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Answer to your question:
No Costa Rican shops, that I know of, have their Servers based in Canada.
I had our tech people look up BetFirstClass. Their servers are in Costa Rica.

DNS may be what you are referring to. So with all due respect DNS is a totally different animal. And has nothing to do with a place that Cal, or anyone else, once owned.

Your posts sound like Bill Dozer's bullshit.
Get my drift?

I know your a sponsor here so I'll refrain from slamming you, although it is so easy. Please see the posts where BFC says that their servers are 100% in Canada, and review that. After that, let me know your thoughts and we'll carry on a civil conversation. This will happen when you have read the thread in whole. Thank you for swinging for the fences with the Dozer comment but maybe you should speak to some staff(head mod maybe) to see if I'm who you think I am. Get my drift?
 

betfirstclass

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FOR THE LAST TIME SERVERS ARE IN CANADA, I HAVE CALLED THE SERVICE PROVIDER SEVERAL TIMES WHEN UNFORTUATELY THE SITE WAS DOWN WHICH IS HOW I FOUND AT WE HOST SAME PLACE AS GO---DADDY & just to ck I tried logging in GO-DADDY & they down to, so I have actually called them on Canadian Ph # NOW, that said DNS1 & DNS2 & FTP info is like "Chinese" to me so I have no clue ...........

what upsets me somewhat is why does it matter if servers in Egypt as long as the lines are fast, updated & allow you to wager on sporting events you choose to wager on ..........

Have no-probs answering business related ?'s but this personal ?'s like how long lived here & lived there & what Lic we have etc etc seems lil' much

hope this helps & goodluck to everyone on games Tonight!



www.betfirstclass.com

For record one IT guys is calling LINESMOVER tonight to explain him SERVERS are indeed in Canada & to "Invite" Him to our Offices for 1st--Hand Look!
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
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SERVERS / DNS1 / DNS 2 / & FTP public--profile information

I called tech--guys to get better description of the above & to make long--story short I HAVE NO--IDEA what they are talking about but they have 100% assured me we host out of CANADA & that's where I send the CHECKS

so, If I were gambling man (which I'm NOT) I would bet the service---provider we use HOST IN CANADA . . . that said it may be in Muskogee OKLA but as long as it works . . . I don't really care where it's located but they could save me hassle of mailing checks to Canada if this is not the case ......



www.betfirstclass.com
 

playersadvocate

EOG Senior Member
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Go back to credit only. Why put up with the bullshit of postup. There is no money in it unless you plan on pulling a cascade and robbing everyone.
 

TonyMar

EOG Dedicated
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ONCE AGAIN

Let me re-assure the entire EOG community MR OSU has no-ties to betfirstclass other than he con't to KICK OUR ASS EVERY WEEK

and we do "business" on another "Level" which he may or may not choose to

Discuss ...........But ZERO---AFFILIATION as partner/backer etc etc etc


ps: MR OSU is a very humble individual, but I'm sure he might be willing to show
few of you his play History here Over the last few months & how much he
has WON ...........More Importantly HOW MUCH HE COLLECTED

OSU my-apologies if Uncle---sam @ your door wanting his 35%

tell him you blew it at the DOG---TRACK ie no--winnings left to TAX


www.betfirstclass.com 866 352 8194

is mr osu a post-up or credit customer?
 

JC

EOG Veteran
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FOR THE LAST TIME SERVERS ARE IN CANADA, I HAVE CALLED THE SERVICE PROVIDER SEVERAL TIMES WHEN UNFORTUATELY THE SITE WAS DOWN WHICH IS HOW I FOUND AT WE HOST SAME PLACE AS GO---DADDY & just to ck I tried logging in GO-DADDY & they down to, so I have actually called them on Canadian Ph # NOW, that said DNS1 & DNS2 & FTP info is like "Chinese" to me so I have no clue ...........

what upsets me somewhat is why does it matter if servers in Egypt as long as the lines are fast, updated & allow you to wager on sporting events you choose to wager on ..........

Have no-probs answering business related ?'s but this personal ?'s like how long lived here & lived there & what Lic we have etc etc seems lil' much

hope this helps & goodluck to everyone on games Tonight!



www.betfirstclass.com

For record one IT guys is calling LINESMOVER tonight to explain him SERVERS are indeed in Canada & to "Invite" Him to our Offices for 1st--Hand Look!

Why does it matter if your servers are in Canada? I'll tell you why. Unless you are licensed by Kahnawake, which it sounds like you are not, Canada is not really a safe place to keep your hardware and your databases.

If your servers are in Canada, your servers and all of your customer information is at serious risk of being compromised.

The better question is why aren't your servers in Costa Rica if that's where you are located?
 

5 star bomb

EOG Master
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Guys BEWARE of this site......... Looking like a shady site.


Posted at another site...... Most guys here don't need this warning but avoid BetFirstClass. The book is showing more red flags than this year's olympics. A BetFirstClass user ID works for sportsbooks (NetBet777 and BetDragon) with the same site registration as scambook Atlanstisbets. The site claims it is part of the SBG Global Group which SBG denies. That looks like lazy copy n paste job.
 

5 star bomb

EOG Master
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The email addresses on some pages go to @jlbets.com and @betsuperior.com. Could be more copy-paste. The site is referred to as WagerRightonline.com as well on a page or two... Site thrown together.
 
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Why does it matter if your servers are in Canada? I'll tell you why. Unless you are licensed by Kahnawake, which it sounds like you are not, Canada is not really a safe place to keep your hardware and your databases.

If your servers are in Canada, your servers and all of your customer information is at serious risk of being compromised.

The better question is why aren't your servers in Costa Rica if that's where you are located?


Exactly why I continued to ask if they are licensed by Kahnawake? JC, it seems like you asked a hard question and then BFC couldn't and still after 4x has not answered the question.
For the 5th time. ARE YOU LICENSED BY KAHNAWAKE?

Just a yes or no will do. Thank you.
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
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Simply, I have pm you on this 'Item" whom we are Licensed with & where to me is NOT relevant. What is relevant is that ALL CLIENTS WILL BE PAID and better yet within 24-hrs which no-one else can assure you these days ...........Hope this helps

Feel free call call center @ ask for Johnnie or Chuck today for better & longer explanation ...........And again, thanks for the new-signup & best of luck to all

Please realize we are smaller operation & simply no-way to reply to all the Pm's quickly (but we will get to you) Thanks so-much




www.betfirstclass.com 877 710 0929
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
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5-STAR

Please explain to me when we claimed to be affiliated with SBG as I have posted on her myself (as have mgr's) that we have ZERO affiliation with SBG. can someone else locate our post(s) & alert Mr 5-STARS that we never once claimed to be affiliated with SBG. We are spending way to much time here answering the same questions. again we are NOT AFFILIATED WITH S.B.G.



www.betfirstclass.com 877 710 0929
 
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Simply, I have pm you on this 'Item" whom we are Licensed with & where to me is NOT relevant. What is relevant is that ALL CLIENTS WILL BE PAID and better yet within 24-hrs which no-one else can assure you these days ...........Hope this helps

Feel free call call center @ ask for Johnnie or Chuck today for better & longer explanation ...........And again, thanks for the new-signup & best of luck to all

Please realize we are smaller operation & simply no-way to reply to all the Pm's quickly (but we will get to you) Thanks so-much




www.betfirstclass.com 877 710 0929

When opening a shop and advertising on a forum, you should have all of your ducks in a row. I've seen the Betonstars,Nojuice,Bet4Aces,Lazerwager and the like in the past few years. What may not be relevant to you, probably is to US THE BETTORS. Like JC said: "Unless you are licensed by Kahnawake, which it sounds like you are not, Canada is not really a safe place to keep your hardware and your databases."
So now can you see why that is important to US BETTORS or YOUR CUSTOMERS? I've got no problem giving a book a shot. None at all. What I do have a problem with is the book deciding what is and isn't important to their CUSTOMERS.
So while you don't think it's important that your databases and OUR INFO may not be safe in Canada, I'm now sure you can appreciate and understand that WE DO.

Thank you.

P.S. If you knew who JC was, I'm sure you'd pay special attention to his questions.
 

Vsdspread

EOG Member
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:+clueless
How about Wagerrightonline.com? I see in your Terms & Conditions that it mentions this website?

How come the same user id will work at dragonbets and a few othe sites? Can you explain this?
 
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How come your login information works at other sites, thats what SBR is claiming?

Bill Dozier
BetFirstClass - Steer Clear
<HR style="COLOR: #336699" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Most guys here don't need this warning but avoid BetFirstClass. The book is showing more red flags than this year's olympics. A BetFirstClass user ID works for sportsbooks (NetBet777 and BetDragon) with the same site registration as scambook Atlanstisbets. The site claims it is part of the SBG Global Group which SBG denies. That looks like lazy copy n paste job.
 
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:+clueless
How about Wagerrightonline.com? I see in your Terms & Conditions that it mentions this website?

How come the same user id will work at dragonbets and a few othe sites? Can you explain this?

I seen the usual start up problems with this book. I racked it up to mostly inexpierence in the online world. But the statement above is a very damning statement if true. Really messed up if true.
 

AK

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Answer to your question:
No Costa Rican shops, that I know of, have their Servers based in Canada.
I had our tech people look up BetFirstClass. Their servers are in Costa Rica.

DNS may be what you are referring to. So with all due respect DNS is a totally different animal. And has nothing to do with a place that Cal, or anyone else, once owned.

Your posts sound like Bill Dozer's bullshit.
Get my drift?

bill dozer is a very fair individual Don.

No reason to mix bill dozer in this mix, he is protecting and giving his opinion regarding a new pappa shop online that has traces back to scam operations and has no interest promoting other then at eog. We know the history when one sportsbook invest "all there money" in one spot. It takes more then 10k in paypal or neteller to survive in this industry.
 
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bill dozer is a very fair individual Don.

No reason to mix bill dozer in this mix, he is protecting and giving his opinion regarding a new pappa shop online that has traces back to scam operations and has no interest promoting other then at eog. We know the history when one sportsbook invest "all there money" in one spot. It takes more then 10k in paypal or neteller to survive in this industry.
Dozer isn't the most honest person in the world. Remember when he was posting saying that he had 20 years of gambling experience and it came out that he was only 26 at the time.

SBR gets a woody when they think they have something over on EOG. For the 100th time, if Shrink is guaranteeing them for $5k then what's the problem since 95% of the people on this forum won't have over $5k in an account?
 
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How come the same user id will work at dragonbets and a few othe sites? Can you explain this?

time is ticking....

2938u4ji23


not uncommon in the pph business, many shops use the same lines but a different "skin" for the customer.
 
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BFC, this is a valid question that deserves to be answered. Your failure to do so is confusing to say the least.

Thats what I've been saying all along. But I guess they think that it isn't "relevant". All that matters to them is how fast they pay(which is damn important) so they don't care about servers in Canada and not being licensed by Kahnawake. I just wish they would answer. Hell I was even told that they would answer me via PM and haven't heard jack shit. This is the 6th or 7th time its been asked. JC asked the first time. Now the silence is slowly becoming deafening.
 

AK

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not uncommon in the pph business, many shops use the same lines but a different "skin" for the customer.

Thats true but unlike these guys the other "skins" don't copy sbg terms and conditions. :blink:

I think I'm just going to stay at wsex or betjm.
 
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Thats true but unlike these guys the other "skins" don't copy sbg terms and conditions. :blink:

I think I'm just going to stay at wsex or betjm.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they won't miss your sorry ass.


OSU, do you know if Micheal is in now? Thanks.
 
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First Class Service with Chuck....signed Hogan up and I'll fund my account tomorrow...I trust The Shrink, Reload, Junkman, and others .

I'm saying Goodbye to WSEX and Hello to BetfirstClass.

And Hello to Moneygram...YES SIR 91023i2ndw;l

Hoganknows good service when he sees it :cheers
 

betfirstclass

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thanks mr hogan chuck no in. I sent to you a pm and i hope i sent to you all the receiver's info on pm in eog online mail




amber betfirstclassdotcom
 

AK

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best of luck Hogan!

No wonder why your wife left your ass :)
 

ArchieBunker

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If you had a wife, AK, she'd be out the door faster than a rat off a sinking ship. Which is a pretty good analogy of your life.
 

AK

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your a loser archie, I really dont care what you have to say.

I just know I have received 3 emails the past 2 days with a senders name begging me to send them money via western union

I wonder if its the same name hogan received...
 
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your a loser archie, I really dont care what you have to say.

I just know I have received 3 emails the past 2 days with a senders name begging me to send them money via western union

I wonder if its the same name hogan received...


Don't think so...AK

Hogan has good info and will go forward with BFC

Why all the negativity..lets all be friends and win money :cheers
 

biggamer3

EOG Master
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Why does it matter if your servers are in Canada? I'll tell you why. Unless you are licensed by Kahnawake, which it sounds like you are not, Canada is not really a safe place to keep your hardware and your databases.

If your servers are in Canada, your servers and all of your customer information is at serious risk of being compromised.

The better question is why aren't your servers in Costa Rica if that's where you are located?

JC really is the king!

Love it how the BFC poster, was knee deep in shit after all the tough legit questions were tossed and he "will ask Michael to clear things up"

BetFirstClass: You Michael help me out, i'm in a tough spot
Michael: What the fuck do i care, i just make copies for you
BFC: Google some intelligent shit and post it, you have 6 hours
 
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