"COVID-19 herd immunity strategy could lead to 'overwhelming death and devastation' "

mr merlin

EOG Master
Logical fallacy. The conclusion does not follow from the premises.

Infections reported can increase due to more testing, more covidiots acting irresponsibly, etc.

Infections numbers do not rise on their own due to no cause or no reason or because of ghosts, lol.. They rise because people act less safely & more foolishly.

Masks are not a "silver bullet". Like condoms & bicycle helmets they do not guarantee 100% Divine protection from all harms (STIs, death, etc) to the wearers.

Health authorities have stated that repeatedly ad nauseum. So people should know their ABC's by now. Unless one is continually tuned out & tuned into social media health "amateur hour" nonsense & the like.

The "masks don't work" & "masks don't do shit" nonsense destroyed once & forever:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-20#post-6857110
Masks dont work and in fact make infections more likely, fact.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
yeah just look at all the huge cities driving the Covid infections in Montana, North Dakota, Iowa, Nebraska, South Dakota

just get rid of the Cities and covid would be gone!























because all the dumb sick farmers would have no real hospitals to get flown to in a helicopter because their bum fuck hospital can't serve them, so Covid wold just wipe out all those pussies and be done with us
It's a little early but it appears new cases in the dakotas might have peaked, stay tuned. at a min they have stopped rising.
 

Chi_Archie

EOG Veteran
It's a little early but it appears new cases in the dakotas might have peaked, stay tuned. at a min they have stopped rising.


Merlin Landers strikes again, it's uncanny.
Both Dakotas set new high records in new cases

PIERRE, S.D. (KELO) — For the first time, more than 2,000 new coronavirus cases were reported in South Dakota in Thursday’s update from the state health department.
On Thursday, 2,020 coronavirus cases were announced
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Giving fair warning, if you want to stock up on groceries, today would be a good day before the masses hit the stores.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Merlin Landers strikes again, it's uncanny.
Both Dakotas set new high records in new cases

PIERRE, S.D. (KELO) — For the first time, more than 2,000 new coronavirus cases were reported in South Dakota in Thursday’s update from the state health department.
On Thursday, 2,020 coronavirus cases were announced
ND had a notice that todays high cases were a result of a backlog, so that's fake news.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
Just got back, it was packed, elbow to elbow, no masks, no social distancing, people are apparently not listening to the kooks.
It's a matter of time. I had two accounts close today from the virus, two others limiting to current members only.
 

billysink

EOG Dedicated
All these fritter brained rednecks crying about shutdowns and the economy, 300k cases in two days.

They ain't going to work tomorrow, nor are their family members.


Key to a rip roaring economy.....get real sick, stay home. X 300k.
 

FairWarning

Bells Beer Connoisseur
All these fritter brained rednecks crying about shutdowns and the economy, 300k cases in two days.

They ain't going to work tomorrow, nor are their family members.


Key to a rip roaring economy.....get real sick, stay home. X 300k.
They are crying in the cities also.
 

Bigrunner

EOG Master
You aren't getting it. There will be covid in countries with big cities that have a high population density. Just look at the states in the US.

Raiders the Retard wrong again when he claimed herd immunity worked in Sweden. Their Prime Minister odering bars and restaurants to close early, not allowing and events like concerts and theatres. Sweden has 10x the cases as their neighbors Finland and Norway. How can someone be so consistently wrong as Raiders the Retard? Firstoff you have to be a right winger where facts don't matter!
 
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mr merlin

EOG Master
Raiders the Retard wrong again when he claimed herd immunity worked in Sweden. Their Prime Minister odering bars and restaurants to close early, not allowing and events like concerts and theatres. Sweden has 10x the cases as their neighbors Finland and Norway. How can someone be so consistently wrong as Raiders the Retard? Firstoff you have to be a right winger where facts don't matter!
Bars open, restaurants open, schools open, no one wears masks, they're doing just fine.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Did I hear correctly? Sweden shuts down? Was Raiders wrong again? Was Dumb Monkey wrong again?
Nope, very little has changed, they have limited gathering size but otherwise schools, restaurants, bars , etc are all open and no one wears a mask.
 
Bars open, restaurants open, schools open, no one wears masks, they're doing just fine.

"Face mask sales soar as Swedes eye potential guideline change":
https://ca.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN25R22Q


"Sweden is shutting down bars and restaurants where people defied social distancing guidelines":

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-closing-bars-that-defied-social-distancing-guidelines-2020-4

"Sweden toughens up restrictions as coronavirus cases rise...
On Monday, it announced that public gatherings of more than eight people were no longer allowed...



“This is the new norm for the entire society,” Lofven told a news conference, Reuters reported. “Don’t go to gyms, don’t go to libraries, don’t host dinners. Cancel.”

...Sweden advised the public to practice good personal hygiene, social distancing and to work from home if possible.

... last week it announced that alcohol sales in bars and restaurants after 10 p.m. would be banned from Nov. 20.

...the death rate per capita in Sweden is several times higher than that of its Nordic neighbors
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/17/swe...irus-rules-as-infections-and-deaths-rise.html


"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
"Face mask sales soar as Swedes eye potential guideline change":
https://ca.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN25R22Q


"Sweden is shutting down bars and restaurants where people defied social distancing guidelines":

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-closing-bars-that-defied-social-distancing-guidelines-2020-4

"Sweden toughens up restrictions as coronavirus cases rise...
On Monday, it announced that public gatherings of more than eight people were no longer allowed...



“This is the new norm for the entire society,” Lofven told a news conference, Reuters reported. “Don’t go to gyms, don’t go to libraries, don’t host dinners. Cancel.”

...Sweden advised the public to practice good personal hygiene, social distancing and to work from home if possible.

... last week it announced that alcohol sales in bars and restaurants after 10 p.m. would be banned from Nov. 20.

...the death rate per capita in Sweden is several times higher than that of its Nordic neighbors
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/17/swe...irus-rules-as-infections-and-deaths-rise.html


"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"
The fact that a few might have been shut down doesn't change the fact that almost all are open. You sure love your fake news, why? For instance face masks are not required anywhere, not even at dr's or dentists, or public transport, that is the truth.
 
The fact that a few might have been shut down doesn't change the fact that almost all are open. You sure love your fake news, why? For instance face masks are not required anywhere, not even at dr's or dentists, or public transport, that is the truth.

So what. You ignored most of my post. And Sweden's 3 Nordic neighbours did not require masks either yet have been a success compared to Sweden's dismall failure:

"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"

Sweden is getting more restrictive & increasingly abandoning their open society early pandemic "herd immunity" approach. It failed.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
So what. You ignored most of my post. And Sweden's 3 Nordic neighbours did not require masks either yet have been a success compared to Sweden's dismall failure:

"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"

Sweden is getting more restrictive & increasingly abandoning their open society early pandemic "herd immunity" approach. It failed.
failed? that's rather funny when their economy remains almost completely open, while their neighbors are in many cases in total lockdown with all freedoms stripped away.
That looks like the opposite of failure to me.

The simple fact is swedens death rate and case rate is far below most other european countries. And their rate is rising slowly, while others are back in high speed rise.
 
failed? that's rather funny when their economy remains almost completely open,

Did you even read my post. Sweden's economy is doing no better than their 3 Nordic neighbours, while Sweden has had way more deaths. That equals Sweden being a relative big fat flop of a failure.

while their neighbors are in many cases in total lockdown with all freedoms stripped away.

Nonsense. None of their neighbours have ever been in total lockdown. In fact, no where in the world was any country in total lockdown.

Furthermore Sweden's 3 neighbours have often been just as open as Sweden. You demonstrate repeatedly that you have no clue what you're talking about.


The simple fact is swedens death rate and case rate is far below most other european countries. And their rate is rising slowly, while others are back in high speed rise.

That's like comparing apples with banana peels. If you want to compare like with like then look at Sweden's 3 Nordic neighbours for a comparison:

"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"

Sweden is getting more restrictive & increasingly abandoning their open society early pandemic "herd immunity" approach. It failed.

For further reading re Sweden compared with its 3 Nordic neighbours & other European countries & masks:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-16#post-6852732
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-21#post-6859993
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-20#post-6857110
Ontario:
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/some-masks-better-than-others.726027/page-24#post-6863594
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/some-masks-better-than-others.726027/page-24#post-6864534

post 210
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-11
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/loc...nfectious-disease-expert.727689/#post-6842941
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-14#post-6844161
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/loc...ous-disease-expert.727689/page-2#post-6845028
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/loc...ous-disease-expert.727689/page-2#post-6845059
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/loc...ous-disease-expert.727689/page-2#post-6845078
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-14#post-6844214
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-14#post-6845010

"After Months of Minimal COVID-19 Containment, Sweden Appears to Be Considering a New Approach":
https://time.com/5901352/sweden-local-lockdowns/

"Sweden on lockdown: Country to bring in local shutdowns to fight coronavirus crisis":
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...kdown-sweden-covid-19-coronavirus-latest-news

"Sweden 'to start lockdowns' as it has world's 12th highest Covid-19 death rate":
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sweden-to-start-lockdowns-worlds-22864690

excellent article:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...-s-lax-pandemic-policies-face-fierce-backlash
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Did you even read my post. Sweden's economy is doing no better than their 3 Nordic neighbours, while Sweden has had way more deaths. That equals Sweden being a relative big fat flop of a failure.



Nonsense. None of their neighbours have ever been in total lockdown. In fact, no where in the world was any country in total lockdown.

Furthermore Sweden's 3 neighbours have often been just as open as Sweden. You demonstrate repeatedly that you have no clue what you're talking about.




That's like comparing apples with banana peels. If you want to compare like with like then look at Sweden's 3 Nordic neighbours for a comparison:

"Sweden has way more total deaths than their 3 Nordic neighbours (Norway, Finland, Denmark) combined while Sweden has a 50% larger population than the 3 of them combined. And Sweden is no better off economically. Clearly hard lockdowns, as occurred in those 3 nations, were the superior choice to Sweden's soft voluntary isolation approach.

Sweden dead = 5,918
Norway dead = 278
Finland dead = 346
Denmark dead = 677"

Sweden is getting more restrictive & increasingly abandoning their open society early pandemic "herd immunity" approach. It failed.

For further reading re Sweden compared with its 3 Nordic neighbours & other European countries & masks:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-16#post-6852732
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-21#post-6859993
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-20#post-6857110
Ontario:
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/some-masks-better-than-others.726027/page-24#post-6863594
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/some-masks-better-than-others.726027/page-24#post-6864534

post 210
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-11
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/loc...nfectious-disease-expert.727689/#post-6842941
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-14#post-6844161
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/loc...ous-disease-expert.727689/page-2#post-6845028
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/loc...ous-disease-expert.727689/page-2#post-6845059
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/loc...ous-disease-expert.727689/page-2#post-6845078
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-14#post-6844214
https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/why-most-masks-dont-work.726027/page-14#post-6845010

"After Months of Minimal COVID-19 Containment, Sweden Appears to Be Considering a New Approach":
https://time.com/5901352/sweden-local-lockdowns/

"Sweden on lockdown: Country to bring in local shutdowns to fight coronavirus crisis":
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...kdown-sweden-covid-19-coronavirus-latest-news

"Sweden 'to start lockdowns' as it has world's 12th highest Covid-19 death rate":
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/sweden-to-start-lockdowns-worlds-22864690

excellent article:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...-s-lax-pandemic-policies-face-fierce-backlash
You live in a dreamland, of course you can compare sweden to most other european countries, just as you can compare Wi with SD, or NB with Mn, or Mass with NJ, - even though they dont touch.

Picking and choosing to prove points does the opposite, it shows your point is weak, not strong.
 
You live in a dreamland, of course you can compare sweden to most other european countries, just as you can compare Wi with SD, or NB with Mn, or Mass with NJ, - even though they dont touch.

Picking and choosing to prove points does the opposite, it shows your point is weak, not strong.

Sweden shares many more societal norms with their 3 Nordic neighbours that they don't share with other European countries. And obviously they share a similar location up isolated in Northern Europe. They generally all didn't wear masks, either. And they all generally follow health guidelines, moreso than many others. Furthermore, if you had read the links i posted you'ld realize why those 3 Nordic countries is an apples with apples comparison proving Sweden as an utter failure. And you'ld realize why its invalid & ignorant to mention comparisons with other countries.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Sweden shares many more societal norms with their 3 Nordic neighbours that they don't share with other European countries. And obviously they share a similar location up isolated in Northern Europe. They generally all didn't wear masks, either. And they all generally follow health guidelines, moreso than many others. Furthermore, if you had read the links i posted you'ld realize why those 3 Nordic countries is an apples with apples comparison proving Sweden as an utter failure. And you'ld realize why its invalid & ignorant to mention comparisons with other countries.
I disagree, the good news is that no one in Sweden cares about your blather either.
 
Amazing that some people thought and some still think measures opposite to the scientific data would have a different result than what was predicted.

"Sweden has unveiled tougher restrictions to fight coronavirus as Europe’s outlier on Covid-19 is forced to step up measures to fight the virus as it faces surging numbers of cases and deaths.

Warning that the situation was “going to get worse”, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said on Monday the limit on public gatherings in Sweden would be cut from 50 people to eight.
“It is a clear and sharp signal to every person in our country as to what applies in the future. Don’t go to the gym, don’t go the library, don’t have dinner out, don’t have parties — cancel!” Mr Lofven told a press conference.


Sweden has stood out from the rest of Europe by refusing to order a legal lockdown and instead preferring to rely on recommendations to people to wash their hands, keep a distance, and work from home.

The country’s health authorities said in the spring that Sweden was unlikely to be hit by a second wave as it suffered more deaths than its Nordic neighbours in the first wave. But Sweden’s cases per capita, hospitalisations and deaths are all increasing rapidly now.

"Sweden’s cases per capita are currently 10 times higher than Finland and four times higher than Norway. Last week, the rate at which people were being admitted into hospital was growing faster in Sweden than any other European country. And after several months of relatively low numbers of deaths, Sweden reported more than 100 in three days last week."

Full article.
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https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/swe...a-different-story.710402/page-12#post-6871819
 

billysink

EOG Dedicated
Nope, very little has changed, they have limited gathering size but otherwise schools, restaurants, bars , etc are all open and no one wears a mask.

Guy the closest you been to Sweden is what? Stuck in traffic in front of Volvo dealership? Your an inbred parrot troll who gets his info from some D grade shit shover on Whitey News.

You wrong here as usual.

Go fukk self. thx
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Guy the closest you been to Sweden is what? Stuck in traffic in front of Volvo dealership? Your an inbred parrot troll who gets his info from some D grade shit shover on Whitey News.

You wrong here as usual.

Go fukk self. thx
Does this mean you wont be sending me a Christmas gift? Hurtful sir.
 
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