Billy Beane finally WHIFFS!

travisdog

EOG Enthusiast
#1

You're in FIRST PLACE,
Your ERA is 2nd in the AL to Seattle,



and you now trade a gold-glover AND home run hitter
for a guy who plays every 5TH GAME.

when Lester has a bad outing, now you just traded
all this for a guy who plays every 10TH GAME!!!!!
:shoot:
 
#3
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Billy Beane has NEVER won a title.

Moneyball was helped along by 3 great young pitchers (Hudson, Mulder, Zito)

Billy Beane was a career .219 hitter. He has whiffed a lot more than you think.

They will come up short again this year. People laying 4-1 are on crack!
 
#4
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Billy Beane has NEVER won a title.

Moneyball was helped along by 3 great young pitchers (Hudson, Mulder, Zito)

Billy Beane was a career .219 hitter. He has whiffed a lot more than you think.

They will come up short again this year. People laying 4-1 are on crack!

Exactly :lightbulb:


Actually never got close to one!
 
#5
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You're in FIRST PLACE,
Your ERA is 2nd in the AL to Seattle,



and you now trade a gold-glover AND home run hitter
for a guy who plays every 5TH GAME.

when Lester has a bad outing, now you just traded
all this for a guy who plays every 10TH GAME!!!!!
:shoot:

They already had enough pitching and just gave away their best playoff bat and defensive player......

66-41 and this guy thinks he can improve on that .....

Seriously if this guy knew baseball he would have been satisfied.

He just blew the A's chance this year .........

There's no way they have a better record for the rest of the season.

He made the trade that adds NOTHING to this team because it got rid of their best player.

12io4j2w90
 
#6
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Too steep a price since Lester is a free agent in a few months and likely leaves Oakland, he can go right back to the Bosox. He'd need to under contract for at least 2015 to do this trade.
 

Irishluck

EOG Dedicated
#7
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Oakland won't even win the division

angels going to steal it

there going to win it all baby

8 to 1 winning it all
 
#8
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Billy Beane has NEVER won a title.

Moneyball was helped along by 3 great young pitchers (Hudson, Mulder, Zito)

Billy Beane was a career .219 hitter. He has whiffed a lot more than you think.

They will come up short again this year. People laying 4-1 are on crack!
Beane has the A's with the best record in baseball, with the THIRD LOWEST PAYROLL.

There isn't a team close to Oakland that is getting more wins per dollar spent than Beane has with the A's the last 3 years.

The A's are at 77 million, the Angels are at 128m.
 
#9
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They already had enough pitching and just gave away their best playoff bat and defensive player......

66-41 and this guy thinks he can improve on that .....

Seriously if this guy knew baseball he would have been satisfied.

He just blew the A's chance this year .........

There's no way they have a better record for the rest of the season.

He made the trade that adds NOTHING to this team because it got rid of their best player.

12io4j2w90
BB knew enough to get this team to 66-41.

Cespedes is a train wreck.. his OBP is .303, it is the lowest among every starting A's hitter.

More, Cespedes doesn't even lead the team in HR.. he's 3rd. Behind Moss and Donaldson. He's also behind both of those guys in RBI.

His value to the A's is not what you think it is.

I swear some of you never watch a single game of baseball.
 

Bushay

NHL Expert
#13
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They already had enough pitching and just gave away their best playoff bat and defensive player......

66-41 and this guy thinks he can improve on that .....

Seriously if this guy knew baseball he would have been satisfied.

He just blew the A's chance this year .........

There's no way they have a better record for the rest of the season.

He made the trade that adds NOTHING to this team because it got rid of their best player.

12io4j2w90
Its not about if their end of the season going forward is better. It's about if they have enough ammunition come playoff time. Whether it's from pitching or at the plate.
 
#15
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I know it's a small sample but it's funny how none of you want to accept the FACT that Cespedes is hitting .360 in his playoff career and is a great outfielder.

Wanting to get ready for the playoffs and you get rid of your best PLAYOFF hitter. A guy that can hit PLAYOFF pitching.

You guys keep guessing.

I will look at the facts.

This was a stupid trade!
 
#16
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Its not about if their end of the season going forward is better. It's about if they have enough ammunition come playoff time. Whether it's from pitching or at the plate.

They just gave away the heart of their lineup .......

There is no way this was a good trade
 
#19
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I swear some of you never watch a single game of baseball.

Yeap

I watched an A's team the last 2 years that couldn't get a hit in the playoffs except for Cespedes....

And they trade him for a pitcher they didn't need ..... if it meant giving up your best batter.

12io4j2w90
 
#21
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Yeap

I watched an A's team the last 2 years that couldn't get a hit in the playoffs except for Cespedes....

And they trade him for a pitcher they didn't need ..... if it meant giving up your best batter.

12io4j2w90
He's NOT their best hitter.

Here's the funny thing.

You put more weight on the small sample of playoff hitting than Cespedes shitty year to date.

He's left the 4th most runners in scoring position in the entire major leagues.

He has a .303 OBP. He's a .250 hitter.

He's a less talented Todd Frazier.

Pitching wins playoff baseball. That's a fact. Not a guy hitting .250
 
#25
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Sam look at verlander great in season garbage in playoffs

:lightbulb:

He just doesn't understand that playoff baseball is different than regular season baseball.

Some rise above the rest. When you have one of them you don't get rid of them during one of your best years that you have a chance to win.

And the other thing....

How is the team going to react to losing one of their friends for a guy making more all all of them combined?

That can kill a team if you didn't know.....

:doh1
 
#26
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Really?

Are you really going to try and make the case that pitching doesn't matter in playoff baseball?

You are not making any sense .....

Most batters have trouble during the playoffs "every fucking pitch" matters pressure.

The A's gave away their best playoff hitter.

I would have never made that trade. I understand the value of having a player that has already proven the playoff pitching doesn't bother him......

Again. If you have a player that has been awesome in the playoffs. YOU DON'T GET RID OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#27
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You are not making any sense .....

Most batters have trouble during the playoffs "every fucking pitch" matters pressure.

The A's gave away their best playoff hitter.

I would have never made that trade. I understand the value of having a player that has already proven the playoff pitching doesn't bother him......

Again. If you have a player that has been awesome in the playoffs. YOU DON'T GET RID OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And the point you're missing is this.

You're not getting rid of anything. Cespedes is average at best. Average.

Look at every single statistical metric you can find... and Cespedes is average. Nothing special. Lester is special.
 
#29
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Here is where Dave Dombrowski trumped the A’s GM Billy Beane. According to the Oakland A’s beat writer for MLB.com, Jane Lee, Dombrowski texted Beane saying, “you have one minute to acquire Chris Sale.” after the Price deal was announced.
 

travisdog

EOG Enthusiast
#35
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OAKLAND is now majorly overpriced per game, in case you haven't noticed.

Bet against them the next 10 games, at least, and you will increase your bank.
:pop:
 
#36
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Give me all the stats you want. This lineup won't win the World Series.

1. Sam Fuld (L) CF
2. John Jaso (L) C
3. Josh Donaldson (R) 3B
4. Brandon Moss (L) LF
5. Jed Lowrie (S) SS
6. Stephen Vogt (L) 1B
7. Josh Reddick (L) RF
8. Alberto Callaspo (S) DH
9. Eric Sogard (L) 2B
why not? the giants won a world series with a lineup featuring pagan, scutaro, theriot, crawford, belt, and gregor blanco. won in a sweep. they also won with a lineup featuring andres torres, freddy sanchez, cody ross, juan uribe, aubrey huff, pat burrell, edgar renteria and aaron rowand in 2010
 
#37
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why not? the giants won a world series with a lineup featuring pagan, scutaro, theriot, crawford, belt, and gregor blanco. won in a sweep. they also won with a lineup featuring andres torres, freddy sanchez, cody ross, juan uribe, aubrey huff, pat burrell, edgar renteria and aaron rowand in 2010
Pagan is one of the most underrated players in all of baseball. Too bad he can't stay healthy.
 
#38
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it'd be hard to win without good starting pitching, but I think teams can win the WS without a good lineup. Obviously the pitching would have to compensate.
 
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