Anyone See Free Money Here?

Jimmy Hoffa

Jimmy Hoffa

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<TABLE style="BORDER-RIGHT: #c4c7d0 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: #c4c7d0 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #c4c7d0 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #c4c7d0 1px solid" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="98%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=7><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=TableHead-OFF vAlign=top bgColor=#ffffff><TD style="PADDING-TOP: 2px" width="100%" background=http://oddsmaker.com/products/images/odds_title_bg.gif>
2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - WINNER:​
</TD><TD width=1> </TD><TD style="PADDING-TOP: 2px" noWrap align=right background=http://oddsmaker.com/products/images/odds_date_bg.gif>2008-02-29 09:0 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=7><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=TableBodyAlt-OFF bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF>Spread</TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF width="5%"> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF>Price</TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF width="8%"> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF>Spread</TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF width="5%"> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF>Price</TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18> </TD></TR><TR class=TableBody><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
HILLARY CLINTON​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+500​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle> </TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
BARACK OBAMA​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
-125​
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JOHN MCCAIN​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+150​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle> </TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
MITT ROMNEY​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+0​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle>Off </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18 height=1> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18> </TD></TR><TR class=TableBody><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
MIKE HUCKABEE​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+7,500​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle> </TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
RON PAUL​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+8,000​
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THE FIELD​
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+1,800​
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Jimmy Hoffa

Jimmy Hoffa

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Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Here's the play:

<TABLE borderColor=black cellSpacing=0 border=0><BIG><TBODY><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Bet 1: (McCain)</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG> $720.00</BIG></TD><TD align=left> @ +150</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Bet 2: (Obama)</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG> $1,000.00</BIG></TD><TD align=left> @ -125</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=black><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Total Investment: </BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG> $1,720.00</BIG></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Total Return:</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$1,800.00</BIG></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Total Profit:</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$80</BIG></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>ROI:</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>4.65%</BIG></TD></TR></BIG><TR><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
dirty

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Jeff Jones said:
Once anybody mentions "free money" in connection with gambling, you're doomed.
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How do you figure... he makes $80 No matter how you slice it and that is a Profit last time I checked :+clueless
 
Halifax

Halifax

EOG Senior Member
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Jimmy Hoffa said:
Here's the play:

<TABLE borderColor=black cellSpacing=0 border=0><BIG><TBODY><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Bet 1: (McCain)</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$720.00</BIG></TD><TD align=left>@ +150</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Bet 2: (Obama)</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$1,000.00</BIG></TD><TD align=left>@ -125</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=black><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Total Investment: </BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$1,720.00</BIG></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Total Return:</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$1,800.00</BIG></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Total Profit:</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$80</BIG></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>ROI:</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>4.65%</BIG></TD></TR></BIG><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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-125 = Good Line on Obama

+150 = Lousy Line on McCain / Repubs .... should be able to get close to +200 on that side of the bet with some looking, +180 without looking much
 
Jeff Jones

Jeff Jones

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Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Well, as a math problem, I guess it's the right answer.

But the question is:

1) If you are the average EOG poster why are you tying up $1720 for nine months to make $80?

2) And if you are rich beyond compare, why would you do this for $80?

Fine. Do it.

You can't make it up.
 
chandler1981

chandler1981

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Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Jimmy, before I read down to your bet I was going to mention this scenerio. I didnt do the math but I appreciate you sharing! Looks like free money to me.
 
chandler1981

chandler1981

2
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

I might just take a chance on McCain pullin through.

Have you seen a future for Dem Candidate and Rep Candidate. Im sure the odds are terrible for Obama and McCain tho. Prob -550 to -800??
 
dirty

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

PSUONE said:
I know the whore is a long shot but free money?
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She has no shot... I watched the debate last night and Obama made her look like a Idiot....



chandler1981 said:
I might just take a chance on McCain pullin through.

Have you seen a future for Dem Candidate and Rep Candidate. Im sure the odds are terrible for Obama and McCain tho. Prob -550 to -800??
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McCain better become a better Public speaker.. Obama will run Circles around him in a Debate....
 
Grand Master B

Grand Master B

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Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

never a free shot when you're tying your cash up offshore for that long. Hell, online savings accounts are paying just about that much and they're federally insured.

terrible idea.
 
PSUONE

PSUONE

EOG Veteran
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Well...... wouldnt you guys just max bet Obama at -265ish for Dem at all the books?

U.S.A. ELECTIONS
U.S.A. ELECTIONS - Mar 04

DEMOCRATIC TEXAS PRIMARIE - WINNER
3 /04 /0812:00 AM
15993

BARACK OBAMA

-265



15994

HILARY CLINTON

+215



15995

THE FIELD

+2400



DEMOCRATIC OHIO PRIMARIE - WINNER
3 /04 /0812:00 AM
15596

BARACK OBAMA

-105



15597

HILARY CLINTON

-125



15598

THE FIELD

+3000



2008 U.S.A ELECTIONS

PARTY TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY
3 /04 /0812:00 AM
1001

REPUBLICAN PARTY

+125



1002

DEMOCRATIC PARTY

-230



1003

ANY OTHER PARTY

+3000



2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION -WINNER
3 /04 /0812:00 AM
15980

HILLARY CLINTON

+600



15981

BARACK OBAMA

-180



15983

JOHN MCCAIN

+115



15991

THE FIELD

+7750
 
The Prophet

The Prophet

EOG Dedicated
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa
Here's the play:

Bet 1: (McCain) $720.00 @ +150
Bet 2: (Obama) $1,000.00 @ -125

Total Investment: $1,720.00

Total Return: $1,800.00

Total Profit: $80

ROI: 4.65%
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JEFF JONES: Well, as a math problem, I guess it's the right answer.

But the question is:

1) If you are the average EOG poster why are you tying up $1720 for nine months to make $80?

2) And if you are rich beyond compare, why would you do this for $80?

Fine. Do it.

You can't make it up.
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HOFFA: I'm not.
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JEFF JONES: Below average is respected as well.
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:LMAO :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO :LMAO

I THINK I JUST SPILT SOMETHING...:LMAO :+signs8-3


BUT DOES IT OUT DUEL THE DSETHI DEAL? :+paranoid


:+textinb3



.
 
munson15

munson15

I want winners...
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Jimmy Hoffa said:
Here's the play:

<TABLE borderColor=black cellSpacing=0 border=0><BIG><TBODY><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Bet 1: (McCain)</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$720.00</BIG></TD><TD align=left>@ +150</TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Bet 2: (Obama)</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$1,000.00</BIG></TD><TD align=left>@ -125</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE borderColor=black><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Total Investment: </BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$1,720.00</BIG></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Total Return:</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$1,800.00</BIG></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>Total Profit:</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>$80</BIG></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left><BIG>ROI:</BIG></TD><TD align=right><BIG>4.65%</BIG></TD></TR></BIG><TR><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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I love it, like buying a 9 month CD. With interest rates as low as they are, that's a fine ROI. I'm guessing you don't have access to the better lines that are available on McCain. Congrats, Jimmy.
 
Grand Master B

Grand Master B

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Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

It puzzles me how guys can equate tying your money up at oddsmaker for 9 months to a cd.

Way too much risk for the extra $15 for me.
 
Jimmy Hoffa

Jimmy Hoffa

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Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

The appeal here is that the scalp is at the same book rather than scalping across 2 platforms.
 
Reload

Reload

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Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

I'm not a huge expert on betting elections but over the years I've noticed it's best to wait for the national conventions. During the Democratic convention, the Democrats look real strong and the odds get jacked that way so bet Republican then. Same thing for the Republican convention - that's when to get the best odds for the Democratic party candidate.
 
munson15

munson15

I want winners...
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Grand Master B said:
It puzzles me how guys can equate tying your money up at oddsmaker for 9 months to a cd.

Way too much risk for the extra $15 for me.
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If you can't trust the most solid books then you shouldn't have any money offshore. If you do, then the ROI is better than a CD, that's all I'm saying.

If you are saying that oddsmaker is a risky place, then you may have a point. I didn't notice the book he played it at, and I don't know a lot about them.

Would you feel differently if he had placed the action at 5dimes, Matchbook or the like?
 
Reload

Reload

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Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

It's good general advice to only bet elections that are a while away at only the most solid books. A lot can happen with weaker books, especially during this time of year. They could get killed with March Madness, baseball, etc. and await football to bail them out in the fall which it may or may not do. Some books might also jerk people around and wait until the inauguration to pay up on elections while more solid places will pay the day after election night. Like any other "future" sorts of bets, just be a little careful.
 
raycabino

raycabino

Long Live Wilson!
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

Jimmy Hoffa said:
Here's the play:

<big></big><table border="0" bordercolor="black" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td align="left"><big>Bet 1: (McCain)</big></td><td align="right"><big> $720.00</big></td><td align="left"> @ +150</td></tr><tr><td align="left"><big>Bet 2: (Obama)</big></td><td align="right"><big> $1,000.00</big></td><td align="left"> @ -125</td></tr></tbody></table><table bordercolor="black"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr><tr><td align="left"><big>Total Investment: </big></td><td align="right"><big> $1,720.00</big></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr><tr><td align="left"><big>Total Return:</big></td><td align="right"><big>$1,800.00</big></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr><tr><td align="left"><big>Total Profit:</big></td><td align="right"><big>$80</big></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr><tr><td align="left"><big>ROI:</big></td><td align="right"><big>4.65%</big></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"> </td></tr></tbody></table>
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Or you could just bet the NO on Hillary and lay about 10 to 1 that she doesnt get in as apposed to 20-1 here.
 
Woody

Woody

EOG Veteran
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

dirty said:
She has no shot... I watched the debate last night and Obama made her look like a Idiot....
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I just edited your leading sentence to more correctly reflect the situation.

"She has no shot... I watched the debate last night and she looked like an Idiot...."

BTW: Anyone see the Jon Stewart bit, it was enough for me.
 
dirty

dirty

EOG Master
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

You are correct Woody... Obama did make her look like a Idiot
 
Jimmy Hoffa

Jimmy Hoffa

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Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

What a difference a day makes...

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2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION - WINNER:​
</TD><TD width=1> </TD><TD style="PADDING-TOP: 2px" noWrap align=right background=http://oddsmaker.com/products/images/odds_date_bg.gif>2008-02-29 09:0 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=7><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=TableBodyAlt-OFF bgColor=#ffffff><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF>Spread</TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF width="5%"> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF>Price</TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF width="8%"> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF>Spread</TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF width="5%"> </TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF>Price</TD><TD class=TableBodyAlt-OFF> </TD><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18> </TD></TR><TR class=TableBody><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
HILLARY CLINTON​
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+550​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle> </TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
BARACK OBAMA​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
-170​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18 height=1> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18> </TD></TR><TR class=TableBody><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
JOHN MCCAIN​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+150​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle> </TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
MITT ROMNEY​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+0​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle>Off </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18 height=1> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18> </TD></TR><TR class=TableBody><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
MIKE HUCKABEE​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+7,500​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle> </TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
RON PAUL​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+8,000​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18 height=1> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18> </TD></TR><TR class=TableBody><TD class=TableBody width="30%">
THE FIELD​
</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>0</TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody>
+1,700​
</TD><TD class=TableBody align=middle> </TD><TD class=TableBody> </TD><TD class=TableBody colSpan=5> </TD></TR><TR><TD class=TableHead colSpan=18 height=1> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
Flamingo kid

Flamingo kid

Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: Anyone See Free Money Here?

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