BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

[TonyMar]

would you please address these comments from sbr today?

thank you

08.29.2008 (01:23 AM CST)

BetFirstClass (SBR rating D) turnkey host provider identified as BetBones (SBR rating F) operator. The BetBones group scammed players under different brands at the end of 2007. BetBones ran a handicapper scam just before closing, stiffing hopeful victims as well as its employees. BetFirstClass.com owner states that he was unaware of the history of no-pay books on the platform. Previous scams also included F rated sportsbooks BetWGN, SunsetSports, Atlantisbet and DunHillCasino.

 

[Vsdspread]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

They will make more excuses. Seriously can't people see HOW MANY ISSUES they have had sense they opened their Post Up business.

SBR is the ONLY watchdog site that has it's readers best interest.

This site is more interested in making money than providing important information.

Shrink, you should be ashamed!

 

[MadCapper]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

They will make more excuses. Seriously can't people see HOW MANY ISSUES they have had sense they opened their Post Up business.

SBR is the ONLY watchdog site that has it's readers best interest.

This site is more interested in making money than providing important information.

Shrink, you should be ashamed!

readers? or advertisers?

 

[Vsdspread]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

I think SBR does a great job representing it's members and readers!

You don't see books like USDBet, Bet911, Sportsbook.com and others as sponsors over there, do you?

 

[Hal01]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

I think SBR does a great job representing it's members and readers!

Who the fuck cares what you "think"? Seriously.

 

[5 star bomb]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

They will make more excuses. Seriously can't people see HOW MANY ISSUES they have had sense they opened their Post Up business.

SBR is the ONLY watchdog site that has it's readers best interest.

This site is more interested in making money than providing important information.

Shrink, you should be ashamed!

wrong.... The Shrink has done a lot for his posters and does care a lot.

 

[Vsdspread]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

Who the fuck cares what you "think"? Seriously.

Who the fuck are you asshole? Just because I have a few posts, doesn't mean I haven't been around.

You gives a shit what you think!

 

[betfirstclass]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

We are done answering SBR, Bill has been invited down & Bill has tried very hard to find an affiliarion and at some point the man must print that there is ZERO---AFFILIATIONS here . . . We strongly feel he will do that in time after he causes us to miss out on 1000 +++ potential deposits for this year ...........

Which is "OK" with us as we will be around next-year and perhaps get some new acct(s) then. Thanks to the one's that trusted us & we look fwd having you as acct holder's


www.betfirstclass.com

 

[betfirstclass]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

ATTN VDS:


When you find/prove that we have affiliation with one of the 11 and now 12 "CROOKS" mentioned please please please contact us & we will galdly fund your acct $500 no-questions asked. Until then would be great if you would post just 1-post "Informative" rather than trying so so so hard to say we have "Affiliations" with these fking "Crooks" . . . . Thanks so much and hope you see our side here as well. We have no-problem if you do not feel comfortable posting up here. None at all.

Thanks


Michael

 

[LinesMover]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

would you please address these comments from sbr today?

thank you

08.29.2008 (01:23 AM CST)

BetFirstClass (SBR rating D) turnkey host provider identified as BetBones (SBR rating F) operator. The BetBones group scammed players under different brands at the end of 2007. BetBones ran a handicapper scam just before closing, stiffing hopeful victims as well as its employees. BetFirstClass.com owner states that he was unaware of the history of no-pay books on the platform. Previous scams also included F rated sportsbooks BetWGN, SunsetSports, Atlantisbet and DunHillCasino.

SBR basically gave BFC and implied F Rating in their first article last Sunday.

Looks like SBR has unveiled some new information to provide an upgrade for BetFirstClass to a D Rating.

Before you start with the
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO

It should be noted that SBR usually initiates rating of new books at a C- Rating.

Not much difference between a C- and a D.

Kudos to SBR. 12io4j2w90

 

[TonyMar]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

We are done answering SBR, Bill has been invited down & Bill has tried very hard to find an affiliarion and at some point the man must print that there is ZERO---AFFILIATIONS here . . . We strongly feel he will do that in time after he causes us to miss out on 1000 +++ potential deposits for this year ...........

Which is "OK" with us as we will be around next-year and perhaps get some new acct(s) then. Thanks to the one's that trusted us & we look fwd having you as acct holder's


www.betfirstclass.com

what is bill dozer's agenda against you?

 

[DA MAN]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

Who the fuck are you asshole? Just because I have a few posts, doesn't mean I haven't been around.

You gives a shit what you think!

I don't know who he is, but if you keep up the attitude and language I may become your worst nightmare. Satisfied!

 

[betfirstclass]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

I'll be honest, & actually kinda DEFEND BILL. In talking him & 100+++ other's it's not just me, they Treat everyone like this & then wonder why 99% of them fail. To me it's extremely Obvious why the fail. That said, I truly thank BILL will come to his senses as we supply him info & he sees that clients are getting paid and are Happy. Time will Tell. Tough tho when he starts you OUT with F rating then moves you up to a D when all new books are suppose come in @ C - Status.

Ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh BILL



www.betfirstclass.com

 

[junkman773]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

Does Bill back the books at his site up to 5k:+clueless

 

[TonyMar]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

does anyone have examples of dozer doing this?

in which he raised a book from this level?

thanks

 

[durito]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

they raise and lower books daily.

i'd say D is about right in this case.

pay everybody for 6 months and move up.

in this business you don't start at the top. respect is something that is earned.

 

[ballwonder]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

I cannot believe another day another thread on BFC......really simple ladies


If you dont want to play at BFC then play somwhere else but why keep kicking the shit out of them when not one person has reported back anything negative as a member here when playing at their site...........Some people have already deposited when not wait and see what they say. Unreal.

 

[ballwonder]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

Durito you are 100 percent correct about respect being earned. But maybe just maybe he earned respect on the other side with his shop already and maybe now he is trying to earn the respect with this side of his shop. Only time will tell but until then it is posts over and over ripping them.

 

[TonyMar]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

i am not ripping them.

i was considering giving them a shot & since they are willing to discuss things...i wanted to ask bfc's thoughts on sbr's rating today.

i do read sbr and look at their ratings...that does not mean they are my bible...

intended no offense to bfc. thought it was a 'free forum'

unreal that people keep bitching about non-gambling threads...and then bitch about gambling threads.

fuck it

 

[raiders72001]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

i am not ripping them.

i was considering giving them a shot & since they are willing to discuss things...i wanted to ask bfc's thoughts on sbr's rating today.

i do read sbr and look at their ratings...that does not mean they are my bible...

intended no offense to bfc. thought it was a 'free forum'

unreal that people keep bitching about non-gambling threads...and then bitch about gambling threads.

fuck it

SBR ratings are tainted and both A and B rated books have gone under stiffing people.

 

[raiders72001]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

John was at a Supebowl party with the PanAM people with his hands out when PanAM was in slowpay/stiff mode.

 

[ballwonder]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

Tony if you took offense to what I said sorry I apologize. Yesterday alot of people were taking shots at BFC for coming in and presenting a new option to people thats all. Sorry if I offended you.

:cheers

i am not ripping them.

i was considering giving them a shot & since they are willing to discuss things...i wanted to ask bfc's thoughts on sbr's rating today.

i do read sbr and look at their ratings...that does not mean they are my bible...

intended no offense to bfc. thought it was a 'free forum'

unreal that people keep bitching about non-gambling threads...and then bitch about gambling threads.

fuck it

 

[TonyMar]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

Tony if you took offense to what I said sorry I apologize. Yesterday alot of people were taking shots at BFC for coming in and presenting a new option to people thats all. Sorry if I offended you.

:cheers

ballwonder...okay

cheers:cheers

 

[Simplythebest]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

SBR(shittybiasedreviews) has a monopoly on the ratings of sportsbooks. Who else has the ability to do what they do? Not many. Roberto fucked it up when he was doing it with the "Rookie Project". If that wouldn't of went under, he'd be doing OK still and be able to give the kid at SBR a run for his money.
SBR can basically run a book into the ground whenever it wants. Say boo and it can happen. Lets look at the books that use the same software. IQL software has books that are rated C+ down to a F. Does that mean that all books that use IQL are crooks? No. It doesn't mean FirstClass are crooks because they use the same software as some scam books? No.
We have to look at who this information is coming from. It comes from a kid at SBR that won't even take the time to visit a place within a few miles of his office. It comes from a company that is a complete joke. When it comes to ratings, anyone could do it. If I open a office in downtown San Jose tomorrow, by this time next year, I too can get a shit ton of money from books as advertisers and give them great ratings.
Betfirstclass is trying to become a book that can become sustainable. It takes time to do this. Trust is earned. When all the facts come from this book and owner( regarding licensing in Canada) and he shows that he can pay and pay fast. Then and only then will Betfirstclass earn its' name.

 

[sean1]

Re: BET FIRST CLASS, Will You Please Address SBR's Latest Charges?

Hey Betfirstclass, how about posting up $1 million in an escrow account with the Shrink or other trust entity. WHen it is verifyable that you have cash to back your book people may play with you.

Given the choice between 25% at WSEX or 30% at Heritage why would anyone choose a complete unknow.

Post up some cash and give a bank permission to legitimately post your balance and then you'll build trust - or simply have one of the many public accounting firms certify your accounts publicly