Another gambling investigation

howid

howid

0
To be fair it could have just been a degenerate gambler ...

thought I was brainstorming the other day when the Jays Vlad Guerrero got hit two days in a row, even getting knocked out of the game the second time.

so it would make sense the Jays would retaliate to protect their star player. No veteran pitcher, can't remember it was either Bassitt or Berrios, was going to let that go without returning the deed.

Hence the next inning I bet the first pitch to the leadoff hitter Kwan was going to be a beanball. Nope, strike one ...

unfortunately for me there was no plan to hit anybody that inning, they decided to hit the Guardians slugger Ramirez with the first pitch leading off the following inning instead

goodbye cash
 
Last edited:
Uh-oh Judge just got hit by Bassitt... not watching the game . not sure if there was any intent let's see what happens with Guerrero ...
 
Last edited:
Probably no intent it was a ball anyways but couldn't get the bet in in time ... much easier to bet the first picture of an inning
 
To announce a gambling investigation, I assume MLB has more evidence on the guilt of Luis Ortiz than what they produce to the media at the onset.

I imagine Ortiz is somehow linked to the associate(s) who opened the betting account.
 
Reports that the bets were made over the counter by VIP members who are not subject to the miniscule prop limits; five and maybe even six figure amountd are nodded in via special privilege.

Ortiz pulled last night, being paid to cool his heels while the investigation continues ...
 
howid said:
Reports that the bets were made over the counter by VIP members who are not subject to the miniscule prop limits; five and maybe even six figure amountd are nodded in via special privilege.

Ortiz pulled last night, being paid to cool his heels while the investigation continues ...
Click to expand...
6 figure bets on 1st pitch is a ball or strike?

No fkn way
 
The first one wasn't that bad, I think they realized it was too close and the batter might have swung, that's why the 2nd one was so horrible.
 
6 figure bets on 1st pitch is a ball or strike?
Click to expand...

keeping millions losing whales satisfied, why not; not unheard of gifting a quarter-million Rolex so why not this ... maybe after the huge catch they get backed off a bit ...
 
How about a scenario where both the pitcher and the batter are crooked/gambling, but on opposite sides? So the pitcher makes sure he spikes the ball into the ground and the batter swings anyway.

If a batter knows he's hitting lead off he could do it as easily as a pitcher.
 
Couldn't he have thrown a pitch called a ball that wasn't so obvious? I don't know what kind of control he has, but all he had to do was throw a pitch a few inches off the plate, it wouldn't have drawn so much attention
 
Then again, most umpires suck so bad a pitch way outside could have been called a strike, I guess he didn't want to take any chances
 
mr merlin said:
How about a scenario where both the pitcher and the batter are crooked/gambling, but on opposite sides? So the pitcher makes sure he spikes the ball into the ground and the batter swings anyway.

If a batter knows he's hitting lead off he could do it as easily as a pitcher.
Click to expand...
Man great point

Will the 1st pitch be a strike

He swings at anything

Even if he gets thrown at if he swings at it and gets hit he doesn't get his base.

Count is 0-1
 
Sportsrmylife said:
Man great point

Will the 1st pitch be a strike

He swings at anything

Even if he gets thrown at if he swings at it and gets hit he doesn't get his base.

Count is 0-1
Click to expand...
the smart play is for both the pitcher and the batter to bet on strike, just throw it over the middle and the guy swings, it wouldn't look at all suspicious.
 
I would like to know his 1st pitch strike percentage. Couldn't it just be an astute gambler playing an edge? Guys will chase that pitch in the 1st video all the time.
 
2W2P2S said:
Couldn't it just be an astute gambler playing an edge?
Click to expand...
I haven't paid too much attention to this story, but apparently there was an inordinate amount of money bet on those two pitches, enough to raise a raise a red flag
 
We're over propped. They need to eliminate some of these sudden gratification stuff. Too easy to manipulate.

This is making too much news, all we need is a conservative Republican to step in and try to narrow betting options.

If you follow baseball, obvious with his arm angle he wanted nothing close to the plate.
 
kane said:
I haven't paid too much attention to this story, but apparently there was an inordinate amount of money bet on those two pitches, enough to raise a raise a red flag
Click to expand...
The edge would be low 1st pitch strike percentage and lead off hitter with high 1st pitch take percentage. I doubt those factors get analyzed.
When they give it, we take it, and if a book is allowing high limits on props like that they'll always be bludgeoned.
 
Another Wild Investigation that hasn't turned up anything , but investigation is still ongoing , and the Bettor got paid.


www.espn.com

Docs: Bettor placed 30 wagers on Rozier unders

A professional bettor placed 30 wagers in 46 minutes, all involving Terry Rozier in a 2023 NBA game, according to documents obtained by ESPN that reveal new details about the suspicious betting under scrutiny by federal investigators.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
I love that NBA players take no chances with these unders. They come up with a mysterious ailment during the game...
 
Heim said:
I love that NBA players take no chances with these unders. They come up with a mysterious ailment during the game...
Click to expand...
The crazy thing is how small the bets were on these obviously crooked games - $12 grand in this case. Look at what NBA players make, $12K is peanuts, so that means these guys are the stupidest bastards ever or maybe they were threatened into doing it?
 
Decades ago at a small harness track to remain nameless, my ''contact'' was approached by a driver in the last race who also had another driver that were willing hold back from the triactor if some action could be brought about ie stiffing. My contact got someone else to hold out for a $300 payout.

8 horse race, 3 horses out, costs $120 to box the 5 remaining. unfortunately the way the money went the combination only paid $85 and change; not sure how many tickets my contact bought but for every one the syndicate ate a loss of $35. and the money paid out to the drivers.

Of course the cooperating drivers would make it up to them at a later date but they took a bath on this one ...
 
mr merlin said:
The crazy thing is how small the bets were on these obviously crooked games - $12 grand in this case. Look at what NBA players make, $12K is peanuts, so that means these guys are the stupidest bastards ever or maybe they were threatened into doing it?
Click to expand...
I don't know what happened regarding the Rozier situation, but my best guess is he told a friend he had an injured foot and would probably play limited minutes that night, somehow that info got into the hands of a bettor and the guy took a shot playing Rozier unders. That's what I think more than likely happened, I don't think Rozier had any idea what was going on, just my educated guess
 
kane said:
I don't know what happened regarding the Rozier situation, but my best guess is he told a friend he had an injured foot and would probably play limited minutes that night, somehow that info got into the hands of a bettor and the guy took a shot playing Rozier unders. That's what I think more than likely happened, I don't think Rozier had any idea what was going on, just my educated guess
Click to expand...
I would say that's possible, another possibility is that Rozier hangs with some hard up guys who need money and he's tired of helping them out. So he leaked that info to his buddy to make some coin - and the dope couldn't keep his mouth shut and told his friends too.
 
Ortiz is on a $746,000 deal for 2025.

Clase is being paid $4.9 million in 2025.
His salary rises to $6.4 million in 2026.
He has team options for $10 million in 2027 and 2028.

So after this season, he has up to $26.4 million left on his contract. All of that could be in jeopardy.



The only good news to come out Monday was in this Guardians statement: ”No additional players or club personnel are expected to be impacted” as MLB continues its investigation.
 
Baseball’s stance has been that any MLB player betting on baseball will be suspended for life. Pittsburgh utility player Tucupita Marcano was given that suspension for betting in 2022 and 2023. There were no charges that Marcano actually played in any of the games where he placed bets.

He was making $720,000 in 2024 when the suspension hit.
 
NBA Marcus Morris stiffs Wynn and MGM of $265,000. Wrote bad checks to cover markers.

I believe he's sitting in jail....

Marcus Morris career earnings:


1753908096144.png
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top