Do we all agree now Chris Simms is awful?
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Chuck Sims
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Of course he is. Don't believe the hype.
Of course he is. Don't believe the hype.
Doc Mercer
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Seem to recall a qb called Bradshaw that was ragged on terribly early
on in his career and Aikman had 20 tds and 36 ints his first 2 seasons ...
Give him time as this guy is liked by his teammates and this is really
the first time I recall him being THE MAN in the Pros
Hell, if they hang in there they can draft his bro who is a Sr in high
school and going to Louisville to play qb
Seem to recall a qb called Bradshaw that was ragged on terribly early
on in his career and Aikman had 20 tds and 36 ints his first 2 seasons ...
Give him time as this guy is liked by his teammates and this is really
the first time I recall him being THE MAN in the Pros
Hell, if they hang in there they can draft his bro who is a Sr in high
school and going to Louisville to play qb
CHALKbreaker
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:+thumbs-2 :+thumbs-2
Him and culpepper both..Nothing but hype jobs
:+thumbs-2 :+thumbs-2
Him and culpepper both..Nothing but hype jobs
gopherbob
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he even had a 1st and goal from like the 6, but he threw an int.
he even had a 1st and goal from like the 6, but he threw an int.
jacksorbetter
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He is too busy getting his ass handed to him by his alma mater last night.
He is too busy getting his ass handed to him by his alma mater last night.
Chuck Sims
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Chalk, Definitlely Culpepper. I laughed when Miami signed him. Without Moss, he's been exposed.
Chalk, Definitlely Culpepper. I laughed when Miami signed him. Without Moss, he's been exposed.
michael777
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anybody named simms or sims is awful :+signs8-0
anybody named simms or sims is awful :+signs8-0
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That bogus penalty on Brooks INT for a TD really changed the game.
That bogus penalty on Brooks INT for a TD really changed the game.
Jojo-Rex
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NOW THAT`S THE QUOTE OF THE DAY..............ID, DIDN`T YOU START A SIMILAR BASH THREAD ON 49er QB 3 WEELS AGO?...That 49er QB is startin to get his shit together...I remember a kid named Terry Bradshaw in the 70`s got off to horrific first couple years...WHATEVER HAPPENED TO JEFFERSON STREET JOE GILLIAM?
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THE TEAM IS CURSED..UNTIMELY DEATHS(OVERSTREET,GORDON,CHAMBERS etc),DEVASTATING INJURIES ( C DWIGHT STEPENSON)...LEGENDS RETIRIRING WITH BOOTS IN THERE ASSES--C MARINO AND SHULA....AND THE WORST GRIDIRON LUCK U CAN IMAGINE>>Jojo
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Joe Gilliam
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<!-- start content -->Joe Gilliam (1950-2000) was an American football player.
<TABLE class=toccolours style="CLEAR: right; FLOAT: right; MARGIN: 0px 0px 1em 1em"><CAPTION style="FONT-SIZE: medium">Joe Gilliam</CAPTION><TBODY><TR class=hiddenStructure style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><TD colSpan=2>[[Image:{{{Image}}}|200px|center|]]</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><TD colSpan=2><SMALL>{{{Caption}}}</SMALL></TD></TR><TR style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Date of birth</TD><TD>December 29, 1950</TD></TR><TR style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Place of birth</TD><TD>Nashville, Tennessee</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Date of death</TD><TD>{{{DateOfDeath}}}</TD></TR><TR style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Position(s)</TD><TD>Quarterback</TD></TR><TR style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>College</TD><TD>Tennessee State University</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>CFL Draft</TD><TD>{{{CFLDraftedYear}}} / Round {{{CFLDraftedRound}}}</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure11 style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>NFL Draft</TD><TD>1972 / Round 11</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>AFL Draft</TD><TD>[[{{{AFLDraftedYear}}} American Football League Draft#Round {{{AFLDraftedRound}}}|{{{AFLDraftedYear}}}]] / Round {{{AFLDraftedRound}}}</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>CFL All-Star</TD><TD>{{{CFLAllStar}}}</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Pro Bowls</TD><TD>{{{ProBowls}}}</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="vertical-aligh: top"><TD>Awards</TD><TD>{{{Awards}}}</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="vertical-aligh: top"><TD>Honors</TD><TD>{{{Honors}}}</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Retired #s</TD><TD>{{{Retired #s}}}</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Records</TD><TD>{{{Records}}}</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructureGillJo00 style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Statistics</TD><TD>Pro Football Reference</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Statistics</TD><TD>NFL.com</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Statistics</TD><TD>CBS.com</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Statistics</TD><TD>DatabaseFootball</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Statistics</TD><TD>ESPN</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Statistics</TD><TD>Sports Illustrated</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="VERTICAL-ALIGN: top"><TD>Statistics</TD><TD>CFL.ca</TD></TR><TR><TH style="BACKGROUND: #cccccc" colSpan=2>Team(s)</TH></TR><TR><TD align=left>1972-1975</TD><TD>Pittsburgh Steelers</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffbb00" colSpan=2>Canadian Football Hall of Fame [1]</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffbb00" colSpan=2>College Football Hall of Fame [2]</TD></TR><TR class=hiddenStructure style="TEXT-ALIGN: center"><TD style="BACKGROUND: #ffbb00" colSpan=2>Pro Football Hall of Fame, [[{{{HOF}}} in sports|{{{HOF}}}]]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>[edit]
Career
Joseph Gilliam, Jr. (born December 29, 1950 in Nashville, Tennessee) was drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1972 in the 11th round after a college football career at Tennessee State University where he was a two-time All-American. He became the Steelers' starting Quarterback in 1974 but lost the job when Terry Bradshaw was chosen to lead the team in the playoffs, fueling speculation years later that Gilliam was removed because he was black. Bradshaw himself admits that Gilliam was more talented and deserving of the job that year than he was. Gilliam spiraled into a trap of severe alcoholism and substance abuse and was out of the National Football League at the end of 1975 and back on the streets in Nashville, Tennessee, where he battled his cocaine addiction on and off over the years.
In 1983, Gilliam attempted a comeback to pro football in the United States Football League with the Washington Federals. He did not have much success and retired from the sport for good after that season.
For the rest of his life, he battled his cocaine addiction; but did manage to run a football camp in Nashville at times. He was often homeless and on the streets in search of his next high. He earned the nickname "Jefferson Street Joe" due to the time he spent in that area his entire life.
Gilliam died of a heart attack on December 25, 2000. He had been sober for four years prior to his death and was able to attend the final Steelers game at Three Rivers Stadium.
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Joe Gilliam
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<!-- start content -->Joe Gilliam (1950-2000) was an American football player.
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Career
Joseph Gilliam, Jr. (born December 29, 1950 in Nashville, Tennessee) was drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1972 in the 11th round after a college football career at Tennessee State University where he was a two-time All-American. He became the Steelers' starting Quarterback in 1974 but lost the job when Terry Bradshaw was chosen to lead the team in the playoffs, fueling speculation years later that Gilliam was removed because he was black. Bradshaw himself admits that Gilliam was more talented and deserving of the job that year than he was. Gilliam spiraled into a trap of severe alcoholism and substance abuse and was out of the National Football League at the end of 1975 and back on the streets in Nashville, Tennessee, where he battled his cocaine addiction on and off over the years.
In 1983, Gilliam attempted a comeback to pro football in the United States Football League with the Washington Federals. He did not have much success and retired from the sport for good after that season.
For the rest of his life, he battled his cocaine addiction; but did manage to run a football camp in Nashville at times. He was often homeless and on the streets in search of his next high. He earned the nickname "Jefferson Street Joe" due to the time he spent in that area his entire life.
Gilliam died of a heart attack on December 25, 2000. He had been sober for four years prior to his death and was able to attend the final Steelers game at Three Rivers Stadium.
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Ex-Buc Chris Simms arrested on marijuana charge
Ex-Buc Chris Simms arrested on marijuana charge
The Associated Press
Police say Tennessee Titans backup quarterback Chris Simms told them he'd been smoking marijuana before he was stopped while driving today — but he says he was just talking about cigarettes.
Simms, a son of former New York Giants quarterback Phil Simms, called the case against him "very weak" as he left a Manhattan courthouse after his arraignment on charges of driving while impaired by drugs.
"I think it speaks for itself," Simms, 29, said as he walked to a waiting car, with his pregnant wife on his arm. Released without bail, he's due back in court Aug. 23 on the misdemeanor and traffic-violation charges.
Police and prosecutors said Simms slurred his words, had bloodshot eyes and smelled of marijuana when stopped early today at a downtown Manhattan police checkpoint, with his wife, Danielle, in the car.
According to a court complaint, Simms told an officer he'd been "smoking marijuana in the car earlier."
But Simms' lawyer, Nathan Semmel, said the quarterback didn't say that, and wouldn't do it.
"My client never admitted to smoking marijuana that night. He admitted to smoking cigarettes that night," Semmel said.
He called it "absurd" to suggest that Simms would drive impaired while his wife, eight months pregnant with their second child, was riding along.
"There's nothing in his record, whatsoever, that suggests that he would be that reckless," Semmel said.
He suggested two other unidentified passengers in the car's back seat "might be the sources of the odor" of marijuana that police reported.
The New York Police Department had no immediate comment.
If convicted, Simms could face up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. He didn't take prosecutors up on offer to plead guilty today in exchange for a $500 fine, three days of community service and a six-month license revocation.
The Titans, in a statement, said they were aware of the case and gathering more information about it.
Simms has started 16 games during his six-year NFL career and is in his second stint with the Titans. He came to Tennessee in 2008 after being released by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, then returned to the Titans after playing for the Denver Broncos last year as an unrestricted free agent. He was a third-round draft pick by Tampa Bay in 2003.
In 2006, Simms had emergency surgery to remove his spleen, which ruptured during a game against Carolina.
His father is now an announcer and analyst for CBS Sports and led the Giants to two Super Bowls, playing 14 seasons with the team.
Ex-Buc Chris Simms arrested on marijuana charge
Ex-Buc Chris Simms arrested on marijuana charge
The Associated Press
Police say Tennessee Titans backup quarterback Chris Simms told them he'd been smoking marijuana before he was stopped while driving today — but he says he was just talking about cigarettes.
Simms, a son of former New York Giants quarterback Phil Simms, called the case against him "very weak" as he left a Manhattan courthouse after his arraignment on charges of driving while impaired by drugs.
"I think it speaks for itself," Simms, 29, said as he walked to a waiting car, with his pregnant wife on his arm. Released without bail, he's due back in court Aug. 23 on the misdemeanor and traffic-violation charges.
Police and prosecutors said Simms slurred his words, had bloodshot eyes and smelled of marijuana when stopped early today at a downtown Manhattan police checkpoint, with his wife, Danielle, in the car.
According to a court complaint, Simms told an officer he'd been "smoking marijuana in the car earlier."
But Simms' lawyer, Nathan Semmel, said the quarterback didn't say that, and wouldn't do it.
"My client never admitted to smoking marijuana that night. He admitted to smoking cigarettes that night," Semmel said.
He called it "absurd" to suggest that Simms would drive impaired while his wife, eight months pregnant with their second child, was riding along.
"There's nothing in his record, whatsoever, that suggests that he would be that reckless," Semmel said.
He suggested two other unidentified passengers in the car's back seat "might be the sources of the odor" of marijuana that police reported.
The New York Police Department had no immediate comment.
If convicted, Simms could face up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. He didn't take prosecutors up on offer to plead guilty today in exchange for a $500 fine, three days of community service and a six-month license revocation.
The Titans, in a statement, said they were aware of the case and gathering more information about it.
Simms has started 16 games during his six-year NFL career and is in his second stint with the Titans. He came to Tennessee in 2008 after being released by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, then returned to the Titans after playing for the Denver Broncos last year as an unrestricted free agent. He was a third-round draft pick by Tampa Bay in 2003.
In 2006, Simms had emergency surgery to remove his spleen, which ruptured during a game against Carolina.
His father is now an announcer and analyst for CBS Sports and led the Giants to two Super Bowls, playing 14 seasons with the team.
