Iraq war ... ask the GOPers to explain the trillions spent on that disaster

Doc Mercer

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Ask them about the money wasted on that Bush bullshit venture

the SHEEP are good at going into what I call the "kill zone" as most of
em yap about "we freed the Iraqis ..."

REALLY? TELL ME ABOUT THE MAKEUPS OF SHIIAS and SUNNIS and KURDS
if ya need to watch them go silent very quickly
 

brucefan

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Re: Iraq war ... ask the GOPers to explain the trillions spent on that disaster

Shocking Media Moment: Bob Woodward Says Democrats Voted for Iraq War


By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
February 18, 2007 - 13:22 ET


A sickeningly common theme asserted by media members around the country is that Iraq is ?Bush?s war,? and that Democrats who voted for the resolution in October 2002 have no responsibility because they were supposedly misled by a president from a different political party.
Well, a fascinating event transpired on Sunday?s ?Chris Matthews Show? as one high-ranking media member ? the Washington Post?s Bob Woodward ? fervently refuted this disingenuous media myth. And, maybe more shocking, CBS?s Gloria Borger agreed with him.
The panel was discussing the recent nonbinding resolutions voted on in Congress, when Bob Woodward said something that few in the media would dare utter with cameras rolling:






One of the things that we forget as we?re caught in the heat of the current debate: this is a legal war. The Congress three to one in 2002 said, gave Bush the right to go to war. He decided to do it. So, you know what really amazes me is that Bush, and Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid don?t get together and say, ?We?ve got to come up with a bipartisan strategy and consensus on this.? We?re all in to a certain extent in this war. And we owe it to the troops.

Amazing. Matthews then asked: ?Do you think the Democrats are willing to be party to this war, or they?re trying to get disengaged from it??
Woodward shockingly responded: ?They are a party to this war. They voted for it.?
Borger then said something maybe equally astounding:
They don?t want ownership of this war, Chris. I mean, I think the Democrats are trying to have it both ways. If you definitely cut off funding, then you have ownership of what comes next.

Moments later, the following remarkable discussion ensued:
Woodward: If everyone?s thinking about politics and not the troops on the ground. Those people are our surrogates, and we owe them everything, and we can?t even reach political consensus in this country.
Matthews: But what happens when you have a country that is so divided if you just poll regular people about this war, so much against this war, but yet the commander-in-chief is for the war. How do you reach a consensus between a majority who don?t want the war, and a president who wants one? How do you do it?
Woodward: I think that people have to rise above politics and party here. And, think, I?ve talked to these people who have come back from Iraq, and in communication with some there, and they wonder: ?What the hell is going on in America? What? You know, we?re here, they sent us here. And we?re talking about cutting off funding.?

Extraordinary, Bob. Bravo!



?Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Iraq war ... ask the GOPers to explain the trillions spent on that disaster

They sure did ...based on what?


How Bush Cherry-Picked Intel to Wage Iraq War

Via NY Transfer News Collective * All the News that Doesn't Fit

AFP - FEb 10, 2006
http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/060210104328.p6gl8687.html

Bush waged Iraq war by "cherry-picking" intelligence: former CIA official

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A former CIA official who coordinated US intelligence on
the Middle East has accused the Bush administration of "cherry-picking"
intelligence on Iraq to justify a decision it had already reached to go to
war, The Washington Post reports.

The newspaper said Paul Pillar, who was the national intelligence officer
for the Near East and South Asia from 2000 to 2005, also accused the
administration of ignoring warnings that the country could easily fall into
violence and chaos after an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein.

"Official intelligence on Iraqi weapons programs was flawed, but even with
its flaws, it was not what led to the war," Pillar wrote in the upcoming
issue of the journal Foreign Affairs.

Instead, he asserted, the administration "went to war without requesting --
and evidently without being influenced by -- any strategic-level
intelligence assessments on any aspect of Iraq."

Pillar said mistakes made by US intelligence agencies in concluding that
Hussein's government possessed weapons of mass destruction did not drive the
administration's decision to invade, according to The Post.

"It has become clear that official intelligence was not relied on in making
even the most significant national security decisions, that intelligence was
misused publicly to justify decisions already made, that damaging ill will
developed between policymakers and intelligence officers, and that the
intelligence community's own work was politicized," Pillar wrote.

The paper said Pillar was an influential behind-the-scenes player and was
considered the agency's leading counterterrorism analyst.

By the end of his career, he was responsible for coordinating assessments on
Iraq from all 15 agencies in the intelligence community. He is now a
professor in security studies at Georgetown University.

In his article, he said he believes that the "politicization" of
intelligence on Iraq occurred "subtly" and in many forms, but almost never
resulted from a policymaker directly asking an analyst to reshape his or her
results, the report said.

Instead, Pillar describes a process in which the White House helped frame
intelligence results by repeatedly posing questions aimed at bolstering its
arguments about Iraq, The Post said.

The Bush administration, Pillar wrote, "repeatedly called on the
intelligence community to uncover more material that would contribute to the
case for war," including information on the "supposed connection" between
Hussein and Al-Qaeda, which analysts had discounted.
 

Doc Mercer

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush and his top aides publicly made 935 false statements about the security risk posed by Iraq in the two years following September 11, 2001, according to a study released Tuesday by two nonprofit journalism groups.


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<!-- /PURGE: /2008/POLITICS/01/23/bush.iraq/art.bush.march03.afp.gi.jpg --> <!--endclickprintexclude--> "In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003," reads an overview of the examination, conducted by the Center for Public Integrity and its affiliated group, the Fund for Independence in Journalism.


According to the study, Bush and seven top officials -- including Vice President Dick Cheney, former Secretary of State Colin Powell and then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice -- made 935 false statements about Iraq during those two years.


The study was based on a searchable database compiled of primary sources, such as official government transcripts and speeches, and secondary sources -- mainly quotes from major media organizations. See CNN viewers' reactions to the study ?
 

gopherbob

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Re: Iraq war ... ask the GOPers to explain the trillions spent on that disaster

trillions were spent ? i thought the war was paid for by iraqi oil revenues.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Iraq war ... ask the GOPers to explain the trillions spent on that disaster

Gopher:

Bush and Cheney had millions bet on the Gophers covering the 54.5 pts vs Ia

sorry America
 

nedrow

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Re: Iraq war ... ask the GOPers to explain the trillions spent on that disaster

how come the lier f/face doesnt ask question about 911
 

Doc Mercer

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Re: Iraq war ... ask the GOPers to explain the trillions spent on that disaster

We need Nicolas to resurface on this forum
 
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