in the next few months?
Now would be prime time. We are on one leg now, why not just kick it out
Now would be prime time. We are on one leg now, why not just kick it out
How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
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Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Cheney must have something planned like he did on 9-11 the way his evil
ass is yapping
Cheney would love to see another PNAC attack on this country
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
Cheney must have something planned like he did on 9-11 the way his evil
ass is yapping
Cheney would love to see another PNAC attack on this country
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Are you fucking stupid? oh, wait.....
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Are you fucking stupid? oh, wait.....
cheapseats
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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They are laughing their asses off at the Western World, you can bet on that.
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They are laughing their asses off at the Western World, you can bet on that.
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Hell, it could be anything, even something minor would do the trick
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
Hell, it could be anything, even something minor would do the trick
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Bigbet:
ya actually believe the OFFICIAL govt story?
Thats funny:
OPERATION NORTHWOODS
GLIEWITZ
PNAC
Hitler used Gliewitz and Bush used 9-11 ... both false terror opps as this shit goes back to 70 AD
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
Bigbet:
ya actually believe the OFFICIAL govt story?
Thats funny:
OPERATION NORTHWOODS
GLIEWITZ
PNAC
Hitler used Gliewitz and Bush used 9-11 ... both false terror opps as this shit goes back to 70 AD
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Cheney always ran the show since 2000 when HE SELECTED HIMSELF TO BE
VP
Cheney needs a "hit" so he can use FOX NEWS to "remind" folks how "strong of a defender" Bush was
Cheney yapping scares the shit out of me ....
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
Cheney always ran the show since 2000 when HE SELECTED HIMSELF TO BE
VP
Cheney needs a "hit" so he can use FOX NEWS to "remind" folks how "strong of a defender" Bush was
Cheney yapping scares the shit out of me ....
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
:fireext
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
:fireext
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Wow ....
I thought you were a tad bit deeper of thinker than that
Carry on as Karl Rove loves folks like you ....
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
Wow ....
I thought you were a tad bit deeper of thinker than that
Carry on as Karl Rove loves folks like you ....
The Prophet
EOG Dedicated
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Isn?t ?operation bail-out? a terrorist attack on Americans??
op:
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Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
Isn?t ?operation bail-out? a terrorist attack on Americans??
op:.
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Economically speaking it would actually stimulate more jobs most likely. Don't want to give them any ideas though.
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
Economically speaking it would actually stimulate more jobs most likely. Don't want to give them any ideas though.
Munchkin Man
EOG Dedicated
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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To Doc Mercer:
The Munchkin Man feels deeply saddened by how much you have allowed your mind to waste away and rot to your chronic use of pot.
Your delusions are out of control.
The Munchkin Man hopes you get some help.
All The Best
Munchkin Man
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To Doc Mercer:
The Munchkin Man feels deeply saddened by how much you have allowed your mind to waste away and rot to your chronic use of pot.
Your delusions are out of control.
The Munchkin Man hopes you get some help.
All The Best
Munchkin Man
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Delsusional?
Hmmmm .... Gliewitz really didn't happen MM?
Hmmmmm .... Operation Northwoods is "just rumors"
Hmmmm ........ PNAC really is just a nice group of concerned Americans?
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Delsusional?
Hmmmm .... Gliewitz really didn't happen MM?
Hmmmmm .... Operation Northwoods is "just rumors"
Hmmmm ........ PNAC really is just a nice group of concerned Americans?
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Texasfan ....
You define the SHEEP BASE that is clueless and runs to FOX NEWS because
"honey ... Sean is a great American .."
I see Joe the Plumber rambling and wonder if he is your younger or older
brother
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Texasfan ....
You define the SHEEP BASE that is clueless and runs to FOX NEWS because
"honey ... Sean is a great American .."
I see Joe the Plumber rambling and wonder if he is your younger or older
brother
Bucsfan67
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Doc, if u ACTUALLY believe that George Bush planned the attacks on 9-11, on his own country, and believe that a country would do that, and all the people that had to go along with it, and you are STILL LIVING here, then that would make u stupid....
I dont care how "democratic" or "republican" you are, to say something like that, is just absurd, and makes everything else you say less believable as well...it takes away any credibility you have.......argue the valid mistakes he made, and dont make up conspiracies...it makes your argument alot more plausible..
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
Doc, if u ACTUALLY believe that George Bush planned the attacks on 9-11, on his own country, and believe that a country would do that, and all the people that had to go along with it, and you are STILL LIVING here, then that would make u stupid....
I dont care how "democratic" or "republican" you are, to say something like that, is just absurd, and makes everything else you say less believable as well...it takes away any credibility you have.......argue the valid mistakes he made, and dont make up conspiracies...it makes your argument alot more plausible..
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
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Bucs:
Cheney was the MasterMind behind 9-11
Wolfowitz drew up the PNAC gameplan starting in 93
Its not hard to follow the bouncing ball as FALSE TERROR OPPS go back to
70AD and Hitler used Gliewitz to justify attacking Poland
Dick Cheney commanded NORAD
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Bucs:
Cheney was the MasterMind behind 9-11
Wolfowitz drew up the PNAC gameplan starting in 93
Its not hard to follow the bouncing ball as FALSE TERROR OPPS go back to
70AD and Hitler used Gliewitz to justify attacking Poland
Dick Cheney commanded NORAD
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scrimmage
What you contemplate you imitate
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Doc;
Cheney's a practical guy,its not about "love",to me it feels as though he convinces himself that the evil he puts into motion is patriotic,and ultimately good for America.
As you point out,once the dots are connected,a different picture from what the government issues emerges.
Muchkin Man;
If you were realistic you'd know,there isn't,and never was a nostalgic America of yesteryear,it exists only in your mind,and that it's a delusion too.
Doc at his best sees things outside the box,and doesn't need "help",but many people do need help to break through to broader understanding.
Bucsfan;
Your arguement doesn't hold water.Not agreeing with the "official" conspiracy story,doesn't mean giving up,turning tail,and leaving the country.It's not stupidity,but cowardice,to accept something one truly doesn't believe.
9/11 truth is much more complex than saying George Bush planned the attacks,that is absurd,he probably wasn't even in the loop at all.Bush's mistakes were the hand is quicker than the eye diversion from the real conspiracy.
BTW,do you accept the 9/11 Commissions findings in whole,or part?
Cheney's a practical guy,its not about "love",to me it feels as though he convinces himself that the evil he puts into motion is patriotic,and ultimately good for America.
As you point out,once the dots are connected,a different picture from what the government issues emerges.
Muchkin Man;
If you were realistic you'd know,there isn't,and never was a nostalgic America of yesteryear,it exists only in your mind,and that it's a delusion too.
Doc at his best sees things outside the box,and doesn't need "help",but many people do need help to break through to broader understanding.
Bucsfan;
Your arguement doesn't hold water.Not agreeing with the "official" conspiracy story,doesn't mean giving up,turning tail,and leaving the country.It's not stupidity,but cowardice,to accept something one truly doesn't believe.
9/11 truth is much more complex than saying George Bush planned the attacks,that is absurd,he probably wasn't even in the loop at all.Bush's mistakes were the hand is quicker than the eye diversion from the real conspiracy.
BTW,do you accept the 9/11 Commissions findings in whole,or part?
MIKEH75
EOG Dedicated
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
what is cheney yapping about these days?
i do believe if we had another 9/11 the next few months it could be very bad due to the country already in bad shape.
even VP joe biden said he thinks obama will be tested.....that worries me.
what is cheney yapping about these days?
i do believe if we had another 9/11 the next few months it could be very bad due to the country already in bad shape.
even VP joe biden said he thinks obama will be tested.....that worries me.
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Cheney is yapping about the mistake of closing Gitmo and his usual shit that will have posters like Munchkin Man, PO, Texasfan and others at Home Depot
tonite buying duct tape
If Cheney doesnt end up in hell then that place sure doesn't exsist
Cheney is yapping about the mistake of closing Gitmo and his usual shit that will have posters like Munchkin Man, PO, Texasfan and others at Home Depot
tonite buying duct tape
If Cheney doesnt end up in hell then that place sure doesn't exsist
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Scrimmage:
Love it ... the 9-11 Report .... they made William Rodriguez do his testimony in private and did not include it in the report itself
yeah ... 19 Arabs who couldn't fly Crop Dusters were able to penetrate the most secure air space in the world and just because 85 tapes were grabbed on the morning of 9-11 and the only one ever released shows no jet hitting the Pentagon is no reason to question our govt ... I mean ... think about it .. a 60 ton commercial airline jet could skid across the front lawn of the Pentagon and leave no damage to the grass and completely dissolve on impact
MY GOD ...... ONE BELIEVES THAT SHIT AND ONE PROBABLY AT AGE 30 SITS BY THE FIREPLACE ON CHRISTMAS EVE WITH MILK AND COOKIES WAITING FOR A GUY FAT ENOUGH TO PASS FOR RUSH LIMPBAUGH
Scrimmage:
Love it ... the 9-11 Report .... they made William Rodriguez do his testimony in private and did not include it in the report itself
yeah ... 19 Arabs who couldn't fly Crop Dusters were able to penetrate the most secure air space in the world and just because 85 tapes were grabbed on the morning of 9-11 and the only one ever released shows no jet hitting the Pentagon is no reason to question our govt ... I mean ... think about it .. a 60 ton commercial airline jet could skid across the front lawn of the Pentagon and leave no damage to the grass and completely dissolve on impact
MY GOD ...... ONE BELIEVES THAT SHIT AND ONE PROBABLY AT AGE 30 SITS BY THE FIREPLACE ON CHRISTMAS EVE WITH MILK AND COOKIES WAITING FOR A GUY FAT ENOUGH TO PASS FOR RUSH LIMPBAUGH
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I was working for Goldman Sachs at the time and I lost friends and colleagues that day. You have no idea what that was like.
For you to disgrace their memories with your ridiculous political bullshit show your true colors. You can claim to b a patriot nut you're really a piece of garbage.
This is my last post a EOG, as I would neve be art of any club that would hve you as a member. You make me sick.
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terroist attack...
I was working for Goldman Sachs at the time and I lost friends and colleagues that day. You have no idea what that was like.
For you to disgrace their memories with your ridiculous political bullshit show your true colors. You can claim to b a patriot nut you're really a piece of garbage.
This is my last post a EOG, as I would neve be art of any club that would hve you as a member. You make me sick.
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
save the Patriotic Bullshit act
Operation Northwoods was desiged by our govt in the early 60s and if
you dont think govts are willing to sacrifice citizens in the name of war
then you obviously dont know much about history
Wake the hell up ... 9-11 was an inside job and the PNAC needed their
Pearl Harbor and why do ya think Bush showed no real sorrow about
9-11??
My God .... if you are so pissed then folks like you must love Coulter who
mocked the widows of 9-11 and called all New Yorkers gutless to fight
terrorists .... and in particular you should be pissed off at a govt who
fought against all investigations into 9-11
Sorry for your loss .... sorry you don't understand history
By the way: where were our fighter jets at that AM??
save the Patriotic Bullshit act
Operation Northwoods was desiged by our govt in the early 60s and if
you dont think govts are willing to sacrifice citizens in the name of war
then you obviously dont know much about history
Wake the hell up ... 9-11 was an inside job and the PNAC needed their
Pearl Harbor and why do ya think Bush showed no real sorrow about
9-11??
My God .... if you are so pissed then folks like you must love Coulter who
mocked the widows of 9-11 and called all New Yorkers gutless to fight
terrorists .... and in particular you should be pissed off at a govt who
fought against all investigations into 9-11
Sorry for your loss .... sorry you don't understand history
By the way: where were our fighter jets at that AM??
scrimmage
What you contemplate you imitate
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
PalmTree;
"What that was like",as painful as it was,has no bearing on how it happened.
The victims,and families of 9/11 have unfortunately been used,IMO,to further a political agenda.It might be comforting to cherish their memories in an American mythology,but whether that could be considered "truth" is very debateable.
Running off,and hiding from what?Dig deeper instead...
Doc;
If you havetrouble here for speaking your mind,you've gained my repect for being honest.
It's hard for many to understand that a government sometimes has to do what's necessary to further their policy,and interests in the global competition of nations.Some of us disagree with the direction the US chose to go in.
"What that was like",as painful as it was,has no bearing on how it happened.
The victims,and families of 9/11 have unfortunately been used,IMO,to further a political agenda.It might be comforting to cherish their memories in an American mythology,but whether that could be considered "truth" is very debateable.
Running off,and hiding from what?Dig deeper instead...
Doc;
If you havetrouble here for speaking your mind,you've gained my repect for being honest.
It's hard for many to understand that a government sometimes has to do what's necessary to further their policy,and interests in the global competition of nations.Some of us disagree with the direction the US chose to go in.
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Scrimmage: FALSE TERROR OPPS go back to 70 AD
Hitler had German troops dressed in Polish uniforms attack the radio station at Gliewitz, then lied to the Germans, telling them Poland had invaded, and marched Germany off into World War Two
Scrimmage: FALSE TERROR OPPS go back to 70 AD
<center><table border="0" cellpadding="7" width="630"> <tbody> <tr> <td>In 70 BC Rome was still a Republic, which placed very strict limits on what Rulers could do, and more importantly NOT do. But Crassus had no intentions of enduring such limits to his personal power, and contrived a plan.
Crassus seized upon the slave revolt led by Spartacus in order to strike terror into the hearts of Rome, whose garrison Spartacus had already defeated in battle. But Spartacus had no intention of marching on Rome itself, a move he knew to be suicidal. Spartacus and his band wanted nothing to do with the Roman empire and had planned from the start merely to loot enough money from their former owners in the Italian countryside to hire a mercenary fleet in which to sail to freedom.
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Crassus seized upon the slave revolt led by Spartacus in order to strike terror into the hearts of Rome, whose garrison Spartacus had already defeated in battle. But Spartacus had no intention of marching on Rome itself, a move he knew to be suicidal. Spartacus and his band wanted nothing to do with the Roman empire and had planned from the start merely to loot enough money from their former owners in the Italian countryside to hire a mercenary fleet in which to sail to freedom.
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<center> <table border="0" cellpadding="7" width="630"> <tbody> <tr> <td>Sailing away was the last thing Crassus wanted Spartacus to do. He needed a convenient enemy with which to terrorize Rome itself for his personal political gain. So Crassus bribed the mercenary fleet to sail without Spartacus, then positioned two Roman legions in such a way that Spartacus had no choice but to march on Rome. Terrified of the impending arrival of the much-feared army of gladiators, Rome declared Crassus Praetor. Crassus then crushed Spartacus' army and even though Pompey took the credit, Crassus was elected Consul of Rome the following year.
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<center> <table border="0" cellpadding="7" width="630"> <tbody> <tr> <td>With this maneuver, the Romans surrendered their Republican form of government. Soon would follow the first Triumvirate, consisting of Crassus, Pompeii, and Julius Caesar, followed by the reign of the god-like Emperors of Rome.
The Romans were hoaxed into surrendering their Republic, and accepting the rule of Emperors
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Hitler had German troops dressed in Polish uniforms attack the radio station at Gliewitz, then lied to the Germans, telling them Poland had invaded, and marched Germany off into World War Two
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Scrimmage:
let us not forget MARVIN BUSH ...
Marvin P. Bush, the president?s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served.
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."
"when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter]
A heightened WTC security alert was lifted on 9/6/2001...
...there was a power down in WTC 2 the weekend before 9/11...
On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]
Scrimmage:
let us not forget MARVIN BUSH ...
Marvin P. Bush, the president?s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served.
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."
"when you [a company] have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer." [American Reporter]
A heightened WTC security alert was lifted on 9/6/2001...
<center><table style="border-collapse: collapse;" border="1" bordercolor="#111111" cellpadding="7" cellspacing="0" width="600"> <tbody><tr> <td>The World Trade Center was destroyed just days after a heightened security alert was lifted at the landmark 110-story towers, security personnel said yesterday [September 11]. Daria Coard, 37, a guard at Tower One, said the security detail had been working 12-hour shifts for the past two weeks because of numerous phone threats. But on Thursday [September 6], bomb-sniffing dogs were abruptly removed. [NY Newsday]</td></tr></tbody></table> </center>
...there was a power down in WTC 2 the weekend before 9/11...
On the weekend of 9/8, 9/9 there was a 'power down' condition in WTC tower 2, the south tower. This power down condition meant there was no electrical supply for approx 36 hrs from floor 50 up... "Of course without power there were no security cameras, no security locks on doors and many, many 'engineers' coming in and out of the tower." [WingTV]
scrimmage
What you contemplate you imitate
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Doc;
Going on 8 years after the event,makes it harder to convince Americans who believe the official 9/11 mythology that it didn't happen the way they were conditioned to believe it did.
As PalmTree showed when presented with a disturbing opinion which didn't jibe with his,it's easier to retreat then have to defend a tenuous position.
Jeremy Glick's someone who couldn't accept a false reality,and confronted Fox propagandist Bill O'Reilly about it:
Outfoxed: Bill O'Reilly attacks 9/11 victim's son
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY
Going on 8 years after the event,makes it harder to convince Americans who believe the official 9/11 mythology that it didn't happen the way they were conditioned to believe it did.
As PalmTree showed when presented with a disturbing opinion which didn't jibe with his,it's easier to retreat then have to defend a tenuous position.
Jeremy Glick's someone who couldn't accept a false reality,and confronted Fox propagandist Bill O'Reilly about it:
Outfoxed: Bill O'Reilly attacks 9/11 victim's son
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Scrimmage:
obviously ya saw when Donahue wouldn't back down from O'Reilly
That was great !!!
9-11 and 11-22: 2 days in which the USA govt changed history
Scrimmage:
obviously ya saw when Donahue wouldn't back down from O'Reilly
That was great !!!
9-11 and 11-22: 2 days in which the USA govt changed history
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Really?
is that right ... go down your homework and understand the PNAC agenda
that Wolfowitz outlined starting in 93
On May 8, 2001 - four months prior to 9/11 - the president placed Dick Cheney in charge of "[A]ll federal programs dealing with weapons of mass destruction consequence management within the Departments of Defense, Health and Human Services, Justice, and Energy, the Environmental Protection Agency, and other federal agencies?" This included all "training and planning" which needed to be "seamlessly integrated, harmonious and comprehensive" in order to "maximize effectiveness." This mandate created the Office of National Preparedness in FEMA, overseen by Dick Cheney. 15 Dick Cheney was placed directly in charge of managing the seamless integration of all training exercises throughout the entire federal government and all military agencies. On 9/11 Cheney oversaw multiple war games and terror drills, including several exercises of NORAD, the Air Force agency whose mandate is to "watch the sky."
The evening before September 11th, 2001, the National Security Agency intercepted a communication between Khalid Shaikh Muhammad and the alleged ringleader of the 9/11 attacks, Mohammed Atta. The communication stated, "The match is about to begin."
Were they "matching" their activities to the war games? Was the attack a rigged "match" between the defenders on one side, and the attackers with their accomplices on the other?
The Whitehouse was so infuriated when this communication leaked from the Senate Intelligence Committee that they threatened Senators with polygraphs and office searches for disclosing classified information. This leak struck a nerve within the Whitehouse.
We know multiple Air Force war games were running on the morning of 9/11, as documented extensively in the mainstream press. 16 What Crossing the Rubicon has documented conclusively is that there was a live-fly drill taking place on 9/11 titled Vigilant Warrior. Richard Clarke disclosed the name of this drill on page 4 of his book, but it was Major Don Arias of NORAD who confirmed the definition of the title "Warrior" to Mike Ruppert via email.
Warrior = JCS/HQ NORAD sponsored FTX, or field training exercise (live-fly).
That means that the Vigilant Warrior drill conducted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff involved at least one real commercial aircraft in the skies, intended to simulate exactly the kind of airliner hijack emergency presented on 9/11. Coincidence?
This was further supported by an April 18 2004 USA Today article titled, "NORAD had drills of jets as weapons." The report cited NORAD officials who confirmed live-fly drills were conducted using hijacked airliners originating from the continental United States used as weapons crashing into targets including the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The specific drill USA Today referred to was "planned in July [2001] and conducted later" - likely on 9/11 itself.
Remember, on 9/11 the Bush administration claimed it had "no idea" aircraft would be used as weapons. Then why were they drilling such scenarios before and during 9/11? The Whitehouse dodged this by saying it wasn't aware of these drills but that is a transparent lie. The drills took place in the Whitehouse!
Secret Service runs simulated attack field exercises - exactly what Vigilant Warrior was. This Joint Chiefs of Staff drill was likely being run through Secret Service lines of communication by a central command under Cheney's control.
Additional war games on 9/11 included Northern Vigilance, an exercise that pulled Air Force fighters from the east coast of the United States up into Canada and Alaska simulating an attack out of Russia. All of those fighters were rendered useless as the 9/11 plot unfolded - too far away to respond.
One of the components of this drill included "false blips" (radar injects simulating aircraft in flight) placed on FAA radar screens. 21 At one point FAA head Jane Garvey said they suspected up to 11 hijackings on 9/11. Was she saying they couldn't determine which were real, which were simulated, and which were live-fly military exercises?
Regardless, all of this rendered Air Force response on 9/11 useless.
In Air War Over America it is documented that General Arnold of NORAD didn't pull out of the war game titled Vigilant Guardian until reports of flight 93 being hijacked were coming in. That was at 9:16, a total of 54 minutes after it was known that flight 11 was a hijacking. 22 What took so long? Were there still "false blips" on FAA radar screens at this time?
There were likely false blips on screen even after 9:16. The Kean Commission's report introduced "phantom flight-11" as being reported by the FAA at 9:25 on 9/11. The FAA reported flight 11 was heading to Washington D.C. at that time when in fact it had already struck the World Trade Center. The Kean Commission's report stated they were "unable to locate the source of the mistaken FAA information."
"Phantom flight-11" was a false blip, but since the war games are classified, specific information on "false blips" and other details can't be reported.
Now imagine being an air traffic controller with both real planes and "false blips" simulating hijackings on your screens when suddenly there are real, multiple, hijackings. Where do you send the few Air Force fighters that you have? You can't guess wrong, you don't have enough assets for that. The FAA doesn't even make that decision, the military does. The Kean Commission managed to scapegoat the FAA in their report, but the Air Force itself confirmed the FAA did its job properly on 9/11 in Air War Over America.
There were more 9/11 war games including Northern Guardian, Northern Denial (recently confirmed by an Assistant Editor at Harper's magazine) and an unnamed National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) drill for a plane crashing into NRO headquarters at precisely the time of an actual crash in New York.
Another coincidence?
War games, terror drills and exercises are run by the military quite frequently. In this case, they mirrored the real attacks of 9/11 with such shocking congruence as to be beyond the realm of coincidence.
This is made clear when we consider the warnings that had flooded U.S. Intelligence prior to 9/11, indicating that terrorists were planning to hijack aircraft and crash them into American targets on the ground during the week of September 9th, 2001. 25 With that type of information, who in their right mind would then schedule war games that would leave New York and Washington D.C. completely undefended?
We've already shown that the man in charge of managing all such programs was Dick Cheney. Among the central decision-makers for the scheduling of so many simultaneous exercises would be Dick Cheney and Ralph Eberhart, head of NORAD.
It certainly was a perfect "match."
Dick Cheney commanded NORAD
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Really?
is that right ... go down your homework and understand the PNAC agenda
that Wolfowitz outlined starting in 93
On May 8, 2001 - four months prior to 9/11 - the president placed Dick Cheney in charge of "[A]ll federal programs dealing with weapons of mass destruction consequence management within the Departments of Defense, Health and Human Services, Justice, and Energy, the Environmental Protection Agency, and other federal agencies?" This included all "training and planning" which needed to be "seamlessly integrated, harmonious and comprehensive" in order to "maximize effectiveness." This mandate created the Office of National Preparedness in FEMA, overseen by Dick Cheney. 15 Dick Cheney was placed directly in charge of managing the seamless integration of all training exercises throughout the entire federal government and all military agencies. On 9/11 Cheney oversaw multiple war games and terror drills, including several exercises of NORAD, the Air Force agency whose mandate is to "watch the sky."
The evening before September 11th, 2001, the National Security Agency intercepted a communication between Khalid Shaikh Muhammad and the alleged ringleader of the 9/11 attacks, Mohammed Atta. The communication stated, "The match is about to begin."
Were they "matching" their activities to the war games? Was the attack a rigged "match" between the defenders on one side, and the attackers with their accomplices on the other?
The Whitehouse was so infuriated when this communication leaked from the Senate Intelligence Committee that they threatened Senators with polygraphs and office searches for disclosing classified information. This leak struck a nerve within the Whitehouse.
We know multiple Air Force war games were running on the morning of 9/11, as documented extensively in the mainstream press. 16 What Crossing the Rubicon has documented conclusively is that there was a live-fly drill taking place on 9/11 titled Vigilant Warrior. Richard Clarke disclosed the name of this drill on page 4 of his book, but it was Major Don Arias of NORAD who confirmed the definition of the title "Warrior" to Mike Ruppert via email.
Warrior = JCS/HQ NORAD sponsored FTX, or field training exercise (live-fly).
That means that the Vigilant Warrior drill conducted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff involved at least one real commercial aircraft in the skies, intended to simulate exactly the kind of airliner hijack emergency presented on 9/11. Coincidence?
This was further supported by an April 18 2004 USA Today article titled, "NORAD had drills of jets as weapons." The report cited NORAD officials who confirmed live-fly drills were conducted using hijacked airliners originating from the continental United States used as weapons crashing into targets including the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The specific drill USA Today referred to was "planned in July [2001] and conducted later" - likely on 9/11 itself.
Remember, on 9/11 the Bush administration claimed it had "no idea" aircraft would be used as weapons. Then why were they drilling such scenarios before and during 9/11? The Whitehouse dodged this by saying it wasn't aware of these drills but that is a transparent lie. The drills took place in the Whitehouse!
Secret Service runs simulated attack field exercises - exactly what Vigilant Warrior was. This Joint Chiefs of Staff drill was likely being run through Secret Service lines of communication by a central command under Cheney's control.
Additional war games on 9/11 included Northern Vigilance, an exercise that pulled Air Force fighters from the east coast of the United States up into Canada and Alaska simulating an attack out of Russia. All of those fighters were rendered useless as the 9/11 plot unfolded - too far away to respond.
One of the components of this drill included "false blips" (radar injects simulating aircraft in flight) placed on FAA radar screens. 21 At one point FAA head Jane Garvey said they suspected up to 11 hijackings on 9/11. Was she saying they couldn't determine which were real, which were simulated, and which were live-fly military exercises?
Regardless, all of this rendered Air Force response on 9/11 useless.
In Air War Over America it is documented that General Arnold of NORAD didn't pull out of the war game titled Vigilant Guardian until reports of flight 93 being hijacked were coming in. That was at 9:16, a total of 54 minutes after it was known that flight 11 was a hijacking. 22 What took so long? Were there still "false blips" on FAA radar screens at this time?
There were likely false blips on screen even after 9:16. The Kean Commission's report introduced "phantom flight-11" as being reported by the FAA at 9:25 on 9/11. The FAA reported flight 11 was heading to Washington D.C. at that time when in fact it had already struck the World Trade Center. The Kean Commission's report stated they were "unable to locate the source of the mistaken FAA information."
"Phantom flight-11" was a false blip, but since the war games are classified, specific information on "false blips" and other details can't be reported.
Now imagine being an air traffic controller with both real planes and "false blips" simulating hijackings on your screens when suddenly there are real, multiple, hijackings. Where do you send the few Air Force fighters that you have? You can't guess wrong, you don't have enough assets for that. The FAA doesn't even make that decision, the military does. The Kean Commission managed to scapegoat the FAA in their report, but the Air Force itself confirmed the FAA did its job properly on 9/11 in Air War Over America.
There were more 9/11 war games including Northern Guardian, Northern Denial (recently confirmed by an Assistant Editor at Harper's magazine) and an unnamed National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) drill for a plane crashing into NRO headquarters at precisely the time of an actual crash in New York.
Another coincidence?
War games, terror drills and exercises are run by the military quite frequently. In this case, they mirrored the real attacks of 9/11 with such shocking congruence as to be beyond the realm of coincidence.
This is made clear when we consider the warnings that had flooded U.S. Intelligence prior to 9/11, indicating that terrorists were planning to hijack aircraft and crash them into American targets on the ground during the week of September 9th, 2001. 25 With that type of information, who in their right mind would then schedule war games that would leave New York and Washington D.C. completely undefended?
We've already shown that the man in charge of managing all such programs was Dick Cheney. Among the central decision-makers for the scheduling of so many simultaneous exercises would be Dick Cheney and Ralph Eberhart, head of NORAD.
It certainly was a perfect "match."
Dick Cheney commanded NORAD
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Timely Hero
Jacoby Blows
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Doc you are fucking retarded. End of story. They still didn't have the majority agreeing on Iraq, and it was still a controversial situation, so why would they do it to go to war if they never needed approval anyway? You really are retarded I think. I bet Osama and Chaney are tight. HAHAHA
Doc you are fucking retarded. End of story. They still didn't have the majority agreeing on Iraq, and it was still a controversial situation, so why would they do it to go to war if they never needed approval anyway? You really are retarded I think. I bet Osama and Chaney are tight. HAHAHA
scrimmage
What you contemplate you imitate
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
benny;
What do you believe?
The 9/11 Commission version of events?;or something else?
Cheney being the "Mastermind",at least removed from,and with plausible deniability isn't far-fetched.
Do you know anything about the neo-cons philosophical underpinnings,or what the PNAC was all about?;who Paul Wolfowitz is?
Labeling someone "crazy",because you don't understand what's being discussed,and feel your comfort zone's threatened thereby?;or do you have some doubt,about the "official" story,and want to know more?
benny;
What do you believe?
The 9/11 Commission version of events?;or something else?
Cheney being the "Mastermind",at least removed from,and with plausible deniability isn't far-fetched.
Do you know anything about the neo-cons philosophical underpinnings,or what the PNAC was all about?;who Paul Wolfowitz is?
Labeling someone "crazy",because you don't understand what's being discussed,and feel your comfort zone's threatened thereby?;or do you have some doubt,about the "official" story,and want to know more?
Timely Hero
Jacoby Blows
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
You can go join Doc on the short bus. Have a safe trip.
You can go join Doc on the short bus. Have a safe trip.
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Timely:
simple question
where is the Commercial Airline Jet that supposedly hit the Pentagon?
Wake up ... our govt took out Kennedy and Operation Northwoods was created in the early 60s to do exactly what we say on 9-11
Where were our jets? Interesting how Payne Stewarts jet went off line and the Jets were scrambled ASAP
9-11 and SANTA CLAUS ..... both have a lot in common
Timely:
simple question
where is the Commercial Airline Jet that supposedly hit the Pentagon?
Wake up ... our govt took out Kennedy and Operation Northwoods was created in the early 60s to do exactly what we say on 9-11
Where were our jets? Interesting how Payne Stewarts jet went off line and the Jets were scrambled ASAP
9-11 and SANTA CLAUS ..... both have a lot in common
scrimmage
What you contemplate you imitate
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Nothing to add but that?
Curious how 9/11 Commission Report "official" version supporters rarely want to throw down,and engage in a debate.
Do you believe what these people tell you?
http://picasaweb.google.com/chucksheen/911TruthCards#5148093105189820802
http://media.portland.indymedia.org/images/2007/12/370124.jpg
Curious how 9/11 Commission Report "official" version supporters rarely want to throw down,and engage in a debate.
Do you believe what these people tell you?
http://picasaweb.google.com/chucksheen/911TruthCards#5148093105189820802
http://media.portland.indymedia.org/images/2007/12/370124.jpg
Doc Mercer
EOG Master
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Scrimmage:
Joe Contrarian monitors this site for John Ashcroft looking for "terrorist threats"
That picture might be your trip to one of them CHENEY FEMA "RELOCATION
CENTERS"
Scrimmage:
Joe Contrarian monitors this site for John Ashcroft looking for "terrorist threats"
That picture might be your trip to one of them CHENEY FEMA "RELOCATION
CENTERS"
Timely Hero
Jacoby Blows
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Funny how big a conspiracy of this size is, and no one has stepped forward. That's what's funny. Most people can't even keep a secret between 3 people anymore, none the less the magnitude you're talking about.
Funny how big a conspiracy of this size is, and no one has stepped forward. That's what's funny. Most people can't even keep a secret between 3 people anymore, none the less the magnitude you're talking about.
LobWedgePhil
EOG Addicted
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
Biggest conspiracy in the history of the world, yet not one person has stepped forward. Well, except Osama, but he probably doesn't exist right?
Biggest conspiracy in the history of the world, yet not one person has stepped forward. Well, except Osama, but he probably doesn't exist right?
scrimmage
What you contemplate you imitate
Re: How worse would it make things if we got hit with a terrorist attack...
You contradict yourself.
19 hijackers,masterminded by Osama bin Laden from a cave in Afghanistan,kept their secrets, and managed to pull off the biggest terrorist attack in history?
And the US Pentagon/military/intelligence complex which spends hundreds of billions a year didn't know anything about this?How naive are you?
The people behind this conspiracy wouldn't come forward that's how they got where they are.Security clearance,and targeting certain personality types who know how to keep their mouths shut assures that.
19 hijackers,masterminded by Osama bin Laden from a cave in Afghanistan,kept their secrets, and managed to pull off the biggest terrorist attack in history?
And the US Pentagon/military/intelligence complex which spends hundreds of billions a year didn't know anything about this?How naive are you?
The people behind this conspiracy wouldn't come forward that's how they got where they are.Security clearance,and targeting certain personality types who know how to keep their mouths shut assures that.