He is a HOF'er. Bank it.
Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
Interesting that you would say that after Warner had the far superior game....but I agree, they both make it into the Hall of Fame.
Interesting that you would say that after Warner had the far superior game....but I agree, they both make it into the Hall of Fame.
Mofoyou
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
All day!
Every Day!!
And (That Makes) twice on Sunday!! 12io4j2w90
All day!
Every Day!!
And (That Makes) twice on Sunday!! 12io4j2w90
OMNIVOROUS FROG
EOG Master
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
Already there with so many 4Q comebacks, and one of the best in SB history, two rings, Steelers pedigree. Bust is waiting first ballot if he wins one more.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
Already there with so many 4Q comebacks, and one of the best in SB history, two rings, Steelers pedigree. Bust is waiting first ballot if he wins one more.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
I didnt see the defense on the field when he hit Holmes for the game winning TD. 12io4j2w90
I didnt see the defense on the field when he hit Holmes for the game winning TD. 12io4j2w90
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
Is he as good as Jason Campbell?
Is he as good as Jason Campbell?
mofome
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
Maybe. If he was on the skins the skins wouldnt win 8 games. Thats a fact. Similar.
Maybe. If he was on the skins the skins wouldnt win 8 games. Thats a fact. Similar.
Tuckman
Uh Poster
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
campbell didnt have an int for like 12 games though
campbell didnt have an int for like 12 games though
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
I don't know about not a top 20. 2 rings, A bigtime money drive in the biggest game there is. Depends on your measurement criteria. But he has a lot of years left. He looked like the MVP to me.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
I don't know about not a top 20. 2 rings, A bigtime money drive in the biggest game there is. Depends on your measurement criteria. But he has a lot of years left. He looked like the MVP to me.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
mofome
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
Ben has what a 1:1 TD to INT ratio. Amazing player. The #1 D has nothing to do with anything, Ben won it all.
You're naive. You have been for some time.
Ben has what a 1:1 TD to INT ratio. Amazing player. The #1 D has nothing to do with anything, Ben won it all.
You're naive. You have been for some time.
Journeyman
EOG Master
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
He made two perfect passes when he could still losing the freakin Super Bowl inside the 10 , both balls were either TD's or out of bounds, perfect passes!....the guy is a winner, very much like John Elway, the way he gets it done.
Even when it was 1st and 20 and he was scrambling around for his life, you had the sense it was well above 50% he would at the very least get them in FG range...
God damn what a player. 12io4j2w90
He made two perfect passes when he could still losing the freakin Super Bowl inside the 10 , both balls were either TD's or out of bounds, perfect passes!....the guy is a winner, very much like John Elway, the way he gets it done.
Even when it was 1st and 20 and he was scrambling around for his life, you had the sense it was well above 50% he would at the very least get them in FG range...
God damn what a player. 12io4j2w90
mofome
Banned
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
His defense put him in a position to win. He didnt put his defense in a position to win. hes not close.
His defense put him in a position to win. He didnt put his defense in a position to win. hes not close.
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
That is the way I see it. :cheers
That is the way I see it. :cheers
Tuckman
Uh Poster
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
ben makes plays that NO other qb can make in the NFL....PERIOD. He won a superbowl with an absolute SHIT O-line and NO run all year.....oh and lets look at his skilled position players?......Did he have a Fitz or boldin or Moss or TO or Johnson or an LT or AP or a Gates ....no no and no and no. AMAZING what he has done with so little.
ben makes plays that NO other qb can make in the NFL....PERIOD. He won a superbowl with an absolute SHIT O-line and NO run all year.....oh and lets look at his skilled position players?......Did he have a Fitz or boldin or Moss or TO or Johnson or an LT or AP or a Gates ....no no and no and no. AMAZING what he has done with so little.
OMNIVOROUS FROG
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
His defense was on the sidelines during the game winning drive, and he overcame adversity with shitty early holding call. They had zero help from zebras on that money drive. Seemed like every pass he threw was on the mark. Very short list of NFL QB's with two or more rings.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
His defense was on the sidelines during the game winning drive, and he overcame adversity with shitty early holding call. They had zero help from zebras on that money drive. Seemed like every pass he threw was on the mark. Very short list of NFL QB's with two or more rings.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
mofome
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
People who give all this credit to Ben are so naive that its laughable. This is a guy who had the best defense in the NFL and had a qb rating outside of the top 20. His team wins a SB because they dont need a great QB to win and suddenly this guy is one of the best of all time. Hilarious to think that some people here are able to make money on this. I guess you dont really have to understand a lot about the sport to beat the number. Math guys win.
People who give all this credit to Ben are so naive that its laughable. This is a guy who had the best defense in the NFL and had a qb rating outside of the top 20. His team wins a SB because they dont need a great QB to win and suddenly this guy is one of the best of all time. Hilarious to think that some people here are able to make money on this. I guess you dont really have to understand a lot about the sport to beat the number. Math guys win.
mofome
Banned
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
17 TDs
15 INts
59% completion percentage
2.8% of his passes were picks
his rating was 24th
he went to the SB anyway. Just like last year when people thought eli was suddenly good. The difference here is that Ben is actually a very good player who had a bad season and got to the SB anyway. Eli is just a bad player.
17 TDs
15 INts
59% completion percentage
2.8% of his passes were picks
his rating was 24th
he went to the SB anyway. Just like last year when people thought eli was suddenly good. The difference here is that Ben is actually a very good player who had a bad season and got to the SB anyway. Eli is just a bad player.
OMNIVOROUS FROG
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
Laugh at me being naive. I don't have to laugh at you for your opinion even though I don't agree with it. Grow up and show the posters more respect.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
Laugh at me being naive. I don't have to laugh at you for your opinion even though I don't agree with it. Grow up and show the posters more respect.
Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
Mr. NBA
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
tony homo = ZERO superbowl wins and has had TEN times the line and skilled players and you want to talk overrated?:+textinb3
tony homo = ZERO superbowl wins and has had TEN times the line and skilled players and you want to talk overrated?:+textinb3
Journeyman
EOG Master
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
Can't believe people still wanna knock him after that performance...I don't even like him really but all he does is make plays, it's ridiculous some of the shit he comes up with.
Steelers are America's team now , Ben is a lock.
Can't believe people still wanna knock him after that performance...I don't even like him really but all he does is make plays, it's ridiculous some of the shit he comes up with.
Steelers are America's team now , Ben is a lock.
mofome
Banned
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
oh god, not this again. I cant have any POV at all. My bad dude.
:hangt
oh god, not this again. I cant have any POV at all. My bad dude.
:hangt
Mr. NBA
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
yeah and ben didnt get to the superbowl when he had a monster year the year before.....go figure.
yeah and ben didnt get to the superbowl when he had a monster year the year before.....go figure.
mofome
Banned
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
he is one of the best 5-7 qbs in the league today. No doubt. He had a bad year and he was in the Sb anyway. he didnt take his team anywhere.
he is one of the best 5-7 qbs in the league today. No doubt. He had a bad year and he was in the Sb anyway. he didnt take his team anywhere.
Journeyman
EOG Master
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
Every great QB had playmakers, it goes hand in hand.
I'm amazed at how he just wanders around with defenders flying around him, like it's nothing, his poise on the final drive was nothing short of remarkable, and Holmes has really come into his own.
I'm speechless at how good this Steelers team played this season, ALWAYS with an ANSWER, and Arizona played to a great finish, you had to feel for Warner and Co. they played their hearts out.
Every great QB had playmakers, it goes hand in hand.
I'm amazed at how he just wanders around with defenders flying around him, like it's nothing, his poise on the final drive was nothing short of remarkable, and Holmes has really come into his own.
I'm speechless at how good this Steelers team played this season, ALWAYS with an ANSWER, and Arizona played to a great finish, you had to feel for Warner and Co. they played their hearts out.
mofome
Banned
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
pitt wasnt in the top half of the league defensively. they lost.
pitt wasnt in the top half of the league defensively. they lost.
TonyMar
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Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
yep...
all day...
he got credited for a touchdown against seattle that he never scored...
they tried the same shit tonight...
and somehow failed.
he is an ox.
holmes made a great catch...on a ball that was badly thrown,
cheers to all 'zona ATS ticket holders.:+excited-
yep...
all day...
he got credited for a touchdown against seattle that he never scored...
they tried the same shit tonight...
and somehow failed.
he is an ox.
holmes made a great catch...on a ball that was badly thrown,
cheers to all 'zona ATS ticket holders.:+excited-
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
If Aikman is in the Hall then Big Ben should be a lock at the pace he is on
2 SBS
101 / 60 career tds - ints and 62% career completition
Aikman going in on the 1st go around was a joke based on looking at guys
like Cris Carter who cant get in
Aikman: 165 tds / 141 ints ... 61% career completion
I lost total respect for the HOF with his ass going in ASAP
If Aikman is in the Hall then Big Ben should be a lock at the pace he is on
2 SBS
101 / 60 career tds - ints and 62% career completition
Aikman going in on the 1st go around was a joke based on looking at guys
like Cris Carter who cant get in
Aikman: 165 tds / 141 ints ... 61% career completion
I lost total respect for the HOF with his ass going in ASAP
Journeyman
EOG Master
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
Obviously winning Super Bowl's and having the it factor (like Namath had) means something to those who put these players in... it's all very debatable, part of what makes it interesting to begin with.
There are less deserving players than Aikman in the HOF, the guy was a great deep ball passer though.....of course Dallas had everything working when Troy was there, otherwise he very well may have been Dan Pastorini.
Obviously winning Super Bowl's and having the it factor (like Namath had) means something to those who put these players in... it's all very debatable, part of what makes it interesting to begin with.
There are less deserving players than Aikman in the HOF, the guy was a great deep ball passer though.....of course Dallas had everything working when Troy was there, otherwise he very well may have been Dan Pastorini.
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: Canton can go ahead and get that bust of Big Ben cut
I've brought up Namath on more than a few occassions
Mr "I never had one season where I completed more than 53% of
my passes ...."
I've brought up Namath on more than a few occassions
Mr "I never had one season where I completed more than 53% of
my passes ...."