FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
They can keep the airports open. Obviously the public don't want to travel. My cousin is flying out of O'Hare to Fredericton, New Brunswick
Your Level of Concern About the Coronavirus......on a scale of 1-10
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There is but the dems added a lot of things outside of coronavirus in the bill. They are trying to push the new green deal.
kane
EOG master
Any question you ask me will be met with the same response. If the health officials feel those 21 states should be closed, then that's what I think as well, if the health officials feel those 21 states could safely re-open, then that's what I think. I normally don't let others do the thinking for me, the way you do with Trump, but in this special case of dealing with a pandemic, I have no problem letting the health experts do the thinking for me, I'm fine with whatever they feel is best
If the dems allowed the stimulus bill to pass, then the quarantines could stay in place. Without it, too many lose businesses and jobs.
Health official aren't economists. Trump gets input from all. Losing jobs ruins families and can lead to suicide.
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Trump gets input from all but listens to few. His actions this year have killed people also.
Chi_Archie
EOG Veteran
but is he more informed than gambling forum posters like me?
Dr. Inglesby is the Director of the Center for Health Security of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. The Center for Health Security is dedicated to protecting people’s health from the consequences of epidemics and disasters. Dr. Inglesby is also a Professor in the Department of Environmental Health and Engineering in the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, with a Joint Appointment in the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine.
Dr. Inglesby's work is internationally recognized in the fields of public health preparedness, pandemic and emerging infectious disease, and prevention of and response to biological threats. He was Chair of the Board of Scientific Counselors, Office of Public Health Preparedness and Response, US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) from 2010-2019. He served as Chair of the National Advisory Council of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation’s National Health Security Preparedness Index. He was a member of the CDC Director’s External Laboratory Safety Workgroup, which examined biosafety practices of the CDC, the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) following high-profile laboratory incidents in federal agencies. He was on the 2016 Working Group assessing US biosecurity on behalf of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology (PCAST). He has served on committees of the Defense Science Board, the National Academies of Sciences, and the Institute of Medicine, and in an advisory capacity to NIH, BARDA, DHS, and DARPA.
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Dr. Inglesby completed his internal medicine and infectious diseases training at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, where he also served as Assistant Chief of Service in 1996-97. Dr. Inglesby received his MD from Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons and his BA from Georgetown University. He sees patients in a weekly infectious disease clinic.
Suicides in the Great Depression
kane
EOG master
IWishIWasAPro
EOG Master
I just have to imagine when its all said and done, out of the million pages, there will be some decent form of relief for small business owners who temporarily closed or even closed permanently.
kane
EOG master
We can listen to what this guy thinks, or we can listen to what Trump thinks, it's an individual choice. Call me crazy, but I think I'll go with this guy
It's too bad that business interruption insurance doesn't cover this type of thing.
kane
EOG master
I would be for that, but provided there's total transparency so we know where the money goes and who gets it, and I don't want Trump making those decisions, it has to be bi-partisan
They came up with a by-partisan bill. Then the dems wanted new green deal provisions.
Chi_Archie
EOG Veteran
one week ago, exactly.
I wonder if there is some like exponential component to this or if its just like the flu
I wonder if we should look at each day's numbers and assume that that is the peak
post #476
I had this same discussion with someone I know. They just defaulted to the health official. Many health officials are experts in their own area, but like most specialized professions, live in vacuum. Economists have a bigger picture view.
This is what he said,Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick suggests elderly should die to save economy from coronavirus
blueline
EOG Master
he's going to do whatever he thinks is best for his self interest period
Dan Patrick is 69 years old. He also said a failing economy is worse than coronavirus.
DOW up 2112.98..... 11.37%
FairWarning
Bells Beer Connoisseur
Yes, I just assumed it did.
Wisconsin put in a 30 day lock down. Crazy
Chi_Archie
EOG Veteran
should put something in the bill for this
mr merlin
EOG Master
My mom died 3 years ago, her cremation cost about $8K. They really get you on the urns, etc. My mom had a plot to be buried in so her urn is placed in a container. You can pick a heavy duty almost tupperwear box for maybe $250, or get a nice wood container for $450. it's hard to put your mom in a tupperwear bin even if you'll never see it again.
mr merlin
EOG Master
Yup, pure insanity, all because of milwaukee and madison, so 100's of thousands of workers elsewhere are out of work for nothing.
Sol Diablo
House of Heat
should put something in the bill for this
What about the burial plot? Looks like an obvious omission from the estimated cost of a burial funeral.
Not all health experts are in agreement. The Corona Virus is so highly contagious the once it is in an area social distancing wont completely stop it anyway; so you have to weigh the economic damage to business and consider different strategies. It has to spread to a certain percent of the population (in China 1 or 2%) before the natural immunization effects weaken it. It is in remission in China and Korea where it hit first.
NY (4,790) has almost as many cases as Italy (5,249) . Those leaving NY are spreading the virus.
They shouldn't let anyone in or out of NY.
Total deaths/ 1m population.
113 Italy
64 Spain
23 Iran
17 France
16 Netherlands
14 Switzerland
11 Belgium
6 UK
6 Denmark
4 Sweden
3 Austria
3 Portugal
2 US
113 Italy
64 Spain
23 Iran
17 France
16 Netherlands
14 Switzerland
11 Belgium
6 UK
6 Denmark
4 Sweden
3 Austria
3 Portugal
2 US
SlipperyPete
EOG Dedicated
Its already everywhere
Come on Merlin-I know we’ve had our banter back and forth but I know you’re better than this. There’s a lot of tribalism in politics but I don’t truly believe there’s a lot of people rooting for more illnesses and deaths.
There’s always a few sick bastards on both sides of the party aisle and I will always call out any of them regardless of affiliation.
Makes me proud to be a fellow Sun Devil alum
SlipperyPete
EOG Dedicated
USA
RECOVERED:1%
NAME CONFIRMED CHANGES TODAY DECEASED CHANGES TODAY RECOVERED SERIOUS
TOTAL 54,141↑ 11,085 (25.74%) 789↑ 222 (39.15%)35450
If it multiplies like that for the next two weeks, we are screwed.
Wouldnt that mean like 1500 deaths per day?
New York might flatten but the rest will probably pick up
Corona virus might solve the entitlement problem for us
RECOVERED:1%
NAME CONFIRMED CHANGES TODAY DECEASED CHANGES TODAY RECOVERED SERIOUS
TOTAL 54,141↑ 11,085 (25.74%) 789↑ 222 (39.15%)35450
If it multiplies like that for the next two weeks, we are screwed.
Wouldnt that mean like 1500 deaths per day?
New York might flatten but the rest will probably pick up
Corona virus might solve the entitlement problem for us
USA
RECOVERED:1%
NAME CONFIRMED CHANGES TODAY DECEASED CHANGES TODAY RECOVERED SERIOUS
TOTAL 54,141↑ 11,085 (25.74%) 789↑ 222 (39.15%)35450
If it multiplies like that for the next two weeks, we are screwed.
Wouldnt that mean like 1500 deaths per day?
New York might flatten but the rest will probably pick up
Corona virus might solve the entitlement problem for us
I don't know how anyone can make projections when the data out of China is totally flawed.
SlipperyPete
EOG Dedicated
I meant to post the US numbers only
SlipperyPete
EOG Dedicated
With advisers like Kudlow, Kushner, i dont think so
SlipperyPete
EOG Dedicated
I think Trump has it wrong about his reelection chances.
Right now he thinks its connected to the well being of the economy. I dont think that is necessary anymore.
If he can keep his approval rating up thru this, however long it takes, that would be enough.
But he has to make the correct choice
If he opens back up too soon, which it looks like he wants to he WILL cause unspeakable damage to the US--economy AND people
If there is gonna be images of overflowing hospitals, he will lose the independents.
The MAGGAts will stick by him no matter what
Right now he thinks its connected to the well being of the economy. I dont think that is necessary anymore.
If he can keep his approval rating up thru this, however long it takes, that would be enough.
But he has to make the correct choice
If he opens back up too soon, which it looks like he wants to he WILL cause unspeakable damage to the US--economy AND people
If there is gonna be images of overflowing hospitals, he will lose the independents.
The MAGGAts will stick by him no matter what