Don’t fly into Michigan with any cash. Adolph Whitmer will steal it and there's nothing you can do

Crazy Pete

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New Michigan Law Lets Cops Seize Cash At Airports, No Crime Required

Although summer travel is heating up, anyone traveling with cash may want to think twice about flying in and out of Michigan.
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Late last month, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed two bills (HB 4631 and HB 4632) that expand civil forfeiture at airports, making it much easier for law enforcement to seize—and permanently keep—cash and other valuables from travelers.

“Allowing authorities to take air travelers’ cash without a criminal conviction, simply because they have a large sum of money, is a blatant violation of their rights,” said Institute for Justice Senior Attorney Dan Alban, who co-leads IJ’s National Initiative to End Forfeiture Abuse. “This will lead to innocent people losing their money and is a massive step in the wrong direction by Michigan lawmakers.”
 
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Rockfish

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State and Federal authorities have been doing these cash grabs from people who don't even get arrested for at least 25 years.
it is sickening to read some of these cash grab stories.
it is disgusting that the local police departments get to keep a large percentage of what they steal from people. Talk about an incentive to do these cash grabs (stealing) from people with no evidence of a crime or any wrong doings. War on drugs baby. Just sickening.
 
winkyduck

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TYVM Morgan William!!!
Crazy Pete said:
www.forbes.com

New Michigan Law Lets Cops Seize Cash At Airports, No Crime Required

Although summer travel is heating up, anyone traveling with cash may want to think twice about flying in and out of Michigan.
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Late last month, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed two bills (HB 4631 and HB 4632) that expand civil forfeiture at airports, making it much easier for law enforcement to seize—and permanently keep—cash and other valuables from travelers.

“Allowing authorities to take air travelers’ cash without a criminal conviction, simply because they have a large sum of money, is a blatant violation of their rights,” said Institute for Justice Senior Attorney Dan Alban, who co-leads IJ’s National Initiative to End Forfeiture Abuse. “This will lead to innocent people losing their money and is a massive step in the wrong direction by Michigan lawmakers.”
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BULL-FUCKING-SHIT!

I flew into Detroit Metro on Tuesday Night (June 21) with a decent chunk of cash in my wallet and no one said/did anything to me.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE Gretchen!
 
Bushay

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13 of the Wolverine Watchman involved. 4 were charged, 2 acquitted, the other 2 will be recharged. With all the facts this time. One lone juror held out or they all would be in prison the rest of their lives.
 
Bushay

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Crazy Pete said:
www.forbes.com

New Michigan Law Lets Cops Seize Cash At Airports, No Crime Required

Although summer travel is heating up, anyone traveling with cash may want to think twice about flying in and out of Michigan.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com



Late last month, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed two bills (HB 4631 and HB 4632) that expand civil forfeiture at airports, making it much easier for law enforcement to seize—and permanently keep—cash and other valuables from travelers.

“Allowing authorities to take air travelers’ cash without a criminal conviction, simply because they have a large sum of money, is a blatant violation of their rights,” said Institute for Justice Senior Attorney Dan Alban, who co-leads IJ’s National Initiative to End Forfeiture Abuse. “This will lead to innocent people losing their money and is a massive step in the wrong direction by Michigan lawmakers.”
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You left out a good chunk of the other side of that story. This is done at every airport across the country and 95% of the confiscated money is drug money. Of course, it's wrong to target the average Joe that can get caught up in one of these. The story claimed they took $40K from a woman without charging her and made her sue to get her money back, which she did minus $4k. But also she had spent time in prison for drug possession in the past and the dogs hit on the smell of weed on the money she was concealing. This is a law used by almost every state and Whitmer had just introduced a revised edition of this law that was passed by a bipartisan Michigan Senate with only 3 congressmen voting against it. lol. That damn Gretchen Whitmer. The nerve of her!!!

I hate when those pesky details come to light.
 
Bushay

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railbird said:
It was a far left liberal group called the fbi
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Read it and weep.

Suspects[edit]​

The suspects were tied to a paramilitary militia group that called themselves the Wolverine Watchmen. The group was co-founded by suspects Pete Musico and Joseph Morrison; the latter is considered the group's "commander".[32][33][34] An NBC News investigation into the suspects' social media profiles found links between their ideologies and those of the broader boogaloo movement.[35] The Wolverine Watchmen group had been recruiting members on Facebook from November 2019 until June 2020, when Facebook began purging all boogaloo-related material.[36]

The suspects named in the federal indictment, charged with conspiracy to commit kidnapping, were Adam Fox, Ty Garbin, Barry Croft, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris, and Brandon Caserta. Five of the men were Michigan residents, while the sixth, Croft, was from Delaware.[37][38][39] Adam Fox and Barry Croft were accused of being the ringleaders of the plot.[40] The suspects charged with state crimes, including providing material support for terrorist acts, firearm crimes, and gang membership, were Wolverine Watchmen founders Musico and Morrison, along with Shawn Fix, Eric Molitor, Michael Null, William Null, and Paul Bellar.[41] At least four of the 13 suspects had attended prior rallies at the Michigan State Capitol.[42] On October 15, a fourteenth suspect, Brian Higgins of Wisconsin, was charged at the state level with material support of an act of terrorism.[6] Garbin pleaded guilty on January 27, 2021 and agreed to testify against his five alleged co-conspirators.[7]

 
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Biographical sketches and motives[edit]​

  • Joseph M. Morrison[43] is considered the leader of the Wolverine Watchmen.[44] His home in Munith, which he shared with Musico, was allegedly used as a training site, according to Michigan Assistant Attorney General Gregory Townsend. Photographs of the home show a Confederate battle flag and a variation of the U.S. flag with alternating, vertical red and white stripes and a circle of stars surrounding the words "Liberty or Death".[32][45] Morrison's neighbors told The Daily Beast that the home's residents were "disrespectful" and said large groups regularly gathered there on weekends, whereupon gunfire would be heard.[32] His online alias was "Boogaloo Bunyan".[45] Morrison had served in the U.S. Marine Corps since 2015, most recently with the 4th Marine Logistics Group in Battle Creek, Michigan,[46] with the rank of lance corporal; he was discharged from the Marine Corps Reserve on October 8, the same day as his arrest, for reasons unrelated to the criminal charges.[43]
  • Adam Fox, the alleged mastermind of the plot, was born Adam Waggoner but changed his last name to his mother's maiden name in 2014.[47] He had been living in the basement of his former employer, a vacuum repair shop in Grand Rapids. Fox received permission for that living arrangement from the shop's owner who felt empathy towards Fox, as Fox was homeless and had dogs. The basement was allegedly used to hold one of the group's meetings.[48][49] Fox posted a YouTube video in June, mentioning Whitmer's handling of the pandemic as one of his motives for the plot.[2] According to his employer, Fox espoused anti-police and anti-government views, along with support for the boogaloo movement, and had recently become worried about the U.S. becoming a communist country and Democratic politicians taking away his guns.[48] Fox had previously been a member of another militia group called the Michigan Home Guard, but he was kicked out due to "rage issues" and threatening other members on social media.[16]
  • Ty Garbin was raised in Wyandotte but had been living in a manufactured home park in eastern Livingston County at the time of his arrest. His father is an Army veteran.[50] Garbin was a licensed aircraft mechanic and had previously worked for SkyWest Airlines.[47] He met Fox at a Second Amendment rally in Lansing. Garbin allegedly cased the governor's vacation home at night, texted about blowing up a bridge to slow police down, offered to paint his boat for "night fishing" as part of the kidnapping mission on the lake, and had the ability to manufacture guns. His lawyer mentioned he had no criminal record.[50]
  • Barry Croft regularly posted violent messages on his social media accounts.[51] These accounts depicted him wearing a tricorne and a sweatshirt with an insignia associated with the Three Percenters militia group; he was later identified as the second-in-command of its Wisconsin branch.[52] The FBI identified him as a national leader of the organization in January 2021.[53] He expressed support for the Russia investigation origins counter-narrative and opposition to the country's current immigration policy, and he believed the investigations into President Trump constituted an "uprising".[35][54] However, he also included Trump's name in a grievance-filled hit-list of politicians that he wanted to hang, which he posted on Facebook in late June.[55] He was living in Bear, Delaware, at the time of his arrest.[56] Croft was arrested multiple times from 1994 to 1996 for assault and burglary. He was convicted in 1997 for possessing a gun in the commission of a felony and spent three years in prison. In April 2019, Croft was pardoned for the conviction, as well as the prior assault and burglary charges, by Delaware Governor John Carney.[38][56] According to recordings of the alleged plotters, Croft claimed he had been granted permission from God to commit murder.[54]


 
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  • Kaleb Franks had allegedly spent $4,000 on equipment during the planning, including a helmet and night-vision goggles. He also allegedly brought a rifle with a suppressor to one of the training exercises. According to his LinkedIn profile, he studied clinical psychology at Washtenaw Community College and was employed as a peer recovery coach at an addiction treatment center in Waterford. He had previously battled an addiction to heroin but has been sober since 2013, according to his lawyer. He was convicted in 2011 for cocaine possession and in 2013 for second-degree home invasion. He served nine months in jail and two years under the jurisdiction of drug courts.[47][57] He testified that he was motivated by a desire to die; because much of his family had died, he "didn't want to live anymore" and secretly hoped to be killed by police in a shootout.[58]
  • Daniel Harris later acquitted[59], served in the U.S. Marine Corps as a rifleman from 2014 to June 2019, most recently at Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune in Jacksonville, North Carolina.[46][60] Harris had been deployed to Japan and had reached the rank of corporal. He was awarded the Humanitarian Service Medal, the Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal, and the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal. He worked as a security guard at two different companies after being discharged.[47] In June, he attended a Black Lives Matter rally in his hometown of Lake Orion and was interviewed by a local newspaper, where he said he was "upset about the killing of George Floyd and police violence."[61] The group allegedly met at his home on August 23 to discuss the plot.[62][63][64][65]
  • Brandon Caserta later acquitted[59], was depicted wearing a Hawaiian-style shirt associated with the boogaloo movement in a TikTok video; and on Facebook, he praised Kyle Rittenhouse, a civilian who shot three protesters, killing two, during unrest in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in August. Caserta was also a COVID-19 denier and supported the QAnon conspiracy theory;[66] however, in one video, he criticized President Trump and called him a tyrant.[67] His belief system apparently became more extreme following Whitmer's implementation of the statewide lockdown. His social media activity originally consisted of posts about comedy shows and podcasts, motivational quotes, and selfies; but following the lockdown, he began "liking" posts about conspiracy theories regarding Bill Gates, as well as memes about hogtying police officers.[35]
  • Pete Musico was active on YouTube, where he posted video blogs against taxes, gun control, and the so-called deep state. A video posted in 2019, entitled "Gretchen Whitmer Interview", depicted him railing against her policies around automobile ownership and promised he would interview Whitmer in person in a later video. Musico was also active on Gab, where he promoted the unfounded claim that there is an ongoing campaign to kill white people in South Africa. He also followed the accounts of Proud Boys organizer Joe Biggs and InfoWars personality Owen Shroyer. On Twitter, he expressed support for Trump and conspiracy theories regarding Bill and Hillary Clinton, and the high presence of mercury in vaccines.[32] Musico's attorney said he was eventually kicked out of the Wolverine Watchmen because he was too "soft" and wouldn't commit to violence.[68]
  • Shawn Fix had allegedly hosted Wolverine Watchmen meetings at his home in Belleville to discuss the plot. The house's yard had Donald Trump presidential campaign signs and a Gadsden flag. He was working as a truck driver and had more than a dozen driving infractions from 2007 to 2018. Fix had been charged with assault and battery and aggravated assault in 2012, but the victim dropped the charges in 2013.[47]
  • Eric Molitor had posted support of the boogaloo movement on his Facebook profile. He also spoke positively about Kyle Rittenhouse and the St. Louis gun-toting controversy, along with anti-government sentiment. He had worked for a company that provides respiratory and ballistic protection to the military and first responders. In January 2020, he gave the Wexford County Commission a proposal to make it a Second Amendment sanctuary county, which passed unanimously the next month.[47]

 
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  • Michael and William Null, twin brothers, allegedly helped conduct surveillance on Whitmer's vacation home.[69] They were also former members of another militia group called Michigan Liberty Militia.[16] They were photographed at a protest held by Michigan United for Liberty, a right-wing group protesting against Whitmer's COVID-19 lockdown orders, at the Michigan State Capitol on April 30.[70] William also attended another anti-lockdown rally in May, as well as Black Lives Matter rallies in Grand Rapids and Flint, according to Barry County Sheriff Dar Leaf, though Leaf also said William vented about the movement. William was also photographed at a February 2017 protest against President Trump's Executive Order 13769, held by the Equality Caucus of Genesee County in Flint. He and members of the Michigan Liberty Militia were counter-protesting while wearing military fatigues, carrying firearms, and waving a Gadsden flag. William also allegedly made threats against the protesters on Facebook.[63][71]
  • Paul Bellar, who was arrested in Columbia, South Carolina, where he had moved from Milford over the summer after an eviction, was allegedly responsible for designing the tactical training exercises used by the Wolverine Watchmen, which included the use of firearms, medical treatment, and other tasks.[45][72] Bellar's former neighbor in Milford said the pandemic caused Bellar to lose his job and called him a "very angry person" and said he threatened her with a gun after a run-in with him.[73] According to Bellar's father, he trained for the U.S. Army at Fort Jackson for a year before being discharged in 2019 with a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder.[74]
  • Brian Higgins was a resident of Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin, when he was arrested on October 15.[75] He is alleged to have provided his night-vision goggles and dashcam to help conduct surveillance on Whitmer's home.[76]
 
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Bushay said:
You left out a good chunk of the other side of that story. This is done at every airport across the country and 95% of the confiscated money is drug money. Of course, it's wrong to target the average Joe that can get caught up in one of these. The story claimed they took $40K from a woman without charging her and made her sue to get her money back, which she did minus $4k. But also she had spent time in prison for drug possession in the past and the dogs hit on the smell of weed on the money she was concealing. This is a law used by almost every state and Whitmer had just introduced a revised edition of this law that was passed by a bipartisan Michigan Senate with only 3 congressmen voting against it. lol. That damn Gretchen Whitmer. The nerve of her!!!

I hate when those pesky details come to light.
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You're happy she's sponsored more legislation that makes it easier for citizens to have their money taken because "well some other states do it too"? LOL.

And you wanted to highlight this particular case to support your position because it's such a slam dunk?

She had to sue to get it back and even then it cost her 4k dollars. How long does it take you to hustle a 4k profit on the Bushay boxes? A while I bet.

Certainly too long and too much effort to just give away because the government decided to seize your money.

And that's a "win". Fortunately she had the resources to sue, win the case, and because of that ended up only having 4K stolen from her. She could have lost the entire 40k.

And that doesn't even account for the time and aggravation of this whole thing. This process isn't fast, certainly not a week or month long kind of thing.

And who knows where or who that money was for. Her kid to get in college? A parent of her's urgently needing health care? Property she was planning on buying?

By the time she sued to win her own money back it was a lot more expensive no matter what it was for.

They take it unfairly, you just hire attorneys, sit around for a long while and hope you win so it's only a 4k loss of your hard earned money......

Yeah Gretchen is an American hero!! Thank you for explaining those pesky details.

We move on.
 
Bushay

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Patrick McIrish said:
You're happy she's sponsored more legislation that makes it easier for citizens to have their money taken because "well some other states do it too"? LOL.

And you wanted to highlight this particular case to support your position because it's such a slam dunk?

She had to sue to get it back and even then it cost her 4k dollars. How long does it take you to hustle a 4k profit on the Bushay boxes? A while I bet.

Certainly too long and too much effort to just give away because the government decided to seize your money.

And that's a "win". Fortunately she had the resources to sue, win the case, and because of that ended up only having 4K stolen from her. She could have lost the entire 40k.

And that doesn't even account for the time and aggravation of this whole thing. This process isn't fast, certainly not a week or month long kind of thing.

And who knows where or who that money was for. Her kid to get in college? A parent of her's urgently needing health care? Property she was planning on buying?

By the time she sued to win her own money back it was a lot more expensive no matter what it was for.

They take it unfairly, you just hire attorneys, sit around for a long while and hope you win so it's only a 4k loss of your hard earned money......

Yeah Gretchen is an American hero!! Thank you for explaining those pesky details.

We move on.
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Hey Stiffy!

Is that what I said? lol. Please quote me saying anything close to what you're claiming.

You wasted that whole paragraph to take a shot at me and completely miss quoted me.

Way to check in to a conversation you haven't a clue about.

When going through life a stiff, I guess integrity isn't that far up the list of things to prioritize.

And yes, we move on after exposing your stiff ass! lol.
 
Crazy Pete

Crazy Pete

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This does not affect -EV sports bettors, but for real life AP’s, this is a big problem. I know of several real APs who have run into similar problems throughout the country, having legitimate gambling winnings confiscated.
No, drugs were not involved.
It’s not innocent until proven guilty, it’s not guilty until proven innocent. It’s guilty as soon as you’re charged, and the cost of trying to reverse the charge is extremely expensive & time consuming.
U ok with that?!?

Well over 90% of bills in circulation have traces of drugs on it. If a dog sniffed through the few remaining $$ you didn’t lose at the sports book, there would 💯 be a 🐶 hit, guaranteed.
These are Gestspo-type tactics that hit real AP’s hard. Odd you’re so supportive of it. But then again, losers like you don’t have to worry about it.

Gestapo Gretchen was probably the worst Covid lockdown monster too.
Sounds like you’d be more comfortable in North Korea.
The so-called kidnapping case was entrapment. The FBI taking advantage of low IQ people, goading them to try to commit a federal crime so they can add a feather in their cap. It is extremely rare for the government to lose a case like this. The entrapment had to have been blatant.
 
Bushay

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lol. Ok.

Everything you just wasted your time with there is hearsay and bullshit. If you can prove you won that money at a sportsbook, they are NOT going to fuck with you. WE are still a Democracy. For now anyway.

The kidnapping case was entrapment! lol

Read post 23-24-25-26-27 and make another post apologizing to me.

Fucking embarrassing.
 
railbird

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good news, cant murder babies anymore, more good news, we are gonna stop faggots from getting married real soon
 
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boston massacre

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Bushay said:
Hey Stiffy!

Is that what I said? lol. Please quote me saying anything close to what you're claiming.

You wasted that whole paragraph to take a shot at me and completely miss quoted me.

Way to check in to a conversation you haven't a clue about.

When going through life a stiff, I guess integrity isn't that far up the list of things to prioritize.

And yes, we move on after exposing your stiff ass! lol.
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Great Patriots Never Stop Taking Shots , At The Liberal Flake Minded Fairy Tale Believers.
 
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Patrick McIrish

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Bushay said:
Hey Stiffy!

Is that what I said? lol. Please quote me saying anything close to what you're claiming.

You wasted that whole paragraph to take a shot at me and completely miss quoted me.

Way to check in to a conversation you haven't a clue about.

When going through life a stiff, I guess integrity isn't that far up the list of things to prioritize.

And yes, we move on after exposing your stiff ass! lol.
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Surrender noted.
 
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