Predict the FINAL NUMBER of confirmed Coronavirus cases/deaths in the U.S. (Predictions ONLY)

kane

EOG master
The two worst predictions are from Dell and Rail, not coincidently they're also the two biggest conspiracy theorists
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Its because they have tons of chinese and an abudance of other unclean immigrants in high density, stress amd weak lungs from chain smoking
Cmon rail, yes the chinese didn;t help, but NY's high population density, along with mass transit that almost everyone uses, is the primary reason.

For those very reasons, other areas of the country will not get that bad, low density, no mass transit - very few exposures.
 

SlipperyPete

EOG Dedicated
There's a story about a group of people in KY who haled a "Coronavirus party", one of them just tested positive, wish I could have seen the looks on the faces of the other party goers when they found out one of them got it

There are a lot of COVIDIOTS out there in red neck country
 

kane

EOG master
Cmon rail, yes the chinese didn;t help, but NY's high population density, along with mass transit that almost everyone uses, is the primary reason.

For those very reasons, other areas of the country will not get that bad, low density, no mass transit - very few exposures.

Rail's a moron. If we could have gone back in time a couple months and knew the pandemic was coming, and we all had to guess which state(s) would get the worst of it, how many here would have guessed NY? 60%? 70%? 100%? Of course it has nothing to do with how many Chinese live there or how much NYers smoke
 

Valuist

EOG Master
Worldwide now 2.5 months in and we are at 17k deaths, which includes countries with inferior healthcare like Italy. So worldwide in 2.5 months we are at about half the amount of US deaths from flu in an average year.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Rail's a moron. If we could have gone back in time a couple months and knew the pandemic was coming, and we all had to guess which state(s) would get the worst of it, how many here would have guessed NY? 60%? 70%? 100%? Of course it has nothing to do with how many Chinese live there or how much NYers smoke
In big cites like NY, people just going about their normal lives indirectly come in contact with thousands of others(walking the same sidewalks/hallways/elevators, touching handrails, passing each other everywhere). In smaller less dense cities, especially where people drive themselves, people contact far less people indirectly, and most importantly they tend to come in contact with the same people(not many new ones). that makes all the difference.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
Worldwide now 2.5 months in and we are at 17k deaths, which includes countries with inferior healthcare like Italy. So worldwide in 2.5 months we are at about half the amount of US deaths from flu in an average year.


is flu growing exponentially?

is flu gonna hit the hospitals all at once and kill nurses and doctors?


amazing how people can't read a simple graph
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
There are a lot of COVIDIOTS out there in red neck country
Not really, getting young people infected is a good thing, in 2 weeks they're past it, the system is not overwhelmed right now almost everywhere, every non serious infection right now is good.

The same number of people will get this virus no matter what we do.
 

kane

EOG master
Not really, getting young people infected is a good thing, in 2 weeks they're past it, the system is not overwhelmed right now almost everywhere, every non serious infection right now is good.

The same number of people will get this virus no matter what we do.

Except young people are the group least likely to social distance, young people are more likely to mingle with others and spread the virus. Try keeping a 20 somethnig quarantined for 2 weeks, not gonna happen
 

Valuist

EOG Master
is flu growing exponentially?

is flu gonna hit the hospitals all at once and kill nurses and doctors?


amazing how people can't read a simple graph

It's not about the flu or a graph. It's about the fear the media has pushed.

If the contest was now? I would revise down my death numbers.
 
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Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
It's not about the flu or a graph. It's about the fear the media has pushed.

when then why the hell do you keep bringing up the flu

and why do you continue to not understand that we are seeing exponential growth that will kill our doctors and nurses?

our president said we were in a war.

would you want us to send our soldiers into war without enough weapons and equipment? would you tell all the tactical support and supply chains that the war was just hype?

let's just listen to the CDC and experts for a bit and let them interpret the data in light of what the know and don't know about the virus.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
a reminder of the numbers of our most technical soldiers on the battle field

2016 United States Physicians

953,695

Under 30- 16,519 1.9%
30-39 -184,120 21.7%
40-49 -214,595 25.2%
50-59 -215,541 22.5%
60-69 -138,815 16.3%
70+ -75,627 8.9%
 

Valuist

EOG Master
when then why the hell do you keep bringing up the flu

and why do you continue to not understand that we are seeing exponential growth that will kill our doctors and nurses?

our president said we were in a war.

would you want us to send our soldiers into war without enough weapons and equipment? would you tell all the tactical support and supply chains that the war was just hype?

let's just listen to the CDC and experts for a bit and let them interpret the data in light of what the know and don't know about the virus.

The flu is a reference point. Right or wrong, we as a country seem to accept the fact 35k or so die from flu. The flu never shut down the country.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
The flu is a reference point. Right or wrong, we as a country seem to accept the fact 35k or so die from flu. The flu never shut down the country.
When our deaths peak, likely sometime in may(several thousand a day), we should be a good 2 weeks past peak infections. So the worst day we have will really be a time for celebration.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
The flu is a reference point. Right or wrong, we as a country seem to accept the fact 35k or so die from flu. The flu never shut down the country.

we aren't shutting the country down for deaths. Whoever said that?

we are shutting it down to avoid a hospital, health care, doctor shortage, nurse shortage that could kill millions in the next decade.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
before the virus. here's the situation for an aging and fat and sick nation

The United States will see a shortage of nearly 122,000 physicians in both primary and specialty care by 2032, according to 2019 data published by the AAMC (Association of American Medical Colleges). Doctor shortages could limit or delay access to healthcare, which would pose a real risk to patients.Jul 24, 2019
 

blueline

EOG Master
a reminder of the numbers of our most technical soldiers on the battle field

2016 United States Physicians

953,695

Under 30- 16,519 1.9%
30-39 -184,120 21.7%
40-49 -214,595 25.2%
50-59 -215,541 22.5%
60-69 -138,815 16.3%
70+ -75,627 8.9%
Only give masks to doctors under 50yo
 

kane

EOG master
In big cites like NY, people just going about their normal lives indirectly come in contact with thousands of others(walking the same sidewalks/hallways/elevators, touching handrails, passing each other everywhere). In smaller less dense cities, especially where people drive themselves, people contact far less people indirectly, and most importantly they tend to come in contact with the same people(not many new ones). that makes all the difference.

I agree, it's not a shock that NY right now has the worst of it, it was easy to predict
 

Valuist

EOG Master
So Rail and Raiders, and now myself, state we don't believe we approach the death numbers the media and many are projected. Maybe we will be wrong.

I don't think that will be the case.
 

SlipperyPete

EOG Dedicated
before the virus. here's the situation for an aging and fat and sick nation

The United States will see a shortage of nearly 122,000 physicians in both primary and specialty care by 2032, according to 2019 data published by the AAMC (Association of American Medical Colleges). Doctor shortages could limit or delay access to healthcare, which would pose a real risk to patients.Jul 24, 2019


The doctor shortage is by design
 

kane

EOG master
So Rail and Raiders, and now myself, state we don't believe we approach the death numbers the media and many are projected. Maybe we will be wrong.

I don't think that will be the case.

Rail predicted 1,284 deaths, Raiders predicted 1,500, both if them will be way short when it's all said and done, You predicted 50,000, you were nowhere cose to Raiders and Rail
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
So Rail and Raiders, and now myself, state we don't believe we approach the death numbers the media and many are projected. Maybe we will be wrong.

I don't think that will be the case.
Huh, you dont believe the numbers, or that they will get bad?
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
If no cure in the next 3 months or so... we will fly past 50K with "ease"

Its not even a big number in the land of 350 million
In may alone, which will hopefully be the peak month, i would expect between 50-100K deaths in the US. And it could be 2-3 times that.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I dont know we if we can "write off" 3k deaths per day.
We cant stop it, the mn gov shut us down today, he showed a bunch of charts, etc, but he said outright no matter if we do nothing, or do everything, the same number of infections will occur. We are only attempting to spread them out.

If the death rate is 1% and 100 million get it - that means 1 million dead, it's all math.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
as the weather warms up this should start to kill off some of the virus.
Probably somewhat, the drugs may cut deaths as well, and the virus may mutate to be less deadly, all those things likely will happen. it's still going to be ugly for at least 2 more months.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Probably somewhat, the drugs may cut deaths as well, and the virus may mutate to be less deadly, all those things likely will happen. it's still going to be ugly for at least 2 more months.
saw some claims that the virus can stay active for 17 days.

also people that have it and have fought it off could donate their plasma to help doctors develop vaccines and counters faster.

have to believe that as deaths increase more and more solutions are going to appear.

my issue is there are so many dumb people this could keep spreading because of the low IQ out in society.
 

railbird

EOG Master
a reminder of the numbers of our most technical soldiers on the battle field

2016 United States Physicians

953,695

Under 30- 16,519 1.9%
30-39 -184,120 21.7%
40-49 -214,595 25.2%
50-59 -215,541 22.5%
60-69 -138,815 16.3%
70+ -75,627 8.9%

waay too many lawyers, too few docs. too many real estate agents too few docs. start branding docs and nurses as 1st responder heros instead of military and police. kids crybaby about length of study to become a doc
 
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