Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
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Patrick McIrish
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Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
How funny is it that arguably one of the greatest coaches in NFL history decides his team has a better shot at winning by allowing the Giants to score rather than kick a FG and HT argues that those that would make that decision have no understanding of the game. It's just too perfect.
How funny is it that arguably one of the greatest coaches in NFL history decides his team has a better shot at winning by allowing the Giants to score rather than kick a FG and HT argues that those that would make that decision have no understanding of the game. It's just too perfect.
High Times
EOG Master
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
But you just made my point
NEVER .... NEVER should an NFL team (or any sport team) let the other team score!!!!
NEVER
NEVER
I don't care how many time I print it you NEVER let the other team score...
You know why?
Because it DESTROYS the integrity of the game itself!!!
Maybe that's why Landry, Shula, Knoll, Knox, Lombardi, and on and on NEVER, NEVER would allow this CRAP.
They took the loss!!!
These great coach's would NEVER stoop to that level and LET the other team score.
Do any on you have any morals?
Do any of you have any pride?
Letting a team score should be a HUGE penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess in this new world even letting the other team score is OK.......
Fucking idiots
But you just made my point
NEVER .... NEVER should an NFL team (or any sport team) let the other team score!!!!
NEVER
NEVER
I don't care how many time I print it you NEVER let the other team score...
You know why?
Because it DESTROYS the integrity of the game itself!!!
Maybe that's why Landry, Shula, Knoll, Knox, Lombardi, and on and on NEVER, NEVER would allow this CRAP.
They took the loss!!!
These great coach's would NEVER stoop to that level and LET the other team score.
Do any on you have any morals?
Do any of you have any pride?
Letting a team score should be a HUGE penalty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess in this new world even letting the other team score is OK.......
Fucking idiots
High Times
EOG Master
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
:finger004
You will never be smarter than me
:btj:
You are cute though
:finger004
You will never be smarter than me
:btj:
You are cute though
High Times
EOG Master
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
Then why didn't all the great coach's from 20 to 40 years ago do this bullshit!!!!
And that is what this is ..... Bullshit!
Any NFL team that let's another team score should be fined HUGE!!!
Way to ruin a sport!!!!!!!
Shula was right
Lombardi was right
Knoll was right
Brown was right
All the old time coach's were 100% right about this topic.
Letting teams score ....... Falling down at the 1 .......
There was a reason the old teams would never think about doing that ....
It's called INTEGRITY ......
Today's players and teams have lost it!
Then why didn't all the great coach's from 20 to 40 years ago do this bullshit!!!!
And that is what this is ..... Bullshit!
Any NFL team that let's another team score should be fined HUGE!!!
Way to ruin a sport!!!!!!!
Shula was right
Lombardi was right
Knoll was right
Brown was right
All the old time coach's were 100% right about this topic.
Letting teams score ....... Falling down at the 1 .......
There was a reason the old teams would never think about doing that ....
It's called INTEGRITY ......
Today's players and teams have lost it!
High Times
EOG Master
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
I win
:houra
I win
:houra
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
Why are you giving him credit? He blew the game with both his usage of time outs and waiting an extra play to let them score.
BigDaddy
EOG Master
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
Yep, you won.
And you hit 60% betting NBA totals.
You make a killing betting in game.
And you made a killing teasing down 6 point favorites with those "wing nut teasers or whatever they called them".
You're a winner. I concede.
Yep, you won.
And you hit 60% betting NBA totals.
You make a killing betting in game.
And you made a killing teasing down 6 point favorites with those "wing nut teasers or whatever they called them".
You're a winner. I concede.
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
High Times...I agreed with you that the Giants did the right thing and scored but your reasons have me confused as well as some of your comments....some of these posters are just pushing your buttons...
High Times...I agreed with you that the Giants did the right thing and scored but your reasons have me confused as well as some of your comments....some of these posters are just pushing your buttons...
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
He no doubt should have allowed them to score on 1st down IMO.....but I think you have to compare him historically to those in his profession. Nobody was flawless. I stand by one of the best ever.
And in hindsight, easy to say he shouldn't have challenged the catch. But NYG did the right thing and rushed to the line before a replay could be shown. Have to challenge there.
He no doubt should have allowed them to score on 1st down IMO.....but I think you have to compare him historically to those in his profession. Nobody was flawless. I stand by one of the best ever.
And in hindsight, easy to say he shouldn't have challenged the catch. But NYG did the right thing and rushed to the line before a replay could be shown. Have to challenge there.
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
I agree that he's one of the best coaches to ever coach, but his time management was baffling. Another blunder was after the two minute warning. He didn't call a time out allowing the maximum amount of time to run off the clock. It turned out that not calling a time out there didn't make a difference, but could have if the game played out differently.
steak tartar
EOG Dedicated
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
kickers now are infinitely better now that the "good old" days.....hence strategy changes and good coaches recognize that.........in 1967 51% of FG were made now its over 80.........and just look at the 70's \22% of Fg over 50 were made now its up to 55%.......kickers are close to auto 3's now.....i know they can miss cun(t)diff last week.......but overall you cant compare what lombardi wouldve done as to now because the weaponry isnt even the same animal
kickers now are infinitely better now that the "good old" days.....hence strategy changes and good coaches recognize that.........in 1967 51% of FG were made now its over 80.........and just look at the 70's \22% of Fg over 50 were made now its up to 55%.......kickers are close to auto 3's now.....i know they can miss cun(t)diff last week.......but overall you cant compare what lombardi wouldve done as to now because the weaponry isnt even the same animal
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
I think that most of us here watching on TV were a step or two ahead of Belichick.
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I think that most of us here watching on TV were a step or two ahead of Belichick.
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Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
Agree with that, he should have called time out 1st play after the 2:00 warning.
Agree with that, he should have called time out 1st play after the 2:00 warning.
High Times
EOG Master
High Times
EOG Master
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
I think I'm really getting upset about the way the game is being played in 2012.
I really don't like the "let the other team score" mentality. I am sure none of the old time coach's would ever think of doing that.
I also think both calls ARE RIGHT!
You want to take a chance letting the clock run down and take an automatic FG then that seems like a great call UNLESS you miss the FG and then the loss would be the worst loss in Super Bowl history. The kicker would have any missed 25 yd FG and closer named after him. and so on
Scoring the TD and playing 1 minute of defense like the Giants did was the right way to play the game...... Just an opinion
Scoring the TD or sitting down on the 1 ........
It's an opinion as both calls would most likely resulted in a win.
Scoring the TD worked.
op:
I think I'm really getting upset about the way the game is being played in 2012.
I really don't like the "let the other team score" mentality. I am sure none of the old time coach's would ever think of doing that.
I also think both calls ARE RIGHT!
You want to take a chance letting the clock run down and take an automatic FG then that seems like a great call UNLESS you miss the FG and then the loss would be the worst loss in Super Bowl history. The kicker would have any missed 25 yd FG and closer named after him. and so on
Scoring the TD and playing 1 minute of defense like the Giants did was the right way to play the game...... Just an opinion
Scoring the TD or sitting down on the 1 ........
It's an opinion as both calls would most likely resulted in a win.
Scoring the TD worked.
op:High Times
EOG Master
High Times
EOG Master
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
And that has nothing to do with kicking a FG or scoring a TD
The reality is that there are no reliable %'s you can use to make the case that making a game winning FG in the last seconds of a Super Bowl is the right call.
All you can do is guess.
I would rather score the SURE THING TD
this is my last post on this retarded "let's NOT score a TD" talk
And that has nothing to do with kicking a FG or scoring a TD
The reality is that there are no reliable %'s you can use to make the case that making a game winning FG in the last seconds of a Super Bowl is the right call.
All you can do is guess.
I would rather score the SURE THING TD
this is my last post on this retarded "let's NOT score a TD" talk
High Times
EOG Master
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
Not at all.... 2 completely different subjects.
the coin flip is 50/50
There is no math that is exact when talking about making game winning FG's in Super Bowls
Not even close to the same thing
Not at all.... 2 completely different subjects.
the coin flip is 50/50
There is no math that is exact when talking about making game winning FG's in Super Bowls
Not even close to the same thing
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
What would the odds be of NE kicking a FG if the Giants took the 3?
You think the odds are the same for the regular season as compared to the FG that the Giants could have taken in the SB?
What would the odds be of NE kicking a FG if the Giants took the 3?
Re: Why didn't NE let the giants score with 2 mins remaining????
they could have run the clock to about 14 secs and left new eng without at timeout ...so a fg would have only come off a pass interference...it would have been an extra point and not a fg..even manning thought it was right to kneel at the one
they could have run the clock to about 14 secs and left new eng without at timeout ...so a fg would have only come off a pass interference...it would have been an extra point and not a fg..even manning thought it was right to kneel at the one