How do you steam chase?
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Re: How do you steam chase?
Basically that is correct, but it is a lot more complicated that that.
Basically that is correct, but it is a lot more complicated that that.
Re: How do you steam chase?
I know there's a myriad intricacies in sports betting. Thanks for answering my question. I'm happy to be on the right track.
I know there's a myriad intricacies in sports betting. Thanks for answering my question. I'm happy to be on the right track.
Re: How do you steam chase?
I'm looking forward to it. Thanks. Any advice would be welcomed.
I'm looking forward to it. Thanks. Any advice would be welcomed.
cassiusclay
EOG Master
Re: How do you steam chase?
it starts with boiling some water
it starts with boiling some water
Re: How do you steam chase?
Ive found if you bring the water to a boil while the eggs are in the pot, then turn off the heat and let them set for 15 minutes they are about perfect....but to each her own.
Ive found if you bring the water to a boil while the eggs are in the pot, then turn off the heat and let them set for 15 minutes they are about perfect....but to each her own.
cassiusclay
EOG Master
Almost Allright
GO Bucks!!!
Re: How do you steam chase?
Pouring some water on hot rocks is another method I've seen used with some success.
Pouring some water on hot rocks is another method I've seen used with some success.
IrishTim
EOG Dedicated
carolinakid
Banned
Re: How do you steam chase?
Number 1 get a good line service that is live and not delayed i like don best the best but sportsoptions is ok...........showmetheodds is another i would say try........................ck
Number 1 get a good line service that is live and not delayed i like don best the best but sportsoptions is ok...........showmetheodds is another i would say try........................ck
High Times
EOG Master
Re: How do you steam chase?
Some people say that steam chasers are the bottom feeders of the sports betting scene.
Shows a total lack of class if you ask me
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Some people say that steam chasers are the bottom feeders of the sports betting scene.
Shows a total lack of class if you ask me
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cassiusclay
EOG Master
Re: How do you steam chase?
High Times
EOG Master
Re: How do you steam chase?
Are you serious?
My 13 year old DAUGHTER knows what steam chasing is .. 2348ji23e
Are you serious?
My 13 year old DAUGHTER knows what steam chasing is .. 2348ji23e
Re: How do you steam chase?
A lack of class is charging people -110 to bet on a game. They have no problems having an advantage, but when people try to even the odds they get all pissy.
Some people say that steam chasers are the bottom feeders of the sports betting scene.
Shows a total lack of class if you ask me
A lack of class is charging people -110 to bet on a game. They have no problems having an advantage, but when people try to even the odds they get all pissy.
KingRevolver
Born Rambler
Re: How do you steam chase?
Good point, Bricker. You're playing within the rules, but the books still cry about it.
Good point, Bricker. You're playing within the rules, but the books still cry about it.
carolinakid
Banned
Re: How do you steam chase?
Good pont Brick and dont forget those -120-135-140 etc on total plays..CK
Good pont Brick and dont forget those -120-135-140 etc on total plays..CK
Re: How do you steam chase?
Which package do you recommend? Standard package is $99 monthly, professional is $299 monthly. Thanks in advance.
Which package do you recommend? Standard package is $99 monthly, professional is $299 monthly. Thanks in advance.
IrishTim
EOG Dedicated
Re: How do you steam chase?
It's all relative to your bankroll. I'm on the pro, but I believe the only difference is that the cheaper one has a 60 second delay with CRIS and maybe Olympic or Grande. But you can fire in plenty of good bets at slow moving books by just looking at real time Pinny and a few others.
It's all relative to your bankroll. I'm on the pro, but I believe the only difference is that the cheaper one has a 60 second delay with CRIS and maybe Olympic or Grande. But you can fire in plenty of good bets at slow moving books by just looking at real time Pinny and a few others.
carolinakid
Banned
Re: How do you steam chase?
if you are new get showme the odds, just as fast or faster than so and free...... you can add the books you like
if you are new get showme the odds, just as fast or faster than so and free...... you can add the books you like
carolinakid
Banned
Re: How do you steam chase?
they only thing about so it is java base and i do not like that here.ck
they only thing about so it is java base and i do not like that here.ck
bernardoincr
EOG Dedicated
Re: How do you steam chase?
the boards label steam as a move by a bunch of sportsbooks due to a syndicate move. the original number is no longer available anywhere==unless you have a local who holds lines. therefore you are doomed to bet a bad number--worse you are doomed a loser--forget it--you cannot win chasing staem.
the boards label steam as a move by a bunch of sportsbooks due to a syndicate move. the original number is no longer available anywhere==unless you have a local who holds lines. therefore you are doomed to bet a bad number--worse you are doomed a loser--forget it--you cannot win chasing staem.
carolinakid
Banned
Re: How do you steam chase?
Sportsinsights too me is not that good, i have tried it a couple of time over the yrs and it does me no good here at all....ck
Sportsinsights too me is not that good, i have tried it a couple of time over the yrs and it does me no good here at all....ck
Re: How do you steam chase?
This is the best post made in this thread so far
Though it won't stop those who are non-handicappers from using it as their go-to strategy
This is the best post made in this thread so far
Though it won't stop those who are non-handicappers from using it as their go-to strategy
KingRevolver
Born Rambler
I8Ahorse
EOG Addicted
IrishTim
EOG Dedicated
Re: How do you steam chase?
If you're not getting the pre-move # then it's not steam chasing. Saying you can't win chasing stale numbers is the same as saying the originators who moved the market can't win. Usually if you're dropping 50k+ to move a number in a liquid mkt, you have a large bankroll from years of profitable fanning and will win in the long run.
If you're not getting the pre-move # then it's not steam chasing. Saying you can't win chasing stale numbers is the same as saying the originators who moved the market can't win. Usually if you're dropping 50k+ to move a number in a liquid mkt, you have a large bankroll from years of profitable fanning and will win in the long run.
Re: How do you steam chase?
Meh some guys with a syndicate behind them can move a number without placing a bet, they can just leak their play and the books who are so scared shitless will move a number on hearsay.
There is no empirical data to back up anyones claims about steam, whether getting the originator is good, or buying the opposite side once it peaks. I have tracked it for almost 20 years and you cant identify why the steam came or who started it to if it was a combination of several factors.
Seriously, if youre new then just pick a team and hope. You have just about as much chance as anyone else. Always try to get the best number you can when you bet, but dont worry too much about anything else. And if you win the first bet you ever make quit because that will guarantee you will have made more money than 99.999999% of anyone who bets on sports.
Meh some guys with a syndicate behind them can move a number without placing a bet, they can just leak their play and the books who are so scared shitless will move a number on hearsay.
There is no empirical data to back up anyones claims about steam, whether getting the originator is good, or buying the opposite side once it peaks. I have tracked it for almost 20 years and you cant identify why the steam came or who started it to if it was a combination of several factors.
Seriously, if youre new then just pick a team and hope. You have just about as much chance as anyone else. Always try to get the best number you can when you bet, but dont worry too much about anything else. And if you win the first bet you ever make quit because that will guarantee you will have made more money than 99.999999% of anyone who bets on sports.
Re: How do you steam chase?
Re: How do you steam chase?
In a bet with two options, steam chasing should allow you to win about half the time.
In a bet with two options, steam chasing should allow you to win about half the time.
ATX
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Re: How do you steam chase?
I have a database for bases and NFL and NCAA football, they are pretty deep in terms of wins and losses and ATS and situational results. I thikn my baseball ones will go back to the mid 70s if I open them all up. The NCAA ones go back to 1981 and the NFL one goes back to 1984. Although I dont usually go that far due to the 2 point conversion. And similar to NCAA when they introduced overtime.
But I also have a set that has openers, moves and closers. Those arent nearly as extensive. I think the NFL has full season back to 2000 and part of 1999, and the NCAA football one has back to 1997. Bases is a mish mash but at least most of the teams back to 2000. Still works in progress on a couple teams and also getting records pre 2000 is pretty difficult if not impossible.
I would say my databases are the most complete of anything out there. And maybe have been for awhile. Thats why when people spew out stats or facts I can usually counter or supprt what they are saying by doing a couple quick searches.
The problem is they still only have at most 3 different sources for lines and movement, so even though they have that they still dont have everything.
But they are basically feel good things because I never ever claim that past results are a good indicator of future expectations. Because just because Team A is 12-0 against Team B under a certain situation since say 1985, that means nothing since this is 2011 and more than likely none of the players in this game were in any of those games that made that trend/stat what it is. Nor do I think that a 3 point move that lost (both on original and obviously closer) means anything versus a game that moved 2 points and covered the spread by 1 (because of the move) IMO any one point win is luck and getting the 1 point doesnt make you a genius it just means you got lucky. What would make you a genius is not betting that game but playing the 5 point dog that won SU by 17. At least on a semi consistent basis.
Edit, I also have an NBA and NCAA basketball database but they are in the beginning stages as I find NCAA hoops to be fairly easy and I stopped betting NBA regular season in about 2004, so their priority was set back a bit.
I have a database for bases and NFL and NCAA football, they are pretty deep in terms of wins and losses and ATS and situational results. I thikn my baseball ones will go back to the mid 70s if I open them all up. The NCAA ones go back to 1981 and the NFL one goes back to 1984. Although I dont usually go that far due to the 2 point conversion. And similar to NCAA when they introduced overtime.
But I also have a set that has openers, moves and closers. Those arent nearly as extensive. I think the NFL has full season back to 2000 and part of 1999, and the NCAA football one has back to 1997. Bases is a mish mash but at least most of the teams back to 2000. Still works in progress on a couple teams and also getting records pre 2000 is pretty difficult if not impossible.
I would say my databases are the most complete of anything out there. And maybe have been for awhile. Thats why when people spew out stats or facts I can usually counter or supprt what they are saying by doing a couple quick searches.
The problem is they still only have at most 3 different sources for lines and movement, so even though they have that they still dont have everything.
But they are basically feel good things because I never ever claim that past results are a good indicator of future expectations. Because just because Team A is 12-0 against Team B under a certain situation since say 1985, that means nothing since this is 2011 and more than likely none of the players in this game were in any of those games that made that trend/stat what it is. Nor do I think that a 3 point move that lost (both on original and obviously closer) means anything versus a game that moved 2 points and covered the spread by 1 (because of the move) IMO any one point win is luck and getting the 1 point doesnt make you a genius it just means you got lucky. What would make you a genius is not betting that game but playing the 5 point dog that won SU by 17. At least on a semi consistent basis.
Edit, I also have an NBA and NCAA basketball database but they are in the beginning stages as I find NCAA hoops to be fairly easy and I stopped betting NBA regular season in about 2004, so their priority was set back a bit.