The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

SportsOptions

EOG Member
It has now been reported that BetCris owns a significant piece of Don Best, which explains their constant attacks on SportsOptions.

What is crazy about BetCris? actions is that not only were we in the line-service business well before they decided to get into bed with Don Best, but I personally had discussions with them last year about our plans and they were very supportive.

But now that they have decided to get into the line-service business, they are acting as if we should fold our tents and go home so they can re-monopolize the industry. Well not only did we start our business well before BetCris decided to get into bed with DB , but we have a significant investment in our company, so why should we be bullied out of our own industry? We have made a commitment to our customers and we plan on living up to it.

From the minute they bought into Don Best, BetCris has attempted to bully other sportsbooks to not do business with SportsOptions. And when I say bully, I am not talking about a friend asking for a favor ? they have threatened everything from canceling transfers to threatening to withhold future business.

So you have to wonder why giants like Don Best and BetCris would make such aggressive moves against a startup company. Obviously the want to continue their stranglehold on the outrages prices DB charges. When 2 companies like this get together, price fixing is almost guaranteed. Just think about it ? if BetCris plans to use all if its business influences to keep other sportsbooks from doing business with other line-services, Don Best will be able to charge whatever they want and will be held to zero standards.

Since we opened our doors, our Mission Statement has been simple: Deliver the fastest and most accurate information at the best price. We want to be the Pinnacle of the line-service industry.

We have a strong belief that a free market in any industry is best for consumers, which is why we have embraced our competitors. Because of the competition in the line-service industry, customers are getting better information, improved programs and lower prices from all services.

We would obviously prefer not to have conflicts with any other company and we have made multiple attempts and offers to BetCris to try and find a solution, but we have been rebuffed each time.

Regardless of what BetCris and Don Best choose to do, we will continue to fight for a free market in the line-service industry, giving consumers the opportunity to pick the service that best fits their needs, whether it be Don Best, G&J Update, LinesMover or SportsOptions.
 

mofome

Banned
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Great post! Nice to see someone who seems to think about the customer first.

:cheers
 
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

It has now been reported that BetCris owns a significant piece of Don Best, which explains their constant attacks on SportsOptions.

What is crazy about BetCris? actions is that not only were we in the line-service business well before they decided to get into bed with Don Best, but I personally had discussions with them last year about our plans and they were very supportive.

But now that they have decided to get into the line-service business, they are acting as if we should fold our tents and go home so they can re-monopolize the industry. Well not only did we start our business well before BetCris decided to get into bed with DB , but we have a significant investment in our company, so why should we be bullied out of our own industry? We have made a commitment to our customers and we plan on living up to it.

From the minute they bought into Don Best, BetCris has attempted to bully other sportsbooks to not do business with SportsOptions. And when I say bully, I am not talking about a friend asking for a favor ? they have threatened everything from canceling transfers to threatening to withhold future business.

So you have to wonder why giants like Don Best and BetCris would make such aggressive moves against a startup company. Obviously the want to continue their stranglehold on the outrages prices DB charges. When 2 companies like this get together, price fixing is almost guaranteed. Just think about it ? if BetCris plans to use all if its business influences to keep other sportsbooks from doing business with other line-services, Don Best will be able to charge whatever they want and will be held to zero standards.

Since we opened our doors, our Mission Statement has been simple: Deliver the fastest and most accurate information at the best price. We want to be the Pinnacle of the line-service industry.

We have a strong belief that a free market in any industry is best for consumers, which is why we have embraced our competitors. Because of the competition in the line-service industry, customers are getting better information, improved programs and lower prices from all services.

We would obviously prefer not to have conflicts with any other company and we have made multiple attempts and offers to BetCris to try and find a solution, but we have been rebuffed each time.

Regardless of what BetCris and Don Best choose to do, we will continue to fight for a free market in the line-service industry, giving consumers the opportunity to pick the service that best fits their needs, whether it be Don Best, G&J Update, LinesMover or SportsOptions.


:med3d-bravo:
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

I don't think a sportsbook should be an owner of a line service. If this industry was regulated it probably wouldn't be legal either.

Good luck SportsOptions
 

The Prophet

EOG Dedicated
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

It has now been reported that BetCris owns a significant piece of Don Best, which explains their constant attacks on SportsOptions.

What is crazy about BetCris? actions is that not only were we in the line-service business well before they decided to get into bed with Don Best, but I personally had discussions with them last year about our plans and they were very supportive.

But now that they have decided to get into the line-service business, they are acting as if we should fold our tents and go home so they can re-monopolize the industry. Well not only did we start our business well before BetCris decided to get into bed with DB , but we have a significant investment in our company, so why should we be bullied out of our own industry? We have made a commitment to our customers and we plan on living up to it.

From the minute they bought into Don Best, BetCris has attempted to bully other sportsbooks to not do business with SportsOptions. And when I say bully, I am not talking about a friend asking for a favor ? they have threatened everything from canceling transfers to threatening to withhold future business.

So you have to wonder why giants like Don Best and BetCris would make such aggressive moves against a startup company. Obviously the want to continue their stranglehold on the outrages prices DB charges. When 2 companies like this get together, price fixing is almost guaranteed. Just think about it ? if BetCris plans to use all if its business influences to keep other sportsbooks from doing business with other line-services, Don Best will be able to charge whatever they want and will be held to zero standards.

Since we opened our doors, our Mission Statement has been simple: Deliver the fastest and most accurate information at the best price. We want to be the Pinnacle of the line-service industry.

We have a strong belief that a free market in any industry is best for consumers, which is why we have embraced our competitors. Because of the competition in the line-service industry, customers are getting better information, improved programs and lower prices from all services.

We would obviously prefer not to have conflicts with any other company and we have made multiple attempts and offers to BetCris to try and find a solution, but we have been rebuffed each time.

Regardless of what BetCris and Don Best choose to do, we will continue to fight for a free market in the line-service industry, giving consumers the opportunity to pick the service that best fits their needs, whether it be Don Best, G&J Update, LinesMover or SportsOptions.




It has now been reported that BetCris owns a significant piece of Don Best, which explains their constant attacks on SportsOptions.

"Reported?" :+clueless


Care to provide the "report" you've cited? :pop:


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Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

BS reports, fight for a free market that already exists? Propaganda post at it's finest.
 

The Prophet

EOG Dedicated
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation




The source (Post #17 below) you’ve cited as well as based your entire theory upon provides no FACTUAL evidence to the "significant portion" ownership claim…can you provide such? :pop:


“I believe the reason they care so much is because they own a significant portion of Don Best....”


After all, truths are based in FACTS...not unsupported "reports."



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Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Considering Sports Options' sister company, The RX has been a long time recipient of substantial "advertising" revenue from CRIS, it would seem to me that they should carefully consider how they pick their battles.

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you . . . . . .
 

SportsOptions

EOG Member
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Considering Sports Options' sister company, The RX has been a long time recipient of substantial "advertising" revenue from CRIS, it would seem to me that they should carefully consider how they pick their battles.

Talk about biting the hand that feeds you . . . . . .

Judger,

SportsOptions is no longer affiliated with theRX.

Thanks
Rick
 
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Rick,

If this is true, please describe the circumstances that led to the decision to sever the relationship between The RX and Sports Options. Regardless, the "previous" association of the two companies and their shared management will reflect poorly on The RX if Sports Options decides to continue to make this an issue with CRIS.

Just sayin' . . . . .
 

ArchieBunker

EOG Dedicated
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

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The source (Post #17 below) you?ve cited as well as based your entire theory upon provides no FACTUAL evidence to the "significant portion" ownership claim?can you provide such? :pop:


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After all, truths are based in FACTS...not unsupported "reports."
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Hey Prophet,

Don't take this personally but why don't you go fuck yourself and leave the gambling business to people who actually gamble. Thanks,
 

SportsOptions

EOG Member
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Rick,

If this is true, please describe the circumstances that led to the decision to sever the relationship between The RX and Sports Options. Regardless, the "previous" association of the two companies and their shared management will reflect poorly on The RX if Sports Options decides to continue to make this an issue with CRIS.

Just sayin' . . . . .

Judger -

Out of respect for EOG, I really don't want to talk too much rx business over here. I will say that maintaining a solid relationship with advertisers is important to the owners of the rx, and it was a factor in their decision. That is why it is unfortunate that they are still being dragged into the situation.

Thanks
Rick
 
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Okay Casper, since a couple people IM'd me this pile of shit, I'll actually respond.

No show on the bash? Well, I went to three last year-Vegas in Aug & Sept and Costa Rica in December.

No show on the forum? I've been around since you have noticed(on my laptop, so I'm probably not as chatty as usual-it's kind of a pain in the ass while my my desktop goes through customs hell).

Wil & Rick wore me out? Um, okay....nice try. I don't have a problem with either one of them & one of them has a problem with me, I sure as hell haven't heard about it.

"Supposed to be posting"? I guess you don't know much about how things work at TheRx. It's not like were on some kind of quota system or anything. More than anything, the main concern is that newbies are approved & (depending on how suspicious they look), checked for IP\email matches. I don't know if it's the Rx's ratings or what, but the # of shills\peddlers & various just sellers all seem to have us on their radar)

5Star, get the EOG dick out of your mouth. Your "The Rx is dying shit is really getting old". I understand wanted to tow the company line, but fuck....you're as phony as a 3 dollar bill.

Gone from stateside? Yeah, after 10 years at the same day job & felt like moving on & doing something different. I just happened to work out that I could rent my house out for a retarded amount of $$ during the DNC in Denver, so the timing to bail for a while worked out pretty well.

"Back in San Jose"? Shit, I'd only been here 4 days before and that was for the Rx bash-I didn't even have a chance to make it out of town to see the country.

Banging on doors looking for work? I've actually had a couple unsolicited offers for some contract IT work, but haven't seriously persued any of them yet(Kind of wanted to take a couple months off and see the country before considering working down here). It wouldn't surprise me to be back in Colorado by the time prime ski season rolls in, but then again-that's about the time that this fucking rain supposedly stops down here.

I'm 40 years old & have had 2 "real" jobs since I got out of college(5 & 10 years each). WTF is wrong is with taking a flyer for a few months & going to see some of the world? It's not like I'm getting any younger.

p.s. Once I get settled in down here, I'll probably be traveling for 2-5 days at a time & may or may not have internet access. Just because I'm not around every day isn't an indication that I quit or am dead.

Any other questions, "bro"?

Why on earth would TTinco refer to Wilheim and Rick the other day on here?

I thought Rick resigned from TheRx? :pop:
 
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Rick,

Was it also "out of respect for EOG" that you chose to air this dirty laundry here in an attempt to undermine CRIS' position? The fact remains that RX is guilty by association in this pissing match and "they" will be unable to avoid the fallout that will certainly ensue. The fact that this issue began when RX and Sports Option were affiliated does vanish simply because they chose to become seperate companies in a thinly veiled attempt to defer criticism from a loyal advertiser.

Regards,
Judger
 

SportsOptions

EOG Member
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Rick,

Was it also "out of respect for EOG" that you chose to air this dirty laundry here in an attempt to undermine CRIS' position? The fact remains that RX is guilty by association in this pissing match and "they" will be unable to avoid the fallout that will certainly ensue. The fact that this issue began when RX and Sports Option were affiliated does vanish simply because they chose to become seperate companies in a thinly veiled attempt to defer criticism from a loyal advertiser.

Regards,
Judger

Judger -

No, this is hear because SportsOptions is an advertiser here. If we were not, I would have never posted it. Also, there are no references to any other site in the post.

I am sorry you choose not believe the fact that SportsOptions has no affiliation with the rx. I guess the only proof for you will be time.
 

SportsOptions

EOG Member
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Why on earth would TTinco refer to Wilheim and Rick the other day on here?

I thought Rick resigned from TheRx? :pop:

Ken,

Habit? I guess we will have to ask TT.

And since you are using TT to form your decision, I will assume that you will take what he says as fact when asked directly.
 
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

So is Rick there? Is Rick not there? Where's Slick Rick now?
 

HIGHLANDPARKDR

EOG Enthusiast
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

HIGH-TIMES (I don't think a sportsbook should be an owner of a line service. If this industry was regulated it probably wouldn't be legal either.

100% correct in "Normal" Industry NO-WAY would this be accepted as it's DEF DEF DEF "Conflict Interest" However CRIS has enough $$$$$$$$$$$ to be able to do it ................


DR
 

Timetopay

EOG Master
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

i like the fact Shrink wrote that article on one of his sponsors. I am hoping for one on oddsmaker or Betus next...
 
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

Why on earth would TTinco refer to Wilheim and Rick the other day on here?

I thought Rick resigned from TheRx? :pop:

It was nothing more than a direct response to Caspers post(He is a no show to the bash, a no show on the forum when everyone is at the bash and he is supposed to be posting. I think wil and Rick have wore him out and his enthusiasm tank is on empty.)
 

SportsInsights

EOG Member
Re: The truth behind the SportsOptions/BetCris situation

This topic was brought to my attention by a member of my site. I’ve only posted on EOG once or twice, but I’ve been involved with the online sports betting industry since 1999. First as a bookmaker, and now an owner of a site that competes with the likes of Don Best and Sports Options. This topic hit close to home so I thought I’d add my 2 cents.

We all learned in school that monopolies hurt the consumer. The consumer ends up paying significantly more for a lesser product. In my opinion the worst part of any monopoly is the simple fact it stymies innovation. This couldn't be any more evident then in the live odds service. For years Don Best has enjoyed a strangle hold on the industry. Think about it…the Don Best product you see today is the same exact product it offered 10 years ago! I can’t think of any other Internet based company that hasn’t change in the last year…yet alone the last 10 years.

The real loser here has been the sports betting world. There are a lot of interesting things Don Best could and should be doing with their live odds platform. Last year when CRIS, Grande, and Olympic broke off from Don Best, the live odds industry finally started to move forward. I’m proud to be a part of a company that is pushing the edge of what’s possible with live odds. Our goal isn’t to copy Don Best by offering live odds; it’s to create unique betting tools and betting systems based on live odds data.

It’s my personal belief that as the sports betting industry matures so must the products and services that support it. If Don Best is able to continue to monopolize the live odds industry, new and exciting innovations will never happen. It’s time for a new generation of live odds products to step forward.

Thanks,
Dan
 
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