANY SELECTIONS YOU SEE ATTRIBUTED TO MY NAME AT ANY SITE. I feel no obligation to provide my selections to any non - paying clients, and will continue to from time to time, provide false information.
If you want my selections, call 1-800-678-7529. In the meantime. I appreciate the FREE ADVERTISING OF MY SERVICES. 1-800-678-7259 or College/NFL football and basketball sport betting and free picks
Thanks for the inquiry.
Joe Gavazzi PPoP
JOE GAVAZZI REPLIES BY EMAIL IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER:
For the last month I've been "yanking the chair" of Forum readers at all sites. This includes putting out phony selections, partial selections, misrated selections, and selections of others - all attributable to my name.
By this time you should understand YOU CAN NEVER TRUST ANY SELECTIONS YOU SEE ATTRIBUTED TO MY NAME AT ANY SITE. I feel no obligation to provide my selections to any non - paying clients, and will continue to from time to time, provide false information.
If you want my selections, call 1-800-678-7529. In the meantime. I appreciate the FREE ADVERTISING OF MY SERVICES. 1-800-678-7259 or College/NFL football and basketball sport betting and free picks
Thanks for the inquiry.
Joe Gavazzi PPoP
Hal01
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
His phony (stolen from BuffetGambler) have done better than his true selections! :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
His phony (stolen from BuffetGambler) have done better than his true selections! :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO
idiotspayforpick
EOG Dedicated
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
good one
good one
Cobbler
EOG Addicted
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Good to hear Shrink. I apologize for the unwarrented accusation.
Good to hear Shrink. I apologize for the unwarrented accusation.
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Apology accepted...:cheers
Apology accepted...:cheers
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Is there some kind of code of ethics in the world of touts?
Be a leader, not a follower. Anyone dumb enough to buy picks deserves to be scammed.
Is there some kind of code of ethics in the world of touts?
Be a leader, not a follower. Anyone dumb enough to buy picks deserves to be scammed.
Culver
EOG Veteran
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
Really? I suppose anyone who wants to buy a used car deserves to be scammed too.
Really? I suppose anyone who wants to buy a used car deserves to be scammed too.
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
If Joe knows a live, on-the-phone cash customer is a consensus conduit, he has EVERY RIGHT to do what he said he's doing.
But there's NO WAY he's capable of screening EVERYBODY, that way.
Ergo . . . slick Joey's full of it.
If Joe knows a live, on-the-phone cash customer is a consensus conduit, he has EVERY RIGHT to do what he said he's doing.
But there's NO WAY he's capable of screening EVERYBODY, that way.
Ergo . . . slick Joey's full of it.
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
"Let the buyer beware".
"No warranty".
"If it's such a great car why would somebody be selling it".
The same could be said of the murky business of prognostication.
Anyone going to buy a used car would be foolish to not mentally stipulate the opportunity to be had.
"Let the buyer beware".
"No warranty".
"If it's such a great car why would somebody be selling it".
The same could be said of the murky business of prognostication.
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
I don't get the analogy here...
A used car lot doesn't always equal dishonesty, plaguerism and falsifying records, does it?
To me, someone is stealing a car, then LYING, CHEATING and SELLING it as their very own to anyone dumb enough to believe him...
I don't get the analogy here...
A used car lot doesn't always equal dishonesty, plaguerism and falsifying records, does it?
To me, someone is stealing a car, then LYING, CHEATING and SELLING it as their very own to anyone dumb enough to believe him...
Re: Would like some information about Private Players of Pittsburgh
A kosher deli for instance may observe far more traditions than not, but still be certified as kosher. 99% chance of integrity at the deli.
95% of prognosticators are full of crap.
No, but the opportunity for dishonesty and falsifying records in the used car business has a greater likelihood of occuring than many other business endeavours. Plaguerism would not necessarially apply. But a used car purchase can be a dicey proposition.
A kosher deli for instance may observe far more traditions than not, but still be certified as kosher. 99% chance of integrity at the deli.
95% of prognosticators are full of crap.