DEMS HYPOCRITICAL ON ABORTION

I applaud the Democratic party for removing the "make abortion safe, legal and rare" clause from its platform. The only thing rare about that stance was the democrat who adhered to it.

Barack Obama is the poster child for this hypocrisy. I was appalled when he used the term during the Saddleback Church forum to describe his abortion views. He had to lie about his stance to an audience of Pro-Life Supporters.

Obama's short congressional record shows his lack of interest in making abortions rare. He practically endorsed infanticide as the LONE VOTE against the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act requiring medical assistance be provided to babies who survived botched attempts(and you people want this fking monster as pres).

Obama justified his stance by telling Pastor Rick Warren that under President Bush abortion rates have not declined...LIE....During the past 7 years the abortion rate has dropped significantly.

Interestingly, the new draft of the Demo Party platform removing the concept of making abortions rare was written by Obama's senate policy director, Karen Kornbluh. One liberal publication applauded this redirection as "a remarkably feminist document."

Obama's mantra of "change" rings hollow. He's no different than the thousands of politicians who lie to the gullible American public simply to get votes. 2938u4ji23
 
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Obama's short congressional record shows his lack of interest in making abortions rare. He practically endorsed infanticide as the LONE VOTE against the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act requiring medical assistance be provided to babies who survived botched attempts(and you people want this fking monster as pres).
2938u4ji23

Have you ever seen or heard the description of this procedure ? After hearing about it, I always wondered about politicians like Obama who would not take a hard stance against such despicable and criminal act such as this. This is a very clear right versus wrong issue. Obama is on the wrong side and way over the line here.

Absolutely sickening !!!
 
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every election this issue is brought up and beat to death

[IT'S REALLY PRETTY SIMPLE]

ANY and ALL WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT IS
BEST FOR THEM. NO GOVERNMENT OR RELIGION SHOULD HAVE ANY SAY.

any law that would force a woman to give birth is just flat out WRONG!

Who the fuck do these people that push for this shit think they are?
Are they (wannabe GODS) that want to make the almighty decisions?
They should put their time and energy into helping the children that are already
born and suffering in poverty and despair, instead of adding more to the long list.

Fuck it, let's pass a law that forces women to give birth. [with a catch though]
[The catch] The people that pushed for it have to take care of those children.

The people that push for this shit are the same people that scream when their
taxes are raised in order to provide care for those children and their mothers.

This issue is just more nonsense that is nobodys business but the mothers.
Do you people not undertsand it yet? The government is already involved in our
lives enough. Why the fuck would you push for them to get even more involved?
I've said it before, The more you allow the GOV in, the farther they will come.

ENOUGH WITH ALL THE FUCKING LAWS
 
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every election this issue is brought up and beat to death

[IT'S REALLY PRETTY SIMPLE]

ANY and ALL WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT IS
BEST FOR THEM. NO GOVERNMENT OR RELIGION SHOULD HAVE ANY SAY.

any law that would force a woman to give birth is just flat out WRONG!

Who the fuck do these people that push for this shit think they are?
Are they (wannabe GODS) that want to make the almighty decisions?
They should put their time and energy into helping the children that are already
born and suffering in poverty and despair, instead of adding more to the long list.

Fuck it, let's pass a law that forces women to give birth. [with a catch though]
[The catch] The people that pushed for it have to take care of those children.

The people that push for this shit are the same people that scream when their
taxes are raised in order to provide care for those children and their mothers.

This issue is just more nonsense that is nobodys business but the mothers.
Do you people not undertsand it yet? The government is already involved in our
lives enough. Why the fuck would you push for them to get even more involved?
I've said it before, The more you allow the GOV in, the farther they will come.

ENOUGH WITH ALL THE FUCKING LAWS



Because the one purpose of government is to provide justice and I am not talking about economic justice ( e.g. Welfare). I am talking about protecting law abiding citizens and innocent children from evil forces that would do harm to them if there was no law to protect them.

In this case we are clearly dealing with a human life. Government most certainly needs to be involved here in this most disgusting procedure that should indeed be outlawed. I would be very content to pay any taxes necessary to enforce a law to stop this shit.
 
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requiring medical assistance be provided to babies who survived botched attempts




SO ARE YOU SAYING YOU AGREE WITH OBAMA THAT THIS BABY SHOULD RECEIVE NO MEDICAL TREATMENT AND BE ALLOWED TO DIE ONCE IT HAS BEEN BORN.

ANYONE AGREEING WITH THIS STANCE IS LESS THAN HUMAN.:hangt



read the article nutjob before you spout off.
 
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In this case we are clearly dealing with a human life. Government most certainly needs to be involved here in this most disgusting procedure that should indeed be outlawed.

What should be outlawed, is forcing children to be born and then having
to live a life of poverty and despair. They only wish they were never born.

What's the fucking sense of being born into a life of poverty and despair?
I seriously believe that it would do a lot of children more harm than good.
It comes down to a choice, do you want to save lives or force a ruined life?

Switch your thought process for just a minute. Think about (visualize) all
of the millions of already starving and dying children [you want to add more?]

There are already way to many children suffering, why would you add to that?
If abortion was outlawed, do you realize how many more children will be added
to the already long list of poverty stricken lives destined for life in a waste land.

You want a law? Here's a law that we could use.
Before you 'pro life' (righteous) people are allowed to speak another word
about this abortion issue, you have to go spend a week in a shack in the
middle of the ghetto with no car - no job - no food - no future - NO LIFE!!!
Then and only then are you allowed to speak about the abortion issue [BY LAW].
I GUARAN-FUCKIN-TY YOU THAT MOST WOULDN'T FORCE KIDS INTO THAT LIFE.

It's a selfish act to force a child into a life of misery, poverty and despair.
 
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What should be outlawed, is forcing children to be born and then having to live a life of poverty and despair. They only wish they were never born.

You ever wonder why these kids are born into this kind of life ? It is because of socialistic, repressive, tyrannical or fascist like governments.

This is why you got guys like me running around wanting to make sure idiots like Obama don't get in there who are making a huge push for more centralized government control over peoples lives.
 
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You ever wonder why these kids are born into this kind of life ? It is because of socialistic, repressive, tyrannical or fascist like governments.
So GW and all of his republican buddies must fit into one of those categories.
That silver spoon power hungry piece of shit hasn't done a fucking thing for them.
[IN 8 FUCKING YEARS] You're just proving that republicans are scumbags too.
This is why you got guys like me running around wanting to make sure idiots like Obama don't get in there who are making a huge push for more centralized government control over peoples lives.
What did i miss, where or what push to control peoples lives?
Both parties control our lives in one way or another, there's no getting around that.
 
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so maxim
you agree with obama that once that baby is born because of botched abortion that it should be allowed to die and receive no medical treatment??
 
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so maxim
you agree with obama that once that baby is born because of botched abortion that it should be allowed to die and receive no medical treatment??
Yes, because at that point it most likely will be fucked up already and would
never have a chance at living any kind of normal or decent life whatsoever.
Who are we to force children that are fucked up to live a life in complete misery?
[people can't speak for them because most don't live like they would have too]
Ask yourself (seriously), if you knew that you were going to be born fucked up
or destined for a life of poverty and despair, would you even want to be born at all?
It's sad, there's no question about that, but it's even worse to watch them suffer.
I believe that the majority of forced births would make the children suffer even more.
 
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Isn't this a solution looking for a problem? I've never heard of any "botched abortion survivors," and a google search reveals no reputable news source claiming such. . . .If there is a link to a national news source describing same, kindly link here.
 
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you have no right to speak for that kid.
you are supporting murder.
moron
But you do have the right to speak for that kid right??? :LMAO
You're supporting forcing children into a life of misery.
I know that you pro-life righteous freaks have all the answers.

now you want to start calling names on top of it / go fuck yourself kid
 
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4625
maybe you should go check on Obama's history in the Illinois Senate and the 16 versions of the legislation regarding this subject that came and went while he was there.
in short...it granted personhood to fetus/baby that was alive after removal from its mothers body, either by abortion or premature birth. it was legislation mirrored by the federal legislation...(i know that might be over your head)
BOTTOM LINE...OBAMA LIED ABOUT HOW HE VOTED ON THIS LEGISLATION AS WELL.

DIDN'T YOU LOVE HIS RESPONSE TO PASTOR WARREN BOUT WHEN A BABY GETS HUMAN RIGHTS........"WELL, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A THEOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE OR, UH, A SCIENTIFIC PERSPECTIVE, UH, ANSWERING THAT QUESTION WITH SPECIFICITY, UH, YOU KNOW, IS, IS, UH, ABOVE MY PAY GRADE."

WTF???

ABOVE HIS PAY GRADE......

KEEP IT THERE....
 
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4625
maybe you should go check on Obama's history in the Illinois Senate and the 16 versions of the legislation regarding this subject that came and went while he was there.
in short...it granted personhood to fetus/baby that was alive after removal from its mothers body, either by abortion or premature birth. it was legislation mirrored by the federal legislation...(i know that might be over your head)
BOTTOM LINE...OBAMA LIED ABOUT HOW HE VOTED ON THIS LEGISLATION AS WELL.

DIDN'T YOU LOVE HIS RESPONSE TO PASTOR WARREN BOUT WHEN A BABY GETS HUMAN RIGHTS........"WELL, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM A THEOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE OR, UH, A SCIENTIFIC PERSPECTIVE, UH, ANSWERING THAT QUESTION WITH SPECIFICITY, UH, YOU KNOW, IS, IS, UH, ABOVE MY PAY GRADE."

WTF???

ABOVE HIS PAY GRADE......

KEEP IT THERE....

All this is nice, and some of it might not even be untruthful, but that doesn't change the one overarching factor here: wait for it, wait, wait. . . .He's not McBush. . . .12io4j2w90
 
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shocker..you came with mcbush when confronted with facts....typical lib bs.



WE NEVER REST
 
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I'll never understand how anybody can support either party with serious
devotion, it's a well known FACT that they're both a bunch of fuckin liars.
For anyone to push that hard for one against the other is just ridiculous.
THEY'RE ALL POLITICIANS - THEY ALL TELL FUCKIN STORIES - WAKE UP
[i know that some people are trained early in life, but that's their problem]
 
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I AGREE.
they all lie and tell stories.

but the dems fk us like no tomorrow vs the repubs IMO.

I don't want higher taxes
I don't want to pay for welfare cases and such
I don't want the right to bear arms taken from me
im against abortion
im for the death penalty.
and so on and so forth with about 1000 more things.
 
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I AGREE.
they all lie and tell stories.

but the dems fk us like no tomorrow vs the repubs IMO.

I don't want higher taxes
I don't want to pay for welfare cases and such
I don't want the right to bear arms taken from me
im against abortion
im for the death penalty.
and so on and so forth with about 1000 more things.
Your list here is exactly my point.
We will NEVER have a president that makes EVERYONE happy - EVER !!!

And further more, to make my point.
You can't be (against abortion) & against (higher taxes) & (paying for welfare).
ALL THAT SHIT COMES WITH BEING AGAINST ABORTION - CAN'T YOU SEE THAT?
If you don't want to pay for welfare which will bring higher taxes, then let those women that don't want to have more babies do what the fuck they want to do.

1 more thing, the 'pro-lifers' would never accept you, you're for the death penalty.
[at least we agree on that - i say, kill all them molesting murdering bastards]
 
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shocker..you came with mcbush when confronted with facts....typical lib bs.



WE NEVER REST

1) I was never confronted with facts. You invited me to do some internet research which I politely declined; as, even if any of it did turn out to have some basis in fact, the overriding issue won't be affected. You see, I don't give a rat's ass about controlling other people's reproductive system, so any law or statute attempting to do so by sleight of hand carries little or no interest, as ultimately it won't matter. Restated: you still don't understand that abortion is supported by over 70% of the population--get over it and move on to trying to force your version of the Bible onto other people's schoolchildren.

2) If you don't see what the current regime has done to our country--and what McBush has promised that he would continue to inflict, you haven't been paying attention and can't be helped.

3) You obviously have not ever examined the definition of "liberal"--if that's what you mean by "lib"--or you would know that such a term is not derogatory to anyone with a passing knowledge of Western political thought (by the way, the manner in which Rush uses the term does not comport with any reasonable interpretation of the English language). The short story is that people who are proud in their lack of knowledge regarding the actual meaning of a word--to the point where they will purposely avoid learning same--have little to offer in the way of constructive thought.

4) Assuming your misinterpretation of "liberal"--if that's what you mean by "lib"--to somehow refer to "Democrats" or other types deemed less American by the people who supply you with thoughts, you obviously have not been paying attention for the last two years, as I have patiently explained the value of the Libertarian Party to one and all.

You might wish to print this out and review it daily, it can do nothing but help you get through your obviously difficult day-to-day activities.
You're welcome, carry on. . .
 
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I AGREE.
they all lie and tell stories.

but the dems fk us like no tomorrow vs the repubs IMO.

I don't want higher taxes
I don't want to pay for welfare cases and such
I don't want the right to bear arms taken from me
im against abortion
im for the death penalty.
and so on and so forth with about 1000 more things.

yep these are the issues that will make an election in 2008......same issues that made or broke an election in 1908

you peeps over there need to get out more
 
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Completely incorrect. The one "purpose" of the government is to protect the inalienable human rights of it's citizens. That means ALL of it's citizens.


Completely incorrect -- Government is a entity which makes laws, intreprets laws and enforces laws. Therefore, I stand by my earlier statement about its sole purpose is to be an arm of justice.

"inalienable human rights" can become laws, but they must go through a debate process to get there. In the meantime, they are all up for debate.
 
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Completely incorrect -- Government is a entity which makes laws, intreprets laws and enforces laws. Therefore, I stand by my earlier statement about its sole purpose is to be an arm of justice.

"inalienable human rights" can become laws, but they must go through a debate process to get there. In the meantime, they are all up for debate.

Ridiculous. . . .Humans constructed government to allow us to live together outside of the state of nature without killing each other. Thus, we ARE the government--it's not a distinct and separate diety. We are not put here to be the prey of the government via the laws the government enables. Rather, the government is to serve "We the People"--not the other way around.
The theory that the government is supreme was tried last century by a couple of guys named Mussolini and Hitler. . . .I don't think it worked out to well for them, though. . . .
 
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Ridiculous. . . .Humans constructed government to allow us to live together outside of the state of nature without killing each other. Thus, we ARE the government--it's not a distinct and separate diety. We are not put here to be the prey of the government via the laws the government enables. Rather, the government is to serve "We the People"--not the other way around.
The theory that the government is supreme was tried last century by a couple of guys named Mussolini and Hitler. . . .I don't think it worked out to well for them, though. . . .

How the government is formed and run is up to each countries citizens and what type of government they wish to instill. I didn't mention anything about a dictatorship -- You did.
 
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