CNN is definitely a problem

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
People that dont file taxes should not be allowed to vote.

Property owners should have their votes count as 2 votes.

You should have an ID to vote.

How are these points debatable?
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Wisconsin cases are going to sky rocket in the coming weeks simply due to small areas have been conducting free testing sites for people who have experienced some symptoms.

But the death rate is going to fall to a manageable rate that will be something we work with.

Onward and upward.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Voting should be mandatory....
No.

I agree with others that voting when you know nothing about a person's ideas isn't a good thing.

This leads to people just voting democratic or republican.

I'd support eliminating both parties.

Allow the person to stand on their merit instead be supported by a party.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
People that dont file taxes should not be allowed to vote.

Property owners should have their votes count as 2 votes.

You should have an ID to vote.

How are these points debatable?

If everyone is created equal, why would a property owner count as two votes? No opinion on the tax correlation to the right to vote, and yes on having a ID to vote. That can be made so easy, just make the drivers license or state ID card number the Voter ID.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
If everyone is created equal, why would a property owner count as two votes? No opinion on the tax correlation to the right to vote, and yes on having a ID to vote. That can be made so easy, just make the drivers license or state ID card number the Voter ID.
From a standpoint that they are paying more to the community through real estate taxes. Their money is supporting schools and municipalities which should have a bit more weight.

In terms of being created equal.

Do you think the opinion of a single 18 year hold has the same weight as someone in their 40's?

Yet the voting process says yes.
 
From a standpoint that they are paying more to the community through real estate taxes. Their money is supporting schools and municipalities which should have a bit more weight.

In terms of being created equal.

Do you think the opinion of a single 18 year hold has the same weight as someone in their 40's?

Yet the voting process says yes.

Our system is already unfairly stacked for the wealthy and you want to give them more power?
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Qq
From a standpoint that they are paying more to the community through real estate taxes. Their money is supporting schools and municipalities which should have a bit more weight.

In terms of being created equal.

Do you think the opinion of a single 18 year hold has the same weight as someone in their 40's?

Yet the voting process says yes.

If the people don’t vote, they have no say. Should 1%ers get 100x the voting power because they have more property taxes? That is the beauty of this country, and the electoral college particularly- it gives everyone, every state more of a voice. Your scenario is what I fear more - people buying votes and influence because they have more.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Our system is already unfairly stacked for the wealthy and you want to give them more power?
why should people who live off the system have the same voice as the people that pay for the system?

I didn't say you get a vote for every piece of property you own but just that their voice should have more of a say.

Anybody can own property.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
why should people who live off the system have the same voice as the people that pay for the system?

I didn't say you get a vote for every piece of property you own but just that their voice should have more of a say.

Anybody can own property.
Anyone can live off the system now also thanks to the economy.

2/3 of NYC residents rent.
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Thanks for the link top. At the bottom of the article the AOC rep states the collection has been contested because they believe it is an error in accounting by the state. I’d be inclined to believe that because 2,000 is a pittance in relation to the PR the story brings.



it has to be an error. She makes 177k Year plus whatever else they get with benefits. Unless she went across the river to fan duel and had the 49ers the last few minutes in feb. :giggle:
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
gen flynn, innocent and free....

bigdummy with another loser.....lol


Ex-judge says Dumb Alfie's hero isn't innocent and free! Bill Barr's push to have the Flynn charges dropped was a gross abuse of power. Oh my!


Ex-judge says push to dismiss Flynn case is gross abuse of power



WASHINGTON (AP) — A former federal judge appointed to review the Justice Department’s motion to dismiss criminal charges against President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn said there was evidence of a “gross abuse” of prosecutorial power and that the request should be denied.

Former U.S. District Judge John Gleeson said in a filing Wednesday that the government “has engaged in highly irregular conduct to benefit a political ally of the President.” He urged the judge handling the case to deny the motion and argued that Flynn had committed perjury.

Gleeson was appointed by U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan in a special role to weigh in on the case, but it will ultimately be up to Sullivan and potentially an appeals court whether to accept the Justice Department’s motion to drop the case.

Flynn pleaded guilty, as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, to lying to the FBI about conversations with the Russian ambassador to the United States during the presidential transition period.

In January, Flynn filed court papers to withdraw his guilty plea, saying federal prosecutors had acted in “bad faith” and broken their end of the bargain when they sought prison time for him.

Initially, prosecutors said Flynn was entitled to avoid prison time because he had cooperated extensively with the government, but the relationship with the retired Army lieutenant general grew increasingly contentious in the months before he withdrew his plea, particularly after he hired a new set of lawyers who raised misconduct allegations against the government.

But the Justice Department filed a motion last month to dismiss the case, saying the FBI had insufficient basis to question Flynn in the first place and that statements he made during the interview were not material to the broader counterintelligence investigation into ties between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Officials have said they sought to dismiss the case in the interest of justice, upon the recommendation of a U.S. attorney who had been appointed by Attorney General William Barr to review the handling of the Flynn investigation.

Gleeson slammed the Justice Department's motion to dismiss the case, saying the arguments from prosecutors were “riddled” with legal errors.

“The Government’s ostensible grounds for seeking dismissal are conclusively disproven by its own briefs filed earlier in this very proceeding,” Gleeson wrote. “They contradict and ignore this Court’s prior orders, which constitute law of the case. They are riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact. And they depart from positions that the Government has taken in other cases.”

Sullivan also asked Gleeson to explore whether he should hold Flynn in “criminal contempt for perjury.”

As part of his plea, Flynn had to admit in court, under oath, that he lied to the FBI and violated federal law. It is a crime to lie under oath in court.

In the filing, Gleeson said it was clear that Flynn had committed perjury and should be punished but that it should be a factor considered at his sentencing, as opposed to additional charges being brought against him.

“This approach — rather than a separate prosecution for perjury or contempt — aligns with the Court’s intent to treat this case, and this Defendant, in the same way it would any other," Gleeson wrote.

Gleeson was a federal judge in New York for more than two decades. Before becoming a judge, he had been a federal prosecutor and handled numerous high-profile cases, including the case against late Gambino crime family boss John Gotti. He’s been in private practice since 2016.

A federal appeals court is set to hear arguments Friday about Sullivan’s refusal to immediately dismiss the case. Flynn’s attorneys have asked the Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit to step in and force Sullivan to end to the case. They have also accused the judge of being biased, arguing he overstepped his authority when he did not immediately grant the Justice Department’s request to dismiss the case.

Sullivan has separately scheduled arguments on the dismissal motion for July 16.
 
Thanks for the link top. At the bottom of the article the AOC rep states the collection has been contested because they believe it is an error in accounting by the state. I’d be inclined to believe that because 2,000 is a pittance in relation to the PR the story brings.

If the lying crooks Schiff, Pelosi and Clinton aren't getting bad press from the left, AOC isn't going to get bad press.
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
Like these right wing racist and conservative fucks have a clue. Fucken racist says Antifa is everywhere and freaks out because a black guy has a funeral that wouldn't be afforded to his mom.
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
His brother being the NY gov.

You left out dad, Mario Cuomo, former Governor of New York. Powerful democrat. Of course racist right winger Fair Warning will smear the Cuomo family. He was raised to feel threatened by democrats, granddad being the racist RepubliCon Lt. Gov. of IL.
 
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