"COVID-19 herd immunity strategy could lead to 'overwhelming death and devastation' "

Bigrunner

EOG Master
Internal white house documents discuss how the Covid infection and fatality numbers are being drastically under counted. Shocker! Trumptard Jack Nicklaus has been preaching the opposite. Him and his wife also injected bleach and took Hydroxychlorquine. What a fuken idiot! Ironically the Golden Trumptard was my favorite golfer growing up.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Many countries have flattened the death curve, as Sweden's infections skyrocket.

Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677

"Sweden on lockdown: Country to bring in local shutdowns to fight coronavirus crisis":
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...kdown-sweden-covid-19-coronavirus-latest-news

"Sweden 'to start lockdowns' as it has world's 12th highest Covid-19 death rate":
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sweden-to-start-lockdowns-worlds-22864690
https://www.thedailyfodder.com/2020/11/no-sweden-isnt-abandoning-its-no.html
 

The author of that article quibbles at length about the use of the term "lockdown" applied to Sweden. Yet even in the early pandemic Sweden was described by its own people as having the feel of a lockdown. Because when the health authorities there recommend something, unlike in the USA, people tend to follow their advice. So now the authorities in Sweden are recommending stricter self lockdown advice, which will lead to Sweden being more locked down than they were in the early pandemic. So Sweden is reversing course & going in the opposite direction of a so-called "herd immunity approach". Which is tantamount to a tacit admission that that approach was a failure.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
The author of that article quibbles at length about the use of the term "lockdown" applied to Sweden. Yet even in the early pandemic Sweden was described by its own people as having the feel of a lockdown. Because when the health authorities there recommend something, unlike in the USA, people tend to follow their advice. So now the authorities in Sweden are recommending stricter self lockdown advice, which will lead to Sweden being more locked down than they were in the early pandemic. So Sweden is reversing course & going in the opposite direction of a so-called "herd immunity approach". Which is tantamount to a tacit admission that that approach was a failure.
When the schools are open, the restaurants are open, health clubs are open, business's are open, mass transit is busy and no one is wearing masks, it's NOT a lockdown.

After 8 months I hardly think it's necessary to keep lying about sweden, they didn't lock down, they're not locked down now, and there's no sign they are going to, they took their hits early, the numbers looked high for awhile, but it's pretty clear in hindsite they took the right approach.
 

jasson621

EOG Dedicated
When the schools are open, the restaurants are open, health clubs are open, business's are open, mass transit is busy and no one is wearing masks, it's NOT a lockdown.

After 8 months I hardly think it's necessary to keep lying about sweden, they didn't lock down, they're not locked down now, and there's no sign they are going to, they took their hits early, the numbers looked high for awhile, but it's pretty clear in hindsite they took the right approach.
A year old knows that Sweden did it right, only the leftist cultist sheep think otherwise.
 
When the schools are open, the restaurants are open, health clubs are open, business's are open, mass transit is busy and no one is wearing masks, it's NOT a lockdown.

But Sweden's high schools & universities were not open during the early pandemic. They were in mandatory lockdown (as distinct from voluntary lockdown).

Many Swedish businesses also closed their doors - IOW they implemented a voluntarily lockdown - & worked from home instead.

After 8 months I hardly think it's necessary to keep lying about sweden, they didn't lock down, they're not locked down now, and there's no sign they are going to,

More quibbling about a word's meaning.

"Faced with the reality of a winter surge, Sweden is finally bringing in some harsher restrictions after months of being one of the few countries with no lockdown":

"... Sweden has now put five of its 21 regions under stricter guidelines as it faces the same problem as much of the rest of Europe: the virus is now spreading faster than it was at its first peak.

"...On October 29, Sweden's Public Health Agency announced stricter new advice for Stockholm, the capital, as well as the counties of Västra Götaland and Östergötland.


"Residents are told not to attend or throw parties, to avoid indoor locations like shops and museums, and to avoid unnecessary trips on public transport. Workplaces have to take more steps to protect people.

It follows similar guidance brought in for the university town of Uppsala on October 19, and for the Skane region — which includes the major city of Malmö — on October 27.

Eva Melander, the doctor in charge of infectious diseases in Skåne, said at a press conference: "It's a very worrying development. We are in a completely different situation from what we were in only a week ago.. Now we need to slam on the emergency brakes to stop this development."

"...Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist and the driving force behind its approach, warned in late October that Sweden was approaching a "critical point" as the number of new cases reported a day rose by 70% in a week.

Sweden's Aftonbladet newspaper reported that, as of last week, coronavirus cases were increasing in 17 of the country's 21 regions.

And The Local Sweden reported that the number of critical care patients in the country has increased.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-brings-in-regional-measures-cases-surge-2020-11


they took their hits early, the numbers looked high for awhile, but it's pretty clear in hindsite they took the right approach.

Many countries have flattened the death curve, as Sweden's infections skyrocket.

Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
But Sweden's high schools & universities were not open during the early pandemic. They were in mandatory lockdown (as distinct from voluntary lockdown).

Many Swedish businesses also closed their doors - IOW they implemented a voluntarily lockdown - & worked from home instead.



More quibbling about a word's meaning.

"Faced with the reality of a winter surge, Sweden is finally bringing in some harsher restrictions after months of being one of the few countries with no lockdown":

"... Sweden has now put five of its 21 regions under stricter guidelines as it faces the same problem as much of the rest of Europe: the virus is now spreading faster than it was at its first peak.

"...On October 29, Sweden's Public Health Agency announced stricter new advice for Stockholm, the capital, as well as the counties of Västra Götaland and Östergötland.


"Residents are told not to attend or throw parties, to avoid indoor locations like shops and museums, and to avoid unnecessary trips on public transport. Workplaces have to take more steps to protect people.

It follows similar guidance brought in for the university town of Uppsala on October 19, and for the Skane region — which includes the major city of Malmö — on October 27.

Eva Melander, the doctor in charge of infectious diseases in Skåne, said at a press conference: "It's a very worrying development. We are in a completely different situation from what we were in only a week ago.. Now we need to slam on the emergency brakes to stop this development."

"...Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist and the driving force behind its approach, warned in late October that Sweden was approaching a "critical point" as the number of new cases reported a day rose by 70% in a week.

Sweden's Aftonbladet newspaper reported that, as of last week, coronavirus cases were increasing in 17 of the country's 21 regions.

And The Local Sweden reported that the number of critical care patients in the country has increased.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-brings-in-regional-measures-cases-surge-2020-11




Many countries have flattened the death curve, as Sweden's infections skyrocket.

Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677
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Many countries have flattened the death curve, as Sweden's infections skyrocket & "the number of critical care patients in the country has increased."

Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677
 
"Finland: Europe's quiet success in COVID-19 fight":

HELSINKI, FINLAND -- As millions across Europe face new lockdown measures to tackle the resurging coronavirus, Finland is bucking the trend: infection rates are falling, while attitudes to restrictions remain the most positive on the continent.

Although much international attention has been focused on next-door Sweden's light-touch response to the virus, Finland has quietly succeeded in keeping infection levels five times below the EU average, with a lesser hit to its economy and one-tenth the number of deaths per capita of its Scandinavian neighbour.

In the last two weeks, the Nordic country has recorded 45.7 new cases per 100,000 population -- the lowest rate in the EU according to the WHO and the only country in the bloc whose rate of new infections has slowed since the previous fortnight.


"The situation looked worrying when there was a rapid growth in infections" earlier in October, the country's top epidemiologist Mika Salminen said last week.

"But it's clear that the peak has passed."

Officials credit the outcome to factors such as early government action, which included a two-month lockdown in March and a ban on travel in and out of the capital.

Since then, society has largely re-opened and an effective test and trace system was developed, revolving around a smartphone app.

The "Corona Flash" application, downloaded 2.5 million times in a country of 5.5 million people, has escaped the privacy or functionality problems that have hit similar initiatives in countries from the UK to Norway.

Like elsewhere in the Nordics, high levels of trust towards authority in Finland have meant that there has been little resistance to the government's measures.

LOCKDOWN ENTHUSIASTS
Not only have Finns followed the rules, but European Parliament research last week found that 23 percent of respondents in the country said that lockdown had actually improved their lives, making Finland the most positive country in Europe towards the coronavirus restrictions.

One reason is likely to be the relative ease of switching to distance working in the highly digitised society.

"The economy is structured so that it's not necessary for a large proportion of the Finnish workforce to be in the workplace," Nelli Hankonen, associate professor of social psychology at Helsinki University, told AFP.

But the national character of the Finns, often characterised as reserved and outdoors-loving, may also have played a part.

"In Finnish culture we are not that highly sociable," Hankonen said.

"We like to be on our own and be a bit isolated."

Nonetheless, the solitude of lockdown has exacerbated mental health issues which already affect one in five people in Finland, the highest rate in the OECD.

"Social support might not be easily available, it's the other side of the coin of how we were able to adapt to the lockdown," Hankonen said.

KEEP SMILING
The number of shoppers and diners on the streets of the capital Helsinki looks almost the same as pre-virus levels.

Few people are wearing masks, although authorities have recently begun recommending them.

"My daily life actually hasn't been affected too much," healthcare assistant Gegi Aydin tells AFP, though his plans to switch careers to graphic design have been disrupted by a lack of job openings.

The 36-year-old also admits that his social life is now more cautious.

"My friends don't really want to meet sometimes, which is understandable."

In the capital's hip Punavuori district, restaurateur Richard McCormick is hanging plants and lights inside a row of protective glass cabins outside his restaurant Yes Yes Yes.

"We're making them look like it's somebody's living room and people can have private dining experiences in them," McCormick said.

Finland's economy shrank by 6.4 percent in the second quarter, considerably less than the EU average of 14 percent, but the hit to the restaurant industry has been "devastating", McCormick said.

An ongoing 50-percent capacity restriction and shorter opening hours mean that his two restaurants have had to lay off many staff.

But with no restrictions on outdoor seating, McCormick said the glass houses "have helped us get most of our teammates back."

We have to "try to find new ways to deal with everyday life and keep smiling," he said.

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Valuist

EOG Master
Wow....some crazy shit in here. "Street crimes probably down". Xfiles WTF has been happening in Portland, Seattle, NYC, Chicago and others? No question lockdowns lead to civil unrest. That was predicted back in March by Gerald Celente. And let's celebrate auto accidents down due to the lockdown. Want to bring them down even more? Let's just put all citizens on house arrest for the next 10 years. That will bring auto accidents down further.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Wow....some crazy shit in here. "Street crimes probably down". Xfiles WTF has been happening in Portland, Seattle, NYC, Chicago and others? No question lockdowns lead to civil unrest. That was predicted back in March by Gerald Celente. And let's celebrate auto accidents down due to the lockdown. Want to bring them down even more? Let's just put all citizens on house arrest for the next 10 years. That will bring auto accidents down further.
There has been civil unrest all over the world from this.
 
Wow....some crazy shit in here. "Street crimes probably down". Xfiles WTF has been happening in Portland, Seattle, NYC, Chicago and others?

You don't measure what's happening in the whole world by a few statistically insignificant events in a few cities. Crime outside the home has been down while the very great vast majority of the world was holed up at home. It's a no brainer.

And let's celebrate auto accidents down due to the lockdown. Want to bring them down even more? Let's just put all citizens on house arrest for the next 10 years. That will bring auto accidents down further.

Don't be ridiculous. The early pandemic hard lockdowns were never intended to last 10 years. Herd immunity, even without a vaccine, would arrive long before then. BTW, Sweden has had a plan to reduce motor vehicle accident deaths to zero:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Swe...ro&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
 
"The Swedish approach is the same failure now than it was in April.

Their number of cases now are almost 3X higher than what it was during the peak they had in June.

June 24--------------1,698
November 4-------4,497

The 7 day average of the number of cases in Sweden has been on a steady increase since beginning of September being almost 20X higher now as of their last day of reporting cases November 5th, it's almost 3X higher than their peak in June.

June 24------------------1,076
September 1----------162
November 5-----------3,068

Of course by some "Stable Genius's' rational thinking measure this is proof of Sweden success and herd immunity :ROFLMAO:
At this point people would have to be mouth pieces or completely out of touch with scientific data/facts to claim Sweden's approach was the correct one, when compared to their Nordic bordering neighbours Denmark, Finland, Norway who all saw the spread of the Coronavirus in the same timeline and they have much more similarities to one another than other countries Sweden has has faired much worse in all categories regarding COVID and their economy has shrunk just as much as those."



https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/swe...a-different-story.710402/page-10#post-6863521
 

MrTop

EOG Master
The reopening of restaurants, gyms and hotels carries the highest danger of spreading Covid-19, according to a study that used mobile phone data from 98 million people to model the risks of infection at different locations.
 

billysink

EOG Dedicated
The next month will be interesting in Sweden. Their numbers and updates have changed, so who really knows. But seems dumb to start to cause panic now and ask citizens to change their behaviors when they are so close to sweet sweet herd immunity


Sweden has now put five of its 21 regions under stricter guidelines as it faces the same problem as much of the rest of Europe: the virus is now spreading faster than it was at its first peak.

On October 29, Sweden's Public Health Agency announced stricter new advice for Stockholm, the capital, as well as the counties of Västra Götaland and Östergötland.




Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist and the driving force behind its approach, warned in late October that Sweden was approaching a "critical point" as the number of new cases reported a day rose by 70% in a week.

Sweden's Aftonbladet newspaper reported that, as of last week, coronavirus cases were increasing in 17 of the country's 21 regions.

And The Local Sweden reported that the number of critical care patients in the country has increased.


Dunkeeforker and that fukkin bag of compost from St. Paul said they had achieved herd immunity

I believe that slobbering parrot Raiders was on board as well.

An adult autistic , a bag of steaming shit and a pet store prize.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
The reopening of restaurants, gyms and hotels carries the highest danger of spreading Covid-19, according to a study that used mobile phone data from 98 million people to model the risks of infection at different locations.
Are any of them closed? other than in a couple crazy states?
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
Trump should send his application in to Norway to help them build a wall to keep the dirty Swedes out

he can make Mexico pay for that one too....

STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Norway on Tuesday recalled Home Guard forces to patrol its land border as neighbouring Sweden reported another surge in COVID-19 cases that is straining hospitals and stretching testing to the limit.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Trump should send his application in to Norway to help them build a wall to keep the dirty Swedes out

he can make Mexico pay for that one too....

STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Norway on Tuesday recalled Home Guard forces to patrol its land border as neighbouring Sweden reported another surge in COVID-19 cases that is straining hospitals and stretching testing to the limit.
here's some news out of North Dakota you'll like.
With North Dakota hospitals at 100% capacity, Burgum announces COVID-positive nurses can stay at work
In an attempt to alleviate some of the staffing concerns, Burgum announced that the state health officer has amended an order that will allow health care workers with asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 to continue working in hospitals' COVID-19 units. The Republican governor said hospital administrators asked the state to take the extraordinary step.
Due to a major shortage of health care staffing, the state's hospitals have a severe lack of available beds. Rising COVID-19 hospitalizations and high noncoronavirus admissions, some resulting from residents who deferred health care earlier in the pandemic, have caused the crunch on medical centers.


Burgum said hospitals are implementing their "surge" plans, and some will be voluntarily stopping elective surgeries to free up staff. He added that the state will coordinate with hospitals to move nurses to medical centers in most dire need of staff.


In an attempt to alleviate some of the staffing concerns, Burgum announced that interim State Health Officer Dirk Wilke has amended an order that will allow health care workers with asymptomatic cases of COVID-19 to continue working in COVID-19 units at hospitals and nursing homes.




The move aligns with "crisis" guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Since only patients with COVID-19 could receive care from doctors and nurses with the virus, Burgum said he believes there will be little risk of more spread. He added that health care workers in COVID-19 units already wear protective gear to prevent them from contracting the virus.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I would close down at 25% capacity unless I was doing a heck of a takeout/grubhub business. No independant can survive on 25%.
Our governor just announced the total lifting of capacity restrictions at all retail and business's - they can now operate at 100%. However he's now shutting down bars and restaurants at 10 pm.
 
But Sweden's high schools & universities were not open during the early pandemic. They were in mandatory lockdown (as distinct from voluntary lockdown).

Many Swedish businesses also closed their doors - IOW they implemented a voluntarily lockdown - & worked from home instead.



More quibbling about a word's meaning.

"Faced with the reality of a winter surge, Sweden is finally bringing in some harsher restrictions after months of being one of the few countries with no lockdown":

"... Sweden has now put five of its 21 regions under stricter guidelines as it faces the same problem as much of the rest of Europe: the virus is now spreading faster than it was at its first peak.

"...On October 29, Sweden's Public Health Agency announced stricter new advice for Stockholm, the capital, as well as the counties of Västra Götaland and Östergötland.


"Residents are told not to attend or throw parties, to avoid indoor locations like shops and museums, and to avoid unnecessary trips on public transport. Workplaces have to take more steps to protect people.

It follows similar guidance brought in for the university town of Uppsala on October 19, and for the Skane region — which includes the major city of Malmö — on October 27.

Eva Melander, the doctor in charge of infectious diseases in Skåne, said at a press conference: "It's a very worrying development. We are in a completely different situation from what we were in only a week ago.. Now we need to slam on the emergency brakes to stop this development."

"...Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist and the driving force behind its approach, warned in late October that Sweden was approaching a "critical point" as the number of new cases reported a day rose by 70% in a week.

Sweden's Aftonbladet newspaper reported that, as of last week, coronavirus cases were increasing in 17 of the country's 21 regions.

And The Local Sweden reported that the number of critical care patients in the country has increased.

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-brings-in-regional-measures-cases-surge-2020-11




Many countries have flattened the death curve, as Sweden's infections skyrocket.

Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677
You aren't getting it. There will be covid in countries with big cities that have a high population density. Just look at the states in the US.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
You aren't getting it. There will be covid in countries with big cities that have a high population density. Just look at the states in the US.


yeah just look at all the huge cities driving the Covid infections in Montana, North Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota

just get rid of the Cities and covid would be gone!























because all the dumb sick farmers would have no real hospitals to get flown to in a helicopter because their bum fuck hospital can't serve them, so Covid wold just wipe out all those pussies and be done with us
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Merlin

Reported deaths lag reported cases
Its not over stupid
No, cases have nothing to do with deaths, hospitalizations are correlated but far fewer people are dying in hospitals than before due to improvements in treatments as well as the virus itself attenuating.
 
No, cases have nothing to do with deaths, hospitalizations are correlated but far fewer people are dying in hospitals than before due to improvements in treatments as well as the virus itself attenuating.

Did you know if they'd quit testing there'd be no more cases?
 

Ray Luca

EOG Master
No, cases have nothing to do with deaths, hospitalizations are correlated but far fewer people are dying in hospitals than before due to improvements in treatments as well as the virus itself attenuating.

2150 deaths projected for Dec 2nd
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Meet you here December 3rd and we will find out
I'm not saying it'll be wrong, it may be, maybe not, I'm saying it's irrelevant. I see ILL had the highest case number in the nation yesterday, what did they do wrong, they've had mask mandates forever, never fully reopened, and the fool gov shut more stuff down weeks ago, none of that worked huh? What a shock.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
2150 deaths projected for Dec 2nd

is that from IHME?

their model tends to underestimated for long term. They can be a bit optimistic about compliance, But they've been pretty close. with every projection they are able to use new data to get a better estimate of compliance. After all a mandate doesn't solve anything if it's not followed.

there are laws against murder and drunk driving. that hasn't got those numbers down to zero, and they have pretty stiff repercussions. So the biggest variable on the models now is Compliance. and that differs by area.

I documented these IHME projections on this site, when they occurred and when the came in, You'll see they undershoot, but getting pretty darn good as they can tweak the model.


May 4th they projected 134,775 by Aug 4 ended up at 144k

In July they projected 224,500 for Nov 1 it ended up at 235k

looks like they have 399k projected for Feb 1

let's hope they aren't optimistic and conservative about that projection

and let's hope the vaccine has something to say about that first.
 

Ray Luca

EOG Master
is that from IHME?

their model tends to underestimated for long term. They can be a bit optimistic about compliance, But they've been pretty close. with every projection they are able to use new data to get a better estimate of compliance. After all a mandate doesn't solve anything if it's not followed.

there are laws against murder and drunk driving. that hasn't got those numbers down to zero, and they have pretty stiff repercussions. So the biggest variable on the models now is Compliance. and that differs by area.

I documented these IHME projections on this site, when they occurred and when the came in, You'll see they undershoot, but getting pretty darn good as they can tweak the model.



May 4th they projected 134,775 by Aug 4 ended up at 144k

In July they projected 224,500 for Nov 1 it ended up at 235k

looks like they have 399k projected for Feb 1

let's hope they aren't optimistic and conservative about that projection

and let's hope the vaccine has something to say about that first.

Its from Trevor Bedford
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I see the russian vaccine is supposed to be 90% effective(92 actually), quite a few countries have already arranged to use their's when it becomes available, by early next year the world will be flooded with vaccine's.
 

kane

EOG master
No worries folks, in a couple of months we'll have someone in the WH who believes in science and will listen to the health experts, Biden has already formed his Covid team and it's filled with some really smart people, Joe will have a plan to combat the virus and not just ignore it and pray it goes away
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
No worries folks, in a couple of months we'll have someone in the WH who believes in science and will listen to the health experts, Biden has already formed his Covid team and it's filled with some really smart people, Joe will have a plan to combat the virus and not just ignore it and pray it goes away
I saw that one clown said we should take all our vaccine and let other countries use it first, great idea. I think he also said everyone should die at age 75 because they're worthless after that. And I'm not making this stuff up.
 
I'm not saying it'll be wrong, it may be, maybe not, I'm saying it's irrelevant. I see ILL had the highest case number in the nation yesterday, what did they do wrong, they've had mask mandates forever, never fully reopened, and the fool gov shut more stuff down weeks ago, none of that worked huh? What a shock.

Logical fallacy. The conclusion does not follow from the premises.

Infections reported can increase due to more testing, more covidiots acting irresponsibly, etc.

Infections numbers do not rise on their own due to no cause or no reason or because of ghosts, lol.. They rise because people act less safely & more foolishly.

Masks are not a "silver bullet". Like condoms & bicycle helmets they do not guarantee 100% Divine protection from all harms (STIs, death, etc) to the wearers.

Health authorities have stated that repeatedly ad nauseum. So people should know their ABC's by now. Unless one is continually tuned out & tuned into social media health "amateur hour" nonsense & the like.

The "masks don't work" & "masks don't do shit" nonsense destroyed once & forever:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-20#post-6857110
 
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