bigbet1234
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so this douche bag tells me sitting next to me at the blackjack table. (as he bets 2 $100 hands throughout, splitting 10's). so do I
I gamble for a living.......
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Re: I gamble for a living.......
That's the most puzzling thing about the randomness of gambling. Four zillion books explaining the right way to do it. Not one of them can explain to me why a bonehead play next to me always seems to win.
LOL.
That's the most puzzling thing about the randomness of gambling. Four zillion books explaining the right way to do it. Not one of them can explain to me why a bonehead play next to me always seems to win.
LOL.
KingRevolver
Born Rambler
Re: I gamble for a living.......
I've rarely split 10s. I have to be on quite a roll... and the Dealer has to be showing a 6 or lower.
I've rarely split 10s. I have to be on quite a roll... and the Dealer has to be showing a 6 or lower.
gmenknicks
EOG Dedicated
Re: I gamble for a living.......
if someone spilts 10's at my table I think of all the ways I could kill them before anyone could stop me...
if someone spilts 10's at my table I think of all the ways I could kill them before anyone could stop me...
Re: I gamble for a living.......
Good story
Good story
Flamingo kid
Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: I gamble for a living.......
SO, i dont know anything about black jack....if you have 2 tens, you have 20 and that's a pretty good hand......so, no need to split them? Or, if you wanna be bold and brave, you split them...but most likely one of the tens is going to grab a shit card, so, its kind of a gamble to do that.
Does 'basic strategy' say never split 10s?
SO, i dont know anything about black jack....if you have 2 tens, you have 20 and that's a pretty good hand......so, no need to split them? Or, if you wanna be bold and brave, you split them...but most likely one of the tens is going to grab a shit card, so, its kind of a gamble to do that.
Does 'basic strategy' say never split 10s?
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The problem is people only get pissed if it screws them over, they never say anything if it ends up helping them out. That said, i never split 10s. Take the positive position and roll with it.
The problem is people only get pissed if it screws them over, they never say anything if it ends up helping them out. That said, i never split 10s. Take the positive position and roll with it.
Bucky
EOG Dedicated
Re: I gamble for a living.......
As long as the grass grows, the wind blows, and the sky is blue - you should never split tens. Somebody that did split tens has no clue how to play the game or knows the dealers hole card somehow. At the very least normal human beings should stand up and immediately walk away from a table where such incredible stupity and disdain for people who try to win intelligently is exhibited.
As long as the grass grows, the wind blows, and the sky is blue - you should never split tens. Somebody that did split tens has no clue how to play the game or knows the dealers hole card somehow. At the very least normal human beings should stand up and immediately walk away from a table where such incredible stupity and disdain for people who try to win intelligently is exhibited.
Patrick McIrish
OCCams raZOR
Re: I gamble for a living.......
You shouldn't split tens but the reality is if someone's doing it at the table it has no bearing on what you should be doing. You can put the biggest idiot in the world at your table and he's no more or less likely to help/hurt you in winning. Never get a square to understand that though. If they lose they now have someone to blame for it, nothing makes for a better target than someone less skilled then we are.
You shouldn't split tens but the reality is if someone's doing it at the table it has no bearing on what you should be doing. You can put the biggest idiot in the world at your table and he's no more or less likely to help/hurt you in winning. Never get a square to understand that though. If they lose they now have someone to blame for it, nothing makes for a better target than someone less skilled then we are.
Patrick McIrish
OCCams raZOR
Re: I gamble for a living.......
And if you gamble for a living BigBet you did the last thing you should have done here - split tens along with him. What he does makes no difference to you, he could either hurt or help you, in the long run it makes no difference what anyone else is doing. But if you feel his play is affecting you then switch tables, the last thing you should be doing is sabotaging your own hand to "get back" at him. Carry on.
And if you gamble for a living BigBet you did the last thing you should have done here - split tens along with him. What he does makes no difference to you, he could either hurt or help you, in the long run it makes no difference what anyone else is doing. But if you feel his play is affecting you then switch tables, the last thing you should be doing is sabotaging your own hand to "get back" at him. Carry on.
IrishTim
EOG Dedicated
Re: I gamble for a living.......
splitting 10's is the second worst thing you can do next to saying hit me to the dealer when he deals you 21
splitting 10's is the second worst thing you can do next to saying hit me to the dealer when he deals you 21
pvcpipe
EOG Master
Re: I gamble for a living.......
Solid post. It still aggravates me to see people do it, not because of any effect on my hand (ridiculous), but because it's so stupid.
Solid post. It still aggravates me to see people do it, not because of any effect on my hand (ridiculous), but because it's so stupid.
FISHHEAD
EOG Master
Patrick McIrish
OCCams raZOR
Re: I gamble for a living.......
Very true. Not that it matters to how we'll end up, just upsets me someone that ignorant is taking oxygen.:LMAO
It is easy to fall into that trap, I hated going with my ex. Taught her basic strategy and she thought her last name was Hoyle. I watched once, the guy she was complaining about (and yes he was an idiot) actually helped her about 4 hands in a row. I saw it, I was standing behind her. On the 5th time he did something stupid, he took a card that would have helped her, she went ranting and raving about it. What about the previous 4 times?
We all fall victim to selective memory a bit. If it helps we forget it, if it hurts we never forget. Sort of like changing boxmen (or dice), if the next roll is bad the superstitious people will jump and down saying they told us so. If its a good roll they quickly forget about it. Trying to convince someone of this that doesn't want to believe it is a lifelong pursuit. I suggest a hobby or two instead. And don't forget selective memory here in the sports betting world, it's all over the forums on a daily basis.
Very true. Not that it matters to how we'll end up, just upsets me someone that ignorant is taking oxygen.:LMAO
It is easy to fall into that trap, I hated going with my ex. Taught her basic strategy and she thought her last name was Hoyle. I watched once, the guy she was complaining about (and yes he was an idiot) actually helped her about 4 hands in a row. I saw it, I was standing behind her. On the 5th time he did something stupid, he took a card that would have helped her, she went ranting and raving about it. What about the previous 4 times?
We all fall victim to selective memory a bit. If it helps we forget it, if it hurts we never forget. Sort of like changing boxmen (or dice), if the next roll is bad the superstitious people will jump and down saying they told us so. If its a good roll they quickly forget about it. Trying to convince someone of this that doesn't want to believe it is a lifelong pursuit. I suggest a hobby or two instead. And don't forget selective memory here in the sports betting world, it's all over the forums on a daily basis.
FISHHEAD
EOG Master
pantherman
EOG Enthusiast
Re: I gamble for a living.......
The problem with this is that you'll tip off that you're a counter and the casino won't want to deal you again. I have a friend who is banned from a casino because of this.
Worst (realistic) thing you can do in blackjack is to not split 8's against a dealer 7. Let's assume you're not going to do anything outrageously stupid like ask for a hit on 21 or 20.
Another acceptable time to split 10s is in a blackjack tournament where you're playing against other players and you need to accumulate more chips but have already made a maximum bet.
The problem with this is that you'll tip off that you're a counter and the casino won't want to deal you again. I have a friend who is banned from a casino because of this.
Worst (realistic) thing you can do in blackjack is to not split 8's against a dealer 7. Let's assume you're not going to do anything outrageously stupid like ask for a hit on 21 or 20.
Another acceptable time to split 10s is in a blackjack tournament where you're playing against other players and you need to accumulate more chips but have already made a maximum bet.
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You've learned a few things in your twilight years.........this is the table equivalent of a college football teaser.
bigbet1234
EOG Dedicated
Re: I gamble for a living.......
There are some rare instances you should split 10's, but this guy wasn't in that position. Playing 2 hands can eat up all the + cards, but at the same time help eat up a - shoe too.
There are some rare instances you should split 10's, but this guy wasn't in that position. Playing 2 hands can eat up all the + cards, but at the same time help eat up a - shoe too.
bigbet1234
EOG Dedicated
William Lee
Banned
Re: I gamble for a living.......
Card counters split 10's all the time. One way to spot a card counter is if he splits 10's at different times. Kinger why only 6 or lower. Very possible dealer has an ace with that 6 to make a 17 and not take a hit. Better only do it when dealer is showing between a 3-5 only. But you are no card counter I am sure so don't do it ever.
Card counters split 10's all the time. One way to spot a card counter is if he splits 10's at different times. Kinger why only 6 or lower. Very possible dealer has an ace with that 6 to make a 17 and not take a hit. Better only do it when dealer is showing between a 3-5 only. But you are no card counter I am sure so don't do it ever.
kinosh
2
Re: I gamble for a living.......
Do you expect to have a bunch of geniuses at your table at all times? Good luck with that
Do you expect to have a bunch of geniuses at your table at all times? Good luck with that
ajaysdreamplays
EOG Addicted
Re: I gamble for a living.......
I'm not much of a blackjack player, but I do have a book, GAMBLING: NEVADA STYLE, by Lemmel, whose author claims to be one. He tells the reader to split tens when the dealer shows 4,5, or 6. He does qualify that by stating it is a "bold" play, and that if you wish to play conservatively, tens should not be split.
I'm not much of a blackjack player, but I do have a book, GAMBLING: NEVADA STYLE, by Lemmel, whose author claims to be one. He tells the reader to split tens when the dealer shows 4,5, or 6. He does qualify that by stating it is a "bold" play, and that if you wish to play conservatively, tens should not be split.
kinosh
2
Re: I gamble for a living.......
Yep. I remember seeing a guy split 10s and it drew quite a bit of attention from the pit. Seems like the REAL pros wouldn't split 10s for that reason
Yep. I remember seeing a guy split 10s and it drew quite a bit of attention from the pit. Seems like the REAL pros wouldn't split 10s for that reason
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Or they'd do it for that exact reason...........Dealer's showing an 8, dude splits 10's. Pit has to be called to OK the hand. You think he walks away from the table thinking this guy's a pro? Or this guy's a drunk tourist?
Or they'd do it for that exact reason...........Dealer's showing an 8, dude splits 10's. Pit has to be called to OK the hand. You think he walks away from the table thinking this guy's a pro? Or this guy's a drunk tourist?
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I am amazed at the amount of smart people who don't "get" this
I am amazed at the amount of smart people who don't "get" this
mr merlin
EOG Master
Re: I gamble for a living.......
True, other players bad play only bothers you when you're losing, but when you're down, and have a big bet out, and "need" this win, and some knob costs you the hand that you were "supposed" to win, it's pretty damn hard to just let it go.
High Times
EOG Master
Re: I gamble for a living.......
So if you're playing at a table (1 deck) where the dealer is showing a 3, 4, 5, or 6 and everybody is showing low cards and the guy next to you is showing a 13 and he hits it doesn't affect you?
The odds that a 10 is coming is increased (not by much, but it is a % higher)
The odds that the dealer has a 10 under the low card is also increased.
So all of you think it doesn't matter if the players who are showing a 12 through 16 take a card?
No wonder very few of you think gambling can't be beat.
:LMAO
So if you're playing at a table (1 deck) where the dealer is showing a 3, 4, 5, or 6 and everybody is showing low cards and the guy next to you is showing a 13 and he hits it doesn't affect you?
The odds that a 10 is coming is increased (not by much, but it is a % higher)
The odds that the dealer has a 10 under the low card is also increased.
So all of you think it doesn't matter if the players who are showing a 12 through 16 take a card?
No wonder very few of you think gambling can't be beat.
:LMAO
Teddy kgb
Banned
Re: I gamble for a living.......
I've repeated that many times but it falls on deaf ears.......
I've repeated that many times but it falls on deaf ears.......
mr merlin
EOG Master
Re: I gamble for a living.......
Of course it matters, on that hand the dope can and will effect the outcome, over the long term however, it will even out and other players play, whether good or bad, will not matter.
High Times
EOG Master
Re: I gamble for a living.......
You will never get a deaf, dumb, and blind person to understand simple math.
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You will never get a deaf, dumb, and blind person to understand simple math.
op:High Times
EOG Master
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That was an extreme example, but it does show you that other players CAN affect your play.
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That was an extreme example, but it does show you that other players CAN affect your play.
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Teddy kgb
Banned
Re: I gamble for a living.......
No it doesn't even out because I get up and leave...again and again and again every time it happens so are you telling me to stay and sit with some dipshit because his stupidity will even out? I'll pass....
No it doesn't even out because I get up and leave...again and again and again every time it happens so are you telling me to stay and sit with some dipshit because his stupidity will even out? I'll pass....
mr merlin
EOG Master
Re: I gamble for a living.......
So whats your point?That was an extreme example, but it does show you that other players CAN affect your play.
mr merlin
EOG Master
Re: I gamble for a living.......
I agree that it's best to get up and leave, but good luck finding a table where everyone "knows how to play".
High Times
EOG Master
Re: I gamble for a living.......
You must not have been to Las Vegas lately.
Empty tables are everywhere.
You must not have been to Las Vegas lately.
Empty tables are everywhere.
mr merlin
EOG Master
Re: I gamble for a living.......
Ever notice how you sit down at an empty table so you can play fast and alone, and pretty soon the tables full?