Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Heim

EOG Master
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Krackman was a forum rat back in the day.......he had many trial and errors but learned
from his mistakes....including but not limited to manipulating cbb totals. :)

btw how'd he do with his picks from the show?
 

KingRevolver

Born Rambler
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Krackman went 2-1.

He gave out three Unders. Chiefs, Eagles were Winners, and Broncos Under was a Loser.
 

railbird

EOG Master
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Krackman got some of his facts wrong on the radio. I met him 2 years ago, but didnt introduce myself as Railbird. I did introcduce myself 2 weeks ago as Railbird.. I havent posted about him in 2 months prior to our meeting 2 weeks ago., I just said that he about 7 years ago he would pimp offshore books that would go under 2 months later. Maybe it was coincedence but it happend about 4 times. I dont know his MO, I here is successfull, Im guessing he uses people that know way more than him and or screenwatches and bets at slow books and I know he is a casino rat. I wish him luck in the future.
 
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joeybagadonuts

Guest
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I remember when Krackman use to post at the rx back in the day. Him and Kenny were good friends, if I recall correctly.

I think he also left the forums after him and Ken pimped Betpanam as being 'stand up guys' with 'deep pockets' (aka the usual rigmarole at the time) followed shortly by them stiffing everyone.

I do think he's a decently sharp guy from his posts and things I've head of him.
 

railbird

EOG Master
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I remember when Krackman use to post at the rx back in the day. Him and Kenny were good friends, if I recall correctly.

I think he also left the forums after him and Ken pimped Betpanam as being 'stand up guys' with 'deep pockets' (aka the usual rigmarole at the time) followed shortly by them stiffing everyone.

I do think he's a decently sharp guy from his posts and things I've head of him.


I wonder what notes Gilsan took? The guys that bet at 8am win?
 

ArchieBunker

EOG Dedicated
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Krackman got some of his facts wrong on the radio. I met him 2 years ago, but didnt introduce myself as Railbird. I did introcduce myself 2 weeks ago as Railbird.. I havent posted about him in 2 months prior to our meeting 2 weeks ago., I just said that he about 7 years ago he would pimp offshore books that would go under 2 months later. Maybe it was coincedence but it happend about 4 times. I dont know his MO, I here is successfull, Im guessing he uses people that know way more than him and or screenwatches and bets at slow books and I know he is a casino rat. I wish him luck in the future.



Rail,

I know 5th graders that spell better than you do and that use better grammar too.... did you ever pass a fucking English class?


I just said that he about 7 years ago he would pimp


This is unreal.... if you're ever going to convince people to send you money then you're going to have to act like you're semi intelligent. :doh1
 

railbird

EOG Master
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I do lots on twitter Archie. limit time and space
 

Seymour

EOG Dedicated
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Yes, Krackman and Ken went out of their way to pimp Betpanam - I remember them talking about the alleged bond that was posted with the Panamanian gaming commission - yeah that fiction
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I remember when Krackman use to post at the rx back in the day. Him and Kenny were good friends, if I recall correctly.

I think he also left the forums after him and Ken pimped Betpanam as being 'stand up guys' with 'deep pockets' (aka the usual rigmarole at the time) followed shortly by them stiffing everyone.

I do think he's a decently sharp guy from his posts and things I've head of him.


Right on the money, all counts.

While the BetPanAm incident is one most remember, he was more flagrantly obvious in pimping up a shit book at MW right before it went under. It was found out very shortly that he was doing so because he still had a balance in there, by encouraging post ups he was trying to keep them alive long enough to get paid. It worked. For those that remember SeaUrchin from over at Peep's that incident was what caused them to have a big problem. While Krack got his money out SeaUrchin took it up the ass.

Krack took Ken's side against me in the "stiff" case but still have to say I liked the guy, I liked him a lot more obviously before that though. He, Ken, and I shot dice a few times, hung out, talked shop, he knows what's going on. He mentioned it on the show but sharps used to have a beef with him for giving too much away on the forums. I don't see him around much but it wouldn't surprise me he still does that, the guy has a big heart and has taken it up the ass a few times because of it. Bets big, the fact he does this and has been around a long period pretty much speaks for itself.
 
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Krackman is another phony. He was in Shrinks Pocket form jumpstreet. He was one of the guys they helped make a name for. It was the typical con. You have a few dozen names/ghosts you make up let the spout picks and plays and this or that, build them a rep then sell them to the masses as a legit gambler or authority.

These guys would say every book that sprung up overnight was a solid place to play and a great one to have money in and always had the best odds and pay offs, the usual pitch. More than likely these guys, Krackman isnt the only one, got cuts or maybe even had some investments in these things as time went on. Afterall all scams needed a little seed money.

Then as the tide shifted and Shrink became more and more obvious some of these guys 'flipped'. They started being 'watch dogs' and helping people out and telling them allt o get their money out early. All a ruse and the typical next step in the evolution of the con. But by then these guys would have a few ghosts with reputations so one ghost would spout the old company line, a different ghost would be a rah rah guy, and the 'main' name would be the guy who had flipped and was preaching caution. Shrink probably did that so these guys could go on with thier forum reputations once he was out of the business. When he sold the RX the plan was fully realized to anyone with a brain. Its why the Shrink was spit on after is death by most everyone who actually had a memory of the guy or wasnt at one time in his pocket.

Now that isnt to say some of these guys werent without ability. But it is the same ability as any other tout scum out there. They talk a good game, and unless you can somehow keep meticulous records on them you never know how well they REALLY do.

All conmen have some knowledge as well, and when they are seemingly on the 'losing' side of a deal it is always for the bigger score down the road.
 

Dino

EOG Member
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

[SUP]Now thats great radio.

Very nice job Krackman[/SUP]
 
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

The group that bets Coll BBall 8:00 am Vegas time must have hit Pitt -1. Screen moved to
Pitt -2 at that time.
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Krackman is another phony. He was in Shrinks Pocket form jumpstreet. He was one of the guys they helped make a name for. It was the typical con. You have a few dozen names/ghosts you make up let the spout picks and plays and this or that, build them a rep then sell them to the masses as a legit gambler or authority.

These guys would say every book that sprung up overnight was a solid place to play and a great one to have money in and always had the best odds and pay offs, the usual pitch. More than likely these guys, Krackman isnt the only one, got cuts or maybe even had some investments in these things as time went on. Afterall all scams needed a little seed money.

Then as the tide shifted and Shrink became more and more obvious some of these guys 'flipped'. They started being 'watch dogs' and helping people out and telling them allt o get their money out early. All a ruse and the typical next step in the evolution of the con. But by then these guys would have a few ghosts with reputations so one ghost would spout the old company line, a different ghost would be a rah rah guy, and the 'main' name would be the guy who had flipped and was preaching caution. Shrink probably did that so these guys could go on with thier forum reputations once he was out of the business. When he sold the RX the plan was fully realized to anyone with a brain. Its why the Shrink was spit on after is death by most everyone who actually had a memory of the guy or wasnt at one time in his pocket.

Now that isnt to say some of these guys werent without ability. But it is the same ability as any other tout scum out there. They talk a good game, and unless you can somehow keep meticulous records on them you never know how well they REALLY do.

All conmen have some knowledge as well, and when they are seemingly on the 'losing' side of a deal it is always for the bigger score down the road.

This
 

Krackman

EOG Senior Member
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Wantit- You are absolutely wrong with your facts. " got cuts" or "had investments in" If I had all the money i was stiffed by books like betpanam I wouldnt even be in the betting biz anymore. I was stiffed out of more money from betpanam then everyone on these forums combined. ( same with other books ) They wined , dined and had the president of the country back them. The marketing director for pinnacle who I met in curacao left Pinnacle for betpanam and in the end I got fvcked the most for trusting him.

Patrick, I always liked you and had fun hanging the few times we met. I admit when I am wrong and I only got the sides of the guys i knew and trusted in the biz and never yours so i apologize if I was wrong. I actually got to be friends with seaurchin(Larry) for many years before his death we hung out.

In the end I did make some mistakes in forum world by trusting these so called sportsbook owners and managers but in the end nobody got fvcked for more coin then me.
 

Krackman

EOG Senior Member
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I also do have a weakness for helping others that truly want to make it in the advantage gambling field. The problem is people take my kindness for weakness and it has hurt me in the past.

If it were not for forums though I would not of learned what i know today. The value of numbers and many many inside secrets were given away in the late 90's early 2000's on forums like these so i kind of just give back or pay it forward.

I probably wont be posting here or anywhere in the near future because of the back and forth time consuming bs, Good Luck!
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I also do have a weakness for helping others that truly want to make it in the advantage gambling field. The problem is people take my kindness for weakness and it has hurt me in the past.

If it were not for forums though I would not of learned what i know today. The value of numbers and many many inside secrets were given away in the late 90's early 2000's on forums like these so i kind of just give back or pay it forward.

I probably wont be posting here or anywhere, Good Luck!

May I recruit you for one more radio appearance before Super Bowl XLVI?
 

Krackman

EOG Senior Member
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I will have a list of advantage props the Friday before if that will be good
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

JJGold is claiming I'm a drunk.

One problem: I haven't had a drink in 21 years and 246 days.

I don't have a problem and I'm not working any 12-step plan, I simply abstain from alcohol.

:yay
 

FISHHEAD

EOG Master
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

JJGold is claiming I'm a drunk.

One problem: I haven't had a drink in 21 years and 246 days.

I don't have a problem and I'm not working any 12-step plan, I simply abstain from alcohol.

:yay

Major problem...............

.........I will address these issues and others the next time I comp your shuffling ass for dinner.


-FH-


:cheers


PS--PENN & TELLER have nothing over KRACKMAN & JJGOLD
 
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

Wantit- You are absolutely wrong with your facts. " got cuts" or "had investments in" If I had all the money i was stiffed by books like betpanam I wouldnt even be in the betting biz anymore. I was stiffed out of more money from betpanam then everyone on these forums combined. ( same with other books ) They wined , dined and had the president of the country back them. The marketing director for pinnacle who I met in curacao left Pinnacle for betpanam and in the end I got fvcked the most for trusting him.

Patrick, I always liked you and had fun hanging the few times we met. I admit when I am wrong and I only got the sides of the guys i knew and trusted in the biz and never yours so i apologize if I was wrong. I actually got to be friends with seaurchin(Larry) for many years before his death we hung out.

In the end I did make some mistakes in forum world by trusting these so called sportsbook owners and managers but in the end nobody got fvcked for more coin then me.


well that might be revisionist history. I was lucky enough to never be stiffed by an offshore boo, but that was probably because I had enough brains not to fall for the dog and pony show. I just have some fairly lucid memories of how things went down with many many books back in those days. While pan am seems to be the go to book there were a couple you definitely had knowledge of before it was made public. Whether you got all your money out or not is moot, because you made sure you got something out before you made it common knowledge. Obviously some people would cal that 'smart' but you cant claim consumer advocate type status or looking out for the 'litttle' guy while simultaneously protecting yourself. Especially when it was a book that got full endorsements from you and others. While you werent the only one, you were definitely a big part of a lot of it back then. I also doubt you can deny the Shrink and the RX, and forums in general helped create the whole image of what the monicker 'krackman' meant and stood for. Not quite the claim to fame fezzik got out of it, but you were defintely more involved in the sportsbook promotion department.

It is almost ancient history at this point so no real need to re-hash it all now as for the most part 80% of the books were scam books back then and the lines have become slow blurred as to who knew what and how much would take a stenographer to validate.

I just know a lot of guys had an evolution in hose days and they were generally the ones with a couple hands in the cookie jar.
 

Ace

EOG Veteran
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

krackman i sent you a pm
 
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I'm a big fan of Krackman radio. Great stuff.

He is the heir apparent to Alan Boston radio.

The latest all-knowing, blustery, Las Vegas radio guest is hardly new shtick.

Hope he does well...
 

FISHHEAD

EOG Master
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

JOHN KELLY is the best radio guy in vegas..............bar none................and many times his soothing voice on the radio puts me right to sleep(ART BELL still the best at that though).



I'm working as we type on a financial arrangement to have JJGOLD as a guest on the EOG sports hour...................be patient, anticipate talks being long and drawn out.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

JOHN KELLY is the best radio guy in vegas..............bar none................and many times his soothing voice on the radio puts me right to sleep(ART BELL still the best at that though).



I'm working as we type on a financial arrangement to have JJGOLD as a guest on the EOG sports hour...................be patient, anticipate talks being long and drawn out.

I want JJ to apologize for calling me a drunk.

Wannabe weasel.

I'm slowly learning this Internet trash talk game.
 

Teddy kgb

Banned
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I'm working as we type on a financial arrangement to have JJGOLD as a guest on the EOG sports hour...................be patient, anticipate talks being long and drawn out.

Nobody here gives a care about JJ Gold.....Go tell the kids at SBR they do
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: Krackman on Railbird, JJGold, and Posters who are Losers

I'm a big fan of Krackman radio. Great stuff.

He is the heir apparent to Alan Boston radio.

The latest all-knowing, blustery, Las Vegas radio guest is hardly new shtick.

Hope he does well...

Krackman is Alan Boston without the baggage.
 
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