An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
:+clueless About an hour and a half ago, a city councilman in Iraq, attending a ceremony to open a park......shot and murdered 3 of our soldiers!! This guy was ,ahem, ON OUR SIDE!!! How fuck*d up is it when politicians on our side, when given the chance, blow away our troops???
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

:+clueless About an hour and a half ago, a city councilman in Iraq, attending a ceremony to open a park......shot and murdered 3 of our soldiers!! This guy was ,ahem, ON OUR SIDE!!! How fuck*d up is it when politicians on our side, when given the chance, blow away our troops???

You just love reporting this shit, don't ya ? Makes you feel all good inside to see American soldiers getting killed.
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Is there a law against reporting this type of news, I understand there is a law against televising photos and film of soldiers coffins when they return home, is this true?
 

the glue

EOG Veteran
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Just put your head in the sand.....
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Is there a law against reporting this type of news, I understand there is a law against televising photos and film of soldiers coffins when they return home, is this true?

It's not a law, Dig, they just don't allow the reporters on McGuire AFB, Dover AFB, or Andrews AFB to film the coffins coming home. The access to the bases is controlled, especially around the flightlines.
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Would be really bad PR to have the nation see those images every day or two in the press and on TV for the last 6 or 7 years.
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Would be really bad PR to have the nation see those images every day or two in the press and on TV for the last 6 or 7 years.

Would be very bad indeed. Support for an invasion can wane very quickly when people actually see the lives that are thrown away in the name of imperialism.
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

I think the point is that Harvey seems to enjoy this type of news...not ONCE has he reported anything positive about the war

fair and balanced?
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

I think the point is that Harvey seems to enjoy this type of news...not ONCE has he reported anything positive about the war

fair and balanced?


He's no more "fair and balanced" than any of the supporters of this invasion (it's not a war).

Why should Harvey, or anyone else for that matter, feel positive about American service members dying needlessly in a nation that never posed a threat to the United States?
 
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It's funny (not) Dawg; the chickenhawks don't ever seem to be around to answer questions like your last one. . . .:+clueless
 

the glue

EOG Veteran
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Nothing positive about war........End the war thats positive...91023i2ndw;l
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

You just love reporting this shit, don't ya ? Makes you feel all good inside to see American soldiers getting killed.

Where did he say that this made him feel good? Your reading comprehension is very poor. What I got out of it was, he is angry.
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Where did he say that this made him feel good? Your reading comprehension is very poor. What I got out of it was, he is angry.

you can't be that dumb...have you read any of hotshot's posts?...he loves this kind of news
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
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Would be very bad indeed. Support for an invasion can wane very quickly when people actually see the lives that are thrown away in the name of imperialism.

American imperialism is good and is blessed by God.

Munchkin Man
 

HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Tar-turd and Nick, the greek towel boy.... I am for killing these Motherfuc**rs!!! As a strong suporter of Israel, Sunni and Shiite Arabs are not on my Christmas Card list!! But we are fighting in the wrong country for the wrong reasons....It's a clusterfu*k!!! Should be taking out Iran and the Saudis...but YOUR boy, Chimpy is in bed with the Saudis!! We should have sent in 450,000 troops in to begin with, as Gen, Shinseki said!!! I will not talk sweet words about this complete screwup-but I'm NOT happy about the situation-because, as I have said here before...and the GAO reports TODAY... even the surge is N-O-T meeting almost ALL of its goals...no matter how much you two and others say it is!!! I'm for kicking Arab butt and taking their oil!!! Let them pound sand!!! Screw em!!! GET IT!!!????
 

HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

You two morons and Munchy stick with this screw-up with your eyes closed wide shut!!! If the GOP did it ...it MUST be good!!! Your partisanship fails you to see the truth and facts!!! Your side fucked up..but you will never admit it!! We'll go broke in Iraq!! But you 3 chickenhawks will cheer the demise on-because your allegiance is to the GOP---NOT AMERICA!!!
 
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It's funny (not) Dawg; the chickenhawks don't ever seem to be around to answer questions like your last one. . . .:+clueless

Of course not, 46. Much like a child facing the possibility that Santa Claus doesn't really exist, they will hold on to the idea that invading Iraq was the "right" thing to do, no matter what evidence they are presented to the contrary.
 
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American imperialism is good and is blessed by God.

Munchkin Man

I'm pretty sure the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Spanish, British, Japanese, and Soviets all thought the same things about their imperialism. Where are they now?
 

HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

In the Thomas Crapper( He invented the toilet!!)
 

HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Munchy goes to Sunday School and Church every week??? Where in the bible does it say God supports Imperialism??? Exodus, Deuteronomy, Leviticus??? No ....in the book of MUNCHY!!! LMAO...at YOU,fool!!! You blaspheme your own religious fantasies with your stupidity???
 
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Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
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I'm pretty sure the Persians, Greeks, Romans, Spanish, British, Japanese, and Soviets all thought the same things about their imperialism. Where are they now?

They weren't Americans.

Munchkin Man
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Munchy goes to Sunday School and Church every week??? Where in the bible does it say God supports Imperialism??? Exodus, Deuteronomy, Leviticus??? No ....in the book of MUNCHY!!! LMAO...at YOU,fool!!! You blaspheme your own religious fantasies with your stupidity???

MARK 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

MATTHEW 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

If it takes the butt of a rifle to convert people to Christianity and stop them from going to Hell, then so be it.

They will be grateful for it later.

Munchkin Man
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

MARK 16:15
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

MATTHEW 28:19
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

If it takes the butt of a rifle to convert people to Christianity and stop them from going to Hell, then so be it.

They will be grateful for it later.

Munchkin Man

Spoken like a true extremist. Christian Terrorism is just as evil as Islamic Terrorism.
 

HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Munchy...you show Christianity to be what it is....extremist nonsense-and you and so many other fools still believe a Jewish Rabbi is your "Messiah"!!! It's a way to control your sick, demented, pea-sized brain!! Sucker!!! Bring your rifle butt over here , chicken hawk, and I'll shove it way up there with a hot cattle prod. Why would anyone want a Jewish rabbi for their Messiah??? Awfully low threshold for Messiah's!!! Spain tried an "Inquisition" to turn people Christian...how's Spain working out for you as a bastion for world leadership in anything other than .....bullfighting!!!
 
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HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Getting back to my original post...what does it say when "friendly Iraqi dignitaries" start killing our troops in broad daylight???? Still no answer from the right-wing chickenhawk loons-other than to take a cheap shot at me-saying I was happy about it!!! Typival Rovian horsecrap that doesn't sell here, you turd-brains!!!
 

HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

...and if Jimmy Hoffa is on tonight.....Fu*k you!!! You right-wing coward!!!
 

Spytheweb

EOG Addicted
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

That makes 6 dead Americans in the last 24 hours.

BAGHDAD - A bomb exploded inside Sadr City's district council building Tuesday, killing 10 people, including four Americans working to restore local government and services in the former Shiite militia stronghold.


MADAIN, Iraq ? A U.S.-allied Iraqi council member sprayed American troops with gunfire Monday, killing two soldiers and wounding three and an interpreter, Iraqi authorities and witnesses said. The attack occurred minutes after they emerged from a weekly joint meeting on reconstruction in this volatile town southeast of Baghdad.
Raed Mahmoud Ajil, a former high school principal in his mid-40s, was known as a respected city council member and devoted educator who'd recently returned to Iraq after completing his master's degree in India, stunned colleagues said. U.S. troops shot and killed him at the scene.
Ajil's colleagues said they could think of no motive for the deadly rampage, which is thought to be the first incident of a U.S.-allied Iraqi politician carrying out such an attack. Ajil comes from a distinguished Sunni Muslim family. His brother is security chief for the Iraqi Ministry of Justice and a cousin is a high-ranking judge, relatives said.
<!-- story_factbox.comp --> <!-- /story_factbox.comp --> Ajil's family said that he'd suffered from bouts of depression and sporadic epileptic seizures, which he masked in his role as a public servant. Relatives knew him to be friendly to U.S. troops and said he had no qualms about working alongside them, even though many in this mixed Sunni-Shiite Muslim town view American forces as occupiers.
"(The Americans) used to love him. They gave him a contract for a project he was working on. He spoke English fluently with them and they used to like him so much," said Sherif Abdullah Aziz, 47, a cousin. "There is no explanation that we know of for what happened."
Fadil Ahmed Abed, a Sunni council member who was formerly the chairman, said members of the council met with the Americans at about 10 a.m. after a ceremony to open a new city park. Abed said Ajil had sat silent during the meeting except when his signature was required for a school maintenance project. The meeting ran until about 1 p.m. As the Americans were walking out of the heavily guarded council headquarters, the shootings began.
"I was in the building. We heard gunshots followed by heavy shooting from the Americans. We tried to go out, but the troops stopped us," Abed said. "After that, the Americans came to us and said that council member Raed attacked U.S. soldiers."
"The reason behind this is absolutely unknown," Abed added. "The meeting was very routine. There were suggestions about reconstruction and about schools."
The U.S. military command in Baghdad would confirm only that two American soldiers were killed and three others were wounded, along with an interpreter, as they were leaving the city council building in Madain.
Abed didn't witness the shootings, but he said that authorities had told him that Ajil had walked out of the building with the Americans, rushed over to his truck and returned with an assault rifle. Neither the local authorities nor the U.S. military could offer details on the circumstances of the shootings. At 5 p.m., the scene of the attack was still littered with bullet casings, puddles of blood and a camouflage protective pad that's part of a U.S. soldier's uniform.
A married father of three, Ajil was elected to the council in 2003 as an independent, relatives and colleagues said. In 2004, when sectarian violence in the town halted reconstruction, the city council was dissolved and many members fled or were killed.
Ajil left Iraq to complete his master's degree in India, returning frequently to check on his family and city, colleagues and relatives said. He'd returned for good only in the past week and had resumed his civic work. Abed said the council had yet to be fully reinstalled, though the members showed up for regularly scheduled meetings.
Ajil's colleagues said that his life was focused on education; he'd graduated from Baghdad University and served as a high school principal for four years. He was the chairman of the council's education committee. Relatives said he'd struggled with depression since his youth and had stabbed a relative in a sudden fit of rage in 2000.
"When he talks to you, he's very polite, an educated man, respectful," said Aziz, his cousin. "But back at home, he would go and close the door to his room and stay there for two days."
For decades, archaeologists have descended on Madain, an ancient town along the Tigris River that was home to the early cities of Seleucia and Ctesiphon. Since the U.S.-led invasion of 2003, however, Madain has been a breeding ground for sectarian tensions. At its worst, the bloodshed shut down most public life.
In recent months, U.S. and Iraqi authorities have reduced the violence with an increased Iraqi military presence and the formation of U.S.-backed militias, known as awakening councils, to help American forces in the fight against Sunni and Shiite extremists. Abed praised Iraqi troops' reaction to the incident, saying that they'd protected terrified politicians in the building and escorted them to safety.
Anti-U.S. sentiment remains widespread, with many locals viewing the American presence as an intrusion. As news of Ajil's killings spread, some residents hailed him as a hero. Several uttered his name and added, "God rest his soul," and a taxi driver at the scene pointed to the bloodstains and said, "the pigs deserved this."
 

gopherbob

EOG Dedicated
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"If it takes the butt of a rifle to convert people to Christianity and stop them from going to Hell, then so be it.

They will be grateful for it later."


what is the munchkin man's opinion of those that blow up abortion clinics and shoot physicians that perform abortions ?
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

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you must have read a different report than the rest of the world... or you are spinning to what you want to read.

the report laid out signifigant political, economic and security progress in Iraq(from the ap wire)
but cautioned the country is still unstable.
it also warned that Iran and Syria continue to provide safe havens for terrorists and allow them to travel across the border to Iraq.
it did say the govt of iraq lacks the ability to execute programs on the scale required at this point...duh.
but Al Qaida has been hobbled by the military but is regrouping along the euphrates
it detailed the spike in attacks in March and april
and said violence has now dropped off significantly
militant leaders appear to have fled to iran and the Maysan Providence.
that sounds a little like progress with the last of 5 additional brigades set to come hom in bid july and the u.s will have 142000 troops there.

oh yeah..the 2nd report.
said only 10% of iraqi forces can operate on their own...too inept.
northern Iraq most problem area
most provinces other than there have less than one attack per day.
civilian deaths down 75% from last July
High profile attacks down 70% since the peak in March..

again...all sounds like progress buddy.


guys i also do my research and you can't just bs and think its all gonna fly.
im sick of it and its time to start calling you on it when i have time.
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HotShotHarvey

EOG Veteran
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Wrong post,jackoff!!! Northern Iraq is the quietest-that's where the Kurds are-you moron!!! Yeah-your version of the truth is not worth toilet paper!!! Nice try-but you got it ioo% WRONG-like most of you loons blinded by THE RIGHT(WHO IS WRONG!!) Where do you do your research....at the local comic book store???
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

:+clueless About an hour and a half ago, a city councilman in Iraq, attending a ceremony to open a park......shot and murdered 3 of our soldiers!! This guy was ,ahem, ON OUR SIDE!!! How fuck*d up is it when politicians on our side, when given the chance, blow away our troops???

apparently he wasn't on "our side"
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Spoken like a true extremist. Christian Terrorism is just as evil as Islamic Terrorism.

Nope.

You've got it wrong.

You're speaking typical multiculturalism.

Converting to Christianity puts you in Heaven.

Converting to Islam puts you in Hell.

It's that simple.

Munchkin Man
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

Nope.

You've got it wrong.

You're speaking typical multiculturalism.

Converting to Christianity puts you in Heaven.

Converting to Islam puts you in Hell.

It's that simple.

Munchkin Man

No proof in that except your "faith".
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

No proof in that except your "faith".

That's all the proof the Munchkin Man needs.

The Munchkin Man would like to invite you to read the following:

AlKitab: Contents

How to become a citizen of the Kingdom

The Munchkin Man hopes you submit to and follow the wisdom of the words contained therein.

Otherwise, your "proof" will come in due time, and in a manner you will not like.

With Blessings,

Munchkin Man
 
Re: An Iraqi city councilman just shot and killed 3 of our brave soldiers!!

That's all the proof the Munchkin Man needs.

The Munchkin Man would like to invite you to read the following:

AlKitab: Contents

How to become a citizen of the Kingdom

The Munchkin Man hopes you submit to and follow the wisdom of the words contained therein.

Otherwise, your "proof" will come in due time, and in a manner you will not like.

With Blessings,

Munchkin Man


Sorry, Munchkin Man. I will not be dragged into your fear mongering or your Christian Terrorism.
 
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