Do You Need A Line Service To Win
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JJ line service is always good. Seeing all the books on the screen at once getting hit is great. Do you remember back in the day the sports tracker by sporting news if I recall correctly with live odds and I mean LIVE odds/injuries from Vegas? 3" by 6" with a large antenna? You could plug it in your car lighter to charge.
DBC Corporation was owner and ran of Fm frequency, the scores were from LVSC and real time as were the lines (roxy) was in charge then.
It was 39.95 a month Son and their sister product Quote Trek is still in service by same company. I believe now it is owned by cbs marketwatch.
Here is what it kind of looked like but the new PDs have taken over
It was 39.95 a month Son and their sister product Quote Trek is still in service by same company. I believe now it is owned by cbs marketwatch.
Here is what it kind of looked like but the new PDs have taken over
Moony way way back.
I was an original subscriber to Jim Feist before the internet really was around you had to telnet with a Dos shell account into their computers and they had Vegas casinos and island 1 and island 2 lines.
I also had Don Best when you needed a 3.5 floppy to install and also had sportsignal (wirless one and cable version) and sportscreen (on tv with box)
I was an original subscriber to Jim Feist before the internet really was around you had to telnet with a Dos shell account into their computers and they had Vegas casinos and island 1 and island 2 lines.
I also had Don Best when you needed a 3.5 floppy to install and also had sportsignal (wirless one and cable version) and sportscreen (on tv with box)
Pancho Sanza
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He's about as sharp as a bag of wet mice.:smokesmal :+waving-5
I think a line service is an invaluable tool for any gambler to have. Knowing the current market conditions is crucial before putting your money out blindley. An astute fund manger would never make an investment without knowing the current stock market conditions, and the same should apply to sports betting. Treating it as such is the one of the steps in possibly being successful imo.
jjgold said:
Don Best is in a class by themselves..top notch.
VegasMike01
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Cadillac; if you have not seen GJ yet I suggest you take a look.
Vegas Insider not really in the same league as GJ/DB because you can only look at like 9 books at a time I think. Also, it is not the only service with real-time vegas lines anymore (hint..)
So many uses for a line service, that it is hard to imagine not having one. But that doesnt mean that there are sharp guys out there getting by just fine without one.
Vegas Insider not really in the same league as GJ/DB because you can only look at like 9 books at a time I think. Also, it is not the only service with real-time vegas lines anymore (hint..)
So many uses for a line service, that it is hard to imagine not having one. But that doesnt mean that there are sharp guys out there getting by just fine without one.
VegasMike01
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SBR_John said:
I am a fan of SBRs lines too. It has its kinks that need to be worked out as with any new product. But I am sure you guys will stay on top of it. I used to praise Lander's work, and while I still think he made a good product, it is old technology now and doesnt compare to your service.
Yes, I feel you do need a line service. The half points add up and as long as you have the outs on the screen you are using it pays for itself. G @ J is easily the best out there. $250 a month and you get all the big shops like Olympic, Cris, Grande, Cascade, hollywood and more importantly PINNY LIVE INTERNET LINE.
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The General
Another Day, Another Dollar
Most people lose because of Money Management mistakes not because they do not pay for a line service.
Well there you have it boys Krackman a very respected man in the offshore world says G-J is the best product out there. Yes I also have been pumping them as they have caught DB. I really do not like the guy Sunny that runs the joint as he thinks he is a tough guy but I do not let it get in the way of the product and cheap price.
DB has to lower its price.
SBR lines is a very nice product also and running smooth and it is free.
Pete good point about money management
DB has to lower its price.
SBR lines is a very nice product also and running smooth and it is free.
Pete good point about money management
JJ, take a quick look ar our site. It's being upgraded daily. If your not a paid member you can get a look at the 'screen'. Just click on the tutorial. We're right on schedule. What if we added some of the important off shores ? Would kinda ruin DBs lunch at $24.95 a season. I'm just daydreaming. Don't pay any attention to me......Scotty S
I hate to pile on DB here but I'm also a G&J fan. I think that a line service is a must. Most should pay but those that don't should check out the free services. Not only will it help you immediately to get the best price but it'll steer you to a book that you should add. If you keep seeing the best price for the type of wager that you are making then you better add that book.
VegasMike01
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raiders72001 said:
Scotty, you have a screen? One with more than just those 2 books and the fantasy thing? If so I would love to see it. Also, I have been wanting you to stop into our office one day. I have a few things I wanted to talk to you about.
Rick - Don Best
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I?ve been so busy that I have not been able to post much, but I couldn?t pass up this one.
To answer the original question, yes you absolutely need a line service if want to maximize your winning potential. Depending on the size of your wagers, you may be able to get by with a free service, but if you are betting $100 or more per game, you are leaving money on the table by not using at least our Express Odds service.
Even if you don?t have a ton of outs, being able to see what is going on throughout the entire market is imperative to making good decisions. Let me give you an example; just about everybody has 7 on <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
ffice:smarttags" /><st1lace w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">Utah</st1:State></st1lace> tonight. Say all of your outs have 7 and you want to make a play on the favorite. Instead of just laying 7 now, you could monitor the market and wait for some kind of movement. If you see a handful of books go to 7.5, you can then jump on the 7 at one of your outs. However, by waiting you have a chance for the game to drop to 6.5 before you make your play.
In addition, with Express Odds you have all of the latest injury and weather information available to you at the click of your mouse. Despite what other sites may claim, nobody has injuries as fast, thorough or accurate as we do. We simply have more experience and dedicate more resources (both personnel and technologic) than anybody else.
So to answer JJ?s second questions of what are we going to do; we are going to continue to provide the best information via the best product available, just like we have for almost 15 years. We have experienced our biggest customer count increase in 3 years, so until our customers tell us different, we will stick with the best information/product approach.
For Scotty - I have refrained from commenting on your posts out of respect for you, but if you are going to start making false accusations about our company, I will not just sit by.
Thanks,
Rick
ricka@donbest.com
To answer the original question, yes you absolutely need a line service if want to maximize your winning potential. Depending on the size of your wagers, you may be able to get by with a free service, but if you are betting $100 or more per game, you are leaving money on the table by not using at least our Express Odds service.
Even if you don?t have a ton of outs, being able to see what is going on throughout the entire market is imperative to making good decisions. Let me give you an example; just about everybody has 7 on <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
ffice:smarttags" /><st1lace w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">Utah</st1:State></st1lace> tonight. Say all of your outs have 7 and you want to make a play on the favorite. Instead of just laying 7 now, you could monitor the market and wait for some kind of movement. If you see a handful of books go to 7.5, you can then jump on the 7 at one of your outs. However, by waiting you have a chance for the game to drop to 6.5 before you make your play. In addition, with Express Odds you have all of the latest injury and weather information available to you at the click of your mouse. Despite what other sites may claim, nobody has injuries as fast, thorough or accurate as we do. We simply have more experience and dedicate more resources (both personnel and technologic) than anybody else.
So to answer JJ?s second questions of what are we going to do; we are going to continue to provide the best information via the best product available, just like we have for almost 15 years. We have experienced our biggest customer count increase in 3 years, so until our customers tell us different, we will stick with the best information/product approach.
For Scotty - I have refrained from commenting on your posts out of respect for you, but if you are going to start making false accusations about our company, I will not just sit by.
Thanks,
Rick
ricka@donbest.com
VegasMike01
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I agree with Rick on this one. If they have the customer base at $550 then that is what they should charge. Product-wise, I do see us as equals, customer and success wise its not even close... yet. And for the record, I wouldnt care if we ever became #1. #2 in an industry that was thought to be 'closed' for so many years is no small feat. Despite how hard we work at G&J, and no matter how great our product is DonBest is not going anywhere soon, and honestly I wouldnt want them to. DB is as good for GJ as GJ is for DB. We both fuel each other (whether Rick will admit it or not) and because of that, the end-user will always get a superp product, no matter which way they decide to go.
Rick - Don Best
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Mike is right (somebody slap me:+signs8-0 ). Competition is great for everybody, especially the customers. We have never been a company to sit on our laurels, so when competition does come along, we are always ready. It?s a simple concept, build a great product and offer great service and the consumer will tell you how you are doing.
Thanks
Rick
ricka@donbest.com
Thanks
Rick
ricka@donbest.com
Ricky how can you charge $100 a month for a delayed service when SBR lines are free and real time and top books on their screen?
Ricky it should be $40 a month (express service)
Man your lucky I like you Ricky and keep up excellent work but as you know I am the number one watchdog for line services
Good Luck
Ricky it should be $40 a month (express service)
Man your lucky I like you Ricky and keep up excellent work but as you know I am the number one watchdog for line services
Good Luck
When everyone has the same service and the same info and the same everything else then where does an actual advantage come in? Obviously the guys that own/run the services wil lthink you need one.
If everyone else has the same service you do what makes it so valuable? You are going to see the same thing they do at the same time. Well maybe a split second sooner or later depending on your internet connection.
I guess INTERPRETING the info will be the only difference. Some guys might be contrarian so they go anti steam, while some guys will chase the steam. But either way they will be getting the info, moves, prices at pretty much the same time.
The only time people have a real advantage is if they get some sort of insight before everyone else gets it. Or they utilize something that no else has to gain some sort of an advatage.
But if you have 100o guys all with the same service do any of them have an advantgae over the other, and really do they have an advantage over someone who is checking lines at the books they have accounts at? They are in the same boat as the guys that act slow when they see something on the screen. Because how many of the 1000 guys are actually going to get in in time to get the "best" offering? Especially if they are all waiting for the same thing.
If everyone else has the same service you do what makes it so valuable? You are going to see the same thing they do at the same time. Well maybe a split second sooner or later depending on your internet connection.
I guess INTERPRETING the info will be the only difference. Some guys might be contrarian so they go anti steam, while some guys will chase the steam. But either way they will be getting the info, moves, prices at pretty much the same time.
The only time people have a real advantage is if they get some sort of insight before everyone else gets it. Or they utilize something that no else has to gain some sort of an advatage.
But if you have 100o guys all with the same service do any of them have an advantgae over the other, and really do they have an advantage over someone who is checking lines at the books they have accounts at? They are in the same boat as the guys that act slow when they see something on the screen. Because how many of the 1000 guys are actually going to get in in time to get the "best" offering? Especially if they are all waiting for the same thing.
VegasMike01
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One excellent point Want;
When everyone has the same service and the same info and the same everything else then where does an actual advantage come in?
That is where I believe the true value of G&J comes in. We do not yet have near the customer base of DB (and it is possible that we never will). What we are good at is accurate information and lightning quick injuries. For instance, today we sent an injury out in MLB. 10 minutes later DB sent out the same injury. The second DB sent it out the screen painted and the number moved down 15 cents and more at almost every book on our screen (over 47). So what is having information 10 minutes before the line moves worth to you? To many people, it is worth a lot more than $250 a month, and that is where we get our users.
There are more reasons one should have a line service, but like with anything people like to have an edge. So dont expect people to come out of the woodwork to teach you all the ways to make money by using a line service.
When everyone has the same service and the same info and the same everything else then where does an actual advantage come in?
That is where I believe the true value of G&J comes in. We do not yet have near the customer base of DB (and it is possible that we never will). What we are good at is accurate information and lightning quick injuries. For instance, today we sent an injury out in MLB. 10 minutes later DB sent out the same injury. The second DB sent it out the screen painted and the number moved down 15 cents and more at almost every book on our screen (over 47). So what is having information 10 minutes before the line moves worth to you? To many people, it is worth a lot more than $250 a month, and that is where we get our users.
There are more reasons one should have a line service, but like with anything people like to have an edge. So dont expect people to come out of the woodwork to teach you all the ways to make money by using a line service.
VegasMike01
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Moon88 said:
Washington, 3 key players 10 min before DB. I believe those were sent out about 12:45.
Rick - Don Best
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Want,
For movers or steam-chasers, your point has some validity. However, most of our customers are just regular bettors looking for the best price. They use our service to find it and then to help them know when to bet it.
Thanks,
Rick
ricka@donbest.com
For movers or steam-chasers, your point has some validity. However, most of our customers are just regular bettors looking for the best price. They use our service to find it and then to help them know when to bet it.
Thanks,
Rick
ricka@donbest.com
Rick - Don Best
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Moon,
If you are looking for injuries, I assure you that you will not find better information than we provide.
Nobody can get every injury first, but we do over 90% of the time.
Thanks,
Rick
ricka@donbest.com
If you are looking for injuries, I assure you that you will not find better information than we provide.
Nobody can get every injury first, but we do over 90% of the time.
Thanks,
Rick
ricka@donbest.com
VegasMike01
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Rick - Don Best said:
I respectfully disagree, but encourage anyone to see for themselves.
Rick - Don Best
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Mike and I have come a long way. Pretty soon we will be eating lunch together!
VegasMike01
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Rick - Don Best said:
Watch it.... thats how rumors get started. btw, I havent seen a Nora's in summerlin.
Rick - Don Best
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It is on the northwest corner of Charleston and Rampart, next to the Banana Republic. I saw some people going in and out last week, so they must be getting close to opening.