MRSOSUCOWBOYS
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that are mean and control them?
Why do women stay with men
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Re: Why do women stay with men
great topic...
Want the shrink version?
great topic...
Want the shrink version?
Journeyman
EOG Master
Re: Why do women stay with men
a lot of times money and the false sense of security...some have been controlled so long they need to be controlled to feel worth something.
a lot of times money and the false sense of security...some have been controlled so long they need to be controlled to feel worth something.
Re: Why do women stay with men
they equate that behavior with love , learned as a child
they equate that behavior with love , learned as a child
OMNIVOROUS FROG
EOG Master
Re: Why do women stay with men
They don't. They end of divorcing them and get the ultimate payback by taking all of thier stuff.
OF...:+waving-5
They don't. They end of divorcing them and get the ultimate payback by taking all of thier stuff.
OF...:+waving-5
RageWizard
EOG Senior Member
Re: Why do women stay with men
I know of one who stayed with her man even after getting beaten a couple of times for the kids sake and for the simple fact that her mother said that she couldn't take the stigma of having a daugther with a divorce.
I know of one who stayed with her man even after getting beaten a couple of times for the kids sake and for the simple fact that her mother said that she couldn't take the stigma of having a daugther with a divorce.
MRSOSUCOWBOYS
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Re: Why do women stay with men
love the shrink version.
I do think $ plays a big part.
love the shrink version.
I do think $ plays a big part.
OMNIVOROUS FROG
EOG Master
Re: Why do women stay with men
I never would have thought Travis was mean and controlling. Just does not come across that way in the forums. Hopefully he has enough $ to make it tolerable.
Appropriate cliche: Guess you never know.
OF...:+waving-5
I never would have thought Travis was mean and controlling. Just does not come across that way in the forums. Hopefully he has enough $ to make it tolerable.
Appropriate cliche: Guess you never know.
OF...:+waving-5
MRSOSUCOWBOYS
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OMNIVOROUS FROG
EOG Master
Re: Why do women stay with men
Oops, silly me, nevermind.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
Oops, silly me, nevermind.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
Re: Why do women stay with men
Whether you like it or not, we are influenced by two main entities, genes and environment...
Many women who choose "controlling" men as boyfriends/husbands do so unconsciously. Quite often, these women have had a parent (usually a Father figure but it doesn't have to be) who was domineering and controlling to them throughout most of their lives. In a perverse way, the women are comfortable in this environment even though consciously, they may even recognize it is dysfunctional...
The reason they stay is once again on a subconscious level. They believe that in some way they can "fix" these men and create a "happy" ending to their miserable childhood.
Needless to say, this doesn't work out well at all and quite often, these same women put up with so much more that goes with 'control' such as emotional, mental and even physical abuse...
THE SHRINK
Whether you like it or not, we are influenced by two main entities, genes and environment...
Many women who choose "controlling" men as boyfriends/husbands do so unconsciously. Quite often, these women have had a parent (usually a Father figure but it doesn't have to be) who was domineering and controlling to them throughout most of their lives. In a perverse way, the women are comfortable in this environment even though consciously, they may even recognize it is dysfunctional...
The reason they stay is once again on a subconscious level. They believe that in some way they can "fix" these men and create a "happy" ending to their miserable childhood.
Needless to say, this doesn't work out well at all and quite often, these same women put up with so much more that goes with 'control' such as emotional, mental and even physical abuse...
THE SHRINK
SPOOKY
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Re: Why do women stay with men
Almost like you know what you are talking about. 12io4j2w90
AMEN.
Zai Gazunt.
Almost like you know what you are talking about. 12io4j2w90
AMEN.
Zai Gazunt.
RageWizard
EOG Senior Member
Re: Why do women stay with men
I don't really know but I will ask the ol' lady abut it tonight and give the answer tomorrow.
Swede, you ex must have been John Stamos or someone like that.
I don't really know but I will ask the ol' lady abut it tonight and give the answer tomorrow.
Swede, you ex must have been John Stamos or someone like that.
OMNIVOROUS FROG
EOG Master
Re: Why do women stay with men
#1 reason? Lack of or low self esteem.
Most are repeat offenders also. They fall out of one abusive relationship into another. They may deny it, but in all reality they think they deserve it, or cannot do any better. If they did not feel that way they would not stay for long.
OF...:cheers
#1 reason? Lack of or low self esteem.
Most are repeat offenders also. They fall out of one abusive relationship into another. They may deny it, but in all reality they think they deserve it, or cannot do any better. If they did not feel that way they would not stay for long.
OF...:cheers
OMNIVOROUS FROG
EOG Master
Re: Why do women stay with men
Bingo, I said same thing in my post before reading this. The source of these feelings could be from anywhere, but that is it. He painted you into a low self esteem picture. And you were convinced. So in this case it was the guy himself.
OF...:cheers
Bingo, I said same thing in my post before reading this. The source of these feelings could be from anywhere, but that is it. He painted you into a low self esteem picture. And you were convinced. So in this case it was the guy himself.
OF...:cheers
Re: Why do women stay with men
Sounds to me like the only reasons a woman stays with a man are that she has some calculating ulterior advantage to do so or suffers from some deep-seated psychobabble flaw that compels her to stay.
Could "She just likes the guy" possibly be an answer?
Sounds to me like the only reasons a woman stays with a man are that she has some calculating ulterior advantage to do so or suffers from some deep-seated psychobabble flaw that compels her to stay.
Could "She just likes the guy" possibly be an answer?
Re: Why do women stay with men
Very few people I know enjoy being controlled or abused...:nono
Most will admit they want out but they don't leave...
Very few people I know enjoy being controlled or abused...:nono
Most will admit they want out but they don't leave...
MRSOSUCOWBOYS
EOG Addicted
Re: Why do women stay with men
I think they do like the guy. But in most times the BAD out weighs the good.
I think they do like the guy. But in most times the BAD out weighs the good.
Re: Why do women stay with men
But Jeff is right. The abuse/control strenghtens the like/love of abusee to the abuser. That's why I stated cognitive dissonance as the #1 reason. Example:
Woman's subconcious thought:
1) This guy is controlling abusive and mean
2) This guy is controlling abusive and mean and I'm with him
3) If I'm with a guy that is controlling abusive and mean, that must mean I really, really love him
And it's not easy to break this. Anybody that knows any woman w/ battered wife syndrome knows how impossible it is to talk her out of the relationship, and how much they profess thier love for their partner.
But Jeff is right. The abuse/control strenghtens the like/love of abusee to the abuser. That's why I stated cognitive dissonance as the #1 reason. Example:
Woman's subconcious thought:
1) This guy is controlling abusive and mean
2) This guy is controlling abusive and mean and I'm with him
3) If I'm with a guy that is controlling abusive and mean, that must mean I really, really love him
And it's not easy to break this. Anybody that knows any woman w/ battered wife syndrome knows how impossible it is to talk her out of the relationship, and how much they profess thier love for their partner.
RageWizard
EOG Senior Member
Re: Why do women stay with men
My very own wife comes from an very controlling and mentally abusive household as a mennonite kid. Yeah that's right no electricity and no female thoughts of her own. It has taken maybe 13 years of our 16 year marriage to get her to think for herself. I guess they get brainwashed into thinking that they aren't worth shit without a guy there to tell them what to do and how to think. Thankfully women can break out of the cycle if they apply themselves.
My very own wife comes from an very controlling and mentally abusive household as a mennonite kid. Yeah that's right no electricity and no female thoughts of her own. It has taken maybe 13 years of our 16 year marriage to get her to think for herself. I guess they get brainwashed into thinking that they aren't worth shit without a guy there to tell them what to do and how to think. Thankfully women can break out of the cycle if they apply themselves.
Re: Why do women stay with men
some women like bad boys oooor just like being controlled
some women like bad boys oooor just like being controlled
NoNewbieca
EOG Dedicated
Re: Why do women stay with men
In my mind, it's fear of the unknown. Fear of being alone. Fear of having to take on life by yourself. It is about confidence. Throw a kid or two in there and you add to the complexity and the money becomes a more crucial factor.
Sweded said:
It boggles the mind really how someone so together and with it can feel this way about herself by what some guy says. If Sweded can feel that way, it's no wonder many more women fall prey to this thinking.
In my mind, it's fear of the unknown. Fear of being alone. Fear of having to take on life by yourself. It is about confidence. Throw a kid or two in there and you add to the complexity and the money becomes a more crucial factor.
Sweded said:
It boggles the mind really how someone so together and with it can feel this way about herself by what some guy says. If Sweded can feel that way, it's no wonder many more women fall prey to this thinking.
Angelsfire
EOG Dedicated
Re: Why do women stay with men
Because they think some how they have no choice...2348ji23e
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Angelsfire
EOG Dedicated
Re: Why do women stay with men
I am sure they do, and or think they love them. One might ask this Question then. Which one is sicker ?
On one hand you have a women that loves so deeply that she puts up with anything, and everything. What dose it say about a man, that dose this to a women, that he knows loves him so much?
Furthermore, He says he loves her too. Is it true, that Love hurts?
Is it the difference between, what you want verses, what you need ?
I hope your friend, and her man if they love each other get help . But both need help ,if they are to stay together. Love can heal too IMO
I am sure they do, and or think they love them. One might ask this Question then. Which one is sicker ?
On one hand you have a women that loves so deeply that she puts up with anything, and everything. What dose it say about a man, that dose this to a women, that he knows loves him so much?
Furthermore, He says he loves her too. Is it true, that Love hurts?
Is it the difference between, what you want verses, what you need ?
I hope your friend, and her man if they love each other get help . But both need help ,if they are to stay together. Love can heal too IMO
Hache Man
"Seven Days Without Gambling Makes One Weak"
Re: Why do women stay with men
The way women/girls are nowadays and you're asking this?!? :+clueless
The way women/girls are nowadays and you're asking this?!? :+clueless
Flamingo kid
Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: Why do women stay with men
its basically low self esteem and those women don't feel they deserve better. They were raised thinking that they are pieces of trash and when the guy is mean to them, they actually feel that its justified.
Then the guy says he's sorry and gives her a few i love you babys and whatnut and she forgives him.
also, and i know of a woman who's in a relationship that's bad (dont know any specifics, but i dont think he beats her, its just verbal abuse stuff) and she stays with him because he has money, they have a kid, a nice house, etc. and she doesnt want to lose that and start over in the big bad world all alone. She's actually smart and works a job, so she can get out of this situation if she wants to.....just not sure why she keeps staying there.
its basically low self esteem and those women don't feel they deserve better. They were raised thinking that they are pieces of trash and when the guy is mean to them, they actually feel that its justified.
Then the guy says he's sorry and gives her a few i love you babys and whatnut and she forgives him.
also, and i know of a woman who's in a relationship that's bad (dont know any specifics, but i dont think he beats her, its just verbal abuse stuff) and she stays with him because he has money, they have a kid, a nice house, etc. and she doesnt want to lose that and start over in the big bad world all alone. She's actually smart and works a job, so she can get out of this situation if she wants to.....just not sure why she keeps staying there.
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Please forgive me babe. I will try harder!! I just get SOOOOOO jealous. It's cuz I love you SOOOO much. Please come home.
Please forgive me babe. I will try harder!! I just get SOOOOOO jealous. It's cuz I love you SOOOO much. Please come home.
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Re: Why do women stay with men
That is right because you think women are the ones taking advantage of men.
The way women/girls are nowadays and you're asking this?!? :+clueless
That is right because you think women are the ones taking advantage of men.
Re: Why do women stay with men
Methinks it's lack of an education,which severely limits the woman's options.
My daughters are college-educated, and I am pretty sure they would not put up with some crappy human being beating them up. Also lack of spunk and gumption on the part of some women.
Methinks it's lack of an education,which severely limits the woman's options.
My daughters are college-educated, and I am pretty sure they would not put up with some crappy human being beating them up. Also lack of spunk and gumption on the part of some women.
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Fine..they can be big girls too, but they are not real women. Real women make like men that are tough...but the whole "bad boy" thing should be outgrown by the mid-twenties at the latest.
Fine..they can be big girls too, but they are not real women. Real women make like men that are tough...but the whole "bad boy" thing should be outgrown by the mid-twenties at the latest.
Re: Why do women stay with men
I started dating him when I was 17. I was just a kid.
I started dating him when I was 17. I was just a kid.