Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

The Prophet

EOG Dedicated
Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

Mar. 14, 2008

WASHINGTON -- A House panel plans next month to review regulations proposed by the Department of Treasury to enforce a 2006 ban against Internet gambling.

The hearing by the House Financial Services Committee could occur as early as April 2.

The draft rules, which were published Oct. 4, reportedly have drawn more than 200 comments from lawmakers and various interest groups.

Many of the comments question whether the regulations would be effective.

"The hearing is going to show -- I want to show -- that it's not that the regulations weren't done well. It's that they can't be done well given the inherent nature of the issue," said Barney Frank, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

Frank, who has called the ban "one of the stupidest things I ever saw," offered legislation last year to repeal it and require the Department of Treasury to regulate Internet gambling in the United States.

About 23 million people gambled on the Internet in 2005 on 2,500 Web sites. About 8 million of those gamblers were from the United States.

So far, Frank's bill has 46 co-sponsors -- 42 Democrats and four Republicans.

Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., who attached the Internet gambling ban to a port security bill as Congress rushed to finish business in 2006, on Thursday repeatedly declined to answer questions about the ban or efforts to repeal it.

"I'm not going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about the issue today," said Frist, who was in Washington to promote efforts to save children's lives across the world.

After leaving the Senate at the end of 2006, Frist returned to his medical practice in Nashville.

Meanwhile, former Sen. Alfonse D'Amato, R-N.Y., the chief lobbyist for the Poker Players Alliance, acknowledged Thursday he does not expect Congress to overturn the Internet gambling ban this year.

"It's going to take a couple of years," said D'Amato, noting the increased difficulty of passing legislation in a presidential election year.

Although he declined to disclose names, D'Amato said he is talking to Republican senators in hopes of finding one who will lead efforts in the Senate to exempt poker from the online wagering ban.

The legislation in the Senate would be similar to a bill proposed last year in the House by Rep. Bob Wexler, D-Fla.

Wexler's bill has 21 co-sponsors -- 17 Democrats and four Republicans.

A bill by Rep. Shelley Berkley, D-Nev., calling for a one-year study of Internet gambling by the National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences has 68 co-sponsors -- 64 Democrats and four Republicans, including Reps. Jon Porter and Dean Heller, both R-Nev.

Rep. James McDermott, D-Wash., has proposed legislation to tax Internet gambling for up to $43 billion over 10 years.

McDermott's bill, which is intended to complement Frank's bill, has 21 co-sponsors -- 17 Democrats and four Republicans.

Earlier this month, McDermott sought to strengthen his bill and the revised version has one co-sponsor, Rep. Neil Abercrombie, D-Hawaii.

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OMNIVOROUS FROG

EOG Master
Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

You know why Frist won't comment? Because it was a backroom deal for his buddies on a midnight attachment to a bill that was a shoe in to pass. Where the red eyed senate did not even have time to review it. They snuck it by at the latest hour possible. Under totally fraudulent pretenses. No books monies ever went to sponsor terrorism. And they were not saving kids from gambling away their parents monies. It was all about money, and the lack of revenue for our neverending glomming government with it's insatiable appetite. That is not how our elected representatives our supposed to work. Not even close. American government does what it wants, when it wants, no matter what world laws exist. Who can stop them? They make and pass the laws.


Best wishes...OF :finger004
 

Dante

EOG Veteran
Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

Frist , one day will be exposed as one of the biggest POS frauds every in congress...he is shady POS... I think sneaky bullshit tactics like forcing that bill on the back of a totally unrelated bill is what ending up getting his Stupid ass canned from the senate


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Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

Former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., who attached the Internet gambling ban to a port security bill as Congress rushed to finish business in 2006, on Thursday repeatedly declined to answer questions about the ban or efforts to repeal it.

"I'm not going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about the issue today," said Frist, who was in Washington to promote efforts to save children's lives across the world.
He "repeatedly declined to talk about it" because he was in an effort to "save children's lives across the world".

Yeah, RIGHT.

What an asshole.

I wonder why he wasn't interested, maybe be because he never really gave a darn about internet gambling in the first place and his clandestine move to attach the UIGEA to the Port Security Bill was for his own selfish political motives, a move that failed and which ended up with him being booted out of office.

After leaving the Senate at the end of 2006, Frist returned to his medical practice in Nashville.
Well, the only reason he "returned to his medical practice" was he was booted out of office (by a slim margin).

Could it be the slim margin were pissed off online poker players and sportsbettors? Yes, it may be.

Bill Frist wanted to be the next President of the United States of America. His move to ram the UIGEA up the ass of Senate in the 11th hour was motivated by said desire.

And it ended up with him out of it altogether.

Now we read news of him "saving children across the world". :doh1 Those poor kids!
 

The Prophet

EOG Dedicated
Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

I am not aware of anyone or entity prosecuted by U.S. Authorities under UIGEA are you?

UIGEA has only meant what others have interpreted to mean as evidence of some providers leaving while others continue to serve offshore gaming trade to Americans.

UIGEA is directed towards financial institutions not offshore gaming providers...while I don't think we'll see bankers prosecuted by UIGEA anytime soon, if ever.


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OMNIVOROUS FROG

EOG Master
Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

He "repeatedly declined to talk about it" because he was in an effort to "save children's lives across the world".

Yeah, RIGHT.

What an asshole.

I wonder why he wasn't interested, maybe be because he never really gave a darn about internet gambling in the first place and his clandestine move to attach the UIGEA to the Port Security Bill was for his own selfish political motives, a move that failed and which ended up with him being booted out of office.

Well, the only reason he "returned to his medical practice" was he was booted out of office (by a slim margin).

Could it be the slim margin were pissed off online poker players and sportsbettors? Yes, it may be.

Bill Frist wanted to be the next President of the United States of America. His move to ram the UIGEA up the ass of Senate in the 11th hour was motivated by said desire.

And it ended up with him out of it altogether.

Now we read news of him "saving children across the world". :doh1 Those poor kids!

You should post more.


Best wishes...OF :cheers

I forgot to mention the what was in it for him angle, just the power brokers behind him whispering you could be the next president if you do this for us. I might even choose playersonly69 to care for the kids than this guy. Remember Hedley Lamarr talking the governor into some bullshit against Rock Ridge in Blazing saddles? That is the first or Frist thing I think of.
 

The Prophet

EOG Dedicated
Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

A bill by Rep. Shelley Berkley, D-Nev., calling for a one-year study of Internet gambling by the National Research Council of the National Academy of Sciences has 68 co-sponsors -- 64 Democrats and four Republicans, including Reps. Jon Porter and Dean Heller, both R-Nev.


UIGEA IS the study...to see if financial institutions can control international funds associated with the gambling vise-trade...if successful, and only if successful...then the Government can institute a viable means of taxation upon it.



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Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

I am not aware of anyone or entity prosecuted by U.S. Authorities under UIGEA are you?


Ever heard of NETELLER?

Do you think Neteller would have been brought down in the US if the UIGEA bill would have faded away and not become law?
 

The Prophet

EOG Dedicated
Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

Ever heard of NETELLER?

Do you think Neteller would have been brought down in the US if the UIGEA bill would have faded away and not become law?

APPARENTLY YOU'VE BEEN MISINFORMED...

FINANCIAL PROCESSOR NETELLER WAS INDICTED UNDER SECTIONS 1956(a)(2)(A) OF TITLE 18, SECTION 1084 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE, AS WELL AS NEW YORK STATE PENAL LAW, ARTICLE 225 AND ANTI-GAMBLING STATUTES IN OTHER STATES.


REF:


http://forums.eog.com/online-sportsbooks-and-gambling-discussion/court-grants-imega-standing-challenge-flawed-125127.html



WHILE I OBJECT TO YOUR QUESTION BASED UPON SPECULATION.


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Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling


UIGEA IS the study...to see if financial institutions can control international funds associated with the gambling vise-trade...


Oh, the UIGEA is the study.

Really?

That is a hell of a way to study something -- first pass a law and then see what effects it has.

I thought the value of conducting a study in the first place is it may yield valuable information toward avoid passing an ineffective law?
 

OMNIVOROUS FROG

EOG Master
Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

I have to agree with Amsterdam here. They passed this law, GDub signed it into law and within how many months were they abducted? Also, within how many day did several books pullout of the US market. This was the law they needed as all others were antiquated and full of loopholes, as in the wire act. Even though they were abducted under money laudering, I find it very strange they waited for this to become law to study it.


Best wishes...OF :cheers
 
Re: Study of regulations slated for ban on Web gambling

APPARENTLY YOU'VE BEEN MISINFORMED...

FINANCIAL PROCESSOR NETELLER WAS INDICTED UNDER SECTIONS 1956(a)(2)(A) OF TITLE 18, SECTION 1084 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE, AS WELL AS NEW YORK STATE PENAL LAW, ARTICLE 225 AND ANTI-GAMBLING STATUTES IN OTHER STATES.


REF:


http://forums.eog.com/online-sports...s-imega-standing-challenge-flawed-125127.html



WHILE I OBJECT TO YOUR QUESTION BASED UPON SPECULATION.


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First of all, your link doesn't have much to do with Neteller.

The quotes you've 'bolded' and 'increased their font size' that describe the UIGEA as illegitimate are of the iMEGA lawyers.

It should be obvious that the UIGEA is interpreted quite differently from the iMEGA lawyers than the US GOV.
 
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