ackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals

Townhall.com::Tackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals::By John Hawkins

Tackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals
By John Hawkins

In recent years, liberals have mastered the art of lying. A lefty blog writes a story, then two dozen other blogs pick-up. Next thing you know, the libs in the mainstream media are echoing the charges that started in the blogosphere without mentioning that they're false.
At that point, we're in a Catch-22 because liberals very seldom challenge lies about Republicans, no matter how obvious they may be, and when conservatives point out inaccuracies, it's treated as immaterial because we "must" be biased. Since the mainstream media works this way and is so heavily slanted to the left, it makes it very difficult for conservatives to get their side of the story out.
Then, a few months later, after the lies have been repeated ad nauseum, even conservatives who are uninformed may start to mistake the untrue charges for the truth. That's why these modern liberal myths, like the ones you are about to read, need to be countered with the truth.
George Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq: This is actually one of the most easily disproved myths because after looking at the same intelligence George Bush was given, many prominent Democrats said almost the exact things Bush did about Iraq's WMDs.
For example, here's Hillary Clinton,

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002​
Now here's John Edwards,

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002​
They weren't tricked by the Bush Administration and they weren't part of some cover-up designed to lie us into war. To the contrary, they looked at our intelligence reports and came to the same conclusions the Bush Administration did. That's why both of them voted for the war. If the Democrats were honest, they'd be willing to admit that Bush told the truth.
Al Gore would have won the election in 2000 if all the votes had been counted: The problem with this assertion is that all the votes were counted after the fact -- by mainstream media organizations that are hostile to the Bush Administration. What was their conclusion? That George Bush would have won had the unconstitutional full recount been allowed to go forward.
The Miami Herald did a recount and here's the headline and the first paragraph from their article describing the results,

"REVIEW SHOWS BALLOTS SAY BUSH
Republican George W. Bush's victory in Florida, which gave him the White House, almost certainly would have endured even if a recount stopped by the U.S. Supreme Court had been allowed to go forward."
There was also a 2nd recount done by eight media groups. Here's what the New York Times, one of the participants, had to say about it. Again, I am quoting the headline and the first paragraph,

"Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote
A comprehensive review of the uncounted Florida ballots from last year's presidential election reveals that George W. Bush would have won even if the United States Supreme Court had allowed the statewide manual recount of the votes that the Florida Supreme Court had ordered to go forward"
So, the reality is that even if the unconstitutional recount of the Florida ballots had gone forward, Bush still would have won the election.
George Bush's "16 Words" in the 2003 State of the Union were a lie: This was the statement which led to the Valerie Plame scandal. It was as follows:

"The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."​
Later the White House said this assertion was "incorrect" and George Tenet added that those words shouldn't have been in the speech. From there, that egomaniacal jackass, Joseph Wilson, publicly made himself into the main character of a story he was only tangentially involved in and things snowballed from there.
However, the British Government did believe Saddam Hussein had "sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa," and moreover, a "separate report by the US Senate Intelligence Committee said...that the US also had similar information from 'a number of intelligence reports.'" In addition, the British Butler report concluded that Iraq did try to buy uranium in Nigeria in 1999 and that George Bush's 16 words were "well-founded."
After reading that, you can only conclude that the Bush Administration's mistake was not in lying, but in prematurely declaring that the "16 words" weren't correct.
Bush made 9/11 happen on purpose or let it happen on purpose: This loony conspiracy theory has been floating around for years despite the fact that,

"The 9/11 attacks, or at least parts of those attacks, have been investigated by the 9/11 commission, the CIA, FBI, FAA, FEMA, The National Institute of Standards and Technology, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Popular Mechanics, and countless mainstream newspapers -- among other sources."​
Start considering the size of the conspiracy that we're talking about here, folks. Not only are we talking about the people who planned and executed the attacks, we're talking about the firemen, policemen, and medical workers who helped out in the aftermath. At least some of them must have been able to figure out what was going on. Then we're talking about all the people who investigated the attacks, who are from every background, religious sect, walk-of-life, and political party you can imagine. Yet, all of these people, tens of thousands of them, are supposed to be participating in a massive cover-up? Meanwhile, the Bush Administration can't even seem to keep the details of highly classified intelligence programs from being publicized in the New York Times. It's just not possible that a conspiracy of that magnitude could exist, which is why no rational and intelligent person buys into these wacky 9/11 conspiracy theories.
There is a consensus on man-made global warming: Because the global warming alarmists can't give a good answer to many of the most basic questions that people have, they've simply been claiming that almost every scientist believes they're right. The idea here is that people will think, "They may not be able to make a case for what they believe, but if all those scientists agree with them, they must be spot-on!"
However, while there is a consensus that the earth warmed a small amount over the last century, there is no consensus on whether mankind is responsible, whether the warming will continue, and whether the consequences will be serious if it does. In fact, more than 31,000 American scientists have signed a petition stating the following:

"We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.
There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth."
Maybe you agree with that or maybe you don't, but what should be beyond dispute at this point is that there is certainly no scientific consensus on global warming.
 

gopherbob

EOG Dedicated
Re: ackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals

" If the Democrats were honest, they'd be willing to admit that Bush told the truth."


no, the democrats that voted for the war should admit that they were too lazy to check the "facts" that the bush administration gave them. any congressman/senator that took this administration's "facts" without rechecking them and voted yes should be immediately removed from office,
this goes for both parties.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: ackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals

Bush cooked the Intel ...

By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 10, 2006; Page A01




The former CIA official who coordinated U.S. intelligence on the Middle East until last year has accused the Bush administration of "cherry-picking" intelligence on Iraq to justify a decision it had already reached to go to war, and of ignoring warnings that the country could easily fall into violence and chaos after an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein



Paul R. Pillar, who was the national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia from 2000 to 2005
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: ackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals

They are claiming POPULAR MECHANICS is credible to prove the 9-11
story?

Ohhhh .... ya mean the story from Michael Chertoff's cousin?
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: ackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals

"They weren't tricked by the Bush Administration and they weren't part of some cover-up designed to lie us into war"

REALLY?

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush and his top aides publicly made 935 false statements about the security risk posed by Iraq in the two years following September 11, 2001, according to a study released Tuesday by two nonprofit journalism groups.
 
Re: ackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals

" If the Democrats were honest, they'd be willing to admit that Bush told the truth."


no, the democrats that voted for the war should admit that they were too lazy to check the "facts" that the bush administration gave them. any congressman/senator that took this administration's "facts" without rechecking them and voted yes should be immediately removed from office,
this goes for both parties.

The Dumbocrats that voted for the war did so strickly for political reasons. They have no other convictions, but to get elected. For Hillary to come out now and say, "I would not have voted for the war now based on what I know" is a simple statement based on political expediency and again proves just how weak and without conviction this political party is.
 
Re: ackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals

Townhall.com::Tackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals::By John Hawkins

Tackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals
By John Hawkins

In recent years, liberals have mastered the art of lying. A lefty blog writes a story, then two dozen other blogs pick-up. Next thing you know, the libs in the mainstream media are echoing the charges that started in the blogosphere without mentioning that they're false.
At that point, we're in a Catch-22 because liberals very seldom challenge lies about Republicans, no matter how obvious they may be, and when conservatives point out inaccuracies, it's treated as immaterial because we "must" be biased. Since the mainstream media works this way and is so heavily slanted to the left, it makes it very difficult for conservatives to get their side of the story out.
Then, a few months later, after the lies have been repeated ad nauseum, even conservatives who are uninformed may start to mistake the untrue charges for the truth. That's why these modern liberal myths, like the ones you are about to read, need to be countered with the truth.
George Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq: This is actually one of the most easily disproved myths because after looking at the same intelligence George Bush was given, many prominent Democrats said almost the exact things Bush did about Iraq's WMDs.
For example, here's Hillary Clinton,
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002​
Now here's John Edwards,
"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002​
They weren't tricked by the Bush Administration and they weren't part of some cover-up designed to lie us into war. To the contrary, they looked at our intelligence reports and came to the same conclusions the Bush Administration did. That's why both of them voted for the war. If the Democrats were honest, they'd be willing to admit that Bush told the truth.


CIA warned Bush of no WMD in Iraq: retired official
Sat Apr 22, 9:52 PM ET



The Central Intelligence Agency warned US President
George W. Bush before the Iraq war that it had
reliable information the government of Saddam Hussein
had no weapons of mass destruction, a retired CIA
operative disclosed.

But the operative, Tyler Drumheller, said top White
House officials simply brushed off the warning, saying
they were "no longer interested" in intelligence and
that the policy toward Iraq had been already set.

The disclosure, made in an interview with CBS's "60
Minutes" program due to be broadcast late Sunday, adds
to earlier accusations that the Bush administration
used intelligence selectively as it built its case for
the March 2003 invasion of Iraq and the toppling of
Saddam's regime.

The administration claimed in the run-up to the war
that Baghdad had extensive stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons and was working clandestinely to
build a nuclear arsenal, therefore, presenting a
threat to the world.

An extensive CIA-led probe undertaken after the US
military took control of Iraq failed to turn up any
such weapons. But Bush and other members of his
administration have blamed the fiasco on a massive
intelligence failure and vehemently denied
manipulating information they had been provided.

However, Drumheller, who was a top CIA liaison officer
in Europe before the war, insisted Bush had been
explicitly warned well before an invasion order was
given that the United States may not find the
suspected weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

The information about the absence of the suspected
weapons in Iraq, according to excerpts of Drumheller's
remarks, was clandestinely provided to the United
States by former Iraqi foreign minister Naji Sabri,
who doubled as a covert intelligence agent for Western
services.

Then-CIA director George Tenet immediately delivered
this report to Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and
other high-ranking administration officials, but the
information was dismissed, Drumheller said.

"The group that was dealing with preparation for the
Iraq war came back and said they were no longer
interested," the former CIA official recalled. "And we
said 'Well, what about the intel?' And they said
'Well, this isn't about intel anymore. This is about
regime change.'"

Drumheller said the White House did not want any
additional data from Sabri because, as he pointed out,
"the policy was set."

"The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for
intelligence to fit into the policy," he argued.

The CIA declined to comment on the disclosure.

Drumheller admitted that Sabri was just one source,
but pointed out that the administration would not shy
away from other single-source information if it suited
its policy goals.

"They certainly took information that came from single
sources on the yellowcake story and on several other
stories with no corroboration at all," he complained.

The White House had embraced a British report that
Iraq had purchased 500 tons of uranium from the
African nation of Niger, allegedly to restart its
nuclear weapons program.

A special CIA envoy Joseph Wilson, who made a secret
trip to Niger in late 2002 to verify the report,
dismissed it as unfounded -- much to the displeasure
of the White House.

Drumheller, who retired from the agency last year, is
the second high-ranking ex-CIA official to criticize
the administration's use of intelligence in months
leading up to the war.

Paul Pillar, who was the national intelligence officer
for the Near East and South Asia from 2000 to 2005,
wrote in the March-April issue of Foreign Affairs
magazine that the White House was "cherry-picking"
information and that "intelligence was misused
publicly to justify decisions already made."

There was no immediate reaction from the White House
to the latest charges.

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Did US Know Iraq Had No WMDs?
by Kevin McKiernan

What if the Bush administration wasn't entirely
convinced before the Iraq war that Saddam Hussein had
WMDs, but simply invoked those ''mushroom cloud"
images to rally necessary public support? One source
of such speculation lies in the administration's
puzzling prewar failure to supply Iraqi Kurds,
Hussein's closest and most likely targets, with gas
masks and other promised protection.

While the White House has publicly maintained that the
decision to go to war was not made until early 2003 --
and only as a last resort after the failure of both
inspections and diplomacy -- I knew a full year before
that Kurdish leaders were quietly tipped off to war
plans just weeks after the events of Sept. 11, 2001.

The Washington, D.C., representative of the Patriotic
Union of Kurdistan, which controlled the eastern
portion of the Kurdish region, told me early in 2002
that he and other Kurdish leaders had been summoned to
the Pentagon in October 2001 to meet Donald Rumsfeld,
the secretary of defense. One of the topics of
conversation was the 1988 gassing of the Kurds by the
Iraqi regime.

By the time of that Pentagon meeting, Kurdish
diplomats had been in Washington since 1991, when a
no-flight zone was established to protect Iraqi Kurds.
But for those 10 years, Kurdish leaders had been
denied all but low-level contacts with US government
officials.

With that inside information, I began scouting
abandoned Iraqi airfields in northern Iraq to look for
likely landing spots for US troops and supplies. I
found one near the town of Harir, a long military
runway that Hussein's air force had used for refueling
during the Iraq-Iran war. Sure enough, according to
local witnesses, foreigners speaking English had been
seen examining the landing strip in January 2002, the
month before.

I then interviewed Dr. Abdullah Saeed, the director of
public health for the Kurdistan Democratic Party,
which controlled the western part of the Kurdish
region. Dr. Saeed told me that several Americans -- he
assumed they were CIA, but had no way of knowing --
had visited him about the same time and had promised
that the Kurds would soon be supplied with antitoxins
for nerve gas, face masks, and other protective gear.

That was welcome news, Dr. Saeed said, because there
were more than 3.5 million Kurds and, unlike Israelis
and Kuwaitis, they had no such safety equipment.

If cornered, Hussein was expected to retaliate with
chemical or biological weapons. Kurdish targets, some
as close as Brooklyn is to Manhattan, could be easily
reached with old-fashioned artillery shells.

In December 2002, Senators Joe Biden and Chuck Hagel
visited northern Iraq on a fact-finding trip for the
Foreign Relations Committee. The senators expressed
concern that the Kurds still had no protection,
stating in separate interviews they would try to
convince the administration to expedite the promised
shipment.

In February 2003, with the US attack now imminent,
Kurdish leaders Jalal Talabani and Massoud Barzani
published an impassioned letter to President Bush,
complaining they ''have yet to receive any of the
protective equipment promised by your officials to
deal with the very real risk of chemical and
biological weapons attacks on the cities of Iraqi
Kurdistan."

When the Bush appeal was made public, Hero Ibrahim
Ahmed, the wife of Jalal Talabani, who later became
president of Iraq, told me that she had personally
filmed victims of Hussein's earlier gas attacks in
1987-1988. ''No one was interested at that time in my
videos," she lamented.

In late spring 2003, Bush proclaimed ''mission
accomplished" and I came home from Iraq. As I took my
unused gas mask off my belt, my thoughts returned to
Mrs. Ahmed's assertion that the Kurds had received no
WMD protection because the West ''just didn't care."

No one could doubt that the Kurds presented an easy
target for expected retaliation by the Iraqi regime,
but I had to believe that once the support of the
Kurds had been enlisted by Rumsfeld, then their
survival became a genuine concern to war planners.

The alternative scenario was just too disturbing: that
the Pentagon knew all along that the Kurds, an exposed
population of almost 4 million, would have no need for
masks. Could the White House have conducted the war
with actual knowledge that there were no WMD in Iraq?
Was that why no one saw fit to protect the Kurds?

Kevin McKiernan has covered the Iraq war for ABC News
and he wrote and directed the PBS film ''Good Kurds,
Bad Kurds." His new book is ''The Kurds: A People in
Search of Their Homeland."

? 2006 The Boston Globe


Did US Know Iraq Had No WMDs?
 

HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
Re: ackling Five Modern Myths Created by Liberals

Tar-turd....what exactly is "ackling"??? First word in your regurgitation of the Townhall propaganda! "Ackling"???
 
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