I suspect the SB was not kind to the Bookmakers

Mr. NBA

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:maniac:.......damn how did I manage to lose money?.....2938u4ji23
 

TonyMar

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maybe offshore...

but talk to your locals...

where i am...

they are doin' some serious celebrating right now...

heavy on pitts ATS...and it was ABNORMALLY heavy for a superbowl...

locally.
 
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this is why amateurs like myself are confused

shrink and many at rx saying books took a bath

osu,vd,o frog say books did great.

hmmm
 
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TONY 100% correct BOOKS may have lost small, if any booooks lost really really big I'd be shocked, if VEgas comes with this BS that after entire volume they LOSE

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way in hell
 
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You may be right locally....

I was told by a few offshores they were being flooded with Teasers as the SIDE action was two sided...

I'll know more tomorrow...

An outright AZ win would have been very kind to them...
 
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IF BOOOKS LOST BIG

They need start new--profession

hell all we had to do was avoid 6/7
 

royboy

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almost all my square buds either took zona ml or pitt - the points...
 

TonyMar

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TONY 100% correct BOOKS may have lost small, if any booooks lost really really big I'd be shocked, if VEgas comes with this BS that after entire volume they LOSE

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way in hell
there was one local here...

that wanted more steeler ATS action...

hung -6.5+100....

this guy caught his fish...

got someone to buy off that hook for 25 dimes.

:LMAO

my shorts are still soaked...
 
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bingo, that's what I was saying , but FROG assured me that teasers are a very very small part of the game

that may be so bet wise, but money wise that is a different story

books that hung the 6.5 were the winners, ala CRIS

books that hung the 7 were the losers, ala OLY
 
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A wise man once told me "All Bookies Cry" 12io4j2w90

I know a BOOOKMAKER who hasn't won a game in 45--yrs

Man is the BEST in 45-yrs never never won game


Line will be 6.5 he'll close @ -8

Game falls 6

I say WOW u must crushed 'em

NOPE, my BIG-GUY come in at very END Bet me 50-dimes on the +8 he is the best (if he;s alive) great great great great man

BUT, never one a game in 45-yrs BOOKING (LOL)
 
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Books will be fine with this result. Any book who couldn't make money on this game should not even be open anyway.
 

trytrytry

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the off shore books will learn this week if they did well or not...its all about how many leave the funds in play (especially all the new funds) and how many need the cash for daily life stuff and cash out..
 

pioneer

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Vegas/NV books lost $2.6 million out of a $92 million handle last year with the NYG ML win...I guarantee that they won money this year...final Vegas/NV results should be released tomorrow or Wed
 

raycabino

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Vegas/NV books lost $2.6 million out of a $92 million handle last year with the NYG ML win...I guarantee that they won money this year...final Vegas/NV results should be released tomorrow or Wed
Absolutely. If all teasers don't hit it might have been their best SB ever in Vegas. Whenever the dog doesn't win straight up and the favorite doesn't cover the #, it is a party for the books here in Vegas.
 
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Absolutely. If all teasers don't hit it might have been their best SB ever in Vegas. Whenever the dog doesn't win straight up and the favorite doesn't cover the #, it is a party for the books here in Vegas.

You have NO CLUE to what you are talking about. Many casinos here in Las Vegas LOST money on the Super Bowl.


Dave"The Meatman" Scandaliato
 

pioneer

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Quote:
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Absolutely. If all teasers don't hit it might have been their best SB ever in Vegas. Whenever the dog doesn't win straight up and the favorite doesn't cover the #, it is a party for the books here in Vegas.
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You have NO CLUE to what you are talking about. Many casinos here in Las Vegas LOST money on the Super Bowl.


Dave"The Meatman" Scandaliato
Dave,
You're the one with "no clue" here today. Ray didn't say that some casinos may not have lost money yesterday; what he's saying is that overall the NV books will make money on yesterday's SB. The results will be made public either tomorrow or Wed in the LVRJ and/or Gaming today and I expect you to issue an apology to rayc at that time(but I'm not holding my breath)!

from today's LVRJ....

"The Hilton closed the Steelers as 61/2-point favorites. "It was the best-case scenario for us to have the Steelers win and not cover," Kornegay said.

The MGM Mirage and Wynn closed the line with Pittsburgh favored by 7, and Rood and Avello said they needed the Steelers to cover. The bottom line, though, was business was good and the game was better."
 
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bingo, that's what I was saying , but FROG assured me that teasers are a very very small part of the game

that may be so bet wise, but money wise that is a different story

books that hung the 6.5 were the winners, ala CRIS

books that hung the 7 were the losers, ala OLY


And I will again. For the Super Bowl, teasers are not that big of a factor. The biggest whale type bets are side, total and especailly ML. They were not dropping that ML in Vegas for easy scalps offshore for shits and grins. And with a zillions props, three page parlay cards and sweet vig on everything else, the teasers were nowhere near what they are the average game percentage wise. Plus, I think you had a ton of bettors buying up to +7 1/2, and down to -5 1/2 and -6. Factor that into your juice equation. Two of the contest type props, the biggest two were just gold mines. MVP and first player to score TD. I doubt one book lost on those. The Pitt wins but does not cover was the best scenario, as long as it was below 6.

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raycabino

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You have NO CLUE to what you are talking about. Many casinos here in Las Vegas LOST money on the Super Bowl.


Dave"The Meatman" Scandaliato
Any book in Vegas that lost yesterday has only themselves to blame. Like Caesars using -220/+160 ml, they deserve to fukin lose and hope they did. How can they not use -220/+180 when they could scalp over a million dollars worth offshore at better than +200. Unreal how incompetent some of these sportsbooks really are in Vegas.
 
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Any book in Vegas that lost yesterday has only themselves to blame. Like Caesars using -220/+160 ml, they deserve to fukin lose and hope they did. How can they not use -220/+180 when they could scalp over a million dollars worth offshore at better than +200. Unreal how incompetent some of these sportsbooks really are in Vegas.

I quit playing Caesers when they went to a high vig store. It was like they put up a not interested in sportsbettors sign. I knew all of the books managers at Ceasers Tahoe. Even pompous ass Kivi. They said once the beancounters came in and told them how to run the book the show was over. They had the biggest book in Tahoe, then cut it in half for slots, then cut another section off for more slots, then sold the book to Fountainblue. Another one bites the dust. It got to the point I never even shopped for thier lines because I always could find better.

Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
 

pioneer

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Any book in Vegas that lost yesterday has only themselves to blame. Like Caesars using -220/+160 ml, they deserve to fukin lose and hope they did. How can they not use -220/+180 when they could scalp over a million dollars worth offshore at better than +200. Unreal how incompetent some of these sportsbooks really are in Vegas.
ray,
It's not so much incompetence as it is the Vegas books knowing their clientele. If these fools/sheep will bet the AZ +160 ML anyway, why should Caesars offer them a fair bet? Caesars probably had some bad memories from the NYG ML win last year and didn't want any AZ ML bets this year. In fact as Travis (OSU) said yesterday, shortly before kickoff they were offerring -210/+160 and he bet the Pitt ML and they moved it to -220/+160. No "knowledgeable gambler" should ever bet AZ ML at +160 since a +7 dog is usually anywhere from +220 to +260, but that leaves a lot "casual bettors" to bet it anyway, so you could say Caesars would be incompetent NOT to take advantage of this phenomenon.
 
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All I know is I was out on the strip last night, went to Flamingo, Harrah's, Venetian, Polazzo, Wynn, Encore, and Hard Rock, ate and drank with many a fine people, most of whom were wearing Steeler gear. The crazy thing is I did not meet one single person out of the many I talked to that didn't have the Cardinals +7 or the over.

It was just like a night at the Rx.
 
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I quit playing Caesers when they went to a high vig store. It was like they put up a not interested in sportsbettors sign. I knew all of the books managers at Ceasers Tahoe. Even pompous ass Kivi. They said once the beancounters came in and told them how to run the book the show was over. They had the biggest book in Tahoe, then cut it in half for slots, then cut another section off for more slots, then sold the book to Fountainblue. Another one bites the dust. It got to the point I never even shopped for thier lines because I always could find better.

Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
Did you ever play at Barney's?:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
 
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Did you ever play at Barney's?:LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Barney's, Bill's, Lakeside, The Sahara, I was counting cards and playing underage at 16. I tell ya, the nicest place was up in Incline, the Hyatt. I'd drive there just for the scenic drive. The Biltmore? Stateline is a bonafide disaster waiting to be pushed aside. Going to convert all those carpet joints to ski lodging vacation resorts. Once Leroy's got into the Hor, Harrah's bought Harvey's and glommed onto thier better sportsbook and closed thier own, and bean counters took over Ceasar's, the show was over. I never had to wear any disguises. They comped me to hang around and balance them.

Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
 
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Barney's, Bill's, Lakeside, The Sahara, I was counting cards and playing underage at 16. I tell ya, the nicest place was up in Incline, the Hyatt. I'd drive there just for the scenic drive. The Biltmore? Stateline is a bonafide disaster waiting to be pushed aside. Going to convert all those carpet joints to ski lodging vacation resorts. Once Leroy's got into the Hor, Harrah's bought Harvey's and glommed onto thier better sportsbook and closed thier own, and bean counters took over Ceasar's, the show was over. I never had to wear any disguises. They comped me to hang around and balance them.

Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
I knew a girl in the Air Force who used to wear a Heavenly T-Shirt.........and boy was she Heavenly. She was so beautiful, of course she wouldn't talk to me but I was used to that. I know the casinos went to shit in Tahoe but that is one of the most beautiful places on the planet.
 
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I knew a girl in the Air Force who used to wear a Heavenly T-Shirt.........and boy was she Heavenly. She was so beautiful, of course she wouldn't talk to me but I was used to that. I know the casinos went to shit in Tahoe but that is one of the most beautiful places on the planet.

Agree 100%. Got married there. In Harvey's chapel overlooking the Lake. You hike up on the trails on upper Heavenly way up on Kingsbury grade you see some vistas that are probably unmatched in the world. I had my kids in tow last trek and had to slowdown and shorten trip. I'll walk the entire trail to the lakes this spring. Maybe the summer for my 10th anniversery. That and the Na Pali coast on Kauai before the hurricane are my two most beautiful spots ever.

Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
 

pioneer

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one more day to wait for final tally...

February 3, 2009


Nevada sports books expect to profit from Super Bowl betting

Reno Gazette Journal


Nevada sports books likely cashed in from Super Bowl XLIII, but the profits still are being counted.

The final tally on the amount wagered in Nevada's sports books and the profit margin for casinos should be available Wednesday, said analyst Frank Streshley of the Gaming Control Board.

But it's probably a safe bet to say the sports books are back in the black.

Northern Nevada oddsmakers said they anticipated a profit if the favored Pittsburgh Steelers won the game but did not cover the seven-point spread.

That's exactly what happened, as Pittsburgh's last-minute rally to beat the Arizona Cardinals 27-23 in Tampa, Fla.

The books received a lot of action on the Steelers to cover the spread and on the Cardinals to win outright.

Those who took the Cardinals against the spread were the only bettors to cash winning tickets.

Last year, the New York Giants' 17-14 upset of the New England Patriots caused Nevada sports books to take a net loss on the Super Bowl for the first time in 13 years.
 
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I care more about the offshore sports books and the majority of them have confirmed that the SuperBowl was not kind for them...

One book had a 2% profit whereas other lost anywhere between 5-12% of the handle...

Since many online books have better teaser odds than Vegas, they got buried there...
 

munson15

I want winners...
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I care more about the offshore sports books and the majority of them have confirmed that the SuperBowl was not kind for them...

One book had a 2% profit whereas other lost anywhere between 5-12% of the handle...

Since many online books have better teaser odds than Vegas, they got buried there...
I guess I spoke too soon, since 90% of my business is offshore and none in Vegas. My bad.:doh1
 

pioneer

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I guess I spoke too soon, since 90% of my business is offshore and none in Vegas. My bad.:doh1
Munson,
You need to check and see if the doctors didn't remove your testicles along with your bum hip. I have NEVER ever seen a guy so quick to apologize for saying, and I quote..."Thanks for the update, Pioneer."
Your bad indeed!
 
#40
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I care more about the offshore sports books and the majority of them have confirmed that the SuperBowl was not kind for them...

One book had a 2% profit whereas other lost anywhere between 5-12% of the handle...

Since many online books have better teaser odds than Vegas, they got buried there...

And they had a much better price on Cards money line, where as Vegas was offering huge discount on Steelers money line.

Best Wishes...OF :+waving-5
 
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