Him and Manny were shooting each other in the ass.
Wouldn't have anything to do with a wrist injury. :doh1
Wouldn't have anything to do with a wrist injury. :doh1
Ortiz missed two months last season with a torn tendon in his wrist. It's an injury that, even at the time, doctors said could prevent him from ever regaining his power. That, coupled with the fact he's 33 and never been in great shape, would be a reasonable explanation for the diminished power.So your saying that Ortiz years of steroid abuse has caused his wrist injury?:+clueless
I personally do not believe Ortiz took steroids. I could be wrong, but he is one of the very few in the league I'd be surprised to hear was using.
I also don't think steroids are a big deal though so if it turns out he was I personally wouldn't think any less of his accomplishments.
This is coming from someone that hates the Sox also.
Ortiz missed two months last season with a torn tendon in his wrist. It's an injury that, even at the time, doctors said could prevent him from ever regaining his power. That, coupled with the fact he's 33 and never been in great shape, would be a reasonable explanation for the diminished power.
It's not like Ortiz is noticeably smaller, like when Giambi showed up for Spring training some 20 lbs. lighter a few years back. And it's not like he's hitting balls to the warning track now, something that would show he's lost power, perhaps a result of no longer using steroids. Ortiz isn't hitting anything hard. Ground balls and pop ups when he makes contact. He can no longer get around on a fastball, likely a sign of a) advanced age and b) lack of bat speed as a result of the wrist injury.
But maybe he did use steroids. Who the fuck knows (or cares)?
I care.
Unless my math is off, the yankees have the most publicly known offenders of steroid use? Those that have been caught anyway. I may be wrong though.
Unless my math is off, the yankees have the most publicly known offenders of steroid use? Those that have been caught anyway. I may be wrong though.
Unless my math is off, the yankees have the most publicly known offenders of steroid use? Those that have been caught anyway. I may be wrong though.
who's payroll was george mitchell on at one time??:+cluelessno roseman...your right....!!!:cheers
So are you anit-Arod then? You can't cheer for Arod and support him as a Yankee if you are going to post about Ortiz using roids every single day, when that hasn't even been proven.
You are the ultimate homer and it embarrasses all Yankee fans.
I support Arod and love watching him play. I couldn't care less about the steroids. I don't give a shit if the Yankees or Red Sox have team meetings where every single player injects themselves with roids. Hell, all it'd do is make for a better product which is all I care about.
The point is if you are going to support one roid user you support them all. You can dislike Ortiz because he plays for the Sox, but to make a big deal about possibly talking steroids is a joke when many Yankees have the done the same. I wouldn't be surprised if Beckett took roids either, but it doesn't matter to me. I like to see him have bad games because he plays for the Sox, not because I think he might have used roids.
This whole issue is a joke.
You guys act like steroids is some sort of magical potion that turns you into a 40 hr a year monster. Steroids would not explain the drop in stats one bit. You don't go from being a 40 hr hitter to having no power because of steroids.
The smart players used steroids in HS/College to help them become monsters and stopped once they got into the majors. Once you stop taking steroids you don't just all of a sudden become some useless POS. You can keep working out and gain muscle, it just doesn't happen so rapidly and you won't have the same energy level during your workouts.
People have such a horrible understanding of steroids and yet they make all these assumptions of what players are and aren't doing them and talk as if they are experts. I don't have a very good understanding of steroids either. I couldn't tell you the exact benefits, dangers, and side effects from stopping, but I know enough to know that you don't all of a sudden become weak or lose any talent you had because you stop taking them. Many guys take them just to gain some muscle quickly, then stop and just work out enough to keep the muscle.
I think the main reason people hate steroids so much and the people that use them is because they think anyone can just take steroids and become a great player. It doesn't work like that. No matter how many PED's you are taking you still have to have a tremendous amount of talent to achieve what guys like Giambi, Palmerio, Sosa, McGuire, Arod, Manny and Papi did. These are all tremendously talented individuals and were all incredible to watch in their prime (Manny and Arod are still in their prime). Steroids didn't make them who they are, they just enhanced their power with roids. Not a big deal.
FK - you have an incredible talent there. You can tell who's using just by watching the games. Sell this ability to the league and make a fortune. Seriously. The IOC will call on your next, and it will save them millions on testing equipment. You watch the game then point your magic finger and tell them who's on the juice and who isn't.
I believe!
I personally do not believe Ortiz took steroids. I could be wrong, but he is one of the very few in the league I'd be surprised to hear was using.
I also don't think steroids are a big deal though so if it turns out he was I personally wouldn't think any less of his accomplishments.
This is coming from someone that hates the Sox also.
You guys act like steroids is some sort of magical potion that turns you into a 40 hr a year monster. Steroids would not explain the drop in stats one bit. You don't go from being a 40 hr hitter to having no power because of steroids.
The smart players used steroids in HS/College to help them become monsters and stopped once they got into the majors. Once you stop taking steroids you don't just all of a sudden become some useless POS. You can keep working out and gain muscle, it just doesn't happen so rapidly and you won't have the same energy level during your workouts.
People have such a horrible understanding of steroids and yet they make all these assumptions of what players are and aren't doing them and talk as if they are experts. I don't have a very good understanding of steroids either. I couldn't tell you the exact benefits, dangers, and side effects from stopping, but I know enough to know that you don't all of a sudden become weak or lose any talent you had because you stop taking them. Many guys take them just to gain some muscle quickly, then stop and just work out enough to keep the muscle.
I think the main reason people hate steroids so much and the people that use them is because they think anyone can just take steroids and become a great player. It doesn't work like that. No matter how many PED's you are taking you still have to have a tremendous amount of talent to achieve what guys like Giambi, Palmerio, Sosa, McGuire, Arod, Manny and Papi did. These are all tremendously talented individuals and were all incredible to watch in their prime (Manny and Arod are still in their prime). Steroids didn't make them who they are, they just enhanced their power with roids. Not a big deal.
This shocks me. Lets see, he changed his name, gained 100 pounds and went from a 20 HR guy to a 50 HR guy..... I thought Ortiz was one of the more obvious users of all-time.