definitive proof we never went to moon--try to defy me
click this and you need realplayer ... get out of your paradigms, peeps, this matrix of Moon hoax is about to be shattered.
Dime;
You're totally off course on calling the Apollo program moon landings hoaxes.
Let's focus on the video it's not "definitive proof" of anything it's just your interpretation of it.
You said:
watch the flag football rag in Naut's back pocket (happens off the bat for close to a minute), and please explain how this could be possible ...
Well watching the video it looked like the flap of a backpack lifting up in the low moon gravity as the 2 astronauts were collecting samples.
You challenge someone to "defy you"?that's how a true believer would describe it if anyone questioned their view.
As opposed to the 1 time/day[in execution] event that the 9/11 conspiracy pulled off,just the missions of the Apollo program ran almost 10 years,and the sheer number of people involved would make it easier to actually land on the moon then maintain a cover-up of such immense proportions.
Where was the line between fakery and reality in your opinion.All those Saturn V's witnessed by the public weren't launched?The technical and support people at Cape Canaveral were involved?The astronauts,recovery teams?How many people using 60's/70's technology would've been needed to recreate a lie on a sound stage?
Below from;
http://www.nasm.si.edu/collections/imagery/Apollo/apollolaunches.htm
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Apollo Launches
Saturn IB (AS-2xx) and Saturn V (AS-5xx)
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Mission</TD><TD noWrap width="9%" height=19><CENTER>
Image </CENTER></TD><TD noWrap width="10%" height=19>
Vehicle</TD><TD width="15%" height=19>
Launch</TD><TD width="6%" height=19>
Pad</TD><TD width="41%" height=19>
Mission Goals/Milestones</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-201</TD><TD noWrap width="10%"></TD><TD noWrap width="9%"></TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn 1B</TD><TD width="15%">
26 Feb 1966</TD><TD width="6%">34</TD><TD width="41%">
Launch vehicle development; suborbital</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-202</TD><TD noWrap width="10%"></TD><TD noWrap width="9%"></TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn 1B</TD><TD width="15%">
25 Aug 1966</TD><TD width="6%">34</TD><TD width="41%">
Repeat AS201; suborbital; test heat shield</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-203</TD><TD noWrap width="10%"></TD><TD noWrap width="9%"></TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn 1B</TD><TD width="15%">
5 Jul 1966</TD><TD width="6%">
37B </TD><TD width="41%">
Repeat AS201; test liquid hydrogen systems</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-501</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 4</TD><TD noWrap width="9%"></TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
9 Nov 1967</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
First Saturn V launch</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-204</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 5</TD><TD noWrap width="9%"></TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn 1B</TD><TD width="15%">
22 Jan 1968</TD><TD width="6%">
37B </TD><TD width="41%">
First Lunar Module launch</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-502</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 6</TD><TD noWrap width="9%"></TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
4 Apr 1968</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Launch vehicle development</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-205</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 7</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
37k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn 1B</TD><TD width="15%">
11 Oct 1968</TD><TD width="6%">
34</TD><TD width="41%">
Manned test of command-service module
crew: Schirra, Eisele, Cunningham
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AS-503</TD><TD noWrap width="10%" height=43>
Apollo 8</TD><TD noWrap width="9%" height=43>
30k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%" height=43>
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%" height=43>
21 Dec 1968</TD><TD width="6%" height=43>
39A</TD><TD width="41%" height=43>
Manned test of Saturn V and lunar orbit
crew: Borman, Lovell, Anders
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-504</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 9</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
41k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
3 Mar 1969</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Manned test of lunar hardware in earth orbit
crew: McDivitt, Scott, Schweickart
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-505</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 10</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
25k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
18 May 1969</TD><TD width="6%">
39B</TD><TD width="41%">
Manned test of lunar hardware near moon
crew: Stafford, Young, Cernan
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-506</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 11</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
14k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
16 Jul 1969</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Lunar Landing; Landing site: Sea of Tranquillity
crew: Armstrong, Collins, Aldrin
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-507</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 12</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
29k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
14 Nov 1969</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Deploy lunar experiments; investigate Surveyor III; Landing site: Ocean of Storms
crew: Conrad, Gordon, Bean
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-508</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 13</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
19k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
11 Apr 1970</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Lunar mission aborted; Landing site: Fra Mauro (Intended); crew: Lovell, Swigert, Haise </TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-509</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 14</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
34k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
31 Jan 1971</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Deploy lunar experiments; photograph later sites
Landing site: Fra Mauro
crew: Shepard, Roosa, Mitchell
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-510</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 15</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
20k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
26 Jul 1971</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Extended investigations with lunar rover
Landing site: Hadley-Apennine
crew: Scott, Worden, Irwin
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-511</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 16</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
48k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
16 Apr 1972</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Exploration of the lunar highlands and the Cayley formation
Landing site: Descartes
crew: Young, Mattingly, Duke
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-512</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Apollo 17</TD><TD noWrap width="9%">
24k jpeg</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
7 Dec 1972</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Exploration of Taurus-Littrow region; return largest load of lunar samples
Landing site: Taurus-Littrow
crew: Cernan, Evans, Schmitt
</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-513</TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Skylab 1</TD><TD noWrap width="9%"></TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn V</TD><TD width="15%">
14 May 1973</TD><TD width="6%">
39A</TD><TD width="41%">
Used to build Skylab Orbital Workshop</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD noWrap width="9%">
AS-210</TD><TD width="10%">
ASTP</TD><TD noWrap width="9%"></TD><TD noWrap width="10%">
Saturn 1B</TD><TD width="15%">
15 July 1975</TD><TD width="6%">
39B</TD><TD width="41%">
crew: Stafford, Slayton, Brand</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
i will give you a hint, it was done on a sound stage in NV with Disney's help and the apollo 11 mission, anyhow, was directed by Stanley Kubrick ...
Stanley Kubrick was a perfectionist,it took him years to finish 1 movie.Yet you suggest he worked for Disney in his spare time pulling off the greatest swindle ever.
You can't be serious about any of this total nonsense.
Another thing motive.what is it?
Why would the US government go to such great lengths to stage fake lunar landings,when the resources and expertise were available to actually do it.
</CENTER><DT> <DT>[SIZE=+1]Fig. 1 Aldrin shown here unpacking experiments. Shock absorbers shown here (RED arrows) are not covered in foil but are wrapped in a black material. Photo by a NASA astronaut. Image source: 5927 NASA.jpg[/SIZE] <DT> <DT> <DT> <DT><CENTER>
</CENTER><DT> <DT>[SIZE=+1]Fig. 2 - Another photo from the moon, not showing the ladder side of the lander. This image looks like a toy model. Why would so much gold foil be missing? The pieces on the lunar surface clearly do not add up to the amount of gold foil missing from the Lander.[/SIZE] <DT> <DT>[SIZE=+1]Compare the gold foil covering the legs of the lander (WHITE arrow) with the previous image in Figure 1. It does not match. RED arrow - Note shock absorber pairs on each Lander strut do not have foil but some other type of covering, probably for insulation. Source: 
</CENTER><DT> <DT>[SIZE=+1]Fig. 2a Closeup of strut on Lunar surface. Note shock absorber (RED arrow) is covered with foil in this photo, not the black wrapping material we see in previous images. This was also supposedly taken on the Moon's surface by an astronaut.[/SIZE] <DT>[SIZE=+1]Image source: 
</CENTER><DT><CENTER> </CENTER><DT> <DT>[SIZE=+1]Fig. 3 - This official image is also from a NASA website. Note the thin ladder shown here. (This ladder is not visible in Fig. 1.) Source: 