The books might just get a real fukin today

Patrick McIrish

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Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Yep, this thing lands it could get ugly. Even uglier than it's going to be, some of us already believe there's going to be some post SuperBowl ugliness to go around. Hope I'm wrong.
 
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

They will be fine. And the ones in Vegas will have any money lost brought right back to them at the craps tables tonight.
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

we had this chat & you ain't shittting hoss

27-20 would HURT

we wouldn't close / but would damn sure CRY about it for 3 1/2 Months

andddddddddddddddd

you'll be first "MF" I call saying can you believe this SHIT

27-20 PITT = No Bueno

21-17 PITT = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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How good is this Black Kid (Stewart) @ Motorcross, where can I bet in this Kid (wow)
 
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

They will be fine. And the ones in Vegas will have any money lost brought right back to them at the craps tables tonight.


I am talking online books. (including advertisers here at EOG)
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

27-20 & i'll be on Expedia seeking 1-way Ticket Jamaica

U coming Willy & VD ??????

I'll have about $112 left in BR if 27-20 Pitt / first rd drinks on me
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Yep, here's to a 27-20 Steeler win! LOL, just kidding BFC. Trust me, I've been on the wrong end of games landing for a lot of years, I never got used to it. Fortunately there was no Superbowls involved.
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Top tier books would be OK...but if you book and are afraid of a number, then you are not much of a bookmaker...there are still props, ML, and other bets to the game...Books want you to bet high and bet often....
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

PAT

I recall GB falling on # and I BITCHED for 6--months

It Hurts / However, if you as "BOOK" allow 1-bad beat to close you, then your Money Mgmt is simply nopt very Goood / Period

Be like guy winning 10-Teamer AND busting you
 
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Any book worried about losing money on one game should not even be open in the first place.
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Top tier books would be OK...but if you book and are afraid of a number, then you are not much of a bookmaker...there are still props, ML, and other bets to the game...Books want you to bet high and bet often....


EXACTLY & quite frankly

if you are MO down in Boise Idaho & you allow a 27-20 Steeler win to get all the cash you have made in AUG SEPT OCT NOV DEC JAN

Then as VD suggests, you BOOKMAKING skills aren't what they need to be

THAT SAID, please please please NO 27-20 Pitt Victory :cheers
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

27-20 & i'll be on Expedia seeking 1-way Ticket Jamaica

U coming Willy & VD ??????

I'll have about $112 left in BR if 27-20 Pitt / first rd drinks on me

If it falls, it falls...besides, I will be hanging around to collect on the over...:+excited-
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

BFC - believe me I'm on your side but we both know that's not the real world. Dime store bookies open without being properly funded and with a nose candy habit to boot, trust me I've seen it all before. Of course nothing is going to hurt the big clearinghouse type of joints but I guarantee you that there are some books sweating this game like never before.

It's sort of like a reality show elimination. You pack your bags in case you get eliminated, if not you return to the mansion. In this case it's airport bags being packed, the game hits and they are on the first flight out of town never to return. Unfortunately I'm not kidding. Anyway here's to a Cardinal 16-3 win. :)
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

VD

if 27-20

and you read Gringo jumped off top of Building

Don't sweat it only 25% chance that it's me Pard
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

BFC - believe me I'm on your side but we both know that's not the real world. Dime store bookies open without being properly funded and with a nose candy habit to boot, trust me I've seen it all before. Of course nothing is going to hurt the big clearinghouse type of joints but I guarantee you that there are some books sweating this game like never before.

It's sort of like a reality show elimination. You pack your bags in case you get eliminated, if not you return to the mansion. In this case it's airport bags being packed, the game hits and they are on the first flight out of town never to return. Unfortunately I'm not kidding. Anyway here's to a Cardinal 16-3 win. :)


I hear ya

what helps us Tremendously is great Portion of what we do = Price Per Head Packages/sheets so on High % of wagers we have ZERO Risk . . . . in this business Zero risk = Goood

Enjoy the games KICKOFF 6:22:59 my guess
 

pioneer

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Let the Superbowl land 6 or 7 and let the total land 47 and you will see some books close shop.


Agree with Pitt winning by 7 and the total of 47, but why would Pitt winning by 6 be any different than any other outcome?
 
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Agree with Pitt winning by 7 and the total of 47, but why would Pitt winning by 6 be any different than any other outcome?

Most Pitt tickets are @ -6 -115 to -120

All AZ tickets are +7 -110 to -120
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

It is really tough to book one game and expect to win big...you need to beat one side of the teasers on the game and total...but with props and volume you can win, especially if you use the ML to your advantage....and remember, juice is a wonderful thing....good luck to everyone, may all your televisions survive....
 

pioneer

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Most Pitt tickets are @ -6 -115 to -120

All AZ tickets are +7 -110 to -120

Well, that's some bad bookmaking then, and they more than deserve to go out of business. But don't fret, bad books/bookies, maybe our beloved Congress will bail you out too!
 

OMNIVOROUS FROG

EOG Master
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

It is really tough to book one game and expect to win big...you need to beat one side of the teasers on the game and total...but with props and volume you can win, especially if you use the ML to your advantage....and remember, juice is a wonderful thing....good luck to everyone, may all your televisions survive....


The first thing I ask, what's the vig on that bet, whats the juice. Sadly I almost never get a response.


Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Well, that's some bad bookmaking then, and they more than deserve to go out of business. But don't fret, bad books/bookies, maybe our beloved Congress will bail you out too!


Pioneer, there is nothng WE can do about it people buy points


VD is correct though we have so many other opportunities/Juice Built into 1st 2nd 3rd & 4th Qtr, who scores 1st, yada yada yada yada

In my opinion is boils down to "VOLUME" you "write" enough Tickets you'll be just fine . . . . . but as far as what OSU described there is really no way to avoid this type "action" we just need to dosge the PITT by Exactly 7 number
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Well, that's some bad bookmaking then, and they more than deserve to go out of business. But don't fret, bad books/bookies, maybe our beloved Congress will bail you out too!

Nothing you can do about punters buying half points...how do you call that bad bookmaking? There are hundreds of players buying more than a full point also....
 

ArchieBunker

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Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

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</TD><TD class=alt1 id=td_post_1928253 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #2b295e 1px solid"> Re: The books might just get a real fukin today
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Most Pitt tickets are @ -6 -115 to -120

All AZ tickets are +7 -110 to -120

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Well, that's some bad bookmaking then, and they more than deserve to go out of business. But don't fret, bad books/bookies, maybe our beloved Congress will bail you out too!
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Pioneer's still trying to act like he's got a clue about gambling.

Here's a deal for you Pioneer, you don't try to tell the bookies on this site how to run their business and they won't tell you how to swab a deck.
 

pioneer

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Nothing you can do about punters buying half points...how do you call that bad bookmaking? There are hundreds of players buying more than a full point also....

Now would you want to...essentially, you're getting 30 cents vig instead of the 20 cents vig of the standard -110/-110 line.

I call it bad bookmaking if you're giving Pitt -6 -115(which was the original post by OSU). I very seriously doubt that you could find more than a handful of those tickets here in Vegas. I went through the entire VegasInsider odds and never saw a Pitt -6 -110 line; the best I saw was Pitt -6.5 -110(which would equate to Pitt -6 -120, wouldn't it?)
 

pioneer

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Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

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</TD><TD class=alt1 id=td_post_1928253 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #2b295e 1px solid"> Re: The books might just get a real fukin today
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Most Pitt tickets are @ -6 -115 to -120

All AZ tickets are +7 -110 to -120

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Well, that's some bad bookmaking then, and they more than deserve to go out of business. But don't fret, bad books/bookies, maybe our beloved Congress will bail you out too!

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Pioneer's still trying to act like he's got a clue about gambling.

Here's a deal for you Pioneer, you don't try to tell the bookies on this site how to run their business and they won't tell you how to swab a deck.

Here's a deal for you, AB....stop stalking me unless you have something to add to my posts or this thread.

Please go ahead and show what posted that shows that I have no clue about gambling? It's not rocket science!
 

raycabino

Long Live Wilson!
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Well, that's some bad bookmaking then, and they more than deserve to go out of business. But don't fret, bad books/bookies, maybe our beloved Congress will bail you out too!
Not much the books can do as the players are buying it down from 6.5 to 6. Actually buying on to the 6 from 6.5 for 10 cents is a bad play to begin with. gl with your action today Pioneer.:cheers
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Relax Fellas

Leave all the drama threads for me (LOL)


all is gooood, everyone will be just fine, I'm just trying fine that Train That BW posted incase 27-20 PITT Victory (LOL)
 

pioneer

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Not much the books can do as the players are buying it down from 6.5 to 6. Actually buying on to the 6 from 6.5 for 10 cents is a bad play to begin with. gl with your action today Pioneer.

I agree that it's a bad play to buy on to the 6 from 6.5 for 10 cents, and that's why I don't think there will be that much action on Pitt-6, and therefore why I disagreed with OSU's conclusion that Pitt winning by 6 would be catastrophic for the books.

ps. thanks RayC, I'm only on the over 46.5
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

You might want to give Pitt -6 -115 if you are loaded on Arizona futures...not for much, but you would give it...I never saw 6-110 either....

There is so much wheeling and dealing going around, you would be amazed to see some of these numbers being given away...buying 1,2, and sometimes 3 points..(depends on the books)
 

raycabino

Long Live Wilson!
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

I agree that it's a bad play to buy on to the 6 from 6.5 for 10 cents, and that's why I don't think there will be that much action on Pitt-6, and therefore why I disagreed with OSU's conclusion that Pitt winning by 6 would be catastrophic for the books.

ps. thanks RayC, I'm only on the over 46.5
Well I'd be lying if I said I'll be rooting for you but we can both win money if it lands 47.:cheers
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

VD

we are sitting on people with AZ win it all @ 75-1 AND 30-1

OUCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

I agree that it's a bad play to buy on to the 6 from 6.5 for 10 cents, and that's why I don't think there will be that much action on Pitt-6, and therefore why I disagreed with OSU's conclusion that Pitt winning by 6 would be catastrophic for the books.

ps. thanks RayC, I'm only on the over 46.5

Pioneer, you forgot to put the equation of Pitt teasers at PK....tons of teasers out there at minus a half and pick...that is where the 6 factors in...
 
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

I agree that it's a bad play to buy on to the 6 from 6.5 for 10 cents, and that's why I don't think there will be that much action on Pitt-6, and therefore why I disagreed with OSU's conclusion that Pitt winning by 6 would be catastrophic for the books.

ps. thanks RayC, I'm only on the over 46.5

Many online bettors are able to find -105 on sides and totals vs the standard -110. I know many personally who have bought the hook to -6 -115.

Vegas only writes a very small fraction of the action that is bet on a daily basis.
 

pioneer

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Pioneer, you forgot to put the equation of Pitt teasers at PK....tons of teasers out there at minus a half and pick...that is where the 6 factors in...

True and good point, VD....but that is a minute fraction of the Vegas bet total and I still contend that the game landing on Pitt -6 will NOT be catastrophic for the Vegas books, as opposed to Pitt -7 and total 47.
And I am only referring to Vegas books as the offshores have essentially already been dead to me for about a year, since they can't seem to get their payment processor issues resolved.
 
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

True and good point, VD....but that is a minute fraction of the Vegas bet total and I still contend that the game landing on Pitt -6 will NOT be catastrophic for the Vegas books, as opposed to Pitt -7 and total 47.
And I am only referring to Vegas books as the offshores have essentially already been dead to me for about a year, since they can't seem to get their payment processor issues resolved.

There are more offshore books that begin with the letter "A" than there are in the entire state of Nevada.
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

NOt too mention the "Underground" stores that will take staggering amounts, That more than likely aren't reporting to the New Jersey/New York Gaming commission there annual accounting reports ..........
 

pioneer

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

There are more offshore books that begin with the letter "A" than there are in the entire state of Nevada.

That may be true but it's still irrelelvant to me since I don't give a damn about any of them(although I can see why you do since you don't live in Vegas and you bet online).

I am concerned about Vegas books not having a repeat of last year when they lost about $2.6 million out of a total bet of $92 million(I've heard that the Vegas total bet is only about 1-5% of the worldwide total counting offshores and local bookies). From Gaming Today last year...

"Casinos reported a loss of $2.6 million. That figure blows away the previous high for net loss on the big game from 1995. That year, $400,000 was lost on the San Francisco-San Diego game.

The bigger shock from this years game was the amount wagered on the event. Projections had as much as $100 million being bet on the game. The actual figure was $92.1 million. Last years game between the Indianapolis Colts and Chicago Bears actually received more bets, $93.1 million worth."

...You said in your initial post that if the game landed on 6 or 7 or the total landed on 47, that some "books" might fail and I am just pointing out that whereas I agree that a Pitt win by 7 or a total of 47 would be a loser for Vegas, a 6 would not.
 

betfirstclass

EOG Dedicated
Re: The books might just get a real fukin today

Pioneer

I can almost assure you if the game is ANYTHNG other than 6 OR 7 Vegas Books Win Money TODAY regardless

Yess 10000000000 Of $25 ML plays on AZ

But then for every 300 / $25 ML play you'll have $1500 ML Play on PITT


Bottom Line if doesn't FALL 6 or 7 VEGAS BOOKS WIN & WIN BIGGGGG
 
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