How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

massacre

EOG Member
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Wasted a ton of money on him thinking he could repeat his winning ways...not.
 

Mammon

EOG Master
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

We should have spent the Money on Lowe
That being said Reds cant hit lefty and Harang taylor made for Phillies.
 

massacre

EOG Member
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Lowe would have been a nice addition.
 

roach23

Banned
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Who else are they gonna start?

Myers, Hamels, and the ineptitude of the Mets need to carry the Phillies to the playoffs this season.
 
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Myers, Hamels, and Blanton will all be fine... bullpen will come around as well...

They need Happ to improve and go get another big name before the deadline.
 

roach23

Banned
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Blanton has been almost as bad at Moyer.

The bullpen has been decent. Lidge has blown a few saves but its expected considering the streak he'd been on. Getting JC Romero back in a couple weeks will be huge for the Phillies pen.

It'll be interesting to see if Happ will do any better than Chan Ho as our 5th starter. I think Chan Ho goin back to a long reliever might be good for him.
 

mofome

Banned
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

the strike zones seem to be smaller this year, killing guys like moyer
 
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

GOING TODAY

7.42 ERA

Phillies are 0-4 in Moyers last 4 starts.
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Bastardo starts on Tuesday and the Phils will get another starter via the trade route...looking at Penny, Harang, and Peavy....will be very surprised if it isn't Penny..

Myers is probably out for the year and with Lidge hurting, it doesn't look good...
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

GOING TODAY

7.42 ERA

Phillies are 0-4 in Moyers last 4 starts.

but the fact they are playing a Double-A team today doesn't hurt. Moyer gets 250 today - number of wins NOT his age

Phils -1.5 and O10'
 

roach23

Banned
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Bastardo starts on Tuesday and the Phils will get another starter via the trade route...looking at Penny, Harang, and Peavy....will be very surprised if it isn't Penny..

Myers is probably out for the year and with Lidge hurting, it doesn't look good...

I doubt they go for Penny. Apparently the BoSox were asking for Jason Donald for Penny. Maybe if the asking price comes down. But no way they do taht deal straight up and send Donald packing for a guy who's about as good as Blanton at best. Plus Penny would get killed pitching in the Bank. I think they get Jason Marquis over Penny.

I'd rather have Bedard or Oswalt if possible. Though i'm not a fan of Bedard really. Guy seems like a pussy.

Dream scenario would be for them put together a deal for Halladay though Toronto would want an arm and a leg.
 

konck

EOG Veteran
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

How???? Are the other toilets they have any better hahahhahahhaa hurry guys get the Mets +115 to win the div at your local "bookmaker.com"
 

roach23

Banned
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Moyer with his 4th win after 6 strong innings with only 1 earned today.

:thumbsup
 

Apple

Banned
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

I doubt they go for Penny. Apparently the BoSox were asking for Jason Donald for Penny. Maybe if the asking price comes down. But no way they do taht deal straight up and send Donald packing for a guy who's about as good as Blanton at best. Plus Penny would get killed pitching in the Bank. I think they get Jason Marquis over Penny.

I'd rather have Bedard or Oswalt if possible. Though i'm not a fan of Bedard really. Guy seems like a pussy.

Dream scenario would be for them put together a deal for Halladay though Toronto would want an arm and a leg.



:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO That made me laugh :cheers
 

THE HITMAN

EOG Dedicated
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Guys.........in all fairness, it's still relatively early in the season. Myers is down, he will come in handy. He is playoff seasoned veteran who may be very valuable in sept/oct. He also owns the Marlins. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe not..............but see me at the end of the season.
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Mets are choke artists....they will fold like cheap suits....

More afraid of the Braves...
 

cassiusclay

EOG Master
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

was down at the park yesterday...no-one left until lidge threw his last pitch...seemed like everyone was waiting for something bad to happen. congrats mr moyer on #250.
 

cassiusclay

EOG Master
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

besides lowe and jurgens who are you counting on? are you counting on francour coming back? he's not jesus you know....
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Doesn't take a genuis to know that the Mutts will tank in September...just as they have done the last two years in a row...what will the excuse be this year?
 
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

http://www.citypaper.net/blogs/clog/2009/08/10/was-sundays-start-jamie-moyers-last/

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<SMALL class=clog_byline>Was Sunday?s start Jamie Moyer?s last?</SMALL>
<SMALL class=clog_byline>Monday, August 10th, 2009 at 12:15 pm </SMALL>
<SMALL class=clog_byline>posted by Brian Howard </SMALL>
<SMALL class=clog_byline>categories The Phightin Phils, The Sporting Life</SMALL>​
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Jamie Moyer, the Ancient Mariner of the Phillies rotation, is presently mired in what very well could be his worst full season in the majors. His start yesterday (5 IP and 97 imminently hittable pitches resulting in 11 H, 1K, 1BB, 3R) did not inspire overwhelming confidence in his abilities henceforth ? though to be sure things only really fell apart for the team after he left the game.
When this happens to players in their 40s, it's often a signal that their days of defying the normal career trajectory are done. And with the Phillies staring at a starting roation logjam, the speculation that Jamie Moyer's long, crazy run into his mid 40s may be over is becoming conventional wisdom.
Except that Moyer's been here before. His age-44 season during which he went 14-12 but with a 5.01 ERA seemed to suggest a pitcher and the end of his powers. Except that that age-44 season (2007) also corresponded with his highest strikeout rate since he was a young turk of 35. His age 45 season was last year's excellent 16-win, 3.71 ERA campaign.
Then there was his dreadful age-37 season: 13-10 but with a terrible 5.49 ERA. Of course, his age-38 season saw him log his first 20-win season with a 3.43 ERA that was good enough for fourth place in the American League Cy Young voting.
All of which is to say that Moyer's got a history of both defying the odds and of following up lackluster (okay, lousy) seasons with strong ones. The problem is that those lousy seasons seem to be coming more frequently as he ages.
Is Moyer done? Of is he simply gearing up for the best age-47 season ever? Moyer's list of comparables is pretty short, and full of freaks of nature like Nolan Ryan and Tommy John and knuckleballers like Phil Niekro and Charlie Hough. Moyer's best comparison is Tommy John, based on career length and repertoire. John had solid age-43 and age-44 seasons, then stunk in his age-45 season and fell off a cliff at 46.
Of course, Baseball Prospectus's PECOTA projection system says Moyer will still be employable, albeit barely, at age 48 and still half a win better than replacement level next year (though, per their accounting, certainly not worth the $6.5 million he'll be paid).
But John's career is nowhere near a perfect analog for Moyer's, which is to say we're in uncharted water here.
Sayeth the folks at Prospectus:
How old is Moyer? So old that PECOTA figures his only peers are two knuckleballers, a guy who liked to say that his surgically repaired left arm was 20 years younger than he was, and a victim of the color line who was a Rookie of the Year candidate at 41 and pitched three scoreless innings at 58. Wouldja believe Moyer had the third-highest strikeout rate of his career last year, trailing only those of 1987 and 1998? He also had his highest walk rate since 2000. That's right, folks: Moyer has been around so long he's actually wrapped around and restarted as a power pitcher (not really). That's not to say Moyer didn't show signs of the inevitable last year: his season began with a string of seven consecutive quality starts, but thereafter he posted a 5.65 ERA as he lost consistency. When he was good, he was very good. When he was bad, it was time to warm up the TiVo and watch an old Hitchcock film. Moyer probably has more of the same in him in this, the last year of his contract. The real question is when the injury termites will finally start gnawing.
What would you do if you were in Ruben Amaro's shoes?
-Move Moyer to the bullpen?
-Gently persuade Moyer to retire?
-Hide Moyer on the disabled list in case Pedro Martinez flops in the fifth starter role?
-Other?
 

Brewers in 7

EOG Dedicated
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

i heard on the radio today that the phils are thinking of DL'ing Moyer with a tired arm, but well see what happens
 

Viejo Dinosaur

EOG Master
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Bullpen for Moyer....Pedro starts on Wednesday against the Cubs...
 

PalmTree

EOG Dedicated
Re: How do the Phillies keep throwing Moyer out to the mound?

Loving this bet even more now. Hamels is obviously hurt, and putting Pedro in the rotation is a sure sign of panic.

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