Palin.

mofome

Banned
Re: Palin.

Panic, if you woke up with an IQ of 7, would your neck be able to support the extra weight right away or would it take a while.
 

Panic

EOG Dedicated
Re: Palin.

because that's what i owe and i suspect you do too.

are you not paying social security and medicare tax?(double for being self employed)

i assume at the very least you live in the damn country.


I'm paying the same, but it looks like you arent taking deductions. They can tax your wins, but you have to show that you lose as well. Keep it on record and you can write it off. Fuck durito, you know that, if you've made a good amount of money.
 

durito

EOG Senior Member
Re: Palin.

I'm paying the same, but it looks like you arent taking deductions. They can tax your wins, but you have to show that you lose as well. Keep it on record and you can write it off. Fuck durito, you know that, if you've made a good amount of money.


Yes I am well aware of the tax code thank you very much.
 

durito

EOG Senior Member
Re: Palin.

I find it incredibly interesting that someone that filed as a professional poker player votes for the party that is trying it's hardest to make that profession every bit more difficult as possible.

Surely the tax break you might get from McCain would be offset 20x over if every dipshit in the US that wanted to play poker online could do so legally. I know it sure would for me.
 

Thor4140

EOG Dedicated
Re: Palin.

I am sure Palin will deliver a wonderful speech tonight...

But last time I checked, she isn't running for President...

However, SHE and the REPUBLICANS love to talk about FAMILY VALUES and all I ask is this...

What kind of a MOTHER gives birth to a Downs Baby in April, raises a 17 year old daughter that's 5 months pregnant and runs for Vice President?

That alone speaks volumes about her priorities regarding her Family, IMHO...

I truly believe her handicapped Son, her Daughter and impending Grandchild are going to need her more than a man she met one time (McCain)...

My 2 cents,

THE SHRINK

Shrink Rudy bullshitter 9/11 said "how dare you ask this question?"
 
Re: Palin.

In 3 months you'll never hear of Palin ever again.

Yeah, that's what i've been saying recently.

She will be nice eye candy(I guess) for 2 months and then she'll scamper back to the great state of Alaska and resume her life.

I applaud her.
 

Panic

EOG Dedicated
Re: Palin.

I find it incredibly interesting that someone that filed as a professional poker player votes for the party that is trying it's hardest to make that profession every bit more difficult as possible.

Surely the tax break you might get from McCain would be offset 20x over if every dipshit in the US that wanted to play poker online could do so legally. I know it sure would for me.


The bulk of my play is live. Not online.
 
Re: Palin.

I am under the age of 30........and I am 100 percent for OBAMA. But I will say that I think Palin is a very interesting political figure and will be the big voice of the Republican Party in the next 10 years. They just didn't have time to wait for her to develop into the star. It all seems a little rushed. I truly think she will be someone special, but I certainly would be worried if McCain died in office and she had to assume Presidential duties at this time. I think Obama can bring about a needed change after 8 years of Bush.

Mel Martinez, Tim Pawlenty, and Bobby Jindal are the rising stars of the Republican Party. If McCain loses this election I would expect at least one of these three men to be on the 2012 ticket.
 

Panic

EOG Dedicated
Re: Palin.

Well, perhaps one day they will take that away too. Hopefully McCain can win and do just that.

Tomato..tamato. It will not make a difference to my living. It makes no sense to act like your gambling career begins and ends with the decision of McCain. Cmon Durito. If you play live in Vegas, Cali, Jersey,...it doesnt matter who is President. It is legal and wont stop, regardless who is President. If you're gonna cry about McCain because you might not be able to bet online, then you shouldnt bet anyway. You dont have the bank.
 

durito

EOG Senior Member
Re: Palin.

I don't live in the United States, I can bet anywhere online anytime I want. I don't play poker so I know nothing about that. I know I've never seen a sportsbook in Jersey though.

My interest is in seeing that Americans are still able to gamble online. It's a lot easier to take money from a sportsbook when there are 3 million squares betting the other side of the game. If all that's left are sharps that find their way around the rules, you are fighting over scraps. Watch the ever shrinking limits on US sports at pinnacle.
 

Apple

Banned
Re: Palin.

I don't live in the United States, I can bet anywhere online anytime I want. I don't play poker so I know nothing about that. I know I've never seen a sportsbook in Jersey though.

My interest is in seeing that Americans are still able to gamble online. It's a lot easier to take money from a sportsbook when there are 3 million squares betting the other side of the game. If all that's left are sharps that find their way around the rules, you are fighting over scraps. Watch the ever shrinking limits on US sports at pinnacle.


True.. :cheers
 

Panic

EOG Dedicated
Re: Palin.

I don't live in the United States, I can bet anywhere online anytime I want. I don't play poker so I know nothing about that. I know I've never seen a sportsbook in Jersey though.

My interest is in seeing that Americans are still able to gamble online. It's a lot easier to take money from a sportsbook when there are 3 million squares betting the other side of the game. If all that's left are sharps that find their way around the rules, you are fighting over scraps. Watch the ever shrinking limits on US sports at pinnacle.


lol. Well fuck, durito.:LMAO I live in the US. I play poker in Vegas, Cali, and Jersey. Atlantic city has one of the best action games for poker in the states. The online sportsbook situation will have no effect on me. I cant bet anywhere on line like you. But we each have our strengths.
 

Panic

EOG Dedicated
Re: Palin.

Durito is easily one of the best posters on the forums. That said, 7 minutes ago you claimed he was a moron.


I need to go back and look. But let me say this....if i did...I AM THE MORON for saying that.
 

trytrytry

All I do is trytrytry
Re: Palin.

i did not realize she was so sarcastic, that was intersting. Will be a bright star in about 12 years or so. good potential.
 

Panic

EOG Dedicated
Re: Palin.

I barely even know the name 'durito', but you're a moron regardless of how you're serach turns out.


lol. kosar, does any one know who you are? Regardless, nice job hooking onto my posts. Hey, eventually, you will be able to make some for yourself.
 
Re: Palin.

How about someone that proposes developing an energy strategy that will reduce our dependence on foreign dictators?

Does obama have a plan? HELL NO, just a slogan!

How about someone that proposes to try and fix our ridiculous poor health care system?
That is not a responsibility of the government and our health care
system is the greatest in the world. Where the heck do you live? :doh1
 

durito

EOG Senior Member
Re: Palin.

How about someone that proposes developing an energy strategy that will reduce our dependence on foreign dictators?

Does obama have a plan? HELL NO, just a slogan!

How about someone that proposes to try and fix our ridiculous poor health care system?
That is not a responsibility of the government and our health care
system is the greatest in the world. Where the heck do you live? :doh1

I live in a third world shit hole in a mudhut and I have better health coverage here than I did in the US>
 

durito

EOG Senior Member
Re: Palin.

BARACK OBAMA: NEW ENERGY FOR AMERICA
America has always risen to great challenges, and our dependence on oil is one of the greatest we have
ever faced. It’s a threat to our national security, our planet and our economy. For decades, Washington
has failed to solve this problem because of partisanship, the undue influence of special interests, and
politicians who would rather propose gimmicks to get them through an election instead of long‐term
solutions that will get America closer to energy independence.
Our country cannot afford politics as usual – not at a moment when the energy challenge we face is so
great and the consequences of inaction are so dangerous. We must act quickly and we must act boldly to
transform our entire economy – from our cars and our fuels to our factories and our buildings.
Achieving this goal will not be easy. Energy independence will require far more than the same
Washington gimmicks and continued dependence on costly and finite resources. It will require a
sustained and shared effort by our government, our businesses, and the American people. But America
has overcome great challenges before. With clarity of direction and leadership, there is no question that
we possess the insight, resources, courage and the determination to build a new economy that is
powered by clean and secure energy.
Barack Obama has a comprehensive energy plan that provides immediate relief to struggling families. It
also summons the nation to face one of the great challenges of our time: confronting our dependence on
foreign oil, addressing the moral, economic and environmental challenge of global climate change, and
building a clean energy future that benefits all Americans.
Obama’s comprehensive New Energy for America plan will:
• Provide short‐term relief to American families facing pain at the pump
• Help create five million new jobs by strategically investing $150 billion over the next ten years
to catalyze private efforts to build a clean energy future.
• Within 10 years save more oil than we currently import from the Middle East and Venezuela
combined
• Put 1 million Plug‐In Hybrid cars – cars that can get up to 150 miles per gallon – on the road by
2015, cars that we will work to make sure are built here in America
• Ensure 10 percent of our electricity comes from renewable sources by 2012, and 25 percent by
2025
• Implement an economy‐wide cap‐and‐trade program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions 80
percent by 2050
SHORTTERM
SOLUTIONS: IMMEDIATE RELIEF FROM PAIN AT THE PUMP
Barack Obama recognizes that skyrocketing energy costs are taking a heavy toll on American families. To
address the squeeze on Americans, Obama is calling for an: emergency energy rebate; an aggressive plan
to crack down on speculators; and a swap of oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to help provide
immediate relief from soaring energy prices.
• Immediately Provide Emergency Energy Rebate. Barack Obama will require oil companies to
take a reasonable share of their record‐breaking windfall profits and use it to provide direct relief
worth $500 for an individual and $1,000 for a married couple. The relief would be delivered as
quickly as possible to help families cope with the rising price of gasoline, food and other
necessities. The rebates would be fully paid for with five years of a windfall profits tax on record
oil company profits. This relief would be a down payment on Obama’s long‐term plan to provide
middle‐class families with at least $1,000 per year in permanent tax relief. The Obama energy
rebates will: offset the entire increase in gas prices for a working family over the next four
months; or pay for the entire increase in winter heating bills for a typical family in a cold‐weather
state. In addition, Obama has proposed setting aside a portion of a second round of fiscal stimulus
to ensure sufficient funding for home heating and weatherization assistance as we move into the
fall and winter months
• Crack Down on Excessive Energy Speculation. Current loopholes in Commodity Futures Trading
Commission regulations have contributed to the skyrocketing price of oil on world
markets. Barack Obama will enact simple legislation to close these loopholes and increase
transparency on the market to help bring oil prices down and prevent traders from unfairly lining
their pockets at the expense of the American people.
• Swap Light and Heavy Crude, Release Oil from Strategic Petroleum Reserve to Cut Prices. The
United States’ Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) is there for a purpose: to help Americans in
times of crisis. Barack Obama believes the doubling of oil prices in the past year is a crisis for
millions of Americans and the transfer of wealth to oil producing countries, many of them hostile
to our interests, is a threat to our national security. With the goal of bringing down prices at the
pump, he supports releasing light oil from the SPR now and replacing it later with heavier crude
more suited to our long‐term needs.
MIDTO
LONGTERM
SOLUTIONS: NEW ENERGY FOR AMERICA
Our nation is confronted by two major energy challenges –our dependence on foreign oil and global
climate change – both of which stem from our current dependence on fossil fuels for energy. Barack
Obama believes we have a moral, environmental, economic, and security imperative to address our
dependence on foreign oil and tackle climate change in a serious, sustainable manner.
Tackle Climate Change
As a result of climate change, the polar ice caps are shrinking causing sea levels to rise; extreme weather
is wreaking havoc across the globe; droughts are becoming more severe, tropical diseases are migrating
north and numerous species are being threatened with extinction.
• Implement Cap and Trade Program to Reduce Greenhouse Gas Emissions. Barack Obama
supports implementation of an economy‐wide cap‐and‐trade system to reduce carbon emissions
by the amount scientists say is necessary: 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050. This market
mechanism has worked before and will give all American consumers and businesses the
incentives to use their ingenuity to develop economically effective solutions to climate change.
Obama's cap‐and‐trade policy will require all pollution credits to be auctioned. A 100 percent
auction ensures that all industries pay for every ton of emissions they release, rather than giving
these valuable emission rights away to companies on the basis of their past pollution. A small
portion of the receipts generated by auctioning allowances ($15 billion per year) will be used to
support the development of clean energy, invest in energy efficiency improvements, and help
develop the next generation of biofuels and clean energy vehicles – measures that will help the
economy and help meet the emissions reduction targets. It will also be used to provide new
funding to state and federal land and wildlife managers to restore habitat, create wildlife
migration corridors, and assist fish and wildlife to adapt to the effects of a warming climate. All
remaining receipts will be used for rebates and other transition relief to ensure that families and
communities are not adversely impacted by the transition to a new energy, low carbon economy.
• Make the U.S. a Leader on Climate Change. Barack Obama understands that the only real
solution to climate change requires all major emitting nations to join in the solution. While it is
time for America to lead, developing nations like China and Brazil must not be far behind in
making their own binding commitments. To develop an effective and equitable global program,
Obama will re‐engage with the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCC) – the
main international forum dedicated to addressing the climate problem. He will also invigorate the
Major Economies (MEM) effort and bring all the major emitting nations together to develop
effective emissions reduction efforts.
Invest in Our Secure Energy Future and Create 5 Million New Jobs
Barack Obama will use a portion of the revenue generated from the cap‐and‐trade permit auction to
make investments that will reduce our dependence on foreign oil and accelerate deployment of lowcarbon
technologies. The investments will focus on three critical areas: 1) Basic Research; 2) Technology
Demonstration and 3) Aggressive Commercial Deployment and Clean Market Creation.
• Invest In A Clean Energy Economy and Help Create 5 Million New Green Jobs. Obama will
strategically invest $150 billion over 10 years to accelerate the commercialization of plug‐in
hybrids, promote development of commercial scale renewable energy, encourage energy
efficiency, invest in low emissions coal plants, advance the next generation of biofuels and fuel
infrastructure, and begin transition to a new digital electricity grid. The plan will also invest in
America's highly‐skilled manufacturing workforce and manufacturing centers to ensure that
American workers have the skills and tools they need to pioneer the green technologies that will
be in high demand throughout the world. All together these investments will help the private
sector create 5 million new green jobs, good jobs that cannot be outsourced.
• Create a “Green Vet Initiative”. The renewable energy economy is exploding in the United States.
In terms of venture capital alone, private investment in the sector topped $2.6 billion dollars in
2007. At the same time, more than 837,000 troops who served in Iraq or Afghanistan are now
veterans. As president, Barack Obama will ensure that more of our veterans can enter the new
energy economy. He will create a new “Green Vet Initiative” that will have two missions: first it
will offer counseling and job placement to help veterans gain the skills to enter this rapidly
growing field; second, it will work with industry partners to create career pathways and
educational programs.
• Convert our Manufacturing Centers into Clean Technology Leaders. America boasts the
highest‐skilled manufacturing workforce in the world and advanced manufacturing facilities that
have powered economic growth in America for decades. Barack Obama believes that America
companies and workers should build the high‐demand technologies of the future, and he will help
nurture America’s success in clean technology manufacturing by establishing a federal investment
program to help manufacturing centers modernize and help Americans learn new skills to
produce green products. This federal grant program will allocate money to the states to identify
and support local manufacturers with the most compelling plans for modernizing existing or
closed manufacturing facilities to produce new advanced clean technologies. This investment will
help provide the critical up‐front capital needed by small and mid‐size manufacturers to produce
these innovative new technologies. Along with an increased federal investment in the research,
development and deployment of advanced technologies, this $1 billion per year investment will
help spur sustainable economic growth in communities across the country.
• Create New Job Training Programs for Clean Technologies. The Obama plan will increase
funding for federal workforce training programs and direct these programs to incorporate green
technologies training, such as advanced manufacturing and weatherization training, into their
efforts to help Americans find and retain stable, high‐paying jobs. Obama will also create an
energy‐focused youth jobs program to invest in disconnected and disadvantaged youth. This
program will provide youth participants with energy efficiency and environmental service
opportunities to improve the energy efficiency of homes and buildings in their communities, while
also providing them with practical skills and experience in important career fields of expected
high‐growth employment. Participants will not only be able to use their training to find new jobs,
but also build skills that will help them move up the career ladder over time.
Make our Cars, Trucks and SUV’s Fuel Efficient
Last year, oil provided more than 96 percent of the energy in our vehicles. It is an economic, national
security and environmental imperative that this near‐total dependence come to an end. To achieve this
goal, Obama will implement a strategy that will – within 10 years ‐ allow us to reduce our consumption of
oil by more than we currently import from the Middle East and Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela combined. In
order to do that, he will:
• Increase Fuel Economy Standards. Obama will increase fuel economy standards 4 percent per
each year while protecting the financial future of domestic automakers. The plan, which will save
nearly a half trillion gallons of gasoline and 6 billion metric tons of greenhouse gases, will
establish concrete targets for annual fuel efficiency increases while giving industry the flexibility
to meet those targets.
• Invest in Developing Advanced Vehicles and Put 1 Million Plugin
Electric Vehicles on the Road
by 2015. As a U.S. senator, Barack Obama has led efforts to jumpstart federal investment in
advanced vehicles, including combined plug‐in hybrid/flexible fuel vehicles, which can get over
150 miles per gallon of gas As president, Obama will continue this leadership by investing in
advanced vehicle technology with a specific focus on R&D in advanced battery technology. The
increased federal funding will leverage private sector funds and support our domestic automakers
to bring plug‐in hybrids and other advanced vehicles to American consumers. Obama will also
provide a $7,000 tax credit for the purchase of advanced technology vehicles as well as conversion
tax credits. And to help create a market and show government leadership in purchasing highly
efficient cars, an Obama administration will commit to:
o Within one year of becoming President, the entire White House fleet will be converted to
plug‐ins as security permits; and
o Half of all cars purchased by the federal government will be plug‐in hybrids or all‐electric
by 2012
• Partner with Domestic Automakers. Obama will also provide $4 billion retooling tax credits and
loan guarantees for domestic auto plants and parts manufacturers, so that the new fuel‐efficient
cars can be built in the U.S. by American workers rather than overseas. This measure will
strengthen the U.S. manufacturing sector and help ensure that American workers will build the
high‐demand cars of the future.
• Mandate All New Vehicles are Flexible Fuel Vehicles. Sustainably‐produced biofuels can create
jobs, protect the environment and help end oil addiction – but only if Americans drive cars that
will take such fuels. Obama will work with Congress and auto companies to ensure that all new
vehicles have FFV capability – the capability by the end of his first term in office.
• Develop the Next Generation of Sustainable Biofuels and Infrastructure. Advances in biofuels,
including cellulosic ethanol, biobutenol and other new technologies that produce synthetic
petroleum from sustainable feedstocks offer tremendous potential to break our addiction to oil.
Barack Obama will work to ensure that these clean alternative fuels are developed and
incorporated into our national supply as soon as possible. He will require at least 60 billion gallons
of advanced biofuels by 2030. Obama will invest federal resources, including tax incentives and
government contracts into developing the most promising technologies and building the
infrastructure to support them.
• Establish a National Low Carbon Fuel Standard. Barack Obama will establish a National Low
Carbon Fuel Standard (LCFS) to speed the introduction of low‐carbon non‐petroleum fuels. The
standard requires fuels suppliers in 2010 to begin to reduce the carbon of their fuel by 5 percent
within 5 years and 10 percent within 10 years. The Obama plan will incentivize increased private
sector investment in advanced low‐carbon fuels and has a sustainability provision to ensure that
increased biofuels production does not come at the expense of environmental conservation. The
LCFS is an important mechanism in ensuring that our efforts to reduce our oil dependence also
reduce carbon emissions.
Promote the Supply of Domestic Energy
With 3 percent of the world’s oil reserves, the U.S. cannot drill our way to energy security. But U.S. oil and
gas production plays an important role in our domestic economy and remains critical to prevent global
energy prices from climbing even higher. There are several key opportunities to support increased U.S.
production of oil and gas that do not require opening up currently protected areas.
• A “Use it or Lose It” Approach to Existing Leases. Oil companies have access to 68 million acres
of land, over 40 million offshore, which they are not drilling on. Drilling in open areas could
significantly increase domestic oil and gas production. Obama will require oil companies to
diligently develop these leases or turn them over so that another company can develop them.
• Promote the Responsible Domestic Production of Oil and Natural Gas. An Obama
administration will set up a process for early identification of any infrastructure
obstacles/shortages or possible federal permitting process delays to drilling in:
o Bakken Shale in Montana and North Dakota which could have as much as 4 billion
recoverable barrels of oil according to the U.S. Geological Survey.
o Unconventional natural gas supplies in the Barnett Shale formation in Texas and the
Fayetteville Shale in Arkansas.
o National Petroleum Reserve‐Alaska (NPR‐A) which comprises 23.5 million acres of federal
land set aside by President Harding to secure the nation's petroleum reserves for national
security purposes.
• Prioritize the Construction of the Alaska Natural Gas Pipeline. As president, Obama will work
with stakeholders to facilitate construction of the pipeline. While this pipeline was proposed in
1976, and Congress authorized up to $18 billion in loan guarantees for this project in 2004, there
has been no progress in building this critical energy infrastructure under the Bush
Administration. The planned pipeline would have a daily capacity of 4 billion cubic feet of natural
gas, or almost 7 percent of current U.S. consumption. Not only is this pipeline critical to our
energy security, it will create thousands of new jobs.
• Getting More from our Existing Oil Fields. Nationally, experts believe that up to 85 billion barrels
of technically recoverable oil remains stranded in existing fields. Enhanced oil recovery (EOR)
using carbon dioxide offers an immediate‐ to medium‐term opportunity to produce more oil from
existing fields. And in the EOR process, large quantities of CO2 can be sequestered underground,
reducing global warming pollution. Under an Obama Administration, we will pass a carbon capand‐
trade‐bill, which will incentivize emitters to send their CO2 to old oil fields for EOR, thereby
providing economic benefits while also stimulating additional domestic oil and gas production. To
speed that process, we will map all stationary CO2 sources and develop a database to help
industry calculate the most cost‐effective oil field destination for each source's CO2.
Diversify Our Energy Sources
There are no silver bullet solutions to our energy crises. Our economy, security and environment will be
best served through a sustained effort to diversify our energy sources. Barack Obama will:
• Require 10 Percent of Electricity to Come from Renewable Sources by 2012. Barack Obama will
establish a 10 percent federal Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) to require that 10 percent of
electricity consumed in the U.S. is derived from clean, sustainable energy sources, like solar, wind
and geothermal by 2012. Many states are already well on their way to achieving statewide goals
and it’s time for the federal government to provide leadership for the entire country to support
these new industries. This national requirement will spur significant private sector investment in
renewable sources of energy and create thousands of new American jobs, especially in rural areas.
And Obama will also extend the federal Production Tax Credit (PTC) for 5 years to encourage the
production of renewable energy.
• Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology. Carbon capture and storage technologies hold
enormous potential to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions as we power our economy with
domestically produced and secure energy. As a U.S. Senator, Obama has worked tirelessly to
ensure that clean coal technology becomes commercialized. An Obama administration will
provide incentives to accelerate private sector investment in commercial scale zero‐carbon coal
facilities. In order to maximize the speed with which we advance this critical technology, Obama
will instruct DOE to enter into public private partnerships to develop 5 “first‐of‐a‐kind”
commercial scale coal‐fired plants with carbon capture and sequestration.
• Safe and Secure Nuclear Energy. Nuclear power represents more than 70 percent of our noncarbon
generated electricity. It is unlikely that we can meet our aggressive climate goals if we
eliminate nuclear power as an option. However, before an expansion of nuclear power is
considered, key issues must be addressed including: security of nuclear fuel and waste, waste
storage, and proliferation. Barack Obama introduced legislation in the U.S. Senate to establish
guidelines for tracking, controlling and accounting for spent fuel at nuclear power plants. To
prevent international nuclear material from falling into terrorist hands abroad, Obama worked
closely with Sen. Dick Lugar (R‐IN) to strengthen international efforts to identify and stop the
smuggling of weapons of mass destruction. As president, Obama will make safeguarding nuclear
material both abroad and in the U.S. a top anti‐terrorism priority. In terms of waste storage,
Obama does not believe that Yucca Mountain is a suitable site. He will lead federal efforts to look
for safe, long‐term disposal solutions based on objective, scientific analysis. In the meantime,
Obama will develop requirements to ensure that the waste stored at current reactor sites is
contained using the most advanced dry‐cask storage technology available.
Commitment to Efficiency to Reduce Energy Use and Lower Costs
According to the United Nations, America is only the 22nd most energy efficient country among the major
economies in the world, which means we spend more on energy than we need to because our lifestyle
and our built environment are wasting too much excess energy. Since 1973, the average amount of
electricity each of us uses has tripled. We can do better. An Obama administration will strive to make
America the most energy efficient country in the world.
• Deploy the Cheapest, Cleanest, Fastest Energy SourceEnergy
Efficiency. The Department of
Energy (DOE) projects that demand for electricity will increase by 1.1 percent per year over the
next few decades. Cutting this demand growth through efficiency is both possible and
economically sound. Barack Obama will set an aggressive energy efficiency goal—to reduce
electricity demand 15 percent from DOE’s projected levels by 2020. Implementing this program
will save consumers a total of $130 billion, reduce carbon dioxide emissions by more than 5 billion
tons through 2030, and create jobs. A portion of this goal would be met by setting annual demand
reduction targets that utilities would need to meet. The rest would come from more stringent
building and appliance standards.
• Set National Building Efficiency Goals. Obama will establish a goal of making all new buildings
carbon neutral, or produce zero emissions, by 2030. He'll also establish a national goal of
improving new building efficiency by 50 percent and existing building efficiency by 25 percent
over the next decade to help us meet the 2030 goal.
• Overhaul Federal Efficiency Standards. The current Department of Energy has missed 34
deadlines for setting updated appliance efficiency standards, which has cost American consumers
millions of dollars in unrealized energy savings. Obama will overhaul this process for appliances
and provide more resources to his Department of Energy so it implements regular updates for
efficiency standards. He will also work with Congress to ensure that it continues to play a key role
in improving our national efficiency codes.
• Reduce Federal Energy Consumption. Currently, the federal government is the world’s largest
single consumer of energy in the world, spending approximately $14.5 billion on energy
consumption in FY 2008. Barack Obama believes in the importance of leading by example. He will
make the federal government a leader in the green building market, achieving a 40 percent
increase in efficiency in all new federal buildings within five years and ensuring that all new
federal buildings are zero‐emissions by 2025. He will invest in cost‐effective retrofits to achieve a
25 percent increase in efficiency of existing federal buildings within 5 years. The Obama plan will
put forward the resources necessary to achieve a 15 percent reduction in federal energy
consumption by 2015. This will result in savings for the government
• Flip Incentives to Energy Utilities. An Obama administration will “flip” incentives to utility
companies by: requiring states to conduct proceedings to implement incentive changes; and
offering them targeted technical assistance. These measures will benefit utilities for improving
energy efficiency, rather than just from supporting higher energy consumption. This “regulatory
equity” starts with the decoupling of profits from increased energy usage, which will incentivize
utilities to partner with consumers and the federal and state governments to reduce monthly
energy bills for families and businesses. The federal government under an Obama administration
will play an important and positive role in flipping the profit model for the utility sector so that
shareholder profit is based on reliability and performance as opposed to total production.
• Invest in a Smart Grid. Achieving these aggressive energy efficiency goals will require significant
innovation in the way we transmit electricity and monitor its use. Obama will pursue a major
investment in our national utility grid using smart metering, distributed storage and other
advanced technologies to accommodate 21st century energy requirements: greatly improved
electric grid reliability and security, a tremendous increase in renewable generation and greater
customer choice and energy affordability. Obama will establish a Grid Modernization Commission
to facilitate adoption of Smart Grid practices across the nation's electricity grid to the point of
general adoption and ongoing market support in the U.S. electric sector. He will instruct the
Secretary of Energy to: (1) establish a Smart Grid Investment Matching Grant Program to provide
reimbursement of one‐fourth of qualifying Smart Grid investments; (2) conduct programs to
deploy advanced techniques for managing peak load reductions and energy efficiency savings on
customer premises from smart metering, demand response, distributed generation and electricity
storage systems; and (3) establish demonstration projects specifically focused on advanced
technologies for power grid sensing, communications, analysis, and power flow control, including
the integration of demand‐side resources into grid management.
• Weatherize One Million Homes Annually. In the struggle with higher energy prices low income
families are suffering the most and receiving the least attention. Across the nation, poor families
this winter will increasingly face the choice between heating and eating as prices for natural gas,
heating oil, propane and electricity skyrocket. To address the immediate challenge this winter,
we must fully fund LIHEAP and ensure that everyone who needs it has access to heating
assistance. Over the longer‐term, a significant part of the answer for low income families is home
weatherization. By upgrading a home’s furnace, sealing leaky ducts, fixing windows, and adding
insulation we can cut energy bills by 20 ‐ 40 percent and the substantial savings accrue with
summer air conditioning as well as winter heating. And by adding energy efficient appliances and
lighting the savings are even greater. While the nation has weatherized about 5.5 million lowincome
homes since 1976, more than 28 million remain eligible. Obama will make a national
commitment to weatherize at least one million low‐income homes each year for the next decade,
which can reduce energy usage across the economy and help moderate energy prices for all.
• Build More Livable and Sustainable Communities: Over the long term, we know that the amount
of fuel we will use is directly related to our land use decisions and development patterns. For the
last 100 years, our communities have been organized around the principle of cheap gasoline.
Barack Obama believes that we must devote substantial resources to repairing our roads and
bridges. He also believes that we must devote significantly more attention to investments that will
make it easier for us to walk, bicycle and access other transportation alternatives. Obama is
committed to reforming the federal transportation funding and leveling employer incentives for
driving and public transit.
 
Re: Palin.

lol. kosar, does any one know who you are? Regardless, nice job hooking onto my posts. Hey, eventually, you will be able to make some for yourself.

lol-

Uh, no, 'panic.' Nobody knows who I am. I recognized you as someone whose posts I should 'hook onto', closed my eyes, and hoped for the best!
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: Palin.

I am sure Palin will deliver a wonderful speech tonight...

But last time I checked, she isn't running for President...

However, SHE and the REPUBLICANS love to talk about FAMILY VALUES and all I ask is this...

What kind of a MOTHER gives birth to a Downs Baby in April, raises a 17 year old daughter that's 5 months pregnant and runs for Vice President?

That alone speaks volumes about her priorities regarding her Family, IMHO...

I truly believe her handicapped Son, her Daughter and impending Grandchild are going to need her more than a man she met one time (McCain)...

My 2 cents,

THE SHRINK

Greetings Mr. Shrink:

Which is worse?

Your judgements about Sarah Palin's character and qualifcations for public office?

Or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m89m0pC_bpY?

For the Munchkin Man, it is no contest.

Best Wishes,

Munchkin Man
 

JC

EOG Veteran
Re: Palin.

We have two choices. Of the two, Obama is the best choice.

Why Obama?

He's intelligent.

He claims he wants to get out of Iraq.

He is not beholden to the religious retards.

He will appoint judges that have more respect for civil liberties.

Why not McCain?

He's part of the problem, has been in Washington forever.

He thinks we should stay in Iraq a long time.

He is beholden to the religious retards.

He will appoint judges that continue the trend of trashing the constitution.

==================================


In the past 8 years, the Republicans have grown the size of the Federal government, even excluding the defense portion. Shrinking the Federal government has always been their best platform, but they dont practice what they preach.

The Republicans also want to be in everyone's business. They want to tell you what you can and can't do based on their narrow moral view of the world. Think UIGEA, think an over zealous FCC, think pro-lifers. They have taken the nanny state crown.
 

NoNewbieca

EOG Dedicated
Re: Palin.

First of all, let's give credit where credit is due. For someone making the speech of her life Sarah Palin did an excellent job. She smiled, she was clear, and she made some excellent points. She is likeable, and she made John McCain look smarter for choosing someone who can be a breath of fresh air in politics. There is also a special place in heaven for any parent who cares for a special needs child. A Down Syndrome child will not be an easy road for anyone in that family. Credit too to the speech writer who wrote that speech making this unknown person, introduce herself and her family to the country and then talk about some of the issues.

The question about the 17yo daughter, was never about the DAUGHTER, but the choice of a junior running mate by McCain KNOWING that there would be those who would hold it against her.

How quickly do you think the Republican Party delivered an airline ticket to daughter's high school boyfriend??! Poor sap has had his choices made for him now, and I am glad that he's not my son.

The defining issue for me in this election to watch as an outsider is (and always has been) what is the exit strategy for Iraq??! Incredibly the Republicans are using words like "victory"!! Sarah, what does "victory" look like to you and John McCain in Iraq? If the answer is that you want Baghdad to look like NYC with a McDonalds and Starbucks on every corner with a thriving metropolis with the American flag waving right below the Iraqi flag then this will NEVER happen. You have a divided country that the moment the US leaves will abandon self-rule and enter full scale civil war to divide this country up. So, while I am respectful of the dedication she has to a cause that she's willing to put her son in harm's way for, but I can only hope for her sake that he doesn't come home in a body bag. Don't be one of the thousands of other parents who have buried sons and daughters for an undeclared war. This invasion hasn't found Osama Bin Laden any faster, and hasn't lessened terrorist attacks around the world. You hung Saddam Hussein and avenged Dubyah's Father but beyond that you have accomplished very little.

The debates should be interesting. Finally there is some reason to watch the debates and hear how Sarah Palin speaks without a teleprompter. Frankly. I think she'll do very well and it is good to have a choice of articulate people. If only we had such a wealth of talent in our leaders in Canada.
 

JC

EOG Veteran
Re: Palin.

Lets also not forget she was reading a speech written by a man, a Bush speech writer. So she's good at reading a teleprompter, hurrah!

She has been totally isolated from the press and has yet to take any direct questions since she has been selected.
 
Re: Palin.

I am sure Palin will deliver a wonderful speech tonight...

But last time I checked, she isn't running for President...

However, SHE and the REPUBLICANS love to talk about FAMILY VALUES and all I ask is this...

What kind of a MOTHER gives birth to a Downs Baby in April, raises a 17 year old daughter that's 5 months pregnant and runs for Vice President?

That alone speaks volumes about her priorities regarding her Family, IMHO...

I truly believe her handicapped Son, her Daughter and impending Grandchild are going to need her more than a man she met one time (McCain)...

My 2 cents,

THE SHRINK

If her husband was the one running for VP, would you be asking these same questions? For years, men have run for and held office, and no one has ever questioned the quality of devotion they have for their families. Why is it a question now?
 
Re: Palin.

If her husband was the one running for VP, would you be asking these same questions? For years, men have run for and held office, and no one has ever questioned the quality of devotion they have for their families. Why is it a question now?

Nancy,

With all due respect, this quality of devotion argument doesn't hold when someone is running for the VICE PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, whether it's a male or female...

A Down's baby requires MORE ATTENTION, and so does a pregnant teenager. Do you REALLY think her husband and NANNY can replace what a MOM brings to the table?

Also, as JC stated, she is GLUED to the RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS who claim:

1: CREATIONISM must be taught in School along side EVOLUTION...

2: She claims ABSTINENCE over SEX ED

3: There is no such thing as GLOBAL WARMING...

4: Palin LIED once again last night when she claimed she was against the BRIDGE TO NOWHERE:

The Facts:

As mayor of Wasilla, Palin hired a lobbyist and traveled to Washington annually to support earmarks for the town totaling $27 million. In her two years as governor, Alaska has requested nearly $750 million in special federal spending, by far the largest per-capita request in the nation. While Palin notes she rejected plans to build a $398 million bridge from Ketchikan to an island with 50 residents and an airport, that opposition came only after the plan was ridiculed nationally as a "bridge to nowhere."

5:By ALL indications, she appears to have ABUSED her POWER while in office to try and fire her ex Brother-In Law...

If nothing else, there certainly is a CREDIBILITY GAP involving Palin when it comes to examining what she says...

And although her speech was brilliant, nowhere in her speech did she demonstrate that she can be vice-president. She's still the former Mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, who didn't even know what the vice-president did until a couple weeks ago, who admitted that she doesn't pay attention to Iraq, who's stonewalling investigations into her alleged misconduct, and who took advantage of the very earmark process she claims to be against....12io4j2w90

THE SHRINK
 
Re: Palin.

Nancy,

With all due respect, this quality of devotion argument doesn't hold when someone is running for the VICE PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, whether it's a male or female...

A Down's baby requires MORE ATTENTION, and so does a pregnant teenager. Do you REALLY think her husband and NANNY can replace what a MOM brings to the table?

Wow. That's about the most sexist, ridiculous thing I've ever read and I am truly shocked to see it coming from you.
 
Re: Palin.

So now Im a sexist and you didn't answer any of the points that were made...

How convenient...

And I'm shocked you would want a child not being taught anything about SEX ED...:blink:

Lets say I am a sexist so we can move on, but my Family and Friends know me so much better and they'd laugh at this claim...

The problem I have with some conservatives is that they can NEVER admit some of their beliefs are OUT of touch with reality, so the best way around it is to attack me and say I am a SEXIST..

Now stick with the other points I made and tell me your position on them please...

I doubt you will reply because you'd have to deny them...
 
Re: Palin.

The problem I have with some conservatives is that they can NEVER admit some of their beliefs are OUT of touch with reality.
Reality is in the eyes of the beholder...

The San Francisco version of liberalism is considered out of touch as well by many. Across many parts of this country conservative views are considered the norm.
 
Re: Palin.

So now Im a sexist and you didn't answer any of the points that were made...

How convenient...

And I'm shocked you would want a child not being taught anything about SEX ED...:blink:

I never said I wouldn't want a child being taught anything about sex ed. If I was someone's mom I would certainly take on the responsibility of teaching my children about sex and not pawn that duty off on the government or schools.

Lets say I am a sexist so we can move on, but my Family and Friends know me so much better and they'd laugh at this claim...

The problem I have with some conservatives is that they can NEVER admit some of their beliefs are OUT of touch with reality, so the best way around it is to attack me and say I am a SEXIST..

I never said you were sexist, I said the statement that you made was. Stick with what I write and this little debate will be simpler to keep up with, making stuff up that I didn't say adds little. Your statement was in point of fact sexist as you stated that a child will receive better care from a mom than a dad. That is sexist regardless of the spin you want to put on it and as far as being out of touch with reality, that is about as far out as you can get.

Now stick with the other points I made and tell me your position on them please...

I doubt you will reply because you'd have to deny them...

I have replied, I hope you didn't lose a ton of money on that, although, if you did, you'll be in a better tax bracket if Obama is elected ;)
 
Re: Palin.

I never said I wouldn't want a child being taught anything about sex ed. If I was someone's mom I would certainly take on the responsibility of teaching my children about sex and not pawn that duty off on the government or schools.



I never said you were sexist, I said the statement that you made was. Stick with what I write and this little debate will be simpler to keep up with, making stuff up that I didn't say adds little. Your statement was in point of fact sexist as you stated that a child will receive better care from a mom than a dad. That is sexist regardless of the spin you want to put on it and as far as being out of touch with reality, that is about as far out as you can get.



I have replied, I hope you didn't lose a ton of money on that, although, if you did, you'll be in a better tax bracket if Obama is elected ;)


You did not reply to this...:rolleyes:

Palin is GLUED to the RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS who claim:

1: CREATIONISM must be taught in School along side EVOLUTION...

3: There is no such thing as GLOBAL WARMING...

4: Palin LIED once again last night when she claimed she was against the BRIDGE TO NOWHERE...

Your avoiding these issues like a Politician because you CANNOT possibly DEFEND her on them...

That's painfully obvious, LOLOLOL...

Your thoughts? oij213490
 
Re: Palin.

You did not reply to this...:rolleyes:

Palin is GLUED to the RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS who claim:

1: CREATIONISM must be taught in School along side EVOLUTION...

From The Associated Press
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) ? As a candidate for governor, Sarah Palin called for teaching creationism alongside evolution in public schools. But after Alaska voters elected her, Palin, now Republican John McCain's presidential running mate, kept her campaign pledge to not push the idea in the schools.
As for her personal views on evolution, Palin has said, "I believe we have a creator." But she has not made clear whether her belief also allowed her to accept the theory of evolution as fact.
"I'm not going to pretend I know how all this came to be," she has been quoted as saying.
McCain said during a debate last year that he believed in evolution when it came to the origin of life.
When asked during a televised debate in 2006 about evolution and creationism, Palin said, according to the Anchorage Daily News: "Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."
In a subsequent interview with the Daily News, Palin said discussion of alternative views on the origins of life should be allowed in Alaska classrooms. "I don't think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn't have to be part of the curriculum," she said.
"It's OK to let kids know that there are theories out there. They gain information just by being in a discussion."

3: There is no such thing as GLOBAL WARMING...

From The Associated Press
In her 20 months as governor, Palin has questioned the conclusions of federal marine scientists who say the Cook Inlet beluga whale needs protection under the federal Endangered Species Act.
She has defended Alaska's right to shoot down wolves from the air to boost caribou and moose herds for hunters, and ? contrary to a view held by McCain ? is not convinced that global warming is the result of human activity.
While acknowledging the climate is changing, Palin expresses doubt as to whether emissions from human activities are causing it. McCain, on the other hand, supports legislation to reduce heat-trapping pollutants, primarily from the burning of oil and coal.


4: Palin LIED once again last night when she claimed she was against the BRIDGE TO NOWHERE...
From newsminer.com
That is not how Palin described her position on the Gravina Island bridge when she ran for governor in 2006.
On Oct. 22, 2006, the Anchorage Daily News asked Palin and the other candidates, ?Would you continue state funding for the proposed Knik Arm and Gravina Island bridges??
Her response: ?Yes. I would like to see Alaska?s infrastructure projects built sooner rather than later."

Your avoiding these issues like a Politician because you CANNOT possibly DEFEND her on them...

That's painfully obvious, LOLOLOL...

Your thoughts? oij213490

1. I'm not avoiding issues - I happen to be at work and in between debating with you, I do need to get some work done.

2. I didn't need to express my thought or defend her, the Associated Press was kind enough to do that for me.

3. What's actually "painfully obvious" is that you lack any objectivity in this election. Seemingly, having completely made up your mind on the candidates, your role now is to simply trash the other side. Be careful on that strategy, as "your side" has MANY ways to be trashed as well. These are politicians we speak of here - their closets are always full.
 
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