Another gambling investigation

howid

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To be fair it could have just been a degenerate gambler ...

thought I was brainstorming the other day when the Jays Vlad Guerrero got hit two days in a row, even getting knocked out of the game the second time.

so it would make sense the Jays would retaliate to protect their star player. No veteran pitcher, can't remember it was either Bassitt or Berrios, was going to let that go without returning the deed.

Hence the next inning I bet the first pitch to the leadoff hitter Kwan was going to be a beanball. Nope, strike one ...

unfortunately for me there was no plan to hit anybody that inning, they decided to hit the Guardians slugger Ramirez with the first pitch leading off the following inning instead

goodbye cash
 
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howid

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Uh-oh Judge just got hit by Bassitt... not watching the game . not sure if there was any intent let's see what happens with Guerrero ...
 
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howid

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Probably no intent it was a ball anyways but couldn't get the bet in in time ... much easier to bet the first picture of an inning
 
John Kelly

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To announce a gambling investigation, I assume MLB has more evidence on the guilt of Luis Ortiz than what they produce to the media at the onset.

I imagine Ortiz is somehow linked to the associate(s) who opened the betting account.
 
howid

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Reports that the bets were made over the counter by VIP members who are not subject to the miniscule prop limits; five and maybe even six figure amountd are nodded in via special privilege.

Ortiz pulled last night, being paid to cool his heels while the investigation continues ...
 
Sportsrmylife

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howid said:
Reports that the bets were made over the counter by VIP members who are not subject to the miniscule prop limits; five and maybe even six figure amountd are nodded in via special privilege.

Ortiz pulled last night, being paid to cool his heels while the investigation continues ...
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6 figure bets on 1st pitch is a ball or strike?

No fkn way
 
mr merlin

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The first one wasn't that bad, I think they realized it was too close and the batter might have swung, that's why the 2nd one was so horrible.
 
howid

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6 figure bets on 1st pitch is a ball or strike?
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keeping millions losing whales satisfied, why not; not unheard of gifting a quarter-million Rolex so why not this ... maybe after the huge catch they get backed off a bit ...
 
mr merlin

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How about a scenario where both the pitcher and the batter are crooked/gambling, but on opposite sides? So the pitcher makes sure he spikes the ball into the ground and the batter swings anyway.

If a batter knows he's hitting lead off he could do it as easily as a pitcher.
 
kane

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Couldn't he have thrown a pitch called a ball that wasn't so obvious? I don't know what kind of control he has, but all he had to do was throw a pitch a few inches off the plate, it wouldn't have drawn so much attention
 
kane

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Then again, most umpires suck so bad a pitch way outside could have been called a strike, I guess he didn't want to take any chances
 
Sportsrmylife

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mr merlin said:
How about a scenario where both the pitcher and the batter are crooked/gambling, but on opposite sides? So the pitcher makes sure he spikes the ball into the ground and the batter swings anyway.

If a batter knows he's hitting lead off he could do it as easily as a pitcher.
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Man great point

Will the 1st pitch be a strike

He swings at anything

Even if he gets thrown at if he swings at it and gets hit he doesn't get his base.

Count is 0-1
 
mr merlin

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Sportsrmylife said:
Man great point

Will the 1st pitch be a strike

He swings at anything

Even if he gets thrown at if he swings at it and gets hit he doesn't get his base.

Count is 0-1
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the smart play is for both the pitcher and the batter to bet on strike, just throw it over the middle and the guy swings, it wouldn't look at all suspicious.
 
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I would like to know his 1st pitch strike percentage. Couldn't it just be an astute gambler playing an edge? Guys will chase that pitch in the 1st video all the time.
 
kane

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2W2P2S said:
Couldn't it just be an astute gambler playing an edge?
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I haven't paid too much attention to this story, but apparently there was an inordinate amount of money bet on those two pitches, enough to raise a raise a red flag
 
Heim

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We're over propped. They need to eliminate some of these sudden gratification stuff. Too easy to manipulate.

This is making too much news, all we need is a conservative Republican to step in and try to narrow betting options.

If you follow baseball, obvious with his arm angle he wanted nothing close to the plate.
 
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kane said:
I haven't paid too much attention to this story, but apparently there was an inordinate amount of money bet on those two pitches, enough to raise a raise a red flag
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The edge would be low 1st pitch strike percentage and lead off hitter with high 1st pitch take percentage. I doubt those factors get analyzed.
When they give it, we take it, and if a book is allowing high limits on props like that they'll always be bludgeoned.
 
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