Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Doc Mercer

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Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Did ya have any luck finding that Plane that hit the Pentagon?

:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
 

Doc Mercer

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Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Why not explain to the forum why Bin Laden was never wanted in connection with 9-11 events by the FBI?


PLEASE DO JOANIE THE PLUMBER !!!


:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3:+textinb3
 

Doc Mercer

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Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Why not explain to the forum the name Marvin Bush and how that was
tied into WTC security up until 9-10?
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Why not explain to the forum why Rumsfeld admitted in an Oct, 2001 interview that a Missle hit the Pentagon?
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Explain to this forum how steel beams melted that AM when Jet fuel maxes
at 1500 degrees and most of the Jet fuel was dumped outside of the buildings?
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Explain to the forum why Cheney was overseeing NORAD opps that AM ....explain where our fighter jets were at?
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Explain to this forum how cell calls were connected from heights on that AM of 30,000 feet WHEN THE TECHNOLOGY did not exsist until 2004?
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Explain why Mark Bingham needed to say REALLLL SLOW on tape:

"Mom ...this is Mark Bingham ..."
 

Doc Mercer

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Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Explain to this forum why the ONLY Todd Palin in the SS Death Index died in 1997 and why there is no public record of their marriage since his wife brags about day on page 97 of their book?
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

The only TOOL is the KARL ROVE DILDO you and Reaminator share when you 2
assclowns get together for some GOP "male bonding"
 

BCTTWR

EOG Dedicated
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Amazing! You are a loon. Do you also believe the Neil Armstrong moon walk was filmed on a hollywood movie set? Who killed JFK? MLK was killed by the FBI I suppose.
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Amazing! You are a loon. Do you also believe the Neil Armstrong moon walk was filmed on a hollywood movie set? Who killed JFK? MLK was killed by the FBI I suppose.
1 thing,9/11 truth,doesn't have anything to do with the moon landing anyway,they are mutually exclusive.
JFK and MLK were both likely killed as a part of a conspiracy wider then the 2 fall guys Lee Harvey Oswald and James Earl Ray doing it alone.
People in government agencies may be involved in plots,but they are cut-out operations which can't be directly traced to anyone,and be plausibly denied.
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

9-11 and 11-22 were massive Govt coverups

Opeations Northwoods + PNAC = Bush's Gliewitz Operation
 

Munchkin Man

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Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Did ya have any luck finding that Plane that hit the Pentagon?

:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO

Greetings Doc:

The Munchkin Man has found it for you.

Here you go:

<EMBED src=http://www.youtube.com/v/K89coc88Hrs&hl=en&fs=1 width=425 height=344 type=application/x-shockwave-flash allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true"></EMBED>

You're welcome!

Munchkin Man
 

roscoe

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Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

mr munchkin man thank you for bringing some sanity to this subject!
 

Munchkin Man

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Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Why not explain to the forum why Rumsfeld admitted in an Oct, 2001 interview that a Missle hit the Pentagon?

Greetings Doc:

As a professional teacher, the Munchkin Man would be more than happy to explain it to you.

A "missile" can refer to any object that is acting as a projectile in motion, resulting from any number of actions, which can include launching, throwing, and flying.

If you know how to use a dictionary, go check one, and you will see that the Munchkin Man is correct.

During the Munchkin Man's teaching career, it was very common usage for the school principals to refer to objects, such as spitballs, paper wads, paper clips, and anything else which can be thrown inside a classroom, as "missiles."

Therefore, the plane that hit the Pentagon on the date of September 11, 2001, was a type of "missile."

Class dismissed!

Munchkin Man
 

Munchkin Man

EOG Dedicated
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

mr munchkin man thank you for bringing some sanity to this subject!

You are very welcome, Roscoe!

Wherever insanity reigns, duty calls and the Munchkin Man responds.

Munchkin Man
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Nice try by Munchkin

Pentagon Aircraft Debris

Paucity of Aircraft Crash Debris Raises Doubts About Flight 77 Crash

Photographs of the Pentagon's west facade and adjacent lawn immediately following the crash show a striking paucity of aircraft debris, and punctures in the facade not large enough to have admitted significant expanses of the wings and tail. Even if these parts were shredded on impact, they should have left a few tons of confetti outside the building.



People who were at the disaster site were not able to clarify what happened to the 60 tons of aluminum in the 757 that supposedly hit the Pentagon. When asked by a journalist at a press conference the day after the attack: "Is there anything left of the aircraft at all?" Arlington County Fire Chief, Ed Plaugher, said: [SIZE=-1]
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First of all, the question about the aircraft, there are some small pieces of aircraft visible from the interior during this fire-fighting operation I'm talking about, but not large sections. In other words, there's no fuselage sections and that sort of thing. You know, I'd rather not comment on that. We have a lot of eyewitnesses that can give you better information about what actually happened with the aircraft as it approached. So we don't know. I don't know.


The chief's evasive description sounds suspicious, but it does not prove that there were not piles of aircraft debris inside the building, or piles of seats, some with crash victims. In contrast, characterizations of crash debris outside the building can be made with some accuracy thanks to the handful of post-crash photographs taken by passers-by.



<table class="figure_right" align="right" width="320"> <tbody><tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> [SIZE=-1] Only one piece of aircraft debris larger than small shards was seen by passers-by outside of the building.
[full size image] [/SIZE] </td> </tr> </tbody></table> Photographs Show Small Pieces

Some photographs of aircraft debris at the Pentagon were taken by passers-by immediately following the crash, while other photographs of aircraft parts, both inside and outside the building, were later circulated by government sources.
Portions of the lawn outside the Pentagon were littered with very small pieces of debris, which fell to the ground like confetti, according to eyewitnesses. Reporter Mark D. Faram photographed the only piece of any size he could find when he arrived on the scene about 10 minutes after the explosion, by his own account. Internet persona Richard Eastman first articulated the case that the piece was planted by observing that while the piece has markings, rivet holes, and shape matching the skin of an American Airlines 757-200 just aft of the forward cabin door, it could not have come from a 757 crashing into the Pentagon because:

  • It lies far to the port (left) side of the attack plane's flightpath, but it matches the skin on the starboard (right) side of the fuselage,
  • It shows no signs of abrasion or burning, even though the forward part of the fuselage would have been subjected to some of the most violent forces in a collision.
  • It is conspicuous in being the only photographed aircraft piece on the lawn large enough to stand up.
However, there are readily apparent innocuous explanations for each of these observations:

  • The piece could have been moved for any of a number of reasons.
  • Aircraft crashes are chaotic events that produce debris in all manner of conditions.
  • There is nothing unusual about a single large conspicuous piece surviving at a crash site.
Should Large Aircraft Pieces Be Evident?

The absence of of large pieces of aircraft in photographs stikes many observers as incongruous with the crash of a large jetliner such as the 757 that Flight 77 was. Many people have seen photographs of jetliner crashes in which large sections of the planes remain intact. However, a high-speed crash into a hardened target such as a building is not comparable to typical crash incidents. Furthermore, even crashes into terrain, most of them at much slower speeds than the crashes on 9/11/01, often leave very little in the way of recognizable aircraft parts.



One case for comparison is the crash test of an F-4 fighter jet into a concrete barrier at 480 mph. The crash converted the plane into confetti. Another case is the crash of a C-130 cargo transport plane into a 10-story apartment building in Azari, Iran. Photographs of the crash site show few visible aircraft parts. These cases demonstrate that planes flying into buildings can have the effect of reducing the plane to very small pieces.





<table class="figure_right" align="right" width="280"> <tbody><tr> <td> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> [SIZE=-1] [/SIZE]
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> Photographs of aircraft parts adjacent to or inside of the Pentagon have been used to suggest that some type of aircraft other than a jetliner crashed into the building. An example is the rotor pictured to the right. There are numerous examples of websites and even books claiming that the part is too small to be from the large engines such as those that equip a Boeing 757. However, these engines (which are either Rolls-Royce RB 211-535E4 or Pratt & Whitney PW 2037 or PW 2040 models) are high-bypass turbofan engines, which have a large fan visible from the engine's front and much smaller compressor and turbine rotors behind it. The high-pressure rotors do indeed have dimensions matching the piece in the photograph.
<hr>References

[SIZE=-1] <document nametopic="" nameident="pent_debris" namesect="analysis"> 1. DoD News Briefing - Victoria Clarke, ASD PA, defenselink.mil, 9/12/2001 [cached]</document>[/SIZE]
 

Doc Mercer

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Where is the Plane? Where is any evidence of a plane? How did a 180,000 pound 124 foot wingspan Boeing 757 with two 12,000 pound wing hung [COLOR=#D0D060 ! important][COLOR=#D0D060 ! important]Rolls [COLOR=#D0D060 ! important]Royce[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR] RB-211 turbofan engines and allegedly flying along at 535 mph (784 feet per second) and flying level and mere inches above the lawn, as scripted to us in the 9-11 Pentagon OFFICIAL STORY, manage to allegedly hit that burning generator, and STILL manage somehow to miss all those still standing [COLOR=#D0D060 ! important][COLOR=#D0D060 ! important]fence[/COLOR][/COLOR] poles?
 

Doc Mercer

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Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

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Suspicious plane debris at the Pentagon...
(To link this page, please use the following address: http://www.geocities.com/killtown/flight77/debris.html)
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Last updated: <!--webbot bot="Timestamp" S-Type="EDITED" S-Format="%m/%d/%Y" startspan -->12/30/2006<!--webbot bot="Timestamp" i-checksum="12517" endspan -->
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Click pic to see the Pentagon security video page.
"MCINTYRE: ...The plane hit the Pentagon at a 45-degree angle, and was reduced to tiny fragments by the impact. The biggest piece of fuselage that could be found outside the Pentagon was only about three feet long." -CNN (03/07/02)
</td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-bottom-style: none; border-bottom-width: medium;" width="100%" height="19"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: none; border-width: medium;" width="100%" height="19"> "At 9:37:46, American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon, traveling at approximately 530 miles per hour." -9/11 Commission</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: none; border-width: medium;" width="100%" height="19"> </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-top-style: none; border-top-width: medium;" width="100%" height="19">

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Why is this piece of debris so far away from the point of impact and all by itself?
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(Photo source: rockymountainnews.com)
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(Photo source expired: army.mil [Archived at: WayBack Machine])
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(Photo source unknown. Found here: forums.therandirhodesshow.com)
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Click photo for hi-res.
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Click photo for hi-res.
(Photo source unknown. Found here: pentagonresearch.com)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ccffcc" width="100%" height="18"> Excerpts from an interview with Colonel John F. Roser, who was commander of the Rader Army Health Clinic at Ft. Myer, VA.
"You could see where the plane had gone in. It sheared off some of the light poles and those were on the ground. There were some plane parts around." - Soldiers to the Rescue/Responding in the Pentagon [HTML]

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Couldn't this piece of debris and all the rest of the "plane debris" shown below have been planted?
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(Photo source: niftythings.org)
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(Photo source: hereisnewyork.org)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="12"> Some people claim that this piece of debris is the "n" of the American Airlines' logo and that it is indeed "authentic," but if it did come from an AA plane, couldn't it have come from another wrecked AA plane and how did this small piece that is located near the front of the fuselage land outside so far away from the point of impact when we were told the entire fuselage of Flight 77 shot through the building all the way up to the 3rd Ring?
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(Photo source: rense.com)
Researchers Eric Bart and Kjell Roald think this mystery debris, if authentic, would more likely be the "e" or "c" than the "n." They too question if it is indeed authentic.
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Notice that the above pic has this piece of "n" debris coming from the starboard (right) side of the plane which is the opposite side from where this piece landed! (Photo source: rense.com)
The photo on the right shows where the "n" on the AA logo (red arrows) would approximately be on the scaled B757 and the yellow arrow points the the approximate location of where this "n" debris was photographed.
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(Photo source: defenselink.mil)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="46"> If all these big pieces of debris came from Flight 77, shouldn't there be a lot of smaller pieces of debris scattered are them and if they are light enough to carry away by hand, then couldn't they have been planted by hand?
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Notice that the debris these men are removing are small and light enough for them to remove by hand. (Photo source expired: army.mil [Archived at: WayBack Machine])
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Note that the piece of debris in the top right corner of both of these pics is the same piece of debris. (Photo source: hereisnewyork.org)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="46"> Again, why doesn't this piece of debris have any burn or scrape marks on it after it supposedly exploded into the Pentagon at over 500 mph and couldn't it have been planted there?
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Notice that the debris this man is removing is small and light enough for him to remove by hand. (Photo source expired: eeplaza.com [Archived at: WayBack Machine])
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="6"> Couldn't any of the few pieces of un-burnt plane debris seen at the Pentagon have come from another AA plane that had previously crashed in which the government would have access to it's debris?
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American Airlines Flight 1420; June 1, 1999
Aircraft: MD-82; Little Rock, AR
- airdisaster.com
(See also a search of previously crashed American Airlines planes at: AirDisaster.com.)
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AA Flight 1420 (Photo source: airdisaster.com)
Notice that the AA logo is shredded off the port side of this crashed AA plane and all the debris in un-burnt.
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="46"> Is this piece of debris an engine from Flight 77? If it is, then why isn't it more damaged than it is from supposedly slamming into the reinforce wall of the Pentagon at over 500 mph?
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Engine part that some say is supposedly from Flight 77. Notice how small it is next to the FEMA worker's leg. (Photo source: fema.gov. Other similar photos: 4411, 4415, )
Aircraft: Boeing 757-223
Location: Washington, D.C., USA
Registration: N644AA
Flight Number: 77
Engine Manufacturer: Rolls Royce
Engine Model: RB211-535E4B
(Source: airdisaster.com)
"The impacting airplane was a Boeing 757-200 aircraft, originally delivered in 1991...The two engines were manufactured by Rolls-Royce and had 44,000 lb of combined thrust." -Pentagon Building Performance Report [pg. 12]
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Compare to this crashed engine which is similar to the engine that of the ones found on Flight 77...
Flight 226: Engine Manufacturer: Rolls Royce , Engine Model: RB211-535E4
09/14/1999- Britannia Airways Boeing 757-204 crashes in Gerona, Spain. (Photo source: airdisaster.com)
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Notice how big the Rolls-Royce RB211-535E4 engines that power the Boeing 757 are compared to this person underneath it. (Left photo source: rolls-royce.com)
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Photograph of airplane parts in the Pentagon after Flight 77 crashed into the building. - RCFP [hi-res]
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Rolls-Royce RB211-535E4 (Graphic source: airwar.ru)
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(Graphic source: rolls-royce.com)
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Is that mystery engine part from one of these engines?
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An engine supposedly from one of the two planes that crashed in the WTC 1 and 2...
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Flight 175: Engine Manufacturer: Pratt & Whitney , Engine Model: JT9D-7R4D
Flight 11: Engine Manufacturer: General Electric , Engine Model: CF6-80A2
(Photo source expired: escape.com)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="46"> Is one of these pieces of debris the "green metal" mentioned in the news report below? Of the debris on the left, why doesn't it have any burn marks?
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(Photo source: hereisnewyork.org)
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A Pentagon worker holds what is believed to be a piece of the aircraft that crashed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001. (Photo source: army.mil)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ccffff" width="100%" height="32"> ''There was a seat from a plane, there was part of the tail and then there was a part of green metal, I could not tell what it was, a part of the outside of the plane,'' she said (Judy Biggert (R-Ill.). -Sun Times
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="46"> Is this large piece of debris from an aircraft? Why is there no smaller pieces of debris scattered around this one?
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Did these pieces come from Flight 77?
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="46"> Is this one of the APU doors from a Boeing 757? Why isn't there any smaller pieces scattered around it?
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(Photo source expired: house.gov/berkley [Archived at: WayBack Machine])
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ccffcc" width="100%" height="18"> Excerpts from an interview with Dr. Duong Nguyen, COL, MC (retired), who was a physician at the Rader Army Health Clinic, Ft. Myer, VA.
"I rushed through Henderson Hall (a close-by Marine barracks) to the Pentagon. Along the way, debris of an airplane wing was on the grass." - Soldiers to the Rescue/Responding in the Pentagon [HTML]

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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="46"> A popular "debunking photo" that supposedly shows flight 77 debris in it. Can you even recognize any plane debris in this pile?
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(Photo source expired: jccc.afis.osd.mil)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="68"> The piece of debris on the left is supposedly the "C" of the logo on an AA plane and the photo on the right is thought to be the "N," "E," or "C" which was mentioned above. Isn't it just a little too coincidental that two of the very few pieces of plane debris found at the crash scene are pieces with part of an AA logo on it?
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ccffcc" width="100%" height="18"> Excerpts from an interview with Lieutenant Colonel Frank Bryceland, who was Assistant Director of Education Programs for the Office of the Secretary of Defense.
"We could not see the plane. The only thing that we saw was a piece of the front skin with the ?C? from American Airlines by the little heliport control tower. There was a fire truck there that was burnt on one side, and a car, and a tree, all burnt. But, still, you could not see the plane." - Soldiers to the Rescue/Responding in the Pentagon [HTML]

</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcccc" width="100%" height="18"> "Meanwhile, only unidentifiable objects of metal and glass were scattered over the Pentagon lawn, Rothschadl said. The fire engine used for protecting the Pentagon was incinerated.
"There weren't seats or luggage or things you find in a plane. There was nothing left -- it was obliterated or fireballed," she said. "And there was a foot of water on the lawn. We are running around in the water, not even thinking of the jet fuel in the water. We were just doing our job."
A line of about 30 FBI agents swept the lawn back and forth, collecting evidence. FBI agents confronted Rothschadl, noting the ban on media coverage and demanding to know the reason for her presence.
"I was a little bit nervous that the tapes would be confiscated, especially being alone on the outside," she said.
During her video shooting, Rothschadl noticed a piece of metal against the side of the Pentagon. "It was part of the plane, and the metal was shiny silver with the red letter "C". It was obvious that it was an American plane," she said." -Press & Dakotan (09/11/03)

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Perhaps another piece of debris, but again, why are there no burn or scrape marks on it?
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Is this plane debris on the Helipad or just building debris?
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(Lost source of this photo. Please email if found.)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ccffcc" width="100%" height="18"> Excerpts from an interview with Lieutenant Colonel Bernadette Close, who was Special Projects Officer, Department of Nursing, DeWitt Army Community Hospital, Ft. Belvoir, VA.
"But we did go right up by the helipad almost. You could see pieces of the airplane sitting there, and it looked like some cushions or some pieces." - Soldiers to the Rescue/Responding in the Pentagon [HTML]

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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="46"> Debris supposedly from the nose of Flight 77. If it is, what happened to the rest of the nose that supposedly punched this hole out the size and shape of itself and why isn't it burnt?
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(Photo source expired: army.mil [Archived at: WayBack Machine])
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="24"> Of the alleged 757 rim found outside the punch-out hole in the C ring, is it impossible that it could have been planted and where are the other two rims from the plane?
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Source: 911 Reality
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Is this the shattered cockpit window of a 757?
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"MCINTYRE: ...The only other recognizable feature can be seen in this exclusive CNN photograph, the shattered cockpit window." -CNN (03/07/02)
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</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" style="border-style: solid; border-width: 1px;" bgcolor="#ffcc00" width="100%" height="68"> Another popular photo that shows debris supposedly from Flight 77. Of the bottom left photo, if that is plane debris next to the control tower, how did it get there when the control tower would be blocking the blast path of the plane and were don't any of these pieces look burnt?
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Now what's the odds of this happening?
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Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

[SIZE=+1]"Can you explain how a Boeing 757-200, weighing nearly 100 tons and travelling at a minimum speed of 250 miles an hour* only damaged the outside of the Pentagon?"

[/SIZE]<dl><dt>[SIZE=+1]Anti?opyright Sludge 2002 - sludge@scoop.co.nz[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt> </dt><dt><center>[SIZE=+1]'747 Pilot' (?) Says There Was No Plane to
be Found at the Pentagon "crashsite"[/SIZE]</center> </dt><dt><center> </center> </dt><dt><center> </center> </dt><dt><center>[SIZE=+1]From American Patriot Friends Network APFN@apfn.org 3-8-2[/SIZE]</center> </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]From:
Deleted for Privacy[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]I flew the Boeing 747 JUMBO Jet., but not this 757. I retired before this came into service. But, from what I see (or don't see) looking at these pictures; its hard to pick out aircraft parts. The wingtips alone would have sheared off and bounced back into the street, the engines (2) would have penetrated deeper into the wall and framing structure further than any other part making a definite hole. The belly of the aircraft contains, fuel tanks, baggage, mail bags, and cargo; none of this type debris can be seen. Assuming 8600 gallons of kerosene fuel @ specific gravity of approx 6.9 lbs/gal (temperature considered) weight of the fuel would be close to 60,000 lbs and would splatter everywhere. Where are the seats, those with passengers buckled in would be ripped our of the floor, for that matter, where are the passengers? I have never seen an aircraft accident where the aircraft evaporated upon impact, water, land or buildings. If these pictures were taken within 3 days after 9/11, there would have been definite remains of parts. I don't see any. However, digital computer photos can be doctored up to suit any lawyers cause. From the photos shown, there ain't no fly in this pudding.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=19916[/SIZE] </dt></dl>
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

You are very welcome, Roscoe!

Wherever insanity reigns, duty calls and the Munchkin Man responds.

Munchkin Man
Munchkin Man;
Simple question:
Are you a believer in the offical story contained in The 9/11 Commission Report,and were you satisfied with the conclusions they came up with?


 

tank

EOG Dedicated
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Munchkin Man;
Simple question:
Are you a believer in the offical story contained in The 9/11 Commission Report,and were you satisfied with the conclusions they came up with?


Curious as to what you are trying to get at since you have asked this question twice and no one has answered you yet?Personally I do not believe the 9-11 commission or the Warren commission on JFK either.If anyone trust's the government they are in trouble.
 

scrimmage

What you contemplate you imitate
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

Curious as to what you are trying to get at since you have asked this question twice and no one has answered you yet?Personally I do not believe the 9-11 commission or the Warren commission on JFK either.If anyone trust's the government they are in trouble.
Just looking to get a reference point on where people stand.
Ask this question and few will admit they believe the 9/11 Commission default official version of events;namely 19 hijackers controlled by a rogue mastermind from a cave in Afghanistan,managed to operate undetected by,and outwit, the entire US military intelligence apparatus,to take 4 passenger planes on 1 way trips,3 of them into buildings 2 of which,the WTC towers, collapse into their own footprints violating the laws of physics in less then 10 seconds,and then...
What a fantastic tale...
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

I know BCTTWR keeps warm milk and cookies by his Chimney on the
nite of December 24th
 

Doc Mercer

EOG Master
Re: Het Doc Mercer: Explain Again Who was Responsible for 9/11?

I would love to have BCTTWR explain how Bin Laden was never wanted for
connections to 9-11 ...


<table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="604"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top" height="54"><center>MURDER OF U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; CONSPIRACY TO MURDER U.S. NATIONALS OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES; ATTACK ON A FEDERAL FACILITY RESULTING IN DEATH</center></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#ffffff" height="60"> <center> [SIZE=+3]USAMA BIN LADEN[/SIZE]

</center></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#ffffff" valign="top"> <center><table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" width="150"> <tbody><tr> <td> </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
</center> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" width="590"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="75"> Aliases:</td> <td valign="top" width="515"> Usama Bin Muhammad Bin Ladin, Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin, The Prince, The Emir, Abu Abdallah, Mujahid Shaykh, Hajj, The Director</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <center> [SIZE=+1]DESCRIPTION[/SIZE]

</center> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="2" width="590"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Date of Birth Used: </td> <td valign="top" width="202"> 1957</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Hair:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Brown</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Place of Birth:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> Saudi Arabia</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Eyes:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Brown</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Height:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> 6'4" to 6'6"</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Sex:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Male</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Weight:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> Approximately 160 pounds</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Complexion:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Olive</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Build:</td> <td valign="top" width="202"> Thin</td> <td valign="top" width="90"> Citizenship:</td> <td valign="top" width="117"> Saudi Arabian</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Language:</td> <td colspan="3"> Arabic (probably Pashtu)</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Scars and Marks:</td> <td colspan="3" valign="top"> None known</td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top" width="170"> Remarks:</td> <td colspan="3" valign="top"> Bin Laden is left-handed and walks with a cane.</td> </tr> </tbody></table> <center> [SIZE=+1]CAUTION[/SIZE]

</center> Usama Bin Laden is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. In addition, Bin Laden is a suspect in other terrorist attacks throughout the world.
<center> [SIZE=+1]REWARD[/SIZE]

</center> The Rewards For Justice Program, United States Department of State, is offering a reward of up to $25 million for information leading directly to the apprehension or conviction of Usama Bin Laden. An additional $2 million is being offered through a program developed and funded by the Airline Pilots Association and the Air Transport Association.
<center>SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ARMED AND DANGEROUS</center> IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION CONCERNING THIS PERSON, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL FBI OFFICE OR THE NEAREST AMERICAN EMBASSY OR CONSULATE.
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