EOG's Code of Conduct (Effective Immediately)
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Blackcloud
EOG Dedicated
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Cobbie asking some pointed questions. Didn't see that disallowed so I think he is on firm footing.
Cobbie asking some pointed questions. Didn't see that disallowed so I think he is on firm footing.
Blackcloud
EOG Dedicated
Re: EOG's Code of Conduct (Effective Immediately)
Can we get a weekly update of posters on the bubble who are playing their way out at EOG?
Maybe a "last 4 in" at the current time.
Can we get a weekly update of posters on the bubble who are playing their way out at EOG?
Maybe a "last 4 in" at the current time.
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Free Brock! Time for a thread!
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Free Brock! Time for a thread!
Re: EOG's Code of Conduct (Effective Immediately)
Need a poster like Landers for this. He will have his "army of haters" lined up chomping at the bit. Can they follow the "C-O-C"?
Need a poster like Landers for this. He will have his "army of haters" lined up chomping at the bit. Can they follow the "C-O-C"?
Re: EOG's Code of Conduct (Effective Immediately)
"Well, in a sense, you could say that... I am the boss, when Mr Green is away. You could say that."
-- Ace Rothstein in Casino
"Well, in a sense, you could say that... I am the boss, when Mr Green is away. You could say that."
-- Ace Rothstein in Casino
Re: EOG's Code of Conduct (Effective Immediately)
Personally, I don't have a big problem with a moderator censoring antagonistic speech on a discussion board.
The First Amendment restrains governments from censoring speech, not private actors such as the owners of a website.
To me, the more apt comparison is to someone having a party at their house. If someone comes to my party and rudely insults and tries to pick fights with my other guests, they're either going to have to stop that behavior or leave. And they of course won't be invited back to do the same thing again.
A full-time moderator arguably is the best way to keep things on track. From what I've seen here in the past, it looks like dysfunctional conduct is more or less tolerated for a period of time until management has had enough and then someone gets banned.
A full-time moderator would be able to overwrite offending posts with a clear statement of what posting rule was violated and a caution against continued similar posting. Inherently dysfunctional or non-germane posts in the betting forum could just be locked down at the outset with a similar admonition. Banning would be reserved for serial violators who just become too much of a PITA for the moderator after repeated warnings.
Under such a approach, the remedy for being attacked is to report the post to the moderator, not to fire back in kind before the moderator gets to it.
Perhaps some are right that a nondysfunctional forum discussing sports betting won't work.
But I've watched so many posting boards of one sort or another brought down by flame wars over the years that I tend to kind of doubt that. I've seen far more boards "flame out" from dysfunction than nondysfunctional boards with significant content go down.
"At least, that's the way I feel about it," to quote another line from Casino.
Personally, I don't have a big problem with a moderator censoring antagonistic speech on a discussion board.
The First Amendment restrains governments from censoring speech, not private actors such as the owners of a website.
To me, the more apt comparison is to someone having a party at their house. If someone comes to my party and rudely insults and tries to pick fights with my other guests, they're either going to have to stop that behavior or leave. And they of course won't be invited back to do the same thing again.
A full-time moderator arguably is the best way to keep things on track. From what I've seen here in the past, it looks like dysfunctional conduct is more or less tolerated for a period of time until management has had enough and then someone gets banned.
A full-time moderator would be able to overwrite offending posts with a clear statement of what posting rule was violated and a caution against continued similar posting. Inherently dysfunctional or non-germane posts in the betting forum could just be locked down at the outset with a similar admonition. Banning would be reserved for serial violators who just become too much of a PITA for the moderator after repeated warnings.
Under such a approach, the remedy for being attacked is to report the post to the moderator, not to fire back in kind before the moderator gets to it.
Perhaps some are right that a nondysfunctional forum discussing sports betting won't work.
But I've watched so many posting boards of one sort or another brought down by flame wars over the years that I tend to kind of doubt that. I've seen far more boards "flame out" from dysfunction than nondysfunctional boards with significant content go down.
"At least, that's the way I feel about it," to quote another line from Casino.
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Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
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Just waiting for someone to start checking IP addresses....lots of ghost appearances the past week...
Just waiting for someone to start checking IP addresses....lots of ghost appearances the past week...
Re: EOG's Code of Conduct (Effective Immediately)
I'll address the question in a new post. But help me with a couple of questions of my own.
Do you know the owners of the other forums in this industry?
Also, as it applies here, what difference does it make if the site is owned by devil worshipers? Although it's pretty evident that if it that were the case, we would have left everything just as is. We are not selling you anything, nor are we asking you to trust us to send you're hard earned dollars to a particular place, in order to scam you. However, you would be correct in accusing us of wasting your time in asking you to come here to read something worthwhile and instead delivering mostly drivel.
We hope to change that.
I'll address the question in a new post. But help me with a couple of questions of my own.
Do you know the owners of the other forums in this industry?
Also, as it applies here, what difference does it make if the site is owned by devil worshipers? Although it's pretty evident that if it that were the case, we would have left everything just as is. We are not selling you anything, nor are we asking you to trust us to send you're hard earned dollars to a particular place, in order to scam you. However, you would be correct in accusing us of wasting your time in asking you to come here to read something worthwhile and instead delivering mostly drivel.
We hope to change that.
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Stop pointing things out, you're going to hurt our cause.
Stop pointing things out, you're going to hurt our cause.
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
Juan Marichal
EOG Senior Member
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Actually EOG is the only sports gambling forum, that I post at, that I don't know the owners.
Forums that I post at:
RoughingThePunter.com, I know owners Jon Spevak (JonInOakland) and Jan Suchanek (Perpetual Czech).
Sportsmemo.com, owners Tim Trushel & Erin Rynning, et al, that took over the ownership from Tim.
LVASports.com, owner Anthony Curtis (a pseudonym) and chief contributor, Frank Betti.
ViewFromVegas.com, owner Dave Tuley.
Given the history of this site with scamming moderators like BallWonder and Tuckman, and the socialpath radio co-host David Glisan, it would be nice to know you don't actively promote employee scammers.
Actually EOG is the only sports gambling forum, that I post at, that I don't know the owners.
Forums that I post at:
RoughingThePunter.com, I know owners Jon Spevak (JonInOakland) and Jan Suchanek (Perpetual Czech).
Sportsmemo.com, owners Tim Trushel & Erin Rynning, et al, that took over the ownership from Tim.
LVASports.com, owner Anthony Curtis (a pseudonym) and chief contributor, Frank Betti.
ViewFromVegas.com, owner Dave Tuley.
Given the history of this site with scamming moderators like BallWonder and Tuckman, and the socialpath radio co-host David Glisan, it would be nice to know you don't actively promote employee scammers.
Re: EOG's Code of Conduct (Effective Immediately)
"1": What is the "beat-a-dead-horse" C-O-C regulation? Meaning: if a poster has his image posted repeatedly without consent? And. If this practice has been repeated throughout threads? What is the ruling on the picture-posting-posters? I say: ban them :lightbulb:
"1": What is the "beat-a-dead-horse" C-O-C regulation? Meaning: if a poster has his image posted repeatedly without consent? And. If this practice has been repeated throughout threads? What is the ruling on the picture-posting-posters? I say: ban them :lightbulb:
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The whole unknown, unnamed No. 1 bit keeps giving me flashbacks to The Prisoner:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner
Not meant as a commentary or anything, it's just where my mind goes to first when I see the alias, shrouded as it is in mystery.
-- "SquareSix"
The whole unknown, unnamed No. 1 bit keeps giving me flashbacks to The Prisoner:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner
Not meant as a commentary or anything, it's just where my mind goes to first when I see the alias, shrouded as it is in mystery.
-- "SquareSix"
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Re: EOG's Code of Conduct (Effective Immediately)
No, in the past, I've read Ganchrow at SBR, tracked Bucsfan67 in MLB at the Rx and made some posts there over the years.
Also, (how could I forget) I post at Pregame.com, I've spoken with owner RJ Bell (Randall Busack).
No, in the past, I've read Ganchrow at SBR, tracked Bucsfan67 in MLB at the Rx and made some posts there over the years.
Also, (how could I forget) I post at Pregame.com, I've spoken with owner RJ Bell (Randall Busack).
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All I do is trytrytry
BumgarnerWins
Banned
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1,
Can you explain why Cristiano is allowed to post? He is the same account of user 'Ronaldo', which you recommended take a 90 day timeout? User 'Cristiano' made that account hours after that ban. Not hard to figure this one out.
And full disclosure, I am posting on an account due to being banned by a poor mod of EOG past 'Kingrevolver,' who banned me simply for calling him out on some shady behavior around here. I'd love to get my other account unbanned, but just so you know, none of these policies are going to work if people you decide to ban under the new policy can simply make a ghost account 30 minutes after and keep posting.
I'd recommend new ghosts not be tolerated. Starting with Cristiano. He was banned under the new policy, and should serve out his timeout or not be welcome here, like Meaty.
1,
Can you explain why Cristiano is allowed to post? He is the same account of user 'Ronaldo', which you recommended take a 90 day timeout? User 'Cristiano' made that account hours after that ban. Not hard to figure this one out.
And full disclosure, I am posting on an account due to being banned by a poor mod of EOG past 'Kingrevolver,' who banned me simply for calling him out on some shady behavior around here. I'd love to get my other account unbanned, but just so you know, none of these policies are going to work if people you decide to ban under the new policy can simply make a ghost account 30 minutes after and keep posting.
I'd recommend new ghosts not be tolerated. Starting with Cristiano. He was banned under the new policy, and should serve out his timeout or not be welcome here, like Meaty.
GusGreenbaum
EOG Dedicated
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:doh1
Dude, you've been banned MULTIPLE times by Kelly. You'd love to get your other 'account' unbanned? You're on your 54th name here.
Good luck to the Cubbies this year.
:doh1
Dude, you've been banned MULTIPLE times by Kelly. You'd love to get your other 'account' unbanned? You're on your 54th name here.
Good luck to the Cubbies this year.
BumgarnerWins
Banned
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Thanks bud! Should be a fun year, great shot at a repeat. Good luck to your Mets. Might be another 1 and done or no wild card season, but baseball is beautiful even in the thin years! :highfive
Thanks bud! Should be a fun year, great shot at a repeat. Good luck to your Mets. Might be another 1 and done or no wild card season, but baseball is beautiful even in the thin years! :highfive
cheapseats
EOG Master
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Agree. Banning an account and then allowing that account to come back as a ghost is just like a dog chasing it's tail. Foolish policy.
Agree. Banning an account and then allowing that account to come back as a ghost is just like a dog chasing it's tail. Foolish policy.
BumgarnerWins
Banned
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And again, we have a new policy in place, that policy came into place with a temporary ban for Ronaldo to learn from his past transgressions and come back a better poster. He chose to circumvent the ban in 30 minutes and has been trying to instigate trolling efforts ever since.
Just sends a message the new policy is not really anything if the first person impacted by the new policy just circumvents the punishment.
And again, we have a new policy in place, that policy came into place with a temporary ban for Ronaldo to learn from his past transgressions and come back a better poster. He chose to circumvent the ban in 30 minutes and has been trying to instigate trolling efforts ever since.
Just sends a message the new policy is not really anything if the first person impacted by the new policy just circumvents the punishment.
cheapseats
EOG Master
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It's obvious the powers to be believe that banning the handle, bans the nonsense, knuckleheads, goofballs and any other entity that may want to take a run at the handle. So be it, it maybe transparent, but it's a joke by not banning the "real person" behind the handle; and that should be first and foremost.
It's obvious the powers to be believe that banning the handle, bans the nonsense, knuckleheads, goofballs and any other entity that may want to take a run at the handle. So be it, it maybe transparent, but it's a joke by not banning the "real person" behind the handle; and that should be first and foremost.
BumgarnerWins
Banned
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Often times, people create new accounts and don't reveal who they are. I don't expect management or John to be forensically evaluating someone's posting style.
But if Ronaldo is going to be banned, and then he's going to create the name Cristiano minutes later, they're just signaling this code of conduct isn't legitimate by not banning that immediately.
Ronaldo could have created another account and snuck in I'm sure. But he spent months trolling on Ronaldo... he doesn't want to change accounts and lose his trolling image he is so very proud of. Very sad character. This forum would be significantly better off without him.
Often times, people create new accounts and don't reveal who they are. I don't expect management or John to be forensically evaluating someone's posting style.
But if Ronaldo is going to be banned, and then he's going to create the name Cristiano minutes later, they're just signaling this code of conduct isn't legitimate by not banning that immediately.
Ronaldo could have created another account and snuck in I'm sure. But he spent months trolling on Ronaldo... he doesn't want to change accounts and lose his trolling image he is so very proud of. Very sad character. This forum would be significantly better off without him.
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This is funny. Poster has been banned and came back with new names more times than anyone not named Henry Hill and he is "recommending" ghosts not be tolerated. Nothing against you Kerry this was just good for a laugh.
This is funny. Poster has been banned and came back with new names more times than anyone not named Henry Hill and he is "recommending" ghosts not be tolerated. Nothing against you Kerry this was just good for a laugh.
BumgarnerWins
Banned
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To be fair, I was originally banned on this forum because I called a poster Erik, a poster that he let everyone call Erik for 6 years. Kingrevolver decided I needed a permanent ban for that, and then ran off to join a rival forum a few days later. LMAO.
Never was I arguing anyone who has ever ghosted should go, but if they're laying down the law and cracking down, why would they let the first poster banned under the new rules circumvent the ban so blatantly?
To be fair, I was originally banned on this forum because I called a poster Erik, a poster that he let everyone call Erik for 6 years. Kingrevolver decided I needed a permanent ban for that, and then ran off to join a rival forum a few days later. LMAO.
Never was I arguing anyone who has ever ghosted should go, but if they're laying down the law and cracking down, why would they let the first poster banned under the new rules circumvent the ban so blatantly?
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Kerrywins20
JavyBaez9
KrisBryantMVP
Priskilla
PWAD
ChiCubs2015
BumgarnerWins
JArrieta49
....and many others.
From doing a quick forum search, it appears Last time Bumgarner was banned here it was for calling other posters filthy Jews.
But in the interest of full disclosure he'll only mention the one time he got banned, by a poster he now repeatedly calls a fat Mexican.
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Never change, Bumgarner. Sorry about Cutler.
Kerrywins20
JavyBaez9
KrisBryantMVP
Priskilla
PWAD
ChiCubs2015
BumgarnerWins
JArrieta49
....and many others.
From doing a quick forum search, it appears Last time Bumgarner was banned here it was for calling other posters filthy Jews.
But in the interest of full disclosure he'll only mention the one time he got banned, by a poster he now repeatedly calls a fat Mexican.
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Never change, Bumgarner. Sorry about Cutler.
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stop the lie.....
you went to a poster job to harass him
you made threats to posters with mob hits, calling fbi, acts of physical violence..
you have harassed and made threats to poster in PM's
you have made derogatory religious comments to Jewish posters..
you have posted personal information of others here...
more that I can't remember right now..
kinger banned you 1 time, jk maybe 4-6 times...
immature cry baby. if you are so unhappy just leave.
stop the lie.....
you went to a poster job to harass him
you made threats to posters with mob hits, calling fbi, acts of physical violence..
you have harassed and made threats to poster in PM's
you have made derogatory religious comments to Jewish posters..
you have posted personal information of others here...
more that I can't remember right now..
kinger banned you 1 time, jk maybe 4-6 times...
immature cry baby. if you are so unhappy just leave.
Bushay
NHL Expert
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I was just about to make the exact same comment. Can't make this shit up if you tried.
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
I was just about to make the exact same comment. Can't make this shit up if you tried.
:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Bushay
NHL Expert
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It's the fact its coming from you that just takes all the impact out of it.
How many handles have you had here again?
lol. It's wasn't King Revolver banning you once and if he hadn't you were a saint around here. You're a repeat offender.
FAKE NEWS HERE!
No one's arguing your point.
It's the fact its coming from you that just takes all the impact out of it.
How many handles have you had here again?
lol. It's wasn't King Revolver banning you once and if he hadn't you were a saint around here. You're a repeat offender.
FAKE NEWS HERE!